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Title: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: Sondra on January 22, 2005, 06:15:16 AM
I think the people over at Rolling Stone Magazine are mental. They put David Gilmour at #82??!! Under Joan Jett and John Fogerty (3 cords)??? Idiots. Even Townshend is higher than him. I love Pete, but better than Dave?? Uuuuggh.

The 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time


1Jimi Hendrix
2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3 B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan
8 Ry Cooder
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones
11Kirk Hammett of Metallica
12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead
14 Jeff Beck
15 Carlos Santana
16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones
17 Jack White of the White Stripes
18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers
19 Richard Thompson
20 James Burton
21 George Harrison
22 Mike Bloomfield
23 Warren Haynes
24 The Edge of U2
25 Freddy King
26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave
27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits
28 Stephen Stills
29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges
30 Buddy Guy
31 Dick Dale
32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service
33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth
35 John Fahey
36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's
37 Bo Diddley
38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac
39 Brian May of Queen
40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival
41 Clarence White of the Byrds
42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson
43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic
44 Scotty Moore
45 Frank Zappa
46 Les Paul
47 T-Bone Walker
48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith
49 John McLaughlin
50 Pete Townshend
51 Paul Kossoff of Free
52 Lou Reed
53 Mickey Baker
54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane
55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple
56 Tom Verlaine of Television
57 Roy Buchanan
58 Dickey Betts
59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead
61 Ike Turner
62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band
63 Danny Gatton
64 Mick Ronson
65 Hubert Sumlin
66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour
67 Link Wray
68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape
69 Steve Howe of Yes
70 Eddie Van Halen
71 Lightnin' Hopkins
72 Joni Mitchell
73 Trey Anastasio of Phish
74 Johnny Winter
75 Adam Jones of Tool
76 Ali Farka Toure
77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat
78 Robbie Robertson of the Band
79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997)
80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids
81 Derek Trucks
82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd
83 Neil Young
84 Eddie Cochran
85 Randy Rhoads
86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath
87 Joan Jett
88 Dave Davies of the Kinks
89 D. Boon of the Minutemen
90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper
91 Robby Krieger of the Doors
92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5
94 Bert Jansch
95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine
96 Angus Young of AC/DC
97 Robert Randolph
98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer
99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag
100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: on January 22, 2005, 12:06:45 PM
OMG! thas bang out...they put kurt cobain before, ediie van halen, frank zappa, and brian may!!
kurt couldnt play for sh*t!
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: Lenny Pane on January 22, 2005, 12:26:29 PM
i agree with you leg.. that poll is total BS .. jimi shouldnt be a No1

cobain ahead of santana, what a crock of sh*t lol
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: Lenny Pane on January 22, 2005, 12:27:37 PM
crock of mess hahaha it should of said S.H.I.T !
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: on January 22, 2005, 12:28:56 PM
oh my god was cobain before santana! bastads.

although i agreee, jimi should be up thront
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: TurnMeOnDeadman on January 22, 2005, 12:40:17 PM
Rolling Stone magazine sucks, Ive seen other lists and Gilmour is in the top 10

WTF!!! Jack White already #17!!!!WTF!!!....wheres Joe Satriani??
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: Joost on January 22, 2005, 12:52:07 PM
I'm pretty sure that most people involved in making this list never touched a guitar in their lives. There are some guitarists in it that never even laid down a proper solo in their entire carreer. Greg Ginn of Black Flag for instance - I love that band, but there are hundreds of thousands of guitarists that are definately better than him. Kurt Cobain - great songwriter, singer and charismatic frontman, but certainly not a spectaculair guitarist. Jack White - absolutely worthless as a guitarist. Joey Ramone - I love the Ramones, by I never heard him doing anything more than just sticking to his three chords per song.  

This list is a complete joke.
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: Lenny Pane on January 22, 2005, 02:45:07 PM
Quote from: Biscuit_Power
Kurt Cobain - great songwriter, singer and charismatic frontman, but certainly not a spectaculair guitarist.
This list is a complete joke.

Your totaly right about cobain.. and YES the list is a complete joke !
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: Indica on January 22, 2005, 05:39:58 PM
Polls like this are riddled with marketing appeal to whatever artist holds present public interest, in order to sell the magazine.
In other words, a total crock of Mess* ( cheers Lenny)  8)
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on January 22, 2005, 05:58:07 PM
yeah this list is rubbish.  disregard it entirely.  their #2 selection also suprises me, I wouldd have Duane high, but certainly not #2
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: on January 22, 2005, 06:43:18 PM
Duane is almost as good as Jimi.
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: Bruno on January 22, 2005, 08:22:30 PM
being a good guitarist implies more than being fast by playing 20 notes per second.
Writing good songs, good riffs,setting a good rhythm, playing with emotion and charisma,handle huge crowds, being innovative,influential and original are all taken into consideration.
Yeah, Kurt might be ranked too high in that list but I'd definitely put him in the top 100, the same goes with Joey Ramone, he's a good guitarist.
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: on January 22, 2005, 09:38:25 PM
that list is pure BS..eddie van halen 70???? Jack White 17???? And were the hell is Peter Frampton???
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: Mairi on January 22, 2005, 10:16:58 PM
Rolling Stone used to be a respectable rock mag but now it's just a joke. I am soooo glad I decided against getting a subscription.
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: on January 22, 2005, 10:21:34 PM
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And were the hell is Peter Frampton


Tja Lennon Legend Who is it?


to example plays in Sgt Pepper Movie

(http://www.bobgruen.com/files/asst/R.312-PETER%20FRAMPTON-1979.jpg)

and Ringo All Starr Band

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Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: on January 22, 2005, 10:28:29 PM
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Tja Lennon Legend Who is it?


to example plays in Sgt Pepper Movie


(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000AYL16.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002G0R.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
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I think he's a good guitarist, and he deserves to be in that list...him and bob mayo are great... Frampton is known for using the 'talkbox' in songs...
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: on January 22, 2005, 10:34:34 PM
Why ask you when you know who it is
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: Lenny Pane on January 22, 2005, 11:15:58 PM
Quote from: lennon-legend


 Frampton is known for using the 'talkbox' in songs...

yeah and he's damn good at it as well, ive had a go on one of those voice boxes and it sounds real good when you get the hang of it .....
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: on January 23, 2005, 12:18:30 AM
Quote from: Mr_Kite

yeah and he's damn good at it as well, ive had a go on one of those voice boxes and it sounds real good when you get the hang of it .....


yeah I know it's amazing...
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: adamzero on January 23, 2005, 03:20:15 AM
Lou Reed above Dickie Betts or Neil Young, for god's sake!

And Ike Turner above David Gilmour!

And Bert Jansch and Joni Mitchell?  C'mon!   And John Fahey but no Leo Kottke?

They should have separated the group into two sub-sets: thythm and lead players (strummers and soloists) then this might begin to make sense.  

Because John Lennon is just as strong a rhythm player as Lou Reed or any the punks listed.  And he could pick pretty damn well too ("Julia").
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: lennonlemon on January 23, 2005, 08:44:24 PM
this proves that rolling stone doesn't know sh*t about rock and roll music.

i do respect cobain and wrote some great songs, but he was no guitarist. and what is up with eddie van halen and frank zappa being so high. i am no guitarist (i play bass), but i ain't no idiot; those guys were gods.

Anyways, my vote for #1 is jeff beck.
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: Wayne L. on January 23, 2005, 09:10:59 PM
These worthless polls don't mean anything anyway whether they're from Rolling Stone or the NYT but the late, great Jimi Hendrix is the greatest rock guitarist that has ever lived but Eddie Van Halen deserves to be in the top 10.  
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: on January 23, 2005, 09:27:29 PM
oh yeh where's yngwie malmsteen, and steve vai?

and satch!!!
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: adamzero on January 23, 2005, 09:46:27 PM
I never fully got Eddie Van Halen.  I guess he was the forerunner of all the speed players of the 80s, but I never really got the groove for that.  For american whiteguy band guitar rock, I think Steve Perry writes better parts than Van Halen.  But I don't like Aerosmith or Van Halen.  Might as well go to the source and listen to the Stones if you want two guitar rock--

But to my mind the most influential "rock" guitarists would have to be: 1) Jimi Hendrix; 2) Clapton; 3) Jimmy Page; 4) maybe then Duane Allman (but only in combo with Dickie Betts); 5) Keith Richards (sharing his spot with Chuck Berry).  To me, Chuck Berry has to be the beginning of rock guitar (maybe with a nod to bluesmen like Robert Johnson and B.B. King and Hubert Sumlin, etc.).    Because Chuck pushed guitar to the front as a lead rock instrument rather than horns.  Chuck is far more important to the development of rock than B.B. King, for crissakes, and just about everyone else.  For that matter, Charlie Christian or Lonnie Johnson is more important than B.B. King.  

I know the list is "greatest" but that term should include both influence as well as technical prowess.  Hendrix has influenced a lot of players, but Chuck Berry almost singlehandedly (with Buddy Holly and the early Elvis) created a genre.  

I hate these lists, but at least they get you thinking.  

P.S. Neil Young probably deserves to be in the top ten for sheer idiosyncratic power and emotion of his electric and acoustic playing.  "Cortez the Killer" is one of the few post-Hendrix songs to be in Hendrix's ballpark.  
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: on January 23, 2005, 09:47:07 PM
Quote from: Wayne_L.
These worthless polls don't mean anything anyway whether they're from Rolling Stone or the NYT but the late, great Jimi Hendrix is the greatest rock guitarist that has ever lived but Eddie Van Halen deserves to be in the top 10.
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: adamzero on January 23, 2005, 09:50:57 PM
I guess "Jump" killed me on Van Halen.  Too bad they didn't do the synth parts as power chords.  I just haven't listened enough to Van Halen--except what I hear on the radio--to qualify.

But I do like how he and his hardass brothers kicked out David lee Roth and then Sammy Hagar (of Three Lock Box and that horrible Drive 55 song)  out of their band.  

I get the suspicion that you don't mess with the Van Halen brothers.
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: Sondra on January 23, 2005, 09:54:30 PM
I don't get the Eddie Van Halen thing either. He's fast I guess. I don't think he does anything so original though. But again, I'm not a guitarist so what do I know. He's just kinda boring to me.
I still think David Gilmour should be way higher. I don't get why he deserves to be put at 82.

(http://www.pinkfloyddownloads.com/PinkFloyd/Gallery/WIPF70.jpg)(http://www.pinkfloyddownloads.com/PinkFloyd/Gallery/WIPF131.jpg)
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: adamzero on January 23, 2005, 11:59:02 PM
I'm telling you.  Don't mess with them Van Halens!  They'll get you in their band and then kick you out!
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: on January 24, 2005, 12:04:04 AM
Quote from: Maccalvr
I don't get the Eddie Van Halen thing either. He's fast I guess. I don't think he does anything so original though. But again, I'm not a guitarist so what do I know. He's just kinda boring to me.
I still think David Gilmour should be way higher. I don't get why he deserves to be put at 82.

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gilmour is one of a kind...thats for sure...but eddie is too...he has his own style of playing...but for some reason i can see van halen playing stuff like gilmour, but i'd never see gilmour playing guitar like EVH... anyways... ranking gilmour so high is a joke, Pink Floyd is one of the greatest band of all times...he should be in the top 10 too...

Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: Sondra on January 24, 2005, 01:20:13 AM
You doubt Dave could handle anything Eddie could do? Have you seen him live during one of his solos or extended jams? There's Pompeii or Pulse for starters. I think Dave is more creative/versitile. But then I only like about three Van Halen songs so I'm not exactly unbiased.
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: number14 on January 24, 2005, 01:24:22 AM
ya i dont agree with that list
david glimour should have been higher
and i dont agree with hendrix as first
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: on January 24, 2005, 01:30:56 AM
Quote from: number14
ya i dont agree with that list
david glimour should have been higher
and i dont agree with hendrix as first

why not hendrix at first?...its true...some say he's overrated...but he is that damn good...he was a natural talent...he hit fame at the perfect time, thats why he's always ranked so high...and playing a guitar the other way around was amazing at that time...anyways
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: number14 on January 24, 2005, 01:37:22 AM
i have lots of jimi hendrix and hes not that amazing
voodoo child was awesome guitar but nothing else stood out
not like david glimour or jimmy page
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: on January 24, 2005, 02:41:25 AM
Quote from: Maccalvr
You doubt Dave could handle anything Eddie could do? Have you seen him live during one of his solos or extended jams? There's Pompeii or Pulse for starters. I think Dave is more creative/versitile. But then I only like about three Van Halen songs so I'm not exactly unbiased.


i have every pink floyd album, and some of their dvd's, and yeah he's awesome in live in pompeii...but i dunno i just can't imagine gilmour playing something like eruption the way ed plays it... but like i said dave is one of a kind...they each have their techniques and i respect and love their music...Gilmour and EVH rock!

(http://www.classicvh.com/images/gallery/The_Gallery/Eddie_Van_Halen/Flying_Ed.jpg)

(http://pinkfloyd.thtn.com/wsdata/img/bioface/davegilmour1.jpg)

Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: Crazy Diamond on January 24, 2005, 12:23:52 PM
Quote from: number14
i have lots of jimi hendrix and hes not that amazing
voodoo child was awesome guitar but nothing else stood out
not like david glimour or jimmy page
o_O
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: adamzero on January 24, 2005, 11:33:59 PM
Jimi Hendrix not that amazing . . . now that's just crazy talk.
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: tkitna on January 25, 2005, 01:24:40 AM
The David Gilmour versus Eddie Van Halen thing is impossible. They are two totaly different styles. In my opinion, in a solo, Gilmour could say more with 5 notes than Eddie could with his 25.

Speaking of this list, where in the hell is Steve Lukather?
Title: Re: Rolling Stone 100 Greatest Guitarists
Post by: Sondra on January 25, 2005, 01:39:44 AM
Quote from: tkitna
The David Gilmour versus Eddie Van Halen thing is impossible. They are two totaly different styles. In my opinion, in a solo, Gilmour could say more with 5 notes than Eddie could with his 25.


I love that. It's sums it up so well. Why didn't I think of it!