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Title: Bob Dylan!
Post by: McLennon on January 28, 2007, 11:18:51 PM
what do people think of Bob?

I think he's great!! love his songs and lyrics! I have booked tickets to go see him in April this year! which will be great!!

and whats your favorite dylan lyrics??

I like him saying something like "some the people can be part right all of the time, all the people can be part right some of the time but all the people can't be all right, all of the time"

also "theres no sucess like failure and failures no sucess at all"! :D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on January 28, 2007, 11:39:32 PM
I worship teh Dylan, as most people on here know. :)

As for favorite lines, one that sticks out at me right now is a line from "Bob Dylan's 115th Dream":

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The man says, "Get out of here
I'll tear you limb from limb"
I said, "You know, they refused Jesus, too"
He said, "You're not Him!"

That one always makes me laugh every time I hear it.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: McLennon on January 29, 2007, 04:41:14 PM
haha thats a great song! I love the end saying "he said his name was Colubus and I just said "good luck"!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Kevin on January 29, 2007, 04:47:31 PM
I can't remember the songs name (Desolation Row?) but the Dylan line " somethings happening here but you don't know what it is, do you, Mr Jones?" is brilliant. Sums up what was  going on perfectly. Genius.
It's on songs like this that I think his sneering vocal and "I don't give a sh*t" harmonica  all meld so well. When everyone else was seeking musical perfection he was content to sound like some punk bashing out songs on a street corner. (and some will see that as good and some as bad. For me it's good.)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: on January 29, 2007, 06:14:23 PM
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what do people think of Bob?

I think he's great!! love his songs and lyrics! I have booked tickets to go see him in April this year! which will be great!!

and whats your favorite dylan lyrics??

I like him saying something like "some the people can be part right all of the time, all the people can be part right some of the time but all the people can't be all right, all of the time"

also "theres no sucess like failure and failures no sucess at all"! :D


No when you see him live, it will not be great, he sucks live.


Anyway his music is amazing, and i agree with mairi that some of his best lyrics are in that song, especially at the end. The song is about dylan who goes and discovers america and explores it with some shipmates, and finds everyone there's crazy, and they all get thrown in jail. Bob escapes and tries to find numerous ways of getting the others out of jail too. At at the end:
" But the funniest thing was as i was leaving the bay, i saw 3 ships sailing, they were all heading my way. I asked the captain what his name was and why he didn't drive a truck. He said his name was Columbous, i just said good luck."

Love that song. Chimes of freedom i also think has some of his best lyrics. His music can take you through all drifferent scenes and feelings!

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: McLennon on January 29, 2007, 09:13:15 PM
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I can't remember the songs name (Desolation Row?) but the Dylan line " somethings happening here but you don't know what it is, do you, Mr Jones?" is brilliant. Sums up what was  going on perfectly. Genius.
It's on songs like this that I think his sneering vocal and "I don't give a sh*t" harmonica  all meld so well. When everyone else was seeking musical perfection he was content to sound like some punk bashing out songs on a street corner. (and some will see that as good and some as bad. For me it's good.)

yes thats good! the song is ballad of a thin man!

yeah I have heard he just plays piano and turns away from the audience but still worth it!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on February 01, 2007, 05:07:04 AM
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No when you see him live, it will not be great, he sucks live.

From what I've heard, he's either a hit or miss live. It probably doesn't help that he's started smoking again after quitting to record Modern Times. Silly man...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Sondra on February 01, 2007, 05:14:47 AM
I saw him last year and thought he was great. He's a freaking legend for God's sake. You need to appreciate him for what his is at this point. My friend did point out though that he ended every sentence on a high note no matter what the song. Blowin' in the WIND. Like a rolling STONE. Forever YOUNG. Lay lady LAY. After she pointed that out, it got a little annoying. But oh well. He's Bob. He was never normal.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: McLennon on February 01, 2007, 03:45:42 PM
hahaha that would be so funny if he does that!!

I looked at some set lists from 2006 and he never seems to keep it the same from night to night!!

I really hope he does some old classics!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Sondra on February 02, 2007, 03:34:09 AM
The thing that disappointed me was that he seems to have given up guitar. First I read that it's because he had arthritis. Then I read that it was because he just felt like it. So who knows. He didn't really play the keyboards though but he stood behind them the whole time pushing a few keys. Sort of like Brian Wilson these days. Only Bob stands and Brian sits. Maybe this is the new thing amongst eccentric musical geniuses from the sixties.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: adamzero on February 02, 2007, 04:29:06 AM
Word on the street is back pain.  It's easier for him to sit/half stand at the keyboards.

I saw him a couple years ago.  Even if you hated Dylan, his band is magnificent.  There are good song lists on expectingrain.com--he rotates through about forty or fifty tunes.  Usually does about fifteen songs with two encores (Like a Rolling Stone and All Along the Watchtower were it for awhile).  

He did a little chit-chat.  Mentioned doing some albums in Nashville with Charlie Daniels and said you can't do much better than Charlie.

The vocals can be hit and miss (as you'd expect), but when he really hits one like Highway 61, boy, you better watch out.  

Bob goes off stage first and hopes onto his bus.  Then the rest of the band goes--to their bus.  
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Sondra on February 24, 2007, 03:17:28 AM
Merle Haggard made some jokes about that bus thing. Like Bob was anti-social or something. He actually made quite a few jokes about Bob! It was pretty funny. He even did an imitation of him singing Blowin' in the Wind. I think Merle was a bit p*ssed at how much less he was being paid and was a bit bitter. He gave a great performance though.

Anyway, I LOVE Bob Dylan. His talent is amazing. I
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Revolution on February 24, 2007, 03:31:06 AM
All along the watchtower is Brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!! Knockin' on Heaven's door is Great! Plus Jimmy  Vaugn And Junior Brown played guitar on his new c.d. !!!!!!!That'll complement the already Great lyrics!!!!!!! Iknow- off topic!!!!!!! :B
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: adamzero on February 24, 2007, 03:42:37 AM
Merle's kinda a sorehead.  But I love him.

Jimi is probably the only performer to outperform a Dylan version IMHO.   With the possible exception of The Band.  I like Rick Danko's "Wheel on Fire" better than the Dylan Basement Tapes.  Also, The Band's version of "Blind Willie McTell" (sung by Levon and Rick on "Jericho") is much better than Dylan's demo (with yapping dog) on the Bootleg series.  

In fact, I think that "Blind Willie McTell" rivals Hendrix as the greatest Dylan cover of all time.  I told Garth Hudson that one time and he said the version by him and his wife Maude was better.  

I love Garth, but . . . .


Dylan's voice was in its prime in the 60s-70s.  Check out the Live 1975 or Live 1966 to hear him sing (Apparently even Frank Sinatra appreciated Dylan's singing).  

Too much smoking and arena shouting started to do his voice in the 80s.  
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: number14 on March 03, 2007, 06:26:02 PM
mine is " the harmonicas play the skeleton keys and the rain and these visions of johanna are now all that remain ".............. love bob : )
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: mr kite on March 03, 2007, 10:21:47 PM
My favorite DYLAN period is from FREEWHEELIN to BLONDE ON BLONDE from that time he`s untouchable,so many great songs its hard to choose .JUST LIKE A WOMAN thats proberly my favorite at the moment .
Seen him live twice not that great, but hey! its his bobness  8)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: pc31 on March 04, 2007, 12:35:08 AM
i never dug bob...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: adamzero on March 04, 2007, 02:58:12 AM
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i never dug bob...

. . . cep' you be willin' to dig his grave?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: pc31 on March 04, 2007, 04:40:46 AM
do i gotta wait till he's toes up???
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: adamzero on March 04, 2007, 05:45:01 AM
As long as you see that his grave is kept clean . . . .
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Revolution on March 04, 2007, 11:25:03 PM
  Love the lyrics to Like a Rollin' Stone. BTW- Brian Jones thought ' Ballad of   a aga thin man "waswritten about him .Off Topic,again! :B
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Sondra on April 04, 2007, 05:03:34 AM
BOB!
(http://expectingrain.com/dok/jcli/BOBNJOAN.GIF)
(http://expectingrain.com/dok/jcli/TARANOUT.GIF)

Even Charlie Brown's a fan:
(http://expectingrain.com/dok/jcli/PEANUTS_.GIF)

Bob has excellent fashion sense. Or he used to anyway. I don't know lately.
(http://www.morethings.com/music/bob_dylan/photo_gallery/tv-guide.jpg)(http://www.melbay.com/bigcovers/GW502DVD.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on April 05, 2007, 07:38:34 PM
I love that picture of him and Joan. Sooo cute. I actually painted it on a huge ceiling tile for my school and it turned out pretty well.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: McLennon on April 13, 2007, 12:16:35 AM
I see that Bob is playing his guitar again this UK tour! sunday will be a blast!! :D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: McLennon on April 19, 2007, 06:57:06 PM
Sunday was a blast!! he played eletrci guitar for first half and then electric keyboard!! his voice is funny these days but what a great show!!

1. Cat's In The Well (Bob on electric guitar)  
2. It Ain't Me, Babe (Bob on electric guitar)  
3. Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues (Bob on electric guitar)  
4. It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)
(Bob on electric guitar, Donnie on violin)  
5. The Levee's Gonna Break
(Bob on keyboard, Donnie on electric mandolin, Tony on standup bass)  
6. Spirit On The Water (Bob on electric keyboard and harp, Tony on standup bass)  
7. Highway 61 Revisited (Bob on electric keyboard)  
8. When The Deal Goes Down (Bob on electric keyboard, Tony on standup bass)  
9. Rollin' And Tumblin' (Bob on electric keyboard)  
10. Chimes Of Freedom (Bob on electric keyboard)  
11. Blind Willie McTell (Bob on electric keyboard, Donnie on banjo)  
12. Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again
(Bob on electric keyboard and harp)  
13.  Nettie Moore (Bob on electric keybo, Donnie on violin)  
14. Summer Days (Bob on electric keyboard, Tony on standup bass)  
15. Like A Rolling Stone (Bob on electric keyboard and harp)  
    
  (encore)
16.  Thunder On The Mountain (Bob on electric keyboard)  
17.  All Along The Watchtower (Bob on electric keyboard)  
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Kevin on April 20, 2007, 04:51:50 PM
Try as I might I can't get my girlfriend interested in The Beatles. But I played Highway 61 the other night (as background to a little evening bbq) and it immediately caught her attention. It is truly a great album.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on April 21, 2007, 06:50:47 AM
Good set list. Nice mix of hits and more obscure songs for the fans.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Kevin on April 23, 2007, 11:12:26 AM
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My favorite DYLAN period is from FREEWHEELIN to BLONDE ON BLONDE from that time he`s untouchable,so many great songs its hard to choose .JUST LIKE A WOMAN thats proberly my favorite at the moment .
Seen him live twice not that great, but hey! its his bobness  8)

Agreed. As much as I love The Beatles I would have to rank Bob as the most important artist of the 60's, perhaps of the last 40 years. While the debt works both ways, I think that without his influence The Beatles would have dissapeared (like Gerry Marsden, Hermans Hermits) once Beatlemania ran out of steam and they lost their tennybopper audience. I think Highway 61 (1965) shows an imagination and breadth of vision that people like John Lennon could only gape at in awe and copy as best they could.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on April 23, 2007, 09:01:25 PM
At the same time, we have to acknowledge the Beatles' influence on Bob. He has stated before that it was hearing the lads that re-kindled his interest in rock and roll.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: harihead on April 24, 2007, 12:31:38 AM
Well put, Mairi! :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Sondra on April 24, 2007, 01:09:10 AM
Didn't somebody just post a quote from Dylan talking about how amazed he is by Paul McCartney? Wasn't that here? I think the Beatles would have evolved without Dylan, but there's no doubt he was an important influence. I think Lennon would have eventually gone that route as he tended to write about himself and what he was feeling.  I think everything that happened in the late sixties (in the US) was an influence on them. Everyone became more outspoken. Bob was just doing it a few years earlier than most.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: adamzero on April 24, 2007, 02:14:03 AM
As much as I love Bob, you have to put his achievement as a songwriter into the context of the Beat movement and the big debt he owes to Allen Ginsberg, in particular, from whom Bob adapted the prophetic persona, French symbolist imagery and post-Whitman long line structure.  

As that pic with Baez shows, Bob's a short little fellar, but he stands on pretty big shoulders.  
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Kevin on April 24, 2007, 08:47:32 AM
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As much as I love Bob, you have to put his achievement as a songwriter into the context of the Beat movement and the big debt he owes to Allen Ginsberg, in particular, from whom Bob adapted the prophetic persona, French symbolist imagery and post-Whitman long line structure.  

  

No man is an island - everyone has an influence. Whatever context you put his songwriting into it changed a generation. Everyones got a big debt to someone.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: on April 24, 2007, 08:53:49 AM
Parents usually.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Kevin on April 24, 2007, 08:55:48 AM
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Didn't somebody just post a quote from Dylan talking about how amazed he is by Paul McCartney? Wasn't that here? I think the Beatles would have evolved without Dylan, but there's no doubt he was an important influence. I think Lennon would have eventually gone that route as he tended to write about himself and what he was feeling.  I think everything that happened in the late sixties (in the US) was an influence on them. Everyone became more outspoken. Bob was just doing it a few years earlier than most.

I don't think there's any guarantee of that. Before he started listening to Dylan Johns lyric was very much aimed at his tenny bopper audience. When he decided to be Bob everything changed - the way he wrote (like bob) the way he sang (like Bob) the way he dressed (like Bob). Of course he might have eventually gotten  the idea from somewhere else, if someone else with Bobs genius had emerged in the vaccuum. But I really don't think that person would have been John Lennon.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Kevin on April 24, 2007, 08:58:20 AM
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At the same time, we have to acknowledge the Beatles' influence on Bob. He has stated before that it was hearing the lads that re-kindled his interest in rock and roll.

Totally agree. The Beatles inspired Bob to pick up an electric guitar. Bob inspired The Beatles to change the way they made music. Fair swap.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Kevin on April 24, 2007, 09:14:37 AM
This is all fanofthefab4's fault by the way. Before she got me reading that article by that guy who's name I can't remember I was happy in the belief that The Beatles were the most innovative, important thing EVER to happen to rock, perhaps to the universe. Now I've got seeds of doubt, and everything I  took as a given I'm looking at anew. I thought I have just believed what I have been told and had never looked at things for myself. Bits of me now think that things like the sitar and backward tapes are just silly little trends made popular by a band elevated to greatness on the back of Beatlemania, which had less to do with music than image and time.
I need an intervention! I need hands upon me! I am lost.
But I swear, if I hear Imagine one more time or see one more story about that bloody piano I'll puke.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BlueMeanie on April 24, 2007, 09:38:07 AM
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Bits of me now think that things like the sitar and backward tapes are just silly little trends made popular by a band elevated to greatness on the back of Beatlemania, which had less to do with music than image and time.

Most of me thinks this!!

I generally think that everything about The Beatles should be taken a little less seriously. Sometimes people are beyond reproach, as far as the press go for instance. If someone had dared to give a crap reveiw to 'Love You Too', or suggested that the sound engineer must have got his tapes mixed up on 'I'm Only Sleeping' then they'd probably never have done it again.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: raxo on April 24, 2007, 09:49:36 AM
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Didn't somebody just post a quote from Dylan talking about how amazed he is by Paul McCartney? [...]

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Bob Dylan talks about Paul to Rolling Stone:

"....Hard to find a better singer than [John] Lennon was or McCartney was and still is. I mean I'm in awe of McCartney. He's about the only one that I am in awe of. But I'm in awe of him. He can do it all and he's never let up, you know. He's got the gift for melody, he's got the rhythm. He can play any instrument. He can scream and shout as good as anybody and he can sing the ballad as good as anybody, you know so... And his melodies are, you know, effortless. That's what you have to be in awe... I'm in awe of him maybe just because he's just so damn effortless. I mean I just wish he'd quit, you know. [laughs] Just everything and anything that comes out of his mouth is just framed in a melody, you know ..."

from here: http://dmbeatles.com/forums/b-mccartney/m-1176284442/s-60/

Since some said that Paul sounds as an old man on Ever Present Past I thought that that one was the thread to post this at ...

The question and complete answer were these:

In the 40th Anniversary issue of Rolling Stone magazine, Dylan was asked:

"RS: What was your relationship with John Lennon like? Somewhat competitive?

Bob: "Yeah. Only to a certain extent, but not really. Him and McCartney both, really, they were fantastic singers. Lennon, to this day, it's hard to find a better singer than Lennon was, or than McCartney was and still is. I'm in awe of McCartney. He's about the only one that I am in awe of. He can do it all. And he's never let up. He's got the gift for melody, he's got the rhythm, he can play any instrument. He can scream and shout as good as anybody. And his melodies are effortless, that's what you have to be in awe of...He's just so damn effortless. I just wish he'd quit [laughs]. Everything that comes out of his mouth is just framed in melody."
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BlueMeanie on April 24, 2007, 10:11:13 AM
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Since some said that Paul sounds as an old man on Ever Present Past I thought that that one was the thread to post this at ...

That was me Rax. But this is what I actually said:

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The trouble with this is that we all know how Paul's voice used to sound, and what he could do with it. Can we accept it any other way? Cash never had a 'great' voice, and his took on a character and feeling all of it's own which I'm sure is what encouraged his and Rick Rubens' choice of songs. Paul's will never have that. In fact when unprocessed he's getting dangerously close to sounding like an old man with a cold.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: raxo on April 24, 2007, 10:46:18 AM
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That was me Rax. But this is what I actually said:
You could be one of them but not the only one  ;) ... before you said anything this was posted there (I don't like to give names so I've deleted author's name here :))
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Cool. Definately a step up from Fine Line. Love the guitar riff - sounds quite modern. I'm a little critical of the vocals - a bit too processed and polished. Would have been better a bit rawer. Won't set the world on fire, but a good effort and should get some decent radio play (which after all is its job.) My score: 7/10.
Not bad for an old codger.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on April 24, 2007, 07:47:08 PM
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Totally agree. The Beatles inspired Bob to pick up an electric guitar. Bob inspired The Beatles to change the way they made music. Fair swap.

Were you being sarcastic there? I was just wondering. I'm not offended or anything, it's just hard to tell on the internet.

I think a lot of people don't realize how huge a deal it was for Bob to go electric. The electric guitar was a relatively new invention at the time and generally associated with mainstream rock and roll. Many folkies were outraged and furious, and thought Bob was a sell-out. You can see the concert footage and everything where he gets called "Judas", but still, many people forget what a big thing it was. The public responded more to Bob going electric than they did to any of the changes the Beatles made to themselves. (Except the Jesus comment)

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Sondra on April 25, 2007, 12:39:43 AM
I don't think it's as simple as all that. Bob had an influence mainly on Lennon and how he wrote lyrics. I don't think Bob's influence was all that encompassing. The Beatles were influenced by MANY things. They did things in the studio that Bob never even dreamed of. If Lennon became a more introspective lyricist thanks to Bob, than that's great but I think that's pretty much the end of it. I don't think Dylan changed the way the Beatles made music. Lennon copied his style only very briefly. McCartney had his own style and influences including things like the Beach Boys, avant garde and so on. Lennon also fed off of many influences and lets not forget about George. Dylan was just another piece of the puzzle. As for the political aspect of it, I think they would have spoken out sooner or later anyway. That's just the way the tide was turning.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: adamzero on April 25, 2007, 01:08:38 AM
I liked what Bob had to say about Paul.  Coming from Bob, well, that show's you where Paul really ranks--no matter what detractors may say.   Thanks for the link, Sandra.

BTW, there's a good bootleg of Bob and George doing "Yesterday" which some have called a send-up or a joke.  I think it's a fairly serious version, with Dylan really singing it (maybe thinking of using it on "Self-Portrait").  I also think it's a great adaptation that someone alt-country flavored should try out.  

Course I can't hear Bob doing "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" but who knows--maybe he could pull it off.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: harihead on April 25, 2007, 04:03:39 AM
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I need an intrervention! I need hands upon me! I am lost.

Here you go, Kevin! Step into the healing hands. You will be cured of excessive Beatles admiration forever, just like Blue Meanie!

(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s95/harihead/bluemeanie4.jpg)

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BlueMeanie on April 25, 2007, 06:43:32 AM
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Here you go, Kevin! Step into the healing hands. You will be cured of excessive Beatles admiration forever, just like Blue Meanie!

([url]http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s95/harihead/bluemeanie4.jpg[/url])



I think I'm looking pretty admiring in that picture. ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Kevin on April 25, 2007, 08:18:03 AM
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I don't think it's as simple as all that. Bob had an influence mainly on Lennon and how he wrote lyrics. I don't think Bob's influence was all that encompassing. The Beatles were influenced by MANY things. They did things in the studio that Bob never even dreamed of. If Lennon became a more introspective lyricist thanks to Bob, than that's great but I think that's pretty much the end of it. I don't think Dylan changed the way the Beatles made music. Lennon copied his style only very briefly. McCartney had his own style and influences including things like the Beach Boys, avant garde and so on. Lennon also fed off of many influences and lets not forget about George. Dylan was just another piece of the puzzle. As for the political aspect of it, I think they would have spoken out sooner or later anyway. That's just the way the tide was turning.

Yeah - you're probably right. I got a bit carried away there. There's never any one simple answer to these things. Music evolves with everyone adding their bit, and we could trace influences back to Zog banging a rock. Sandra's right - it was just the way it was heading.
Mairi - I was trying to be funny (and failing), not sarcastic. (well maybe a little) Apologies.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: harihead on April 25, 2007, 03:22:13 PM
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I think I'm looking pretty admiring in that picture. ;D
You can't fool me, BM. That smile is just painted on! ;)

Kevin, there's no need to apologize! I was just trying to be playful. I did take it as funny, which is why this picture sprang to mind. Now, back to the musical discussion. :)


(Wait a minute-- reads Kevin's response again) You said Mairi and not Hari. I'm blind. *stumbles off to get more coffee*
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Kevin on April 25, 2007, 03:38:09 PM
^I'm a bit annoyed with myself over that. I'm really into human evolution, and reading all those books has changed the way I think about things. I try to put the same reasoning to Beatles music (hence my recent obsession with the why's rather than the how's) and to put all my eggs in the Bob Basket like that was just plain dumb. Dumb dumb dumb.
Bob's my Piltdown Man and I'm the Charles Dawson of DM's.
I have to go wipe myself now.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on April 26, 2007, 09:18:00 PM
Nothing to do with his influence on the Beatles but just a random thought on Bob.

I was listening to Highway 61 last night and Queen Jane Approximately came on (which is purportedly about Joan Baez). It got me thinking what a jerk he could be back in those days. He has a lot of nerve to write a song like that about her, putting her down. After all, he was the one who treated her like crap, cheated on her, and broke her heart. Just goes to show that you can be the total a**hole in a relationship, but if you write a good enough song about it, people will take your side.

I still love him though, of course. He was arrogant as hell in the '60s but he was only in his early twenties. I don't know too much about his relationship with Sara but I hope he's learned to treat women a little better.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Kevin on April 27, 2007, 07:35:18 AM
^Agreed Mairi. Can't stand the guy. In his autobiography he calls himself a visionary. His delight in torturing John in the cab scene is excrutiating. He's a tosser.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on April 27, 2007, 02:47:14 PM
Mmm, well, I wouldn't go that far.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BlueMeanie on April 27, 2007, 04:43:02 PM
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Mmm, well, I wouldn't go that far.

Oh no. Dylans' a twat!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: on April 27, 2007, 04:51:45 PM
George said he's bonkers.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Sondra on April 27, 2007, 05:38:06 PM
Any genius worth his salt has to be a little crazy.

I don't even know what "worth his salt" means, but it sounded good so there you go.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: harihead on April 28, 2007, 04:14:23 AM
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George said he's bonkers.
Oh, that's interesting! Can you tell me more about that? Cheers.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BlueMeanie on April 28, 2007, 07:25:22 AM
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Any genius worth his salt has to be a little crazy.

I don't even know what "worth his salt" means, but it sounded good so there you go.

OK, here we go. Many moons ago salt was a very valuable commodity. In fact Roman soldiers were often paid in salt (Salis - where the word salary is derived from) so they could trade it. So the expression 'Anybody worth his salt' is taken to mean somebody who deserves what they are being paid.

Having trouble thinking of a genius who isn't slightly nuts. But then, I'm having trouble thinking of anyone I personally know who isn't either!!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: harihead on April 28, 2007, 06:44:19 PM
Thanks for the history lesson, Blue Meanie!

There does to be a connection between being a highly creative personality and being a little off-balance.  I have an artist in the family, and in order to keep the peace I have to give her special dispensation to be... an irritant.  ;D

This is not meant to excuse creative people when they hurt the ones that they love.  I just think that a number of creative people are not as calm or kind as some others. We all have our strengths... and weaknesses.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: GreenApple on April 29, 2007, 06:05:02 PM
Quote from: 185
[...] In his autobiography he calls himself a visionary. [...]

So I wonder what he would consider his vision to be? Wouldn't we know by now? The thing that annoys me about Dylan is the way a lot of people seem to speak of him in as though he's some kind of great hero. Dylan made a film in the eighties (anyone heard of it?), for which a documentary was also made. The funny part was when Dylan's agent, or whoever, was telling someone forcefully on the phone that something was not good enough for 'BOB DYLAN!!!' Had a good laugh at it later on with someone else who saw it.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: on April 30, 2007, 08:34:17 AM
Quote from: 366
George said he's bonkers.

Well he did once.

I can recall things I just don't know where I recall them from.

A book I believe, something like he's harmless but completely off his rocker.

The 'Cousin Bob' lyric in Brainwashed is a favorite.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: McLennon on April 30, 2007, 03:52:35 PM
Quote from: 9
I liked what Bob had to say about Paul.  Coming from Bob, well, that show's you where Paul really ranks--no matter what detractors may say.   Thanks for the link, Sandra.

BTW, there's a good bootleg of Bob and George doing "Yesterday" which some have called a send-up or a joke.  I think it's a fairly serious version, with Dylan really singing it (maybe thinking of using it on "Self-Portrait").  I also think it's a great adaptation that someone alt-country flavored should try out.  

Course I can't hear Bob doing "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" but who knows--maybe he could pull it off.

yes, i have that bootleg of bob and George singing yesterday! its really good! do you know when it was from? possibly the basement tapes? are there anymore covers that bob done of the beatles?

I know the beatles sang "blowin in the wind", "positvly forth street" from dylans list! they are cool! not too clear though!

I think thats really cool what Bob said about McCartney, i always got the impression that Bob didn't respect McCartney as i don't think he has ever played with him? he has with george and stuff so assumed he was closer with him which is probably true, i just don't see bob to be one of those people who likes Pauls ballad songs!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Kevin on April 30, 2007, 03:59:36 PM
Quote from: 544

I think thats really cool what Bob said about McCartney, i always got the impression that Bob didn't respect McCartney as i don't think he has ever played with him? he has with george and stuff so assumed he was closer with him which is probably true, i just don't see bob to be one of those people who likes Pauls ballad songs!

I think that had more to do with Paul's decision not to surround himself with superstars post breakup. And George had hung out with Bob prior to the split. I may be wrong, but I don't think John did anything with Dylan (?)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: McLennon on April 30, 2007, 04:02:16 PM
Quote from: 185

I think that had more to do with Paul's decision not to surround himself with superstars post breakup. And George had hung out with Bob prior to the split. I may be wrong, but I don't think John did anything with Dylan (?)

thats a true point, I always just think bob and john did something after the car scene and similar styles but maybe they didn't perform together! obviously george had the travelling wilbury's!
I saw that in some paul interview a few days back that when Paul had formed wings he didn't want a group of famous people which would have been too easy or something, and wanted just decent people who were less known! i think he made a wise choice on that one!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Kevin on April 30, 2007, 04:11:05 PM
Quote from: 544

thats a true point, I always just think bob and john did something after the car scene  

You mean in '66? Poor old John - I think the thought of doing anything with Bob would have mortified him. I think John was in awe of him, and scared sh*tless. Bob would have torn him to shreds.
There's that scene in the Dylan movie (the name escapes me) when he's in the room with Donovan, and he's pretty merciless towards him. I think he regarded them (rightly or wrongly) as imitatators and was rather contemptious of them
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: McLennon on April 30, 2007, 04:14:55 PM
Quote from: 185

You mean in '66? Poor old John - I think the thought of doing anything with Bob would have mortified him. I think John was in awe of him, and scared sh*tless. Bob would have torn him to shreds.
There's that scene in the Dylan movie (the name escapes me) when he's in the room with Donovan, and he's pretty merciless towards him. I think he regarded them (rightly or wrongly) as imitatators and was rather contemptious of them

in "don't look back"? i have got that, i don't remember him mentioning the beatles, or maybe actually, during an interview!
the only simulairty would have to be norwegian wood/fourth time round and i'm a loser!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Kevin on April 30, 2007, 04:23:53 PM
Quote from: 544

in "don't look back"? i have got that, i don't remember him mentioning the beatles, or maybe actually, during an interview!
the only simulairty would have to be norwegian wood/fourth time round and i'm a loser!

No sorry, I meant he was merciless towards Donovan. Knowing Bob, and reading how John was so nervous about meeting Dylan in that cab (he was sure Dylan was setting him up) that it wouldn't have gone well.
Do you really think those songs are the only ones that are similar? I hear many more. John  changed the way he sang - lowering his voice - in a bid to be Dylanish. He wore a Bob Dylan hat. Girl, Help!, You've Got To Hide Your Love Away ( a real showcase for John's growly Dylan-voice)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BlueMeanie on May 01, 2007, 08:08:34 AM
Quote from: 544
I saw that in some paul interview a few days back that when Paul had formed wings he didn't want a group of famous people which would have been too easy or something, and wanted just decent people who were less known! i think he made a wise choice on that one!

I know that Paul said that but I still think it's crap. He didn't want anyone taking the focus away from him. Whereas George was quite happy to sit back and be the sideman at times, Paul would never have been happy with that. Even in The Beatles! Witness how out of place and uncomfortable he looks on Concert For George because he's not the main man.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Sondra on May 01, 2007, 07:22:50 PM
I don't agree with that assessment at all. I think it would have looked ridiculous for Paul to put together some kind of super group right after the demise of the Beatles. George at least waited many years before taking that leap so it worked better. And even then it was more of a novelty act or something. I think Paul would be more than willing to share the spotlight if he found another partner he could fit with. I don't think it's so easy for him to go from the type of working relationship he had with John, George and Ringo to something subpar. He did try something with Elvis Costello. That worked out fairly good for both of them. At any rate, I think it's rough being a Beatle and NOT being the center of attention. Especially for Lennon or McCartney. You notice John was never into the super group thing much either. Other than for a joke. George was the quiet one, so of course it was easier for him to blend.

Also, I don't think he felt out of place because he wasn't the center of attention at the Concert for George. I think that had more to do with tensions from past relationships and things like that. He was pretty laid back and supportive. I mean, stick Paul McCartney on a piano so Clapton can showcase himself? I think he handled it pretty well. And another thing about the concert and Dylan. Why are people getting on Dylan for not appearing? He did his own tribute during his show at Madison Square Garden. He sang Something and spoke about his friend. I mean, does he have to go make a public appearance to show his respects? How do we know what he did in private? None of the Harrison family seemed to be offended about it. It was all Clapton's doing anyway. It was his way to make himself feel better. How many of them or even Beatles showed up to the Lennon tribute?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on May 01, 2007, 08:05:13 PM
Wait a minute. I'm confused. Is it the wake that Paul didn't go to, or Concert for George, or both? Or does the concert count as a wake? None of the wakes I've gone to were like that.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BlueMeanie on May 01, 2007, 10:01:26 PM
Quote from: 218
Wait a minute. I'm confused. Is it the wake that Paul didn't go to, or Concert for George, or both? Or does the concert count as a wake? None of the wakes I've gone to were like that.

Bob didn't go to The Wake (Concert For George).
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: on May 01, 2007, 10:19:33 PM
I somehow don't think George had a conventional wake Mairi.

The Concert was basically a 'wake'.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Kevin on May 02, 2007, 08:19:19 AM
Quote from: 216
I don't agree with that assessment at all. I think it would have looked ridiculous for Paul to put together some kind of super group right after the demise of the Beatles. George at least waited many years before taking that leap so it worked better.

The personel on All Things Must Pass:
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: McLennon on May 02, 2007, 01:35:17 PM
Quote from: 483

I know that Paul said that but I still think it's crap. He didn't want anyone taking the focus away from him. Whereas George was quite happy to sit back and be the sideman at times, Paul would never have been happy with that. Even in The Beatles! Witness how out of place and uncomfortable he looks on Concert For George because he's not the main man.

Well I would agree with Paul even if he didn't want the focus taken off him, i respect him enough to think he should deserve much focus on him, I mean yes its good to work with others but i agree with sandra, it would have been too much of a leap to go streight in with others! and he done stuff with jackson and many famous people but do you think Paul would have had as good a songs on his albums or taken the same route of creativeness if he had others along side him! His albums show his thinking and contribution, had other famous stars helped on alot of his stuff it could have ruined it! I think having the band like he does now with rusty and abe shows alot more excitement and creativeness then it would do anyway with him along side clapton or someone!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Kevin on May 02, 2007, 02:11:48 PM
Quote from: 544

, I mean yes its good to work with others but i agree with sandra, it would have been too much of a leap to go streight in with others!

But John and George did and made what are generally considered the best works of their solo careers. Paul didn't and made McCartney and Wild Life.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Sondra on May 02, 2007, 07:47:29 PM
Quote from: 185

The personel on All Things Must Pass:
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: adamzero on May 02, 2007, 08:59:06 PM
I think Paul basically wanted bandmates who would play what he told them to play.  And smile, dammit!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Sondra on May 02, 2007, 10:12:20 PM
Aww, you guys just won't give Paul a break will you!!   ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on May 03, 2007, 12:33:22 AM
Quote from: 483

Bob didn't go to The Wake (Concert For George).

I meant to say Bob in that last post, but I think everyone knew that right?

Anyway, now that I know that the Concert was considered George's wake, I can't really get too upset with Bob. Everyone has different ways of dealing with grief, and Bob especially is notoriously private about his personal life. You can't expect him to grieve openly the way, say, Paul did with Linda, or Clapton did with his son. Not everyone wants to make a big public affair of their losses.  You're being a little hard on him. I'm sure he spoke privately with Olivia and Dhani.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: on May 03, 2007, 12:48:03 AM
You don't ave to live on your sense of greif
As it won't ever die on your own belief
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: harihead on May 03, 2007, 02:55:11 AM
Quote from: 216
Even when George brought up forming a band again after playing for him John thought it was a bad idea. He said he was embarrassed for him for even thinking he would consider such a move.  
If I understand the situation, John was disappointed that George would ask him to be in a band that did not include Yoko.  John said (paraphrasing), "George knows that I don't want to do anything without Yoko." It wasn't the band that John was objecting to so much, as a band without Yoko in it.

One of my regrets is that both John and George did not form a band again after the Beatles broke up (I mean just any band, not a band with both of them in it). George is an incredibly social creature, and he enjoyed it when he played with other players.  I think John also did better when he had other people around him than just Yoko.  I think just the two of them tended to get rather isolated in their own world. John was a tricky beast to coax out of his shell.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Kevin on May 03, 2007, 08:24:13 AM
Quote from: 216
Aww, you guys just won't give Paul a break will you!!   ;)

I have tried not to speculate on Paul's reasons for not using his superstar buddies. I just wanted to show that such an idea was not as fantastical as some people have said.
And I see your distinction between using them for recording and touring.
I think it's obvious that Paul tried to keep his immediate post-Beatle career relatively low key compared to the others. If I were to speculate I would put it down to a loss of confidence rather than a desire to surround himself with yes-men. He got a lot of (unfair in my opinion) bad press over the breakup, and he may not have felt overly comfortable in the kind of company the others were keeping. And I find that very understandable. To his credit his approach worked better in the long run -the quality of his work increased while the others deteriorated.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: adamzero on May 06, 2007, 08:28:21 PM
My brothers (two different ones) sent me this link.  Puts Bob and fandom in perspective: http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7007232453
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on May 06, 2007, 08:53:55 PM
Hahaha! That's quite funny!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on May 08, 2007, 11:04:07 PM
For the ladies: One very hot photo of Bob.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/hermionestarchild/celebs/hotbob02.jpg)

*le sigh*
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: komakino on May 08, 2007, 11:31:58 PM
thank you *sigh*
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: bobbydylanlover on October 16, 2007, 03:52:51 AM
Oh that picture is amazing
*melts*

Everyone I know thinks Bob is hideous! o.o
Well, my bestie thinks he was kind of attractive..
But my mum says he's a creep!
AH! He's beautiful<33
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: adamzero on November 05, 2007, 12:34:22 AM
Bob must be thinking he's gotten too popular.  So he's shilling for Cadillac.  Check out the ads.  http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/music/2007/10/bob_dylan_is_the_sellouttiest.html

My first question is when did Bob start talking like a transsexual Wolfman Jack?  Second, why the pimp-mobile Escalade of all the cars he could possibly pimp?  At least they used The Clash for Jaguar.  

Third, is Bob really just a real-life form of Krusty the Clown--who found that he was ultimately better at selling out than being a "serious" clown?  (Remember the Simpson's episode about the Canyonero?  Bob's driving a Canyonero!  With black leather "driving gloves"!)

Finally, who in the Escalade-buying demographic listens to, or cares about Bob?  

This is truly puzzling.  
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: CompleteUnkown on December 12, 2007, 05:24:26 AM
I love Bob!
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/236/bobdylan1965jpgzn6.jpg)
(http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/9760/harrisondylan2ho.jpg)
(http://maximumbob.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/dylan.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: bobbydylanlover on January 03, 2008, 11:11:59 PM
If you like Bob..
Or scrawny people in general
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j150/btlzfan/bobomfgggg.jpg)
(: pretty divine, isn't he?


Does anyone have many of his bootlegs?
They're personally my favourites.
I have the Bootleg Series 1-7 and the Basement Tapes
Along with various unreleased songs
Sooooooooo dear to me (:
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: dabbik on January 14, 2008, 12:02:16 PM
Quote
I gave her my heart but she wanted my soul
Quote
All I can do is be me, whoever that is.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: number14 on January 15, 2008, 01:40:40 AM
Dylan's bootlegs are great. Bootleg series volume 4- the version of visions of johanna is soooo awesome. I like volume six but I think the song choice could have been improved. I love dylan more than anything and all my friends just don't understand.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: bobbydylanlover on January 20, 2008, 06:23:56 PM
Oh yes. Every bootleg I hear..They're all so amazing.
My father always told me the Basement Tapes were horrible..
..I think they are pleasant as can be! :]
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: adamzero on January 22, 2008, 03:19:40 AM
The Basement Tapes are about the loosest and unself-counscious you can ever hear Dylan.  Garth's organ is pretty cool throughout.  Too bad these two couldn't get together to make a record for old times.  "Crash on the Levee" is a perfect example: the version on Greatest Hits II is very respectable, if not austere, but the version on Basement Tapes is goofy and downright spooky at the same time.  Some blues phantoms were visiting Big Pink.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on February 15, 2008, 06:24:24 PM
I think I must be one of the only people in the world who likes the Dylan album from 1973. I think his version of Big Yellow Taxi is great.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Andy Smith on February 15, 2008, 10:21:23 PM
Dylan has so many Bootlegs around, is quite amazing at times!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: number14 on February 16, 2008, 06:45:19 PM
What do you guys think of his 1978 release Street Legal?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: JimmyMcCullochFan on February 25, 2008, 10:47:02 AM
I like his version of "If Not For You"  :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Geoff on March 16, 2008, 02:19:50 AM
Quote from: 273
What do you guys think of his 1978 release Street Legal?

I like "Senor" and "Changing Of The Guard." I think it was first record after 1975's Desire and his marriage had ended in the interim, which perhaps explains the record's mood. It's a patchy album, but more good than bad.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: JimmyMcCullochFan on March 17, 2008, 09:53:15 AM
My gf has gotten me into Dylan since she sent me all of her favorite songs by him  :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BlueMeanie on March 17, 2008, 12:17:44 PM
I just bought the new 'Dylan' box set. Very nice. My only Dylan album!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: JimmyMcCullochFan on March 18, 2008, 07:27:29 AM
EotM7FH8uQg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EotM7FH8uQg)

Live version of "Hurricane", my favorite Dylan song  :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Kevin on March 18, 2008, 04:25:18 PM
I just got "Modern Times" from the library and bunged it on my walkman (how 21st century am I.) It's ok, funny in places, but my initial thoughts are that it's dissapointing. But then again I suppose he has the same dilema (sp) as Macca - he's already changed the course of popular culture once and nothing is going to match that.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BlueMeanie on March 18, 2008, 06:19:00 PM
Quote from: 185
But then again I suppose he has the same dilema (sp) as Macca - he's already changed the course of popular culture once and nothing is going to match that.

Bloody good point. It's late, and I shall respond more tomorrow, but that's possibly a thread in the making!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on March 31, 2008, 10:45:34 PM
OMG!!!!!! I'm going to see Dylan in May! I waited in line for four hours to get tickets, but it was worth it!!! They are great tickets, too- sixth row!

Sorry for my over-use of exclamation points but I'm just soooooo excited!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Geoff on April 01, 2008, 03:13:36 AM
Quote from: 185
But then again I suppose he has the same dilema (sp) as Macca - he's already changed the course of popular culture once and nothing is going to match that.

Yeah, and he's trapped by now long preconceived notions of what a "Dylan" record is supposed to be like. Everybody thinks "Blonde On Blonde" or "Freewheelin'." He's stuck with the public image he had at the time he made his biggest impact, and the same is true of The Beatles of course: whenever newspapers over here do a story about them, it's the 1964 image, complete with "moptop" cliche that's most likely to be rolled out.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: bobbydylanlover on April 27, 2008, 04:08:55 AM
Quote from: 218
OMG!!!!!! I'm going to see Dylan in May! I waited in line for four hours to get tickets, but it was worth it!!! They are great tickets, too- sixth row!

Sorry for my over-use of exclamation points but I'm just soooooo excited!
Hey, tell me how that is (:
I've wanted to see Bob for SO long now ):
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: dabbik on May 07, 2008, 02:33:41 PM
My favorite solo-artist, I'm going to a concert with him 26. May :D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Andy Smith on May 09, 2008, 11:36:18 PM
Quote from: 1058
My favorite solo-artist, I'm going to a concert with him 26. May :D

you make it sound like you know him personally.  :P
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BlueMeanie on May 25, 2008, 08:57:52 AM
Oh dear, I think this may be the gig that Mairi went to.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Geoff on May 25, 2008, 01:29:12 PM
Quote from: 483
Oh dear, I think this may be the gig that Mairi went to.

Sorry, Mairi: that review's so badly written that the writer has made his own competence more the issue than he has the substance of what he's written. I've taken it down. I was just wondering if anybody had seen Dylan anywhere lately and what they'd thought of the performance.  :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on May 25, 2008, 02:57:01 PM
Well, I thought he was great. The guy who wrote the review obviously wasn't a big Dylan fan because he would have known that Dylan always changes up his songs when playing them in concerts. Also I was glad he didn't do the whole "Hey how ya doin, you're a great audience!" thing. He doesn't care how Halifax is doing, we know he doesn't care, so why pretend otherwise?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Geoff on May 25, 2008, 03:27:13 PM
I hadn't bothered to read the whole thread, of course, or I wouldn't have posted such a poorly written piece of journalese in the first place. The writer was parroting the usual conventional banalities about Dylan's live shows, and after reading it I wondered what non-parrots not writing semi-literate hackwork for pay made of Dylan these days. The link's here:

http://thechronicleherald.ca/Columnists/9006883.html

Glad to hear Leonard Cohen's still performing.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Oh Pineapple on July 17, 2008, 11:45:39 PM
I adore Bob a.k.a Robert.
He's Amazing.



(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg263/philipkitchen1978/bob.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on July 18, 2008, 03:17:22 AM
Great pic of him. Gah! So cute!!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Geoff on July 18, 2008, 05:01:05 AM
A couple of my favorite Dylan photos of the mid sixties. Not sure where the second one came from:

(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm317/geoffw_2008/bob-dylan.jpg)
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm317/geoffw_2008/Dylan2520Bob2520fr259Fhst259Fckt.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Sondra on July 18, 2008, 05:37:14 AM
I love his just woke up look. Which he pretty much always has. It works for him though.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Geoff on July 18, 2008, 05:49:49 AM
Quote from: 216
I love his just woke up look. Which he pretty much always has.

 ;D

I hadn't thought of it that way: great point.

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Sondra on July 18, 2008, 05:57:49 AM
I've never seen a picture of Bob where he looks like he's had a decent night's sleep.  8)

(http://newyork.diarystar.com/images/bob-dylan22.jpg)
(http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/04_dylan_lg.jpg)
(http://www.gpb.org/files/national/bobDylan_main_image.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Oh Pineapple on July 18, 2008, 06:05:45 AM

omg.
bob is amazing. (second time to say it)
i love him just as mich as The Beatles.
They should of done some songs together...
man, that would have been great.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Geoff on July 18, 2008, 06:16:36 AM
Quote from: 216
([url]http://www.gpb.org/files/national/bobDylan_main_image.jpg[/url])


Haven't seen that one before; thanks. Love the Lou Reed shades on the guy in the center right. :)

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Andy Smith on July 18, 2008, 10:22:13 PM
Quote from: 216
([url]http://www.gpb.org/files/national/bobDylan_main_image.jpg[/url])


put em' up, put em' up!  ;D

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Sondra on July 18, 2008, 11:29:23 PM
The guitar dwarfs him. He must be a tiny guy!
(http://johngushue.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/19/bob_dylan_greenwich_village.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: adamzero on July 19, 2008, 01:20:45 AM
Quote from: 1161

Haven't seen that one before; thanks. Love the Lou Reed shades on the guy in the center right. :)



I believe that's none other than Donovan Leitch.  And the blond looks like Mary (Paul is in the background, don't know where Peter is.)  Must be from Newport Folk Festival--Bob's got his "dukes" up.

IMDB says Bob is five-seven and a half.  I'd say that half is in his boots.  Otherwise that sounds about right.

IMDB says Robbie Robertson is 6'1" and Van Morrison is 5'5" (poor Van, having to stretch . . .)

Compare the picture from the Last Waltz: http://www.van-morrison.com/images/thelastwaltz.jpg

Just for scale: Neil Diamond is 5'11".

So Bob is ginormous, just not height-wise.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Sondra on July 19, 2008, 01:37:46 AM
Quote from: 9

I believe that's none other than Donovan Leitch.  And the blond looks like Mary (Paul is in the background, don't know where Peter is.)  Must be from Newport Folk Festival--Bob's got his "dukes" up.

IMDB says Bob is five-seven and a half.  I'd say that half is in his boots.  Otherwise that sounds about right.

IMDB says Robbie Robertson is 6'1" and Van Morrison is 5'5" (poor Van, having to stretch . . .)

Compare the picture from the Last Waltz: [url]http://www.van-morrison.com/images/thelastwaltz.jpg[/url]

Just for scale: Neil Diamond is 5'11".

So Bob is ginormous, just not height-wise.


Thanks for the info! Is that Bobby Neuwirth in the upper right?

My friend always calls Van Morrison a leprechaun. For obvious reasons. It always amazes me that that amazing soulful voice comes out of that little funny looking white guy.

There are some pretty small guys up on that stage, yet bigger than life. Didn't know Robbie Robertson was so tall. Must be that fresh Canadian air!
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Post by: Mairi on July 19, 2008, 01:40:21 AM
Paul Simon is 5'3. When Woody Allen cast him in Annie Hall, he said it was because he wanted to lose the girl to a guy who was shorter than him.
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Post by: Sondra on July 19, 2008, 01:48:32 AM
That's funny. I love Woody Allen.

It would be weird to meet someone like that and be taller than them.
Bob and lil' Paul. Wonder what they're singing??
(http://members.tripod.com/~wilbury7/bobjoke.jpg)



Another cool pic.
Look how thrilled Neil is chatting with his hero.
(http://rocksquad.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/bobdylan2cneilyoung2cericclapton.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on July 19, 2008, 01:58:10 AM
I think it would be weird to meet one of your musical idols and be taller than them. It just doesn't seem right, you know? Especially if they were a male and you were female.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Geoff on July 19, 2008, 02:03:02 AM
Quote from: 9

I believe that's none other than Donovan Leitch.  And the blond looks like Mary (Paul is in the background, don't know where Peter is.)  Must be from Newport Folk Festival--Bob's got his "dukes" up.


Thanks; I hadn't even thought about who it might be, but this is Donovan from Top Of The Tops:

(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm317/geoffw_2008/donovan_bbc.jpg)

... and another good mid sixties shot of Bob (Blonde On Blonde period, I'll bet), still looking sleep deprived:

(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm317/geoffw_2008/bobdylan.jpg)

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Post by: Mairi on July 19, 2008, 02:07:26 AM
Ha ha! This is funny. I never realized how often Bob looked sleep deprived in his photos. Now I'm going to think about that every time I see a picture of him. Guess he got a lot of lovin'.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Sondra on July 19, 2008, 02:07:57 AM
I LOVE that picture of Bob. Beautiful. And man does Donovan look just like his daughter. Or the other way around. But you know what I mean. Whatever became of her anyway? She was pretty popular in the eighties. Oh well.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on July 19, 2008, 02:09:28 AM
Donovan has a daughter? Who is she?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Sondra on July 19, 2008, 02:11:43 AM
Ione Skye:

(http://www.everlastingsea.com/photos/upstream/ione_skye.jpg)

The only movie I remember her from at the moment is River's Edge. Which was a brilliant movie.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Sondra on July 19, 2008, 02:13:49 AM
Oh wait, she was in Say Anything too with John Cusack. She's his radio girl. You know the scene right?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on July 19, 2008, 02:16:28 AM
oh that movie rocks! She was pretty good in it.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: adamzero on July 20, 2008, 11:23:33 PM
I'm not sure "sleep-deprived" adequately describes Dylan during the 1966 period.  Strung out (on heroin, mandrax, who knows . . . .) seems more accurate.  Some of the film clips from "No Direction Home" show the guy totally effed up.  It's a shame drugs got hold of him.  

Just think of the inspirational songs he could have written.  "How many roads must a man walk down" and stuff like that.  Something to raise us up.  Real anthems, not navel-gazing introspective paeans about his "conscious" exploding ("Visions of Johanna").  

For crying out loud, he didn't even write a song about the assassination of Martin Luther King, but he writes laments for George Jackson, Hurricane Carter and Joey Gallo (and portrays them as no less than saints).   I mean, what's wrong with this picture?  

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/80/Crazyjoegallo.jpg)

(http://www.watertown.k12.ma.us/dept/ela/images/martin-luther-king2.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Sondra on July 20, 2008, 11:42:52 PM
Quote from: 9
I'm not sure "sleep-deprived" adequately describes Dylan during the 1966 period.  Strung out (on heroin, mandrax, who knows . . . .) seems more accurate.  Some of the film clips from "No Direction Home" show the guy totally effed up.  It's a shame drugs got hold of him.  

Just think of the inspirational songs he could have written.  "How many roads must a man walk down" and stuff like that.  Something to raise us up.  Real anthems, not navel-gazing introspective paeans about his "conscious" exploding ("Visions of Johanna").  

For crying out loud, he didn't even write a song about the assassination of Martin Luther King, but he writes laments for George Jackson, Hurricane Carter and Joey Gallo (and portrays them as no less than saints).   I mean, what's wrong with this picture?  

([url]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/80/Crazyjoegallo.jpg[/url])

([url]http://www.watertown.k12.ma.us/dept/ela/images/martin-luther-king2.jpg[/url])


You share Joan Baez's and a million or so fans same frustrations. I don't think the drugs had anything to do with Bob's non-involvment in certain movements. He was very aware of what he was doing. Or not doing.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: adamzero on July 21, 2008, 02:07:20 PM
Thanks for the response.  Course I'm halfway kidding.  I love "Visions of Johanna" even if Bob uses conscious instead of consciousness.  I guess it wouldn't fit the line.  

But I do think drugs warped his sensibility and limited his range of topics (maybe he went Christian to expand his range?)

Drugs tend to make everything about "me"; and I think that's been pretty much the trajectory of his life and career.  Although classics do come through: "Jokerman" or "Blind Willie McTell."
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on July 22, 2008, 10:04:54 PM
I always thought it was his conscience that was exploding.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: adamzero on August 03, 2008, 09:20:25 PM
You're right, Mairi.  Bobdylan.com does say "conscience."  But it doesn't make sense like "conscious" or "consciousness" exploding for me.  

Is the speaker's vision of right and wrong (conscience) exploding?  I guess you could make a good argument for that since his love for the unattainable Johanna is keeping him from being honest with Louise (and her lover so entwined--maybe himself).  Or maybe being with Louise is exploding his conscience when he knows the right one for him is Johanna.  

But I like the idea of fish truck loads/conscious explodes because his longing for Johanna seems to be shattering all objective points of reference and taking him inside to the subjective world where Johanna is his Fairie Queen.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Geoff on August 17, 2008, 06:12:32 AM
Dylan
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: JimmyMcCullochFan on August 19, 2008, 01:19:12 AM
I just bought the 2 disc "No Direction Home" dvd for 9 bucks  :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Andy Smith on August 22, 2008, 10:16:57 PM
Quote from: 682
I just bought the 2 disc "No Direction Home" dvd for 9 bucks  :)

enjoy it! its a great dvd set with cool extras on it of dylan performances.

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on September 17, 2008, 02:59:24 PM
That book sounds really cool. I totally want to read it.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: JimmyMcCullochFan on September 17, 2008, 08:24:52 PM
What's everybody's favorite Dylan era? Mine would be '65-66 after he went electric.  :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Geoff on September 18, 2008, 01:09:31 PM
Quote from: 682
What's everybody's favorite Dylan era? Mine would be '65-66 after he went electric.  :)

Same here, more or less: Bringing It All Back Home through John Wesley Harding.  :)

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on September 28, 2008, 01:32:00 AM
I like early Dylan best. 61-64
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: legthi on October 13, 2008, 04:11:56 PM
Bought tell tale signs (89-06) the other day and it really is fantastic, especially 'miss the mississippi' and most of the time.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Jane on November 03, 2008, 09:17:57 PM
I`ve just seen the film on DVD called I Am Not There about Bob Dylan. The film is very strange, there`s no plot, no action, only some associasions with Bob`s songs. Very weird. I have to watch it again. One thing I am sure of is that Cate Blanchett`s acting is brilliant, all the gestures, the pose, even the voice are perfect. How does she manage it? And there are two minutes` of Beatlomania and our boys appearing on the screen. But don`t expect much, only a glimpse. Have you seen the film?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Andy Smith on November 04, 2008, 12:14:35 AM
yes, i saw the film, I Am Not There for the first time last week as i picked it up on dvd. i thought it was
quite brilliant, i love the way its made and Cate Blanchett is fantastic in it! it very weired comparing
her to Dylan in the way she looks. the bit with the fabs is wondeful & so funny! would Dylan make
a great 5th Beatle??  :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Andy Smith on April 09, 2009, 11:26:10 PM
Dylan's new album, Living Through Life, is release 27th April!! :)

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51zGAvRdr%2BL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
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Post by: legthi on April 12, 2009, 09:25:26 PM
Yep, and i'm seeing him at the 02 on April 25th and at the Roundhouse 26th both in London! Incredible!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: emmi_luvs_beatles on June 21, 2009, 04:07:02 AM
Man I LOVE Bob Dylan! My fav next to The Beatles!!! And he is from a town about an hours drive from me AND we share a birthday!!!!!!! May 24!!
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Post by: Sondra on July 31, 2009, 02:15:45 AM
Damn, I love this performance of Like a Rolling Stone!! Dylan's as high as a kite but freaking passionate as hell. And The Band sounds amazing. Robbie at the end gave me chills!!!

Bob Dylan - Like A Rolling Stone 1966 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO0gSJGJ7Fs&feature=fvw#normal)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: The Artful Dodger on September 11, 2009, 09:42:50 PM
Good to see a thread for the great man, the greatest artist of all time.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: dramster on October 15, 2009, 11:50:14 AM

I love Dylan a lot.  I've been to ten of his concerts between 1992-2007 (amazing that he makes it down here to Australia that often), and I've always been kind of awed and moved to tears just to be there in the room with him and hear him sing.  But there has never been a concert that didn't involve some people walking out angry that he didn't perform such-and-such a song, or that it was just a 'jam session'.  Seems to me that he's playing more for himself and his true fans than for the casual onlooker.

His new Christmas album has just come out (now that's a first).  For the first time in years I'm not that interested in rushing out and buying a copy straight away, but since proceeds are going to help feed hungry people I guess I will eventually. 

Another thing about Dylan - he really has opened up the world of music for me in a big way.  I have the Beatles to thank for introducing me to Dylan, and I have Dylan to thank for introducing me to vast amounts of music that I now dearly love such as traditional folk, appalacian mountain ballads, country blues etc.  The Carter Family, Leadbelly, Sleepy John Estes, Bukka White... I can't imagine going through life without hearing that stuff.

Thanks Bob!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on October 15, 2009, 02:45:23 PM
I never thought i'd see the day when Bob Dylan would release a Christmas album. I'm interested in hearing it. I think it'll make a nice juxtaposition to my copy of Joan Baez's "Noel".
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Post by: Kevin on October 15, 2009, 03:21:45 PM
I never thought i'd see the day when Bob Dylan would release a Christmas album. I'm interested in hearing it. I think it'll make a nice juxtaposition to my copy of Joan Baez's "Noel".
I heard excerpts from it on the radio. It sounds like a drunk whose wandered into a church on Xmas eve. Might be fun in a postmodern ironical aren't-we-clever-listening-to-this kind of way (of which I'm often guilty.) But I'd challenge anyone to say it's pleasant to listen to.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on October 15, 2009, 03:24:27 PM
Oh dear. I might like that if it actually was a drunk who wandered into a church... but i expect a bit more from Dylan. I don't know what to think of him nowadays. I don't think he knows what he's doing.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: nyfan(41) on October 15, 2009, 04:59:13 PM
I`ve just seen the film on DVD called I Am Not There about Bob Dylan. The film is very strange, there`s no plot, no action, only some associasions with Bob`s songs. Very weird. I have to watch it again. One thing I am sure of is that Cate Blanchett`s acting is brilliant, all the gestures, the pose, even the voice are perfect. How does she manage it? And there are two minutes` of Beatlomania and our boys appearing on the screen. But don`t expect much, only a glimpse. Have you seen the film?
yes - i liked it. alot of inside references to bob dylan's lifestory. it was hard to follow but cool and Cate was great!


What's everybody's favorite Dylan era? Mine would be '65-66 after he went electric.  :)
^^yeah, me too
I like early Dylan best. 61-64
^^yeah, me too

 ha2ha ha2ha  ha2ha
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: dramster on October 16, 2009, 01:12:38 PM

Has anyone been getting into Bob playing DJ on Theme Time Radio Hour?  For those who don't know, it's a one hour radio show where he picks a theme (eg dogs, the bible, cars) and picks an eclectic range of songs from his own record collection that illustrate the theme.  He also tells anecdotes about the (often obscure and interesting) artists on his playlist, tells jokes and is full of facts and figures about the theme in question.  It ran for a couple of years on satellite radio until recently, but you can find episodes online if you look around.

Really that's my fave thing he's done in recent years.  A completely entertaining musical education.  Highly recommended!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Kevin on October 17, 2009, 10:12:02 AM
Oh dear. I might like that if it actually was a drunk who wandered into a church... but i expect a bit more from Dylan. I don't know what to think of him nowadays. I don't think he knows what he's doing.

I can't help but admire Dylan. While all his rock star buddies have retreated to their mansions and farms to pop their heads over the parapet every few years to great fanfare he just goes on doing what he's always done. He came on the scene nearly half a century ago pretending to be some wandering minstrel travelling the rails (he wasn't - he was a nice middle class kid) and now he actually seems to have become one.
Whether he's mad, doesn't know what else to do or really is only happy on the road I don't know, but there's a beauty about him shuffling around the world, maybe playing until the day God strikes him down. He has fufilled his own myth.
Rather this than guest spots on Oprah or albums marketed by Coke.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on October 17, 2009, 03:15:26 PM
It does seem like a pretty nice existence when you put it that way. To have respect, but not celebrity.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Sondra on November 19, 2009, 03:13:26 AM
What's this about??
(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs066.snc3/13335_330530905695_11955325695_9726929_2091210_n.jpg)
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Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 19, 2009, 04:16:17 AM
What's this about??
([url]http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs066.snc3/13335_330530905695_11955325695_9726929_2091210_n.jpg[/url])


Christmas.
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Post by: Sondra on November 20, 2009, 01:56:50 AM
Obviously. I'm just wondering what possessed him to do it.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on November 20, 2009, 03:29:13 AM
It's for charity.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLZ8LPIh4Xc#)

I like the video. It reminds me of the parties I have with friends.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 20, 2009, 04:13:48 AM
It'll be a Bob Dylan Christmas!
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Post by: emmi_luvs_beatles on November 28, 2009, 04:05:45 AM
It'll be a Bob Dylan Christmas!

 ;yes

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Nicky Sedgwick on May 23, 2010, 08:37:29 AM
Well i know i kinda dig this topic up, but does anyone know a great forum about bob dylan ?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: emmi_luvs_beatles on May 23, 2010, 11:54:16 AM
Well i know i kinda dig this topic up, but does anyone know a great forum about bob dylan ?



http://expectingrain.com/discussions/ (http://expectingrain.com/discussions/)
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Post by: Nicky Sedgwick on May 23, 2010, 12:02:16 PM
Thanks !!
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Post by: Mairi on July 15, 2010, 07:43:14 PM
Oh man I have been playing Blood on the Tracks nonstop for the past few days, It's so classic for when you're p*ssed off, especially "Idiot Wind"- so angry and snarling.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: An Apple Beatle on July 17, 2010, 09:15:11 AM
Oh man I have been playing Blood on the Tracks nonstop for the past few days, It's so classic for when you're p*ssed off, especially "Idiot Wind"- so angry and snarling.
  'Yoddle idiot wind....Blowin thru the buttons' One of my rare fave's of this particular Bob.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: pc31 on July 22, 2010, 03:13:12 PM
i said it once and i'll say it again...bob is a scab on lifes ass....
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Ovi on November 28, 2010, 04:37:15 PM
I have listened to a few Dylan tracks and I think it's impossible not to like him. From what I have listened, I think that 'Tagned Up In Blue' is a lyrically masterpiece. The whole story is incredibile and the way he relates it just amazes me every time I hear it. My favourite strophes are the 5th (the one about the poems) and the last one.
Also, I read that in his live shows he usually changes the song and sings it from a third-person perspective and I was wondering why. Does anybody know?
 2ch
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Sonic Blue on December 03, 2010, 08:48:17 AM
Though there's a lot to dislike about him (sloppy performances, disdain for the public, uncredited use of traditional melodies) I rate Dylan as well (Though I prefer his pre- "Motorcycle accident" output) as to why he changes his songs, it's many years now since Dylan could have been called a folk singer in any meaningful sense of the term but there are at least 2 things he retains from folk tradition. One is the great emphasis he places on live performance, the other is the approach he takes to recording. Although in rock the released, studio-recorded version of any given song tends to be considered the "definitive" one, in folk a recording of a song is merely a record of what it sounded like that day. This still seems to be Dylan's approach and I respect and admire that.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: JimmyMcCullochFan on January 07, 2011, 12:01:17 PM
I love Elliot Smith's cover of Ballad of a Thin Man.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on August 23, 2011, 01:02:21 AM
Bob Dylan - I Want You (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iBLMZjltu4#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on August 23, 2011, 02:40:26 AM
Well, it's kind of a catchy tune and the harmonica's real nice. ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: nimrod on August 23, 2011, 09:53:09 PM
Though there's a lot to dislike about him (sloppy performances, disdain for the public, uncredited use of traditional melodies)

I went to see him in 98 when he toured with Van Morrison, they did half the show each and Dylan never said a word except thanks at the end, nothing at all, total disdain  ha2ha
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on August 23, 2011, 10:41:18 PM
Though there's a lot to dislike about him (sloppy performances, disdain for the public, uncredited use of traditional melodies)

I went to see him in 98 when he toured with Van Morrison, they did half the show each and Dylan never said a word except thanks at the end, nothing at all, total disdain  ha2ha


(http://i54.tinypic.com/dfuhbd.jpg)

"All I can do is be me, whoever that is."
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: nimrod on August 23, 2011, 10:49:46 PM
Ive never really liked the bloke Barry.., he always seems a bit 'up' himself

and Ive always wondered why he wasnt at concert for George
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: starofwonder on September 23, 2011, 09:25:07 PM
In one  TV  interview George  rated Bob as numero uno  song writer and genius....
above John  and Paul  even


I  think Id  put John at number  1  myself !
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on September 23, 2011, 09:30:12 PM
Hi music fanatics! I've always loved the HIGHWAY 61 REVISITED album, "Like A Rolling Stone" is one of Rock's all-time greatest anthems ever! Take care.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 23, 2011, 09:51:11 PM
Hi music fanatics! I've always loved the HIGHWAY 61 REVISITED album, "Like A Rolling Stone" is one of Rock's all-time greatest anthems ever! Take care.


Bob Dylan - Like a Rolling Stone (Live 1966) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS-7IoUwVsI#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 23, 2011, 10:05:22 PM
Like A Rolling Stone

The Rolling Stones "Like a Rolling Stone" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT9Qy4gy4Ro#ws)
The Rolling Stones   1998
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on September 23, 2011, 10:07:37 PM
Like A Rolling Stone

The Rolling Stones "Like a Rolling Stone" ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT9Qy4gy4Ro#ws[/url])
The Rolling Stones   1998


Now you're talking Hello Goodbye! C-O-O-L!!!!!!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 23, 2011, 10:26:49 PM
So was their music video...

The Rolling Stones - Like A Rolling Stone (Music Video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziRR5h3b4YU#noexternalembed)


0:05 is reminiscent of the cover of Bringing It All Back Home...


(http://emilysalbumsatoz.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/bringing-it.jpg)

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on September 24, 2011, 06:49:21 PM
So was their music video...

The Rolling Stones - Like A Rolling Stone (Music Video) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziRR5h3b4YU#noexternalembed[/url])


0:05 is reminiscent of the cover of Bringing It All Back Home...


([url]http://emilysalbumsatoz.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/bringing-it.jpg[/url])


Hendrix did a great version of "Like A Rolling Stone," I couldn't post the video on the thread. Take care.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 27, 2011, 10:12:49 PM
Hendrix did a great version of "Like A Rolling Stone," I couldn't post the video on the thread. Take care.


Monterey Pop   1967

Like a Rolling Stone : Jimi Hendrix in Montery Pop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J2WdcW0ZY4#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 27, 2011, 10:16:42 PM
So, The Beatles are credited for putting lyrics on an album cover for the first time.  But Bob Dylan was the first to put lyrics in a music video...

Subterranean Homesick Blues (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_ujAXxNxU0#)
Subterranean Homesick Blues   1965



Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on September 27, 2011, 10:34:06 PM
So, The Beatles are credited for putting lyrics on an album cover for the first time.  But Bob Dylan was the first to put lyrics in a music video...

Subterranean Homesick Blues ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_ujAXxNxU0#[/url])
Subterranean Homesick Blues   1965


BOB DYLAN was also the first to introduce THE BEATLES to Marijuana!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 02, 2011, 10:21:34 PM
Subterranean Homesick Blues (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J4O2-nsFBA#)


sizzla - subterranean homesick blues (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjh0JuyovP4#)


Sizzla, mon!!!


(Note the scarf    ;))
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 02, 2011, 10:25:10 PM
Subterranean Homesick Blues ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J4O2-nsFBA#[/url])


sizzla - subterranean homesick blues ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjh0JuyovP4#[/url])


Sizzla, mon!!!


(Note the scarf    ;))


Sizzla mon!!! That should be the new slogan for The Sizzler Restaurant.  ha2ha Here's one from DYLAN!

Bob Dylan-Knockin' on Heaven's Door (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_swaxOidGU#ws)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 02, 2011, 10:35:20 PM
Here's the GUNS N' ROSES version!

Guns N' Roses - Knocking On Heaven's Door Live In Tokyo 1992 HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1ZRBPA8SK0#ws)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 02, 2011, 10:38:28 PM
Eric Clapton...

Eric Clapton "Knocking On Heaven's Door" 1977 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR4otgDq5HQ#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 02, 2011, 10:40:19 PM
Eric Clapton...

Eric Clapton "Knocking On Heaven's Door" 1977 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR4otgDq5HQ#[/url])


Right on Hello Goodbye, I love the ERIC CLAPTON version! Now we're Rockin'!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 02, 2011, 10:42:51 PM
Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid


(http://criticalmassesmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/patandbilly.jpg)


(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-v75ZqHZlQjc/TbyL_JR4F4I/AAAAAAAABGI/nAn0ItTo9uI/s640/patgarrett_dylan.jpg)

Knockin on Heaven's Door - Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFxwq33rVAs#noexternalembed)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 02, 2011, 10:44:54 PM
Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid 

Knockin on Heaven's Door - Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFxwq33rVAs#noexternalembed[/url])


God I love this song!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 02, 2011, 11:02:49 PM
(http://85.214.56.41/movieman/Images/Film/00012969_de-65165-photo1.JPG)



Billy 1 - Bob Dylan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8_M8PjoAxs#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 02, 2011, 11:04:47 PM
Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid


([url]http://criticalmassesmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/patandbilly.jpg[/url])


([url]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-v75ZqHZlQjc/TbyL_JR4F4I/AAAAAAAABGI/nAn0ItTo9uI/s640/patgarrett_dylan.jpg[/url])

Knockin on Heaven's Door - Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFxwq33rVAs#noexternalembed[/url])


WOW, this movie had a strong acting cast! I've always loved this movie!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 02, 2011, 11:12:47 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6mHKP4sCS3s/TiEJMjvNbWI/AAAAAAAAQUE/UtQ5cXTA5Zw/s1600/Pat+Garrett+%2526+Billy+The+Kid+-+%252816%2529.jpg)


Garrett departure - Pat Garrett & Billy the kid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHG1ByYT-zg#noexternalembed)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 02, 2011, 11:21:21 PM
WOW, this movie had a strong acting cast! I've always loved this movie!


It had a strong director too...


(http://i40.tinypic.com/95peut.jpg)


Sam Peckinpah


Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 02, 2011, 11:26:27 PM
Pat Garret and Billy The Kid ~ Favorite Lines and Scenes ~ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqVUjuNomVw#ws)


(http://www.cinemaretro.com/uploads/peckpat5.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 02, 2011, 11:40:40 PM
(http://tvtalkin.com/bobdylan/images/large/bob13-01.jpg)

...and a soundtrack by Bob Dylan.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 03, 2011, 03:16:41 AM
It had a strong director too...


([url]http://i40.tinypic.com/95peut.jpg[/url])


Sam Peckinpah


No doubt! I figured that if the movie is great, its because of a strong Director other than the great acting.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 03, 2011, 03:18:38 AM
([url]http://tvtalkin.com/bobdylan/images/large/bob13-01.jpg[/url])

...and a soundtrack by Bob Dylan.


In my opinion, the movie soundtrack plays a very big part in the movie because the music sets the mood of the scene. 
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on December 03, 2011, 03:46:29 AM
[Subterranean Homesick Blues[/url]

One of the things on my Bucket List is learning all the words to this great song. Hopefully I'll live a long, long time.  ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 03, 2011, 03:47:44 AM
One of the things on my Bucket List is learning all the words to this great song. Hopefully I'll live a long, long time.  ;)

You'll definitely out live me!  ha2ha
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 03, 2011, 05:31:48 AM
When I learned how to play guitar, I used to play...


Bob Dylan - It's All Over Now, Baby Blue (1965) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd5UkWHnQhA#)


and break into...

Joan Baez Love Is Just A Four letter Word (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqVGjS6o2R8#)


...and back to It's All Over Now, Baby Blue again.

I had fun with those two songs.  I wish there was a recording of Bob Dylan singing Love Is Just A Four Letter Word.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 03, 2011, 05:33:27 AM
It might have sounded something like this...


Love is Just a Four Letter Word-Bob Dylan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EreScszbWk#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 03, 2011, 05:47:20 AM
Joan Baez, it`s all over now baby blue (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RrdtrT6ukM#)

Joan Baez
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 03, 2011, 12:43:02 PM
When I learned how to play guitar, I used to play...


Bob Dylan - It's All Over Now, Baby Blue (1965) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd5UkWHnQhA#[/url])


and break into...

Joan Baez Love Is Just A Four letter Word ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqVGjS6o2R8#[/url])


...and back to It's All Over Now, Baby Blue again.

I had fun with those two songs.  I wish there was a recording of Bob Dylan singing Love Is Just A Four Letter Word.


Those are two great songs Hello Goodbye, it brings back memories of when I was a flower child back in the 1960's.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 03, 2011, 10:37:32 PM
One of the things on my Bucket List is learning all the words to this great song. Hopefully I'll live a long, long time.  ;)


It was the very first rap song ever!!!

Should be easy for you to learn.  He showed cue cards...

promo for KPFA dont look back (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC5nyKw4xrA#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 03, 2011, 10:46:20 PM
The video was shot in an alley by the Savoy Hotel in London...


(http://i44.tinypic.com/2yznc49.jpg)



(http://i39.tinypic.com/dzebf4.jpg)



(http://i43.tinypic.com/5yrl2e.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 03, 2011, 10:52:28 PM
There were two alternate videos which were filmed on the roof of the hotel and in a nearby park...


04-Bob Dylan-Subterranean Homesick Blues (http://vimeo.com/31272175)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 03, 2011, 11:00:23 PM
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2nb4thl.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 03, 2011, 11:08:17 PM
One of my favorite Dylan lines is in this song right here...


Bob Dylan - Absolutely Sweet Marie - Blonde on Blonde - 11 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUb3Sm6PTYI#)


Well, anybody can be just like me, obviously
But then, not again, not too many can be like you, fortunately.





Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 03, 2011, 11:14:27 PM
It was the very first rap song ever!!!

Should be easy for you to learn.  He showed cue cards...

promo for KPFA dont look back ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC5nyKw4xrA#[/url])


Thinking about it now Hello Goodbye, it really is the very first Rap song ever!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 03, 2011, 11:25:59 PM
Thinking about it now Hello Goodbye, it really is the very first Rap song ever!


That it was, BF, for sure!

This was my favorite Bob Dylan phase...when he went electric.


Bob Dylan  "Play it f**king loud!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm1pLiyrGyw#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 03, 2011, 11:27:38 PM
That it was, BF, for sure!

This was my favorite Bob Dylan phase...when he went electric.


Bob Dylan Plays "F**king Loud"! ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm1pLiyrGyw#[/url])


I read the story of when DYLAN went electric for the first time at a Folk music festival, I read that people booed him off the stage. That was also one of the all-time greatest moments in Rock history since DYLAN changed Folk music forever! Thanks to DYLAN, now there was some electricity, as in, electric guitars in Folk music. 
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 03, 2011, 11:35:37 PM
I read the story of when DYLAN went electric for the first time at a Folk music festival, I read that people booed him off the stage. That was also one of the all-time greatest moments in Rock history since DYLAN changed Folk music forever! Thanks to DYLAN, now there was some electricity, as in, electric guitars in Folk music. 


Too bad the whole performance was pulled from YouTube.  But here's part of it.

Maggie's Farm

Bob Dylan - 'Maggie's Farm' Live At Newport Folk Festival 1965 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OINa46jdKpY#)

1965 Newport Folk Festival
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 03, 2011, 11:46:25 PM
Too bad the whole performance was pulled from YouTube.  But here's part of it.

Maggie's Farm

Bob Dylan - 'Maggie's Farm' Live At Newport Folk Festival 1965 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OINa46jdKpY#[/url])

1965 Newport Folk Festival


That wasn't much footage either, however, I think that DYLAN'S performance at the Newport Folk Festival in 1965 was brilliant!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 04, 2011, 12:19:35 AM
The folk crowd wasn't ready for that yet.  Here he is at the 1964 Newport Folk Festival...

Mr Tambourine Man - Bob Dylan (LIVE@Newport Folk Festival - 1964) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtNVtd_kFKU#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 04, 2011, 12:23:37 AM
The folk crowd wasn't ready for that yet.  Here he is at the 1964 Newport Folk Festival...

Mr Tambourine Man - Bob Dylan (LIVE@Newport Folk Festival - 1964) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtNVtd_kFKU#[/url])


It doesn't look like the Folk crowd was ready at the 1965 Newport Folk Festival either. Maybe DYLAN should have thrown some joints out in the audience, it would have made it easier.  ha2ha
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 04, 2011, 12:24:33 AM
Yes, there was a lot of booing at the 1965 Newport Folk Festival...


Bob Dylan - Like A Rolling Stone Live 1965 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOoajmbGkoc#ws)

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 04, 2011, 12:28:29 AM
I guess Bob Dylan got tired of imitating Woody Guthrie...


(http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postrock/woodyguthrie.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-V2DPD3Row9c/Tdu_pwy3iFI/AAAAAAAAADM/FT7Ca_huZ64/s1600/bob_dylan.jpg)


 ;)

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 04, 2011, 12:32:16 AM
Yes, there was a lot of booing at the 1965 Newport Folk Festival...


Bob Dylan - Like A Rolling Stone Live 1965 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOoajmbGkoc#ws[/url])


I can't believe that DYLAN was booed like that, that was rude on the part of the fans. That was one of DYLAN'S best live performances of "Like A Rolling Stone" ever!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 04, 2011, 12:36:13 AM
I guess Bob Dylan got tired of imitating Woody Guthrie...


([url]http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postrock/woodyguthrie.jpg[/url])

([url]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-V2DPD3Row9c/Tdu_pwy3iFI/AAAAAAAAADM/FT7Ca_huZ64/s1600/bob_dylan.jpg[/url])


 ;)


The times were changing, it was time for Folk music to go electric! I'm just thankful that DYLAN had the ba*ls to do what he did, that is one of the many reasons why he left his mark in music history. 
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 04, 2011, 12:36:32 AM
It went on for about a year.  By the time he released Blonde On Blonde, things settled down.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 04, 2011, 12:39:10 AM
It went on for about a year.  By the time he released Blonde On Blonde, things settled down.

In my opinion, and I could be wrong, I really believe that KEITH RICHARDS idolized and emulated BOB DYLAN! What do you think Hello Goodbye?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 04, 2011, 12:50:55 AM
I know Keith Richards liked the blues during that period.  I think he would have idolized Bob Dylan for the spirit he showed.

As for me, it was It's All Over Now, Baby Blue on Bringing It All Back Home which made me run out and get a guitar.  Rubber Soul added to the impetus.


Bob Dylan - It's All Over Now, Baby Blue (1965) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd5UkWHnQhA#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 04, 2011, 12:52:43 AM
I know Keith Richards liked the blues during that period.  I think he would have idolized Bob Dylan for the spirit he showed.

As for me, it was It's All Over Now, Baby Blue on Bringing It All Back Home which made made me run out and get a guitar.  Rubber Soul added to the impetus.


Bob Dylan - It's All Over Now, Baby Blue (1965) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd5UkWHnQhA#[/url])


Sometimes I think that Keith tried to sing like DYLAN. I know that DYLAN and Keith shared a love and passion for the Rock n' Roll lifestyle!  ha2ha

You had good reasons in going out and buying a guitar, that was all great music!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 04, 2011, 12:57:01 AM
And I loved traditional folk music in the early 60s.  I still do.  But it was great to see it go electric.  He paved the way for The Lovin' Spoonful, Buffalo Springfield, CSN&Y and others.

What an exciting time that was!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 04, 2011, 12:59:46 AM
And I loved traditional folk music in the early 60s.  I still do.  But it was great to see it go electric.  He paved the way for The Lovin' Spoonful, Buffalo Springfield, CSN&Y and others.

What an exciting time that was!

What about THE BYRDS and THE BEATLES? When you think about it, DYLAN really influenced a lot of bands in the music industry. It was a very exciting time indeed!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 04, 2011, 01:02:54 AM
Hell, I even like his C&W phase!


Bob Dylan - Nashville Skyline Rag [Instrumental] (1969) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKI34FBWPFc#)

It influenced Nashville pickers too!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 04, 2011, 01:04:56 AM
Johnny Cash and Bob Dylan Girl from the north country live (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzhKhTP4b_U#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 04, 2011, 01:07:26 AM
Hell, I even like his C&W phase!


Bob Dylan - Nashville Skyline Rag [Instrumental] (1969) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKI34FBWPFc#[/url])

It influenced Nashville pickers too!


DYLAN influenced a lot of people! What do you think of DYLAN'S son JAKOB DYLAN? 
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 04, 2011, 01:08:07 AM
Johnny Cash and Bob Dylan Girl from the north country live ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzhKhTP4b_U#[/url])


Now that's a GREAT combination!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 04, 2011, 01:10:54 AM
Here's one from JAKOB DYLAN and his band, THE WALLFLOWERS!

The Wallflowers - One Headlight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzyfcys1aLM#)

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 04, 2011, 02:30:22 AM
I can't believe that DYLAN was booed like that, that was rude on the part of the fans. That was one of DYLAN'S best live performances of "Like A Rolling Stone" ever!


He flips off the jerk who yelled "Judas!" at 0:45   Sweet!


Bob Dylan  "Play it F**king Loud!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm1pLiyrGyw#)

Here's the full version...

Like A Rolling Stone  With No Direction Home (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oFYqbmSWlg#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 04, 2011, 02:57:50 AM
He flips off the jerk who yelled "Judas!" at 0:45   Sweet!


Bob Dylan  "Play it F**king Loud!" ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm1pLiyrGyw#[/url])

Here's the full version...

Like A Rolling Stone  With No Direction Home ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oFYqbmSWlg#[/url])


Good for DYLAN on that one, I'm glad that he flipped off the fan that called him Judas! I bet that the fan regrets calling DYLAN Judas years later.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on December 04, 2011, 04:05:45 AM

Quote from: hello goodbye
Should be easy for you to learn.  He showed cue cards...

But I'm still too distracted by Ginsberg!  ;)



Quote
Mr Tambourine Man - Bob Dylan (LIVE@Newport Folk Festival - 1964)

I grew up with The Byrds version, which is special to me, but then I heard this. It blew me away. These have to be some of his most lyrical lyrics.

Quote
Johnny Cash and Bob Dylan Girl from the north country live

And this just took my breath away! Whew! This has to be the most complicated reply I've ever posted.  ;D What a great thread.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 04, 2011, 04:10:25 AM
But I'm still too distracted by Ginsberg!  ;)



I grew up with The Byrds version, which is special to me, but then I heard this. It blew me away. These have to be some of his most lyrical lyrics.

And this just took my breath away! Whew! This has to be the most complicated reply I've ever posted.  ;D What a great thread.

Whew! I can tell that this reply was the most complicated reply that you have ever posted! 
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 05, 2011, 02:17:54 AM
Good for DYLAN on that one, I'm glad that he flipped off the fan that called him Judas! I bet that the fan regrets calling DYLAN Judas years later.


He also answered him with the title of one of his songs at 0:25


I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met)

I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnOAIgEddWw#)

1964
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 05, 2011, 02:34:15 AM
Most often I feel that my favorite Bob Dylan song is...

Just Like A Woman

Just like a woman ,Bob Dylan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5yQ8JJ8R9E#)
1966
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on December 05, 2011, 02:49:24 AM
So, all you Bob Dylan experts...what's the best Dylan album to start with? I know the Dylan stuff that anyone who likes 60's music knows but I'd like to learn more.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 05, 2011, 03:38:43 AM
So, all you Bob Dylan experts...what's the best Dylan album to start with? I know the Dylan stuff that anyone who likes 60's music knows but I'd like to learn more.

Thats simple my dear! In my opinion, the best DYLAN album ever is HIGHWAY 61 REVISITED. Take care.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on December 05, 2011, 04:04:19 AM
Thats simple my dear! In my opinion, the best DYLAN album ever is HIGHWAY 61 REVISITED. Take care.

Okay. I have found the whole album on YouTube and will render my verdict soon.  :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 05, 2011, 04:07:11 AM
Okay. I have found the whole album on YouTube and will render my verdict soon.  :)

Take your time, I can't wait to hear your verdict.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on December 05, 2011, 04:37:12 AM
Take your time, I can't wait to hear your verdict.

Well, the playlist was messed up. Half way through it started playing "Rubber Soul". I thought wow, Dylan lifted the intro for "Drive My Car" from The Beatles. I'll have to listen later.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 05, 2011, 04:39:41 AM
Well, the playlist was messed up. Half way through it started playing "Rubber Soul". I thought wow, Dylan lifted the intro for "Drive My Car" from The Beatles. I'll have to listen later.

I can't wait to hear your analysis on HIGHWAY 61 REVISITED!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on December 05, 2011, 04:51:28 AM
I can't wait to hear your analysis on HIGHWAY 61 REVISITED!

Well, I just ordered it and Blonde on Blonde from one of the libraries in our system. I should have them tomorrow. YouTube has been annoying me a bit since they changed.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 05, 2011, 04:52:42 AM
Well, I just ordered it and Blonde on Blonde from one of the libraries in our system. I should have them tomorrow. YouTube has been annoying me a bit since they changed.

I feel confident that you will love both of them.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 05, 2011, 07:19:34 PM
There are many covers of Just Like A Woman.  This one by Richie Havens is special...

Richie Havens - Just Like a Woman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9pgx3zSrDQ#ws)

It's on his 1967 Mixed Bag album.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 05, 2011, 09:49:38 PM
There are many covers of Just Like A Woman.  This one by Richie Havens is special...

Richie Havens - Just Like a Woman ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9pgx3zSrDQ#ws[/url])

It's on his 1967 Mixed Bag album.


Great version Hello Goodbye!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on December 06, 2011, 04:33:35 AM
There are many covers of Just Like A Woman.  This one by Richie Havens is special...

That is nice. I've always liked Richie Havens.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 06, 2011, 04:34:55 AM
That is nice. I've always liked Richie Havens.

I LOVE RICHIE HAVENS' performance at WOODSTOCK!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 06, 2011, 05:19:41 AM
^

He kicked off the gig.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on December 06, 2011, 06:08:20 AM
I really like this one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z45tdW5DqKY
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 06, 2011, 06:14:36 AM
I really like this one...

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z45tdW5DqKY[/url]



The Wonder Who? recorded it too...


(http://images.45cat.com/the-wonder-who-dont-think-twice-its-alright-philips.jpg)


The Wonder Who? - Don't Think Twice, It's Alright (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxBC8SRjFKg#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on December 06, 2011, 06:27:42 AM

The Wonder Who? recorded it too...

I think everyone recorded this song!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 06, 2011, 06:37:48 AM
What's interesting here was that in early 1966, the same group under three different names had hits on the Billboard 100...

Don't Think Twice, It's All Right...The Wonder Who?
Working My Way Back To You Babe...The Four Seasons
(You're Gonna) Hurt Yourself...a Frankie Valli "solo single" recorded by The Four Seasons
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 06, 2011, 09:37:14 PM
What's interesting here was that in early 1966, the same group under three different names had hits on the Billboard 100...

Don't Think Twice, It's All Right...The Wonder Who?
Working My Way Back To You Babe...The Four Seasons
(You're Gonna) Hurt Yourself...a Frankie Valli "solo single" recorded by The Four Seasons

Thats very interesting Hello Goodbye!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 06, 2011, 09:59:07 PM
Thats very interesting Hello Goodbye!


Francis Stephen Castelluccio was far more enigmatic than Robert Zimmerman in 1966


(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mocVLwGURK8/TQX_vK3J5uI/AAAAAAAABIY/dDRZ2e9ghTQ/s1600/Frankie-Valli_l2.jpg)



 ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 06, 2011, 10:36:01 PM
(http://www.sweetslyrics.com/images/img_gal/4294_fns.jpg)

Lester Flatt and Earl Scruggs



Flatt and Scruggs - Don't Think Twice, It's All Right.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bSLh8iDIk0#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 06, 2011, 10:43:18 PM
Chet Atkins - 'Don't Think Twice It's Alright" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtgFRqz_gXE#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 06, 2011, 10:49:08 PM
Don't Think, Twice It's All Right Peter, Paul Mary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGpkS7LhKl8#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 07, 2011, 02:37:06 AM
In 1966 we played Blonde On Blonde to death, it was a such a great album!

Bob Dylan - Visions of Johanna (vinyl rip) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNN-AUF38Aw#ws)

...and these visions of Johanna are now all that remain.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 07, 2011, 02:47:58 AM
Visions Of Johanna

Bob Dylan - Visions Of Johanna Live 1966 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5MKThhfnHA#)
The Royal Albert Hall   17 May 1966


Oh, how can I explain?
It’s so hard to get on
And these visions of Johanna, they kept me up past the dawn.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 07, 2011, 03:44:10 AM
It's All Over Now Baby Blue

Bob Dylan - Its All Over Now Baby Blue Live 1966 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEm5EWL7seY#)
The Royal Albert Hall   17 May 1966


Leave your stepping stones behind, there's something that calls for you
Forget the dead you’ve left, they will not follow you
The vagabond who’s rapping at your door
Is standing in the clothes that you once wore
Strike another match, go start anew
And it’s all over now, Baby Blue
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 07, 2011, 03:45:50 AM
It's All Over Now Baby Blue

It's All Over Now, Baby Blue - Bob Dylan (LIVE@Newport Folk Festival 1964) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xPYH6cytWc#)
Newport Folk Festival 1964


All your seasick sailors, they are rowing home
All your reindeer armies, are all going home
The lover who just walked out your door
Has taken all his blankets from the floor
The carpet, too, is moving under you
And it’s all over now, Baby Blue

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on December 07, 2011, 06:45:50 AM
Chet Atkins - 'Don't Think Twice It's Alright"


Chet was funny! Very deadpan. And cool too.

This song was how I finally figured out that Johnny Cash was cool.
Johnny Cash - Don't Think Twice, It's Alright (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpgDRRwQHZE#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on December 07, 2011, 03:56:57 PM

Cher - All I Really Want To Do (Shindig! 1965) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPjPnUcvbzs#)

Honestly I think some of my favourite Bob Dylan covers (besides those by Baez, of course!) are the ones that Cher did on her first two albums. According to her memoir Dylan said he quite liked them as well, so that's pretty cool. Sonny and Cher were pretty hip and cutting-edge in the 1960s, I think a lot of people tend to forget that. But they were some of the first hippies.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/Lcum1L92Wn8vpx0zjyqFxr7go1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 07, 2011, 09:30:21 PM
Francis Stephen Castelluccio was far more enigmatic than Robert Zimmerman in 1966


([url]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mocVLwGURK8/TQX_vK3J5uI/AAAAAAAABIY/dDRZ2e9ghTQ/s1600/Frankie-Valli_l2.jpg[/url])



 ;D


He had a great Falsetto voice but not as great as Brian Wilson.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 08, 2011, 02:21:09 AM
Cher - All I Really Want To Do (Shindig! 1965) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPjPnUcvbzs#[/url])

Honestly I think some of my favourite Bob Dylan covers (besides those by Baez, of course!) are the ones that Cher did on her first two albums. According to her memoir Dylan said he quite liked them as well, so that's pretty cool. Sonny and Cher were pretty hip and cutting-edge in the 1960s, I think a lot of people tend to forget that. But they were some of the first hippies.

([url]http://25.media.tumblr.com/Lcum1L92Wn8vpx0zjyqFxr7go1_400.jpg[/url])



Wow!  I love that picture, Mairi.  Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 08, 2011, 02:56:53 AM
Here's one from the late great JIMI HENDRIX!

Jimi Hendrix- All Along the Watchtower (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WbKBKima4Q#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 08, 2011, 05:18:21 PM
Wow!  I love that picture, Mairi.  Thanks!!!


I found another one taken that day...


(http://i39.tinypic.com/2itrhgk.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 08, 2011, 07:25:33 PM
Cher - All I Really Want To Do (Shindig! 1965) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPjPnUcvbzs#[/url])

Honestly I think some of my favourite Bob Dylan covers (besides those by Baez, of course!) are the ones that Cher did on her first two albums. According to her memoir Dylan said he quite liked them as well, so that's pretty cool. Sonny and Cher were pretty hip and cutting-edge in the 1960s, I think a lot of people tend to forget that. But they were some of the first hippies.

([url]http://25.media.tumblr.com/Lcum1L92Wn8vpx0zjyqFxr7go1_400.jpg[/url])



The Byrds covered several Bob Dylan songs including Mr. Tamborine Man, All I Really Want to Do and You Ain't Goin' Nowhere.  Here's what Roger McGuinn said about Bob Dylan's feelings on the matter in an interview with Rick Landers (http://guitarinternational.com/2010/10/21/roger-mcguinn-talks-the-byrds-martin-guitars-and-home-recording/ (http://guitarinternational.com/2010/10/21/roger-mcguinn-talks-the-byrds-martin-guitars-and-home-recording/)):

Rick: Did Bob Dylan ever say anything about your renditions of his music?

Roger McGuinn: Yeah, in fact he was at our rehearsal hall when we were working up the song “Mr. Tambourine Man.” Not only that song, but we did quite a few of his other songs.

I remember playing, I think it was “All I Really Want to Do” and he asked, “What was that?” I told him it was one of his songs. And he said, “Ah ha!” He didn’t recognize it. Bobby Neuwirth was there and said, “You can dance to it, that’s pretty cool!”

And they were very supportive of what we were doing with Bob’s music. So, we recorded “Mr. Tamborine Man,” and Albert Grossman tried to stop it. Bob was behind it, but his manager wasn’t. But, it had already gained enough momentum that Columbia couldn’t stop it.



Bob Dylan wrote You Ain't Goin' Nowhere in 1967.  His original lyric had the line "Pick up your money and pack up your tent."  When The Byrds covered the song, their lyric was "Pack up your money and pick up your tent."

In 1971, Bob Dylan released You Ain't Goin' Nowhere on his Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits Vol. II album.  In mock annoyance, Bob Dylan sang "Pack up your money, pull up your tent McGuinn / You ain't goin' nowhere."

In 1989, Roger McGuinn replied "Pack up your money, pick up your tent Dylan" on a new recording of the song included on the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band's Will the Circle Be Unbroken: Volume Two album.


THE BYRDS - You Ain't Going Nowhere (1968) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q21BF38W3Gs#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 08, 2011, 07:37:31 PM
Joan Baez was faithful to Bob Dylan's original lyric...


(http://i39.tinypic.com/ipch9s.jpg)


JOAN BAEZ ~ You Ain`t Goin` Nowhere ~.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geR19YWu2sk#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mairi on December 08, 2011, 09:16:00 PM
I remember her version well. She changes the gender in some of the lyrics, though.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 08, 2011, 09:26:27 PM
Great pictures guys, this thread rules!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 08, 2011, 11:16:11 PM
Pack up you money, pick up your tent Dylan...

17. You Ain't Going Nowhere (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AunlWuGXWRU#)

You Ain't Goin' Nowhere   The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band  Will The Circle Be Unbroken: Volume Two   1989
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 08, 2011, 11:35:37 PM
If Not For You

Bob Dylan - If Not For You (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfaRz4Qg17o#)

George Harrison - If Not For You - Acoustic Version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8P65y8iuNc#)

George Harrison And Bob Dylan If Not For You Rehearsal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tctzUNMp5po#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 09, 2011, 02:23:27 AM
Great pictures guys, this thread rules!


Joan Baez and Bob Dylan were a very photogenic pair.

It was nice to hear them sing together...

Bob Dylan and Joan Baez 1963 March on Washington (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFWg_JlN0Mw#)
When The Ship Comes In   March on Washington  August 28, 1963

Bob Dylan also sang Only A Pawn In Their Game which was very à propos.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on December 09, 2011, 02:48:14 AM
Bob Dylan - If Not For You

I've heard other artists' versions of this but not the original. It's different than I expected but I like it.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 09, 2011, 03:05:53 AM
Here's one of the very first BOB DYLAN/GEORGE HARRISON compositions!

George Harrison I'd You Have Anytime Subtitulado HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPrHaB8KCIk#ws)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 09, 2011, 03:07:59 AM
I've heard other artists' versions of this but not the original. It's different than I expected but I like it.


If Not For You was on his New Morning album...

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/15/New_Morning.jpg)



George Harrison's version followed a month later on All Things Must Pass (November, 1970)...

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8e/All_Things_Must_Pass.jpg)



The following year we got to see Olivia Newton-John perform it...

Olivia Newton-John - If Not For You (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX1hPTdZRho#)


Yup!    :)



Edit:  The original video I posted was removed by the user so I posted this one.

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 09, 2011, 03:14:36 AM
If Not For You was on his New Morning album...

([url]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/15/New_Morning.jpg[/url])



George Harrison's version followed a month later on All Things Must Pass (November, 1970)...

([url]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8e/All_Things_Must_Pass.jpg[/url])



The following year we got to see Olivia Newton-John perform it...

Olivia Newton-John: rare "If not for you" performance (France 1971) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkgn1DtrUpg#[/url])


Yup!    :)


Oh sh*t Hello Goodbye, I was in love with OLIVIA NEWTON-JOHN too!  ha2ha
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 09, 2011, 03:16:36 AM
Somehow, some way, I knew this.    ;D


But I saw her first!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 09, 2011, 03:17:45 AM
Somehow, some way, I knew this.    ;D

Somehow, I knew you would too!  ha2ha
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on December 09, 2011, 03:26:54 AM


The following year we got to see Olivia Newton-John perform it...


Yup!    :)

That was how I first heard it. Then came Rod Stewart and finally George.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 09, 2011, 03:29:21 AM
But I saw her first!

That's okay, I slept with her in my dreams!  ha2ha
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on December 09, 2011, 03:32:06 AM
George Harrison I'd You Have Anytime

I love this song. It is very calming.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 09, 2011, 03:36:15 AM
I love this song. It is very calming.

I really believe that Dylan and Harrison found themselves very compatible as songwriting partners, what do you think In My Life?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on December 09, 2011, 04:14:05 AM
I really believe that Dylan and Harrison found themselves very compatible as songwriting partners, what do you think In My Life?

I think the Traveling Wilburys proves that point.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 09, 2011, 04:18:04 AM
I think the Traveling Wilburys proves that point.

Amen to that! I really believe that Harrison found a songwriting partner that he can bounce ideas and write songs with. Its really sad that Harrison was not permitted in the Lennon/McCartney bubble.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 09, 2011, 04:44:09 PM
I remember her version well. She changes the gender in some of the lyrics, though.


Bob Dylan changed the lyrics dramatically when he released You Ain't Goin' Nowhere on his 1971 album Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits Vol. II ...


(http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/b/bob-dylan/album-bob-dylans-greatest-hits-vol-2.jpg)


Original 1967 Woodstock Demo:

Clouds so swift
Rain won’t lift
Gate won’t close
Railings froze
Get your mind off wintertime
You ain’t goin’ nowhere
Whoo-ee! Ride me high
Tomorrow’s the day
My bride’s gonna come
Oh, oh, are we gonna fly
Down in the easy chair!

I don’t care
How many letters they sent
Morning came and morning went
Pick up your money
And pack up your tent
You ain’t goin’ nowhere
Whoo-ee! Ride me high
Tomorrow’s the day
My bride’s gonna come
Oh, oh, are we gonna fly
Down in the easy chair!

Buy me a flute
And a gun that shoots
Tailgates and substitutes
Strap yourself
To the tree with roots
You ain’t goin’ nowhere
Whoo-ee! Ride me high
Tomorrow’s the day
My bride’s gonna come
Oh, oh, are we gonna fly
Down in the easy chair!

Genghis Khan
He could not keep
All his kings
Supplied with sleep
We’ll climb that hill no matter how steep
When we get up to it
Whoo-ee! Ride me high
Tomorrow’s the day
My bride’s gonna come
Oh, oh, are we gonna fly
Down in the easy chair!



1971 Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits Vol. II

Clouds so swift an' rain fallin' in
Gonna see a movie called "Gunga Din"
Pack up your money, pull up your tent McGuinn
You ain't goin' nowhere.

Whoo-ee, ride me high
Tomorrow's the day
That my bride's a-gonna come
Whoo-ee, are we gonna fly
Down into the easy chair.

Genghis Khan an' his brother Don
Could not keep on keepin' on
We'll climb that bridge after it's gone
After we're way past it.

Whoo-ee, ride me high
Tomorrow's the day
My bride's a-gonna come
Whoo-ee, are we gonna fly
Down into the easy chair.

Buy me some rings an' a gun that sings
A flute that toots an' a bee that stings
A sky that cries an' a bird that flies
A fish that walks an' a dog that talks.

Whoo-ee, ride me high
Tomorrow's the day
That my bride's a-gonna come
Whoo-ee, are we gonna fly
Down into the easy chair.


Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 09, 2011, 07:26:48 PM
A good thing about LPs was that the record company could pack in a bonus.

Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits came with this neat poster...


(http://i41.tinypic.com/2ut2m3c.jpg)


(http://meansheets.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/dylan-glaser21.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 09, 2011, 09:56:01 PM
A good thing about LPs was that the record company could pack in a bonus.

Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits came with this neat poster...


([url]http://i41.tinypic.com/2ut2m3c.jpg[/url])


([url]http://meansheets.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/dylan-glaser21.jpg[/url])


Where's OLIVIA NEWTON-JOHN at?  ha2ha
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 09, 2011, 11:07:17 PM
Where's OLIVIA NEWTON-JOHN at?  ha2ha


I have a Susan Dey autographed picture...

(http://i44.tinypic.com/ddhtsl.jpg)



And I saw her first!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 10, 2011, 02:08:41 PM
I have a Susan Dey autographed picture...

([url]http://i44.tinypic.com/ddhtsl.jpg[/url])



And I saw her first!


Yes, you saw her first Hello Goodbye and I have to live with it!  ha2ha But I slept with her first in my dreams!  ha2ha Great picture, where did you get the picture at?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 10, 2011, 09:44:15 PM
Yes, you saw her first Hello Goodbye and I have to live with it!  ha2ha But I slept with her first in my dreams!  ha2ha Great picture, where did you get the picture at?


My nephew bought me that picture several years ago as a present.  It looks like they can still be had for $48...

http://www.celebritysigners.com/storefrontprofiles/deluxeSFshop.aspx?sfid=110060&c=171903&search_text=&srch=168314406&page=132 (http://www.celebritysigners.com/storefrontprofiles/deluxeSFshop.aspx?sfid=110060&c=171903&search_text=&srch=168314406&page=132)


I think he paid $35   She's getting better with age!    ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 10, 2011, 10:54:59 PM
Bob Dylan was expressing his feelings about being criticized by the folk community here...

Bob Dylan - Positively 4th Street (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2wuPssClKs#)



It's also a great break-up song.   ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 11, 2011, 12:40:42 PM
My nephew bought me that picture several years ago as a present.  It looks like they can still be had for $48...

[url]http://www.celebritysigners.com/storefrontprofiles/deluxeSFshop.aspx?sfid=110060&c=171903&search_text=&srch=168314406&page=132[/url] ([url]http://www.celebritysigners.com/storefrontprofiles/deluxeSFshop.aspx?sfid=110060&c=171903&search_text=&srch=168314406&page=132[/url])


I think he paid $35   She's getting better with age!    ;)


I think that I'm going to buy one too.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 11, 2011, 12:42:34 PM
Bob Dylan was expressing his feelings about being criticized by the folk community here...

Bob Dylan - Positively 4th Street ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2wuPssClKs#[/url])



It's also a great break-up song.   ;)


DYLAN was great when it came to expressing his feelings into poetry and music! 
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 22, 2011, 07:20:15 AM
I think that I'm going to buy one too.

The girl is mine...


;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 22, 2011, 07:20:52 AM
Little Drummer Boy

Bob Dylan - Little Drummer Boy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcXW0Se4HMs#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 22, 2011, 03:58:10 PM
The girl is mine...


;)

Can I borrow her for 15 minutes?  ha2ha
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 23, 2011, 12:24:51 AM
Can I borrow her for 15 minutes?  ha2ha

No!  You keep dreaming.

She's mine, mine, mine...


;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 23, 2011, 12:26:56 AM
 It Must Be Santa

Bob Dylan - It Must Be Santa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8qE6WQmNus#ws)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 23, 2011, 03:09:23 AM
No!  You keep dreaming.

She's mine, mine, mine...


;)

Now we're starting to sound like BEAVIS AND BUTTHEAD trying to score with SUSAN DEY!  ha2ha
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 23, 2011, 03:21:37 AM
Now we're starting to sound like BEAVIS AND BUTTHEAD trying to score with SUSAN DEY!  ha2ha

I was quoting lines from The Girl Is Mine (Michael Jackson with Paul McCartney)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 23, 2011, 03:58:32 AM
I was quoting lines from The Girl Is Mine (Michael Jackson with Paul McCartney)

I know but BEAVIS AND BUTTHEAD sounded better!  ha2ha She's mine, mine mine...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 24, 2011, 09:46:46 PM
Here's one from DYLAN!

Bob Dylan - It Must Be Santa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8qE6WQmNus#ws)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 24, 2011, 11:33:49 PM
^

I posted that one yesterday, BF.  You're too busy looking at that picture of Susan Dey who I saw first!


 ha2ha
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on December 25, 2011, 12:37:58 AM
^

I posted that one yesterday, BF.  You're too busy looking at that picture of Susan Dey who I saw first!


 ha2ha

 ha2ha  ha2ha Thats what happens when you have a crush on a woman that you can't have!  ha2ha

P.S. I think that I have a crush on Shirley Jones at the moment!  ha2ha 
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on January 09, 2012, 02:58:19 AM
Just Like A Woman

Just Like A Woman Live 1966 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZFpSYYZuMI#)
1966
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on January 09, 2012, 03:35:16 AM
Desolation Row

Bob Dylan - Desolation Row (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7jTIXMzP7g#ws)
1965



That's Al Kooper accompanying on electric guitar.


(http://media.soundonsound.com/sos/jan05/images/alkooper2withbob.l.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: BeatlesForever on January 09, 2012, 08:59:02 PM
Here's one of my most favorite songs by DYLAN!

Bob Dylan - Like A Rolling Stone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLiLSRKms30#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on May 24, 2012, 06:58:26 PM
Happy 71st birthday to Mr. Dylan! I couldn't find a real baby picture but doesn't he look young here?  :)

(http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee372/KelMar1963/BOBDYLANBOB__.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on May 25, 2012, 12:35:08 AM
(http://www.nemsworld.com/beatles/64whit/cake03.jpg)

I'm glad it's your birthday...
Happy Birthday to you!


Happy Birthday Bob!




(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2j3j2kjUY1rs6q89o1_1280.png)


(http://i56.tinypic.com/2jcwzzp.jpg)


(http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Bob-Dylan-s10.jpg)


(http://blogue.us/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/bob-dylan.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: nimrod on May 25, 2012, 01:25:25 AM
71 eh

is 70 the new 50 ?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on May 25, 2012, 01:41:47 AM
Ah but he was so much older then, he's younger than that now...


My Back Pages--practise and rehearsal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9GMcJF0WDo#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: TomMo on June 24, 2012, 04:35:43 PM
Loved Dylan through "Blonde On Blonde". Saw him in '66 (which I recall vividly), then again with the Band ('74?), and with the Grateful Dead years later. His early work was outstanding; poignant lyrics from the "folk years", and amazing imagery in the "electric years." But personally, very little of his lyrics since 1968 have impressed me.

I respect those of you who regard him as an icon, but to me, today's Dylan compared to early Dylan reminds me too much of Vegas Elvis compared to pre-Army Elvis. Sorry.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on August 14, 2012, 03:15:56 AM
It's All Over Now, Baby Blue

Bob Dylan - It's All Over Now, Baby Blue (Live at the Newport Festival - 1965) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzb3zzQNfXk#)
Newport Folk Festival    25 July 1965
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on August 14, 2012, 03:27:54 AM
Mr. Tambourine Man

mr tambourine man, 7/26/64, newport (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBgoY89Jm2Q#)
Newport Folk Festival    26 July 1964
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 08, 2012, 11:24:43 PM
A slightly different version of The Times They Are a-Changin'


Bob Dylan - Times They are a-Changin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCWdCKPtnYE#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 13, 2012, 10:15:07 PM
The evolution of one of Bob Dylan's greatest works...

Visions Of Johanna

Seems Like A Freeze Out- Elston Gunn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_eQ3Vx3ygo#)
Take 1   Seems Like A Freeze-out



(Seems Like A) Freeze Out- Elston Gunn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8QIEvpYFu8#)
Another take




Bob Dylan - Visions of Johanna (vinyl rip) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNN-AUF38Aw#ws)

Robbie Robertson - Lead Guitar
Charlie McCoy - Guitar
Wayne Moss - Guitar
Joe South - Bass Guitar
Al Kooper - Organ
Kenneth Buttrey - Drums



"Elston Gunn" was one of Robert Zimmerman's early aliases.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 14, 2012, 12:51:33 AM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0j5nAekSzEY/TiCduFfqUSI/AAAAAAAAAb0/eVqKv1iJkdI/s1600/robbie-dylan1.jpeg)

Robbie Robertson



(http://www.nashvillescene.com/imager/charlie-mccoy/b/original/2420810/b204/coverstory1-3.jpg)

Charlie McCoy



(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_riMGR1xxxk8/TBg39hOeZDI/AAAAAAAAH5s/Z-bb96evNKo/s400/young+wayne.jpg)

Wayne Moss



(http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/story/singer-songwriter-joe-south-dead-at-72-20120907/1000x306/20120907-joe-south-306x-1347020908.jpg)

Joe South



(http://forum.belmont.edu/muzzbuzz/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/dylanamerica-11.jpg)

Al Kooper



(https://www.morrisonhotelgallery.com/images/medium/JBNY712007.jpg)

Kenneth Buttrey

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 14, 2012, 02:17:03 AM
My copy of the Blonde On Blonde LP sounds like the video I posted.  I played it thousands of times.

Here's the whole album without the scratches...


(http://www.retro-cafe.com/60s/music/dylan/blonde/dylan-blonde.jpg)

https://vimeo.com/42333127 (https://vimeo.com/42333127)

Visions Of Johanna is at 8:21
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 16, 2012, 03:49:25 AM
Al Kooper talks about recording Blonde On Blonde in this 2012 symposium at the Columbia Records Studio in Nashville where it was recorded...

Al Kooper: The Making of Bob Dylan's Blonde on Blonde / The Record That Changed Nashville (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01IE0vVN08c#ws)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 21, 2012, 01:49:05 AM
More on Al Kooper recording and performing with Bob Dylan...


Al Kooper Tribute (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeSe9UQUfzc#ws)

1:03 - 2:28
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on September 21, 2012, 02:50:44 AM
(http://www.pugwashtheband.com/images/239.jpg)

(http://i47.tinypic.com/4pxet4.jpg)


Bob Dylan - One of us must know (sooner or later) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jijyp9xoVA#)

Al Kooper and his magnificent organ swirls!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on March 10, 2013, 04:56:51 AM
Don't Think Twice It's Alright

Don't Think, Twice It's All Right Peter, Paul Mary (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGpkS7LhKl8#)
Peter, Paul and Mary




THE WONDER WHO   DON'T THINK TWICE IT'S ALRIGHT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QG3NPCtErk#)
The Wonder Who



Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on September 08, 2013, 07:08:53 PM
Masters of War - Bob Dylan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwuWL7uUFl0#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Brynjar on September 08, 2013, 10:12:21 PM
Bob Dylan - Sign on the Window (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrmT4KQe_pM#ws)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 03, 2013, 07:00:16 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WQJ6D2VYKRs/T9CziI9NZGI/AAAAAAABQvY/ONlLzKplN8w/s1600/Edie+Sedgwick's+Photos+by++Andy+Warhol+(3).jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 03, 2013, 07:02:53 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Kwi5RJ7dp8c/T9CzjWKTLlI/AAAAAAABQvg/iMxq4VIZGBc/s1600/Edie+Sedgwick's+Photos+by++Andy+Warhol+(4).jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 03, 2013, 07:03:59 AM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NjN0nfb0cCE/T9CzfDjugRI/AAAAAAABQvI/tsfH5NS066g/s1600/Edie+Sedgwick's+Photos+by++Andy+Warhol+(1).jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 03, 2013, 07:06:52 AM
(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_le3yigk0pV1qd6sj6o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 03, 2013, 07:07:16 AM
Edie Sedgwick (It's all over now Baby Blue) video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMgADOBo05I#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 03, 2013, 07:32:57 AM
Visions Of Johanna

https://vimeo.com/30256466 (https://vimeo.com/30256466)


The ghost of electricity howls in the bones of her face


(http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/karlamm_files_wordpress_com.jpg)




Where these visions of Johanna have now taken my place.


(http://tekstovi-pesama.com/g_img2/0/j/22312/joan%2520baez-7.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Ovi on November 03, 2013, 08:02:20 AM
I'm a big, big fan of Bob and there were days in the last year or so when all I needed were his albums. I have listened to everything up to 'New Morning' (+ 'Blood On The Tracks' and 'Desire') and nothing has disappointed so far.

People say that it's only lyrics that he's good at, but come on, can good words and good words alone make you so successful in the music business? I don't think so. As revealed by 'Blonde on Blonde' - album where few of the lyrics actually make sense when taken literally - Bob's songs are more than just that. His way of singing (he's a vastly underrated singer), the atmosphere/mood/feeling he creates through everything (lyrics, intonations, melody) and the way he picks his backing musicians, always suitable for the songs in question... He's a master; an artist in a class of his own.

'Blonde on Blonde' is without a doubt his peak, but 'John Wesley Harding' comes very close in my list of favourites. It's his most harrowing, haunting and emotional album. 'I Dreamed I Saw St. Augustine' is a big choker for me, and I suggest everybody who hasn't heard the album, to at least give that one song a few listens.

Another favourite songs would be Masters of War, A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall, My Back Pages, Spanish Harlem Incident, I Shall Be Free(/10), Mr. Tambourine Man, It's Alright Ma (I'm Only Bleeding), Ballad of A Thin Man, Desolation Row, Visions of Johanna, Stuck Inside of Mobile..., 4th Time Around, Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands, Dear Landlord, I Pity The Poor Immigrant, I Threw It All Away, New Morning, Days of '49, Tangled Up In Blue, Idiot Wind, If You See Her, Say Hello, One More Cup Of Coffee and Sara.

Can't wait to get to explore the rest of his discography. But all in good time.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on November 03, 2013, 06:11:41 PM
Visions Of Johanna

The ghost of electricity howls in the bones of her face

Where these visions of Johanna have now taken my place.


It seems that interpretations of this song abound but one thing is clear; Dylan was going through major emotional turmoil when he wrote it.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on November 03, 2013, 06:18:47 PM
I'm a big, big fan of Bob and there were days in the last year or so when all I needed were his albums.

For years I've been on the fence about Bob Dylan but all of a sudden he clicked for me. I must admit that his lyrics were what really made me see the light but I agree with you that he's much more than just that.

Quote
Can't wait to get to explore the rest of his discography. But all in good time.

You're much further along in your journey than I am. I'm glad that there are other fans here to help me along.  :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Ovi on November 03, 2013, 07:20:06 PM
You're much further along in your journey than I am.

Even so, there are still many, many records waiting to be explored. 33 studio albums, 11 live albums and then there's the 10 Bootleg Series! Quite a hard-working guy, wasn't he? Even with all the bad reviews I've read about some of his records, I still can't wait to hear them all. Stopping at a certain point in an artist's discography (especially with the ones I like so much) is, to me, like leaving a book unfinished. Once you've embraced on the journey, there's no turning back.

I'm glad that there are other fans here to help me along.  :)

What have you heard so far, Kelley?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on November 03, 2013, 10:38:46 PM
Stopping at a certain point in an artist's discography (especially with the ones I like so much) is, to me, like leaving a book unfinished. Once you've embraced on the journey, there's no turning back.

Yes!

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What have you heard so far, Kelley?

To be honest Ovi, I've gotten most of my Dylan through Pandora radio. I did get the "No Direction Home" CDs because I went nuts trying to find its version of "Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again" on YouTube. I like the extra organ bits! But I know I need to listen to the other albums, in order. Starting with bootlegs is totally backwards. LOL Oh yeah, I have listened to "Memphis Skyline". The library I work at still has some vinyl so I borrowed that one...last November! I guess I ought to take it back, huh?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 04, 2013, 02:40:43 AM
It seems that interpretations of this song abound but one thing is clear; Dylan was going through major emotional turmoil when he wrote it.


One thing we do know, he wrote Visions Of Johanna in late 1965.  He recorded the song with The Hawks who were later to become The Band.  The working title of the song was Seems Like A Freeze Out... 


Freeze Out 1 (VOJ outtake) -Dylan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYifDaD96rM#ws)


Bob Dylan recorded Visions Of Johanna in February 1966 with the back-up musicians I listed on the previous page of this thread.  That's what appears on Blonde On Blonde.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 04, 2013, 02:50:31 AM
A couple of years ago...


Visions of Johanna (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7KzB16Ik#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 04, 2013, 04:57:41 AM
By the way, that Eight Elvises painting that you see up there in that picture of Bob Dylan and Andy Warhol sold for $100,000,000 in 2008.


(http://1uyxqn3lzdsa2ytyzj1asxmmmpt.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Warhol-8-Elvises.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 04, 2013, 05:27:42 AM
Talk about clues, there are a bunch of them on the cover of Bringing It All Back Home (1965)...


(http://bettylivin.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/dylan.jpg)


Bob Dylan - It's All Over Now, Baby Blue (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBiwMT77Csg#)


Looks like The Beatles got that idea from Bob Dylan.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 04, 2013, 05:56:10 AM
It's interesting that this song follows Visions Of Johanna on Blonde On Blonde...


One Of Us Must Know (Sooner Or Later)

Bob Dylan- One Of Us Must Know (Sooner Or Later) 2010 Mono Recording (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o4fx5v2a3A#)



(http://i40.tinypic.com/291pdme.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on November 04, 2013, 06:49:16 PM
One Of Us Must Know (Sooner Or Later)


Why just one? It might be better if both know. Anyway, I'm ready for something that makes me smile and makes perfect sense. He does that very well too:


http://youtu.be/7WCMw9zW5gE (http://youtu.be/7WCMw9zW5gE)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 04, 2013, 07:10:48 PM
^

Ah!  His Woody Guthrie phase...


Talkin' World War III Blues

Talkin' World War III Blues (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rRxwMyOZX8#)





Talkin' Dust Bowl Blues

Woody Guthrie - Talkin' Dust Bowl Blues.AVI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOpsGkC5-tE#)
Woody Guthrie   1936


(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IA8QU-C7KeE/Tpw-K9jKdFI/AAAAAAAAANw/RQOpYJYbiUE/s1600/dylanwoody.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 04, 2013, 07:23:22 PM
Why just one? It might be better if both know.


But then he wouldn't be enigmatic, would he?




It seems that interpretations of this song abound but one thing is clear; Dylan was going through major emotional turmoil when he wrote it.


I can't say for sure.  All that's known is that he was living with his pregnant wife Sara at The Chelsea Hotel in NYC when he wrote Visions Of Johanna.


(http://www.williesimpson.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Bob-Dylan-and-Sara-Dylan.jpg)


Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on November 05, 2013, 05:23:52 AM
But then he wouldn't be enigmatic, would he?

No, I guess not. It's neat to try and figure him out but when I actually have to relate to someone, I would much prefer candor. Guessing isn't fun then.


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I can't say for sure.  All that's known is that he was living with his pregnant wife Sara at The Chelsea Hotel in NYC when he wrote Visions Of Johanna.

I wonder if the marriage was the result of the pregnancy instead of the other way around. If so, he may have gone into matrimony with a lot of unresolved feelings. Or not! So I guess that it's okay if I don't really get the song, huh?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on November 05, 2013, 05:31:39 AM
^

Ah!  His Woody Guthrie phase...



I guess I'm a Woody Guthrie phase Bob Dylan fan. I like the songs that tell a story. I might have to do a little research to understand them but I do eventually understand.


http://youtu.be/-hygKtKhSLc (http://youtu.be/-hygKtKhSLc)

I came across "Song to Woody" when I was researching the story behind this one (It was actually Arlo's version that I heard first):

http://youtu.be/oz7oguguIZE (http://youtu.be/oz7oguguIZE)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on November 05, 2013, 05:39:23 AM
Another very poignant one:

http://youtu.be/Vs1X9vdz-nM (http://youtu.be/Vs1X9vdz-nM)

Hattie Carroll
(http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee372/KelMar1963/hattie-carroll_zps15d85859.jpg) (http://s1224.photobucket.com/user/KelMar1963/media/hattie-carroll_zps15d85859.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Ovi on November 05, 2013, 05:48:35 PM
To be honest Ovi, I've gotten most of my Dylan through Pandora radio. I did get the "No Direction Home" CDs because I went nuts trying to find its version of "Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again" on YouTube. I like the extra organ bits! But I know I need to listen to the other albums, in order. Starting with bootlegs is totally backwards. LOL Oh yeah, I have listened to "Memphis Skyline". The library I work at still has some vinyl so I borrowed that one...last November! I guess I ought to take it back, huh?

Ah, the famous country album (it's called Nashville Skyline btw  :)). Very interesting chapter in both his life and career. His "croon" voice from that period of time has to be heard in order to be believed.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on November 05, 2013, 06:15:08 PM
Stopping at a certain point in an artist's discography (especially with the ones I like so much) is, to me, like leaving a book unfinished. Once you've embraced on the journey, there's no turning back.

I agree with the spirit of your sentence but not with the letter. Most artists have a classic period that defined them, their "must have" albums, and they also have their "just sold because of the name" albums. Of course that if you really like/love an artist you'll be interested in exploring the non-classic records, but at least in my case there's a point when I see the quality/sound/spirit of the beloved music kept far away in the past, then I'm no longer interested in new stuff by that artist. That happens to me with the Rolling Stones, for example, I don't like almost anything I've heard from them after 1972. Or Paul McCartney, I don't even care when he records a new album now. I've a selective spirit more than a completist mind, but I always try to get any record that deserves my attention. I believe that the art is more important than the artist.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Ovi on November 05, 2013, 06:29:01 PM
I agree with the spirit of your sentence but not with the letter. Most artists have a classic period that defined them, their "must have" albums, and they also have their "just sold because of the name" albums. Of course that if you really like/love an artist you'll be interested in exploring the non-classic records, but at least in my case there's a point when I see the quality/sound/spirit of the beloved music kept far away in the past, then I'm no longer interested in new stuff by that artist. That happens to me with the Rolling Stones, for example, I don't like almost anything I've heard from them after 1972. Or Paul McCartney, I don't even care when he records a new album now. I've a selective spirit more than a completist mind, but I always try to get any record that deserves my attention. I believe that the art is more important than the artist.

I get what you're saying and I wish I'd be the same. There's so many great albums out there that I could be listening to, instead of wasting my time with sh*t like Mike Love's "we’ll be california dreamin', bay watchin' everyday*"-version of the Beach Boys or Kinks' post-'76 lame attempts at cocky stadium rock. But it's just the way I am. I need to hear them, can't leave the book unfinished.

*no, I didn't make that lyric up.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on November 05, 2013, 06:41:05 PM
Ah, the famous country album (it's called Nashville Skyline btw  :)).

Oops! My mind knew that but my fingers forgot! It is an interesting album, especially that duet with Johnny Cash.

That happens to me with the Rolling Stones, for example, I don't like almost anything I've heard from them after 1972.

I tend to agree with you on that, Andrés. I'd have to look at their discography before I could say that definitively but I know for sure that I love their early offerings. I also am not real well versed on Paul's solo material, other than the obvious hits. I was pretty young when Band on the Run came out but I did have that and loved it and my brother got me London Town for my birthday but I kind of lost interest when Paul teamed up with his friend Michael Jackson! I guess I kept myself pretty well occupied learning about the Beatles and other 60's music.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on November 05, 2013, 06:41:31 PM
About Bob Dylan, although I'm not a huge fan, I've always liked him and listened to his music; but lately I seriously started to listen to his classic albums more carefully. My favorite record is The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan, I think it contains his absolutely best songwriting; those songs are so good that only his voice, an acoustic guitar and an occasional harmonica are enough to shine. Bringing It All Back Home and Highway 61 Revisited complete his Holy Trinity in my opinion. Blonde On Blonde is great, but I'd put it on a second level. John Wesley Harding is an album I really enjoy listening to. Another Side Of Bob Dylan is an amazing songwriting effort. Nashville Skyline gets the best of country music. The Times They Are A-Changin' is minor in quality but still substancial. And New Morning is usually an over-looked album, I really like that record too.

I still need to listen more carefully to other of his classic albums like Blood On The Tracks and Desire, but for the moment they didn't get to touch me like his previous stuff.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on November 05, 2013, 06:47:12 PM
I get what you're saying and I wish I'd be the same. There's so many great albums out there that I could be listening to, instead of wasting my time with sh*t like Mike Love's "we’ll be california dreamin', bay watchin' everyday*"-version of the Beach Boys or Kinks' post-'76 lame attempts at cocky stadium rock. But it's just the way I am. I need to hear them, can't leave the book unfinished.

*no, I didn't make that lyric up.

I just don't consider that stuff as part of the book. Apocryphal records by the same artist. :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on November 05, 2013, 06:59:30 PM
I guess I kept myself pretty well occupied learning about the Beatles and other 60's music.

Yes, I think the same. I've always thought that if the music is what really matters, a Beatles fan should be much more interested in the musical context of the Fab Four than in a new Paul's album released in 2013. Not that other bands could make the same music than the Beatles, but they showed a parallelism in terms of revolutionizing rock music.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Ovi on November 05, 2013, 07:08:01 PM
About Bob Dylan, although I'm not a huge fan, I've always liked him and listened to his music; but lately I seriously started to listen to his classic albums more carefully. My favorite record is The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan, I think it contains his absolutely best songwriting; those songs are so good that only his voice, an acoustic guitar and an occasional harmonica are enough to shine. Bringing It All Back Home and Highway 61 Revisited complete his Holy Trinity in my opinion. Blonde On Blonde is great, but I'd put it on a second level. John Wesley Harding is an album I really enjoy listening to. Another Side Of Bob Dylan is an amazing songwriting effort. Nashville Skyline gets the best of country music. The Times They Are A-Changin' is minor in quality but still substancial. And New Morning is usually an over-looked album, I really like that record too.

I still need to listen more carefully to other of his classic albums like Blood On The Tracks and Desire, but for the moment they didn't get to touch me like his previous stuff.

Nice post, Hombre! Didn't know you listened to so much of his stuff.

'Blood on The Tracks' and 'Desire' are both a bit overrated, in my opinion. The best songs on the former are as good as anything he's ever done (Tangled Up In Blue, Idiot Wind, If You See Her Say Hello), but some others just don't do it for me (Lily, Rosemary and The Jack of Hearts being the most obvious example - what an yawnfest). I like 'Desire' more because it's more varied musically; it offers a wider palette of moods. What I don't like though, are some of the lyrics written by Jacques Levy (particularly Isis, Hurricane and Joey, though I love all 3 musically).

Should we start a microscope series for Dylan's 60's records?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Ovi on November 05, 2013, 07:10:44 PM
Oops! My mind knew that but my fingers forgot! It is an interesting album, especially that duet with Johnny Cash.

I love the duet. Kinda sloppy, but very passionate.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on November 05, 2013, 07:31:01 PM
Nice post, Hombre! Didn't know you listened to so much of his stuff.

I had spent a good time only listening to his classic songs from a long compilation, until I decided to listen to his true albums. And I certainly wasn't disappointed.

'Blood on The Tracks' and 'Desire' are both a bit overrated, in my opinion. The best songs on the former are as good as anything he's ever done (Tangled Up In Blue, Idiot Wind, If You See Her Say Hello), but some others just don't do it for me (Lily, Rosemary and The Jack of Hearts being the most obvious example - what an yawnfest). I like 'Desire' more because it's more varied musically; it offers a wider palette of moods. What I don't like though, are some of the lyrics written by Jacques Levy (particularly Isis, Hurricane and Joey, though I love all 3 musically).

I guess that at first listen they didn't impressed me as much as the previous albums, perhaps because they sounded more predictable to me. You seem to feel the same more or less.

What can you tell me about Dylan's debut? I still didn't listen to that record, but I know it has lots of covers.

Should we start a microscope series for Dylan's 60's records?

That's a great idea and if you want to do those microscopes I'll contribute until the point I could.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Ovi on November 05, 2013, 08:58:04 PM
What can you tell me about Dylan's debut? I still didn't listen to that record, but I know it has lots of covers.

Unfortunately, I've yet to hear that one.

That's a great idea and if you want to do those microscopes I'll contribute until the point I could.

Cool. I'll give it a go as soon as I have some more spare time.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on November 05, 2013, 09:29:59 PM
Unfortunately, I've yet to hear that one.

Cool. I'll give it a go as soon as I have some more spare time.

That would be great, and I think it would be ok if you start with The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan, if we want to make focus on the master's songwriting. It's in your hands.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 06, 2013, 03:28:02 AM
What can you tell me about Dylan's debut? I still didn't listen to that record, but I know it has lots of covers.

Right, the album is mostly covers.  The two original songs credited to Bob Dylan are Talkin' New York which, as you see, is based on the tune of Woody Guthrie's Talkin' Dust Bowl Blues.  The other is Song To Woody, the tune of which is based on Woody Guthries's 1913 Massacre.


That would be great, and I think it would be ok if you start with The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan, if we want to make focus on the master's songwriting. It's in your hands.

It's a good idea to start with his eponymous debut album Bob Dylan.  The album, even though it didn't sell well in 1962, is still noteworthy for Bob Dylan's early style which is carried over to The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 06, 2013, 03:52:29 AM
Oops! My mind knew that but my fingers forgot! It is an interesting album, especially that duet with Johnny Cash.


Ah!  Nashville Skyline.  His Country phase.


Bob Dylan paid homage to Eric Von Schmidt on the cover of his album...


(http://www.amiright.com/album-covers/images/album_Bob-Dylan-Nashville-Skyline.jpg)    (http://www.amiright.com/album-covers/images/album_Eric-Von-Schmidt-The-Folk-Blues-of-Eric-Von-Schmidt.jpg)


Did anyone spot the "clue" on the cover of Bringing It All Back Home?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 06, 2013, 04:01:42 AM
(http://johannasvisions.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Bob-dylan-nashvilleskyline.jpg)



Bob Dylan - Lay Lady Lay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6ODMKSWzT4#ws)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 06, 2013, 04:09:31 AM
But back to Eric Von Schmidt for a moment.  He was influential in the development of Bob Dylan's early style...


Eric Von Schmidt Down On Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvUKiyQDDrs#)




Looks like he influenced Big Brother And The Holding Company too...


Big Brother & The Holding Company - Big Brother & The Holding Company - 08 - Down On Me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWwMXeJccBE#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on November 06, 2013, 04:21:13 AM
I love that picture on the cover of Nashville Skyline. It's the embodiment of the lyrics and attitude I like best from him.

Did anyone spot the "clue" on the cover of Bringing It All Back Home?

I'm not sure what mystery the clue we're looking for relates to. Does it pertain to his reclusive period following his motorcycle accident?

But back to Eric Von Schmidt for a moment.  He was influential in the development of Bob Dylan's early style...


I was hoping you'd expand on him. Looks like learning about Dylan is also learning about Woody and Eric and ??
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 06, 2013, 04:26:45 AM
I'm not sure what mystery the clue we're looking for relates to. Does it pertain to his reclusive period following his motorcycle accident?


The Folk Blues Of Eric Von Schmidt LP is next to Bob Dylan on the cover of Bringing It All Back Home...


(http://bettylivin.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/dylan.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on November 06, 2013, 04:38:35 AM
The Folk Blues Of Eric Von Schmidt LP is next to Bob Dylan on the cover of Bringing It All Back Home...

So he's letting everyone know who influenced him and that he was spending his time recovering and reflecting and where he's been?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 06, 2013, 04:43:50 AM
His motorcycle accident was more than a year later, in July 1966.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on November 06, 2013, 04:46:20 AM
His motorcycle accident was more than a year later, in July 1966.

Well, then scratch that part. I think this is too hard for Dylan 101, which is where I'm at.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 06, 2013, 04:47:13 AM
Well, then scratch that part. I think this is too hard for Dylan 101, which is where I'm at.


Here's one of several analyses of the Bringing It All Back Home cover:  http://bobdylanbringingitallbackhome.blogspot.com/2012/05/album-cover-analysis.html (http://bobdylanbringingitallbackhome.blogspot.com/2012/05/album-cover-analysis.html)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on November 06, 2013, 05:06:48 AM
^^^

Thanks Barry. I'll be sure to study that for my homework.  ;) This too: Bob Dylan Not Like a Rolling Stone Interview. Spin, December 1985. http://www.interferenza.com/bcs/interw/85-dec.htm (http://www.interferenza.com/bcs/interw/85-dec.htm)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 06, 2013, 05:58:56 AM
Good interview.  But it raises more questions than it answers.  One thing for sure, he should never have traded Eight Elvises for a sofa.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 06, 2013, 06:20:46 AM
I was hoping you'd expand on him. Looks like learning about Dylan is also learning about Woody and Eric and ??


He was a folk singer-songwriter that made the East Coast folk music scene in the early 60s...


Eric Von Schmidt Buffalo Skinners (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgtEu6fzkd0#)



He was a painter too.  He did this Bob Dylan and Joan Baez concert poster...



(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-U82llKzbgAk/UW3WZJ85OBI/AAAAAAAAB6s/iLVnFXHmb3E/s1600/ScannedImage.jpg)



Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 06, 2013, 07:27:09 AM
It is an interesting album, especially that duet with Johnny Cash.


I love the duet. Kinda sloppy, but very passionate.


That's Country!



Girl from the North Country Bob Dylan & Johnny Cash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IZ7MD9oc3o#)


Bob Dylan Video 1969 05 01 Johnny Cash Show 03 Girl of the north country mpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYnE6Fpkw98#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 06, 2013, 08:07:39 AM
^^^

Thanks Barry. I'll be sure to study that for my homework.

Then there's that carving in the fireplace.  Three figures are standing and one figure is supine.  That means Paul is dead.





 ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on November 06, 2013, 11:07:21 AM
Right, the album is mostly covers.  The two original songs credited to Bob Dylan are Talkin' New York which, as you see, is based on the tune of Woody Guthrie's Talkin' Dust Bowl Blues.  The other is Song To Woody, the tune of which is based on Woody Guthries's 1913 Massacre.


It's a good idea to start with his eponymous debut album Bob Dylan.  The album, even though it didn't sell well in 1962, is still noteworthy for Bob Dylan's early style which is carried over to The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan.

Yes, the debut would be the correct begining. I still didn't listen to that record, but if Ovi wants to start the microscopes with that, I'll be looking for it.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on November 07, 2013, 04:35:18 AM
Then there's that carving in the fireplace.  Three figures are standing and one figure is supine.  That means Paul is dead.





 ;D

Aww...you're putting me on Dr. Barry!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on November 07, 2013, 04:46:12 AM
Bob Dylan Video 1969 05 01 Johnny Cash Show 03 Girl of the north country

I like this version better than the one on the album.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 07, 2013, 05:26:33 AM
I like this version better than the one on the album.


Bob Dylan was playing a duet with Johnny Cash.  They respected and admired each other deeply for several years...


(http://www.mojo4music.com/media/2013/08/johnny-cash-bob-dylan-770.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/3j9ybqd.jpg)




(http://st-listas.20minutos.es/images/2012-01/318548/3364169_640px.jpg?1327596070)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on November 07, 2013, 05:39:02 AM
http://youtu.be/2R2NrV4ve1o (http://youtu.be/2R2NrV4ve1o)

I love that June could laugh at herself after 2:09. She was great!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 11, 2013, 05:49:03 AM
If Not For You

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mipoh8N3ux1qj7hlto1_1361687085_cover.jpg)

https://vimeo.com/23183455 (https://vimeo.com/23183455)


The Beatles GEORGE HARRISON - If Not For You (audio w/ lyrics) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxO0t9ClfrI#)

George Harrison And Bob Dylan "If Not For You" (Rehearsal) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCy_ulOAr4g#)



Disco - Olivia Newton John - If Not For You (1971) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1EShZXYn9w#)

:)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 11, 2013, 11:59:02 PM
If Not For You

George Harrison- it not for you.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5J23P_8EYI#)
The 30th Anniversary Concert Celebration of Bob Dylan  1992  Madison Square Garden
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on November 12, 2013, 05:14:57 AM
You seem to have forgotten one...
http://youtu.be/2FlL9enLPyo (http://youtu.be/2FlL9enLPyo)

 :P
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 12, 2013, 05:42:51 AM
Well, Bob Dylan, George Harrison and Olivia Newton-John were bigger than Rod.

Rod Stewart wouldn't be big for another few months...



(http://i43.tinypic.com/i26kuc.jpg)


Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 12, 2013, 06:06:29 AM
Day Of The Locusts

Bob Dylan - Day of the Locusts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-HTbrY-RNk#)



Magicicada septendecim (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6hurcCucps#ws)


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Magicicada_septendecim.jpg)



Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on November 13, 2013, 03:15:20 AM
([url]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mipoh8N3ux1qj7hlto1_1361687085_cover.jpg[/url])



The title track of that album is catchy:

Bob Dylan-New Morning (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQUvezM3D3E#)

And I love the closer, "Father Of Night", I think it's a more honest view about God than his songs from his "born again" period.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on November 13, 2013, 03:29:05 AM
Bob Dylan - If You Gotta Go Go Now (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYfYy362wHs#)

the flying burritto brothers If you gotta go (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg6zg-bu5Oc#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on November 13, 2013, 03:34:53 AM
Yes!  New Morning is a great album, Dave.

Dave?

Father Of Night is his interpretation of the holy Jewish prayer, The Amidah...

Yes, I've read that, but I think it can be seen as an universal description of God.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 13, 2013, 03:42:19 AM
Dave?

Yes, I've read that, but I think it can be seen as an universal description of God.


Sorry, Nowhere Man.  I was editing my post because I called you Dave in error.

Here's what I poisted...


Yes!  New Morning is a great album, Dave.

Father Of Night is his interpretation of the holy Jewish prayer, The Amidah...


Father of night - Bob Dylan. 1970 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEb1CWyrMjE#ws)

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 13, 2013, 03:56:15 AM
Yes, I've read that, but I think it can be seen as an universal description of God.

I agree. 

Here's one specific example in The Amidah:  משיב הרוח ומוריד הגשם

Which means "He (God) causes the wind to blow and the rain to fall.  The lyrics include the verse "Father of love and Father of rain.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on November 13, 2013, 04:03:17 AM
Sorry, Nowhere Man.  I was editing my post because I called you Dave in error.

No problem, I just was surprised and didn't understand!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on November 13, 2013, 04:04:42 AM
I agree. 

Here's one specific example in The Amidah:  משיב הרוח ומוריד הגשם

Which means "He (God) causes the wind to blow and the rain to fall.  The lyrics include the verse "Father of love and Father of rain.

That's a nice source of inspiration.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 13, 2013, 04:14:15 AM
That's a nice source of inspiration.

It's a prayer inserted into The Amidah at a certain time of the year to ask for rain to ensure a good growing season.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 13, 2013, 04:25:14 AM
No problem, I just was surprised and didn't understand!

Dcazz = Dave
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on November 13, 2013, 07:06:22 AM
([url]http://bettylivin.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/dylan.jpg[/url])


I just listened to this one tonight. What a treat that was! I felt like I was on the edge of my seat, waiting to hear what great lyric was coming next. When I listen to Dylan I always feel like I should be writing some of this stuff down, so I don't forget it.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 13, 2013, 07:24:31 AM
I just listened to this one tonight. What a treat that was! I felt like I was on the edge of my seat, waiting to hear what great lyric was coming next. When I listen to Dylan I always feel like I should be writing some of this stuff down, so I don't forget it.


You don't have to.  The lyrics to all his songs are on his website:  http://www.bobdylan.com/us/home (http://www.bobdylan.com/us/home)

You can even visit his store and buy this set of seven signed and played harmonicas for only $25,000:  http://www.bobdylanstore.com/BD_official_merch/Harmonicas_10/BD-Played-Set (http://www.bobdylanstore.com/BD_official_merch/Harmonicas_10/BD-Played-Set)


(http://www.bobdylanstore.com/core/media/media.nl?id=1014&c=973412&h=f790568b201eba71f982)

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on November 13, 2013, 07:29:33 AM
You don't have to.  The lyrics to all his songs are on his website:  [url]http://www.bobdylan.com/us/home[/url] ([url]http://www.bobdylan.com/us/home[/url])

You can even visit his store and buy this set of seven signed and played harmonicas for only $25,000


I've been visiting that site quite a bit. It's nice to follow along when I'm listening. There are just certain lyrics that really strike me and I don't want to forget them. I would buy the harmonicas but I'm saving up for the remastered Live at the BBC.  ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Dcazz on November 13, 2013, 06:15:08 PM
You had me going for a minute!

Dave
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 14, 2013, 04:01:15 AM
Cocaine Blues

Cocaine Blues (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvoKuQPVEdU#)
Reverend Gary Davis




Cocaine Blues - Ian Buchanan 1972 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pEO6yVbqg8#)
Ian Buchanan   From my lesson tapes  1972




Cocaine Blues 1961 "Robert Zimmerman" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8a6eRME6po#)
Robert Zimmerman
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 14, 2013, 04:10:39 AM
Cocaine Blues

Keith Richards - Cocaine Blues (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SutO9tW9k9g#)
Keith Richards
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 17, 2013, 06:54:23 AM
Don't Think Twice, It's Alright

Don't Think Twice, It's Alright Live - Bob Dylan 1962.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N17KILNSS0#)
Live at The Gaslight Cafe   Fall 1962



(http://www.berkshirefinearts.com/uploadedImages/articles/3059_gaslight00726143.jpg)


(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_y8h3u_Gr5s/UCdGlqkle6I/AAAAAAAAD7E/EjMLhtofkpA/s400/Gaslight_Cafe1.jpg)

116 MacDougal Street  Greenwich Village
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 07, 2013, 02:02:52 AM
Y'all forgot about Bob Dylan, huh?  Well, the Fender Stratocaster he played at the 1965 Newport Folk Festival sold at auction today for $965,000


Bob Dylan's Iconic 1965 Guitar Up For Sale (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzb0FHsJJzI#ws)


Bob Dylan Newport Festival (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbn_rKAW28U#)



(http://recordmecca.com/rmsite/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/guitar-at-newport-history-detectives.png)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 07, 2013, 02:08:51 AM
Bob Dylan asks for an E harmonica (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Juyh2fQufJI#)

I wonder how much that E harmonica is worth.  ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on December 07, 2013, 03:02:20 AM
Y'all forgot about Bob Dylan, huh?  Well, the Fender Stratocaster he played at the 1965 Newport Folk Festival sold at auction today for $965,000


I haven't forgotten. That's why this is on the way (slowly but surely):
(http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee372/KelMar1963/BOBDYLANBOB__.jpg) (http://s1224.photobucket.com/user/KelMar1963/media/BOBDYLANBOB__.jpg.html)

The Stratocaster will have to wait until we go electric.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 07, 2013, 03:14:30 AM
^

Ah!  His daybyoo album.  I reckon John Lennon got this idea from that...


(http://eil.com/images/main/John+Lennon+-+In+His+Own+Write+-+HANDBILL%2FPAPER+GOODS-369167.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 07, 2013, 05:03:35 AM
The Beatles- 02- Norwegian Wood (2009 Mono Remaster) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG-ia0NV8Ts#)


Fourth Time Around (1966-05-16 Sheffield) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQelFqtKUfo#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 07, 2013, 07:25:23 AM
Despite the rumours, John Lennon and Bob Dylan were good friends.  Here they are in the back seat of a cab in 1966...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5YLdHG83U0#t=406 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5YLdHG83U0#t=406)




A little later on...


John Lennon and Bob Dylan - BEST FRIENDS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgKICX_Ca98#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 07, 2013, 07:29:31 AM
OK, here's the real Part 2 of that conversation...


BOB DYLAN AND JOHN LENNON IN LONDON PT2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z46kZ2EWUOs#)


Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: oldbrownshoe on December 08, 2013, 07:51:48 PM
I like Bob - I like his era - I like his folk stuff - I like his electric stuff.
However, I've come to the opinion that in his case, 'less is definitely more', and that no one needs 'all' of Bob's albums.

I'm moving to the country soon (sounds like the opening line to a folk song!) and I'm in the process of severely trimming the record collection.
Much of Bob's back catalogue has had to go to the Charity Shop, I'm afraid.
I've got it down to 'Another Side of Bob Dylan' (my favourite of his records), 'John Wesley Harding' and 'Nashville Skyline', and it's been like shedding a couple of skins. I also find that I enjoy the three I have kept much more than I used to!

Thus, I contend that no one really needs more than three Bob Dylan albums!
Of course, others may disagree.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Ovi on December 08, 2013, 08:35:23 PM
Interesting choices you got there, oldbrownshoe. I think many people would probably reach for Highway 61, Blonde on Blonde, Freewheelin' and Blood on the Tracks before any of those 3 albums, but I'm a big fan of them as well.

I don't think I could humanly limit myself to only listen to 3 Dylan records for the rest of my life, but if I was FORCED to, I think I'd pick Blonde on Blonde, John Wesley Harding and Bootleg Series 4: Live '66 at "Royal Albert Hall'.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 09, 2013, 02:46:52 AM
I don't think I could humanly limit myself to only listen to 3 Dylan records for the rest of my life, but if I was FORCED to, I think I'd pick Blonde on Blonde, John Wesley Harding and Bootleg Series 4: Live '66 at "Royal Albert Hall'.

Right.  And if I were allowed only one, it would be Blonde On Blonde.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on December 09, 2013, 03:50:47 AM
In my case, I need the 9 albums I mentioned before; but this would be my ranking, more or less:

1. The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan
2. Bringing It All Back Home
3. Highway 61 Revisited
4. Blonde On Blonde
5. John Wesley Harding
6. Another Side Of Bob Dylan
7. Nashville Skyline
8. New Morning
9. The Times They Are A-Changin'
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Ovi on December 09, 2013, 11:08:49 AM
Right.  And if I were allowed only one, it would be Blonde On Blonde.

Same here. One of the greatest albums ever recorded; the Dylan encyclopedia in all its might.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Ovi on December 09, 2013, 11:22:25 AM
I love listening to John Wesley Harding right after Blonde on Blonde, the effect is staggering. By Dylan standards, they're opposite in almost every possible way - long vs short, warm vs cold, instrumental variation vs instrumental conservatism, otherworldly lyrics vs down-to-earth lyrics etc., yet they're equally emotional and powerful (but again, in different ways). A similar effect is The Who's Quadrophenia followed by Who By Numbers.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 11, 2013, 06:29:52 AM
Same here. One of the greatest albums ever recorded; the Dylan encyclopedia in all its might.

And it's a double album.  ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on December 11, 2013, 07:51:20 PM
^

Ah!  His daybyoo album.
 

It daybyooed here for me today! I certainly didn't need the sticker on the front (whose residue I'm still trying to remove) to tell me that it's an epiphanous daybyoo album, especially considering this definition of ephiphany: a moment in which you suddenly see or understand something in a new or very clear way.

Quote
I reckon John Lennon got this idea from that...

Right down to the open snap! I once saw a hat like that at an auction. After I looked at it and decided it was too big for my head I sat down and heard the lady behind me say to her husband, "You know, John Lennon used to wear a hat like that". Of course that was like an open invitation to turn around and talk to her. We all had a nice chat but I regret that I didn't bid on that hat anyway.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 12, 2013, 11:25:15 PM
It daybyooed here for me today!

The word is daybyooted.




Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on December 13, 2013, 01:41:53 AM
The word is daybyooted.

I'm still learning the language.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 13, 2013, 02:36:16 AM
I'm still learning the language.


(http://folkfanlcb89.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/saluting.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on December 13, 2013, 02:43:04 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Ovi on December 15, 2013, 01:32:59 PM
Just got his debut (I refuse to say daybyoo!) and gave it 2 listens. Really liked it - was expecting it to be much more formal and uninteresting. Both 'In My Time Of Dying' and 'House of Rising Sun' have struck me as amazing and 'Freight Train Blues' has got to be one of the funniest things I've heard lately.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on December 15, 2013, 08:22:28 PM
Just got his debut (I refuse to say daybyoo!) and gave it 2 listens. Really liked it - was expecting it to be much more formal and uninteresting. Both 'In My Time Of Dying' and 'House of Rising Sun' have struck me as amazing and 'Freight Train Blues' has got to be one of the funniest things I've heard lately.

I originally wanted to buy this because of "Talkin' New York" but when I was ordering it and saw that "House of the Rising Sun" was on it I was doubly excited. Every time I hear that track I like it more.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 15, 2013, 11:51:20 PM
(I refuse to say daybyoo!)

Ya just did.   :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 16, 2013, 01:39:15 AM
I originally wanted to buy this because of "Talkin' New York" but when I was ordering it and saw that "House of the Rising Sun" was on it I was doubly excited. Every time I hear that track I like it more.


In the words of Bob Dylan and Dave Von Ronk...

"No Direction Home" - Bob Dylan House of The Rising Sun [1080p] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LgFHGBu8NY#ws)




House Of The Rising Sun

Dave Van Ronk - House Of The Rising Sun (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX2ZYLTGu4E#)
Dave Von Ronk   1964

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 16, 2013, 02:05:25 AM
Riding In My Car (Car Song)

Bob Dylan & Dave Van Ronk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVUCZQyWwEM#)
Bob Dylan and Dave Von Ronk



Riding In My Car (Car Song)

Woody Guthrie - Car Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUDtFdnn9oQ#)
Woody Guthrie   1944

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 29, 2013, 05:47:00 AM
So, Blind Reverend Gary Davis taught Ian Buchanan You're Gonna Quit Me Baby in the late 1950s...


You're Going To Quit Me, Baby (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jODinQlQtLE#)




And Ian taught it to me in 1972...


You're Gonna Quit Me Baby - Ian Buchanan 1972 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4D-V8a8TuM#)





Bob Dylan performed it in 1993...


Bob Dylan - You're Gonna Quit Me (1993) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wk0xWmx9qA#)




Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 29, 2013, 06:11:12 AM
Ah!  Bob Dylan's blues phase...


(http://floydcouncil.com/uploads/3/0/0/8/3008945/7729751.jpg?426)


(http://morgenbladet.no/sites/default/files/imagecache/artikkel_hovedbilde/MO201110110519997AR.jpg)


Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on December 29, 2013, 06:12:47 AM
Bob Dylan met Reverend Gary Davis in 1962...


(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_vP_OGepX6c/T-6zpp5ogTI/AAAAAAAANxc/mjjTIKLos7s/s1600/with_Rev_Gary_Davis_1962_bw.jpg)


Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on April 15, 2014, 05:45:24 PM
In the words of Bob Dylan and Dave Von Ronk...

That's interesting. And speaking of interesting so is Dave Von Ronk's voice. I like it and how he did House of the Rising Sun. I can see why Dylan used his version.


For the last several days I've had
"Turned on my record player—
It was Rock-a-day Johnny singin’, “Tell Your Ma, Tell Your Pa
Our Love’s A-gonna Grow Ooh-wah, Ooh-wah”
stuck in my head. I love that line but I was kind of disappointed to discover that the only Rock-a-day Johnnys I could find on Google was a puppet and Elton John, who was credited that way on a Jackson Browne album. I thought there was a new-to-me artist to discover!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: oldbrownshoe on April 15, 2014, 07:03:56 PM
In this month's Mojo two people (one of the guys from Penn & Teller, and Beverley Martyn) chose a Bob Dylan LP as their favourite record. Nothing too strange in that until you discover that they were 'Tempest' (2012) and 'Infidels' (1983) respectively.

Now I'm all for an appreciation (not TOO BIG an appreciation) of Dylan's career, but are these choices down to respecting the guy's career rather than actually thinking that a 1983 Bob Dylan LP could actually be his best album or even the best album ever?

I've noticed in those Uncut/Mojo Specials that anyone with a long career always has classic records liberally spread across their career, almost as a justification for the magazine itself, but surely Dylan's worst LP of the 60s (which these magazines might lead you to think would be the 1st LP, Another Side or Nashville Skyline) wipes the floor with Oh Mercy or Time Out Of Mind or Infidels or Tempest?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: nimrod on April 15, 2014, 09:36:25 PM
In this month's Mojo two people (one of the guys from Penn & Teller, and Beverley Martyn) chose a Bob Dylan LP as their favourite record. Nothing too strange in that until you discover that they were 'Tempest' (2012) and 'Infidels' (1983) respectively.

Now I'm all for an appreciation (not TOO BIG an appreciation) of Dylan's career, but are these choices down to respecting the guy's career rather than actually thinking that a 1983 Bob Dylan LP could actually be his best album or even the best album ever?

I've noticed in those Uncut/Mojo Specials that anyone with a long career always has classic records liberally spread across their career, almost as a justification for the magazine itself, but surely Dylan's worst LP of the 60s (which these magazines might lead you to think would be the 1st LP, Another Side or Nashville Skyline) wipes the floor with Oh Mercy or Time Out Of Mind or Infidels or Tempest?

AS any art form music is subjective, we all have our favourites.

My favourite Dylan albums are;

Blood On The Tracks
Time Out Of Mind
Blonde On Blonde

I like others but those are my favourites.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Moogmodule on April 16, 2014, 09:10:00 AM
In this month's Mojo two people (one of the guys from Penn & Teller, and Beverley Martyn) chose a Bob Dylan LP as their favourite record. Nothing too strange in that until you discover that they were 'Tempest' (2012) and 'Infidels' (1983) respectively.

Now I'm all for an appreciation (not TOO BIG an appreciation) of Dylan's career, but are these choices down to respecting the guy's career rather than actually thinking that a 1983 Bob Dylan LP could actually be his best album or even the best album ever?

I've noticed in those Uncut/Mojo Specials that anyone with a long career always has classic records liberally spread across their career, almost as a justification for the magazine itself, but surely Dylan's worst LP of the 60s (which these magazines might lead you to think would be the 1st LP, Another Side or Nashville Skyline) wipes the floor with Oh Mercy or Time Out Of Mind or Infidels or Tempest?

I quite like Infidels. At the time it was seen as Dylan recovering from his Christian period. Sweetheart Like You and Jokerman still stand up to me. But I think it's hard to beat Blonde on Blonde, Highway 61 Revisited, John Wesley Harding, Blood on the Tracks etc


Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: oldbrownshoe on April 16, 2014, 01:35:00 PM
I get the music being subjective line, but I'm sticking to the opinion that the 60s LPs win on every single level (including design and how the LPs were actually made) over the post-60s material with, I'm prepared to acknowledge, the exception of Blood On The Tracks.

In some bizarre marking system one of the 'specials' gave Oh Mercy, and its awful production, 5-stars, while Nashville Skyline was given 3-stars. Yeah, right, of course!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Ovi on April 16, 2014, 04:21:21 PM
In this month's Mojo two people (one of the guys from Penn & Teller, and Beverley Martyn) chose a Bob Dylan LP as their favourite record. Nothing too strange in that until you discover that they were 'Tempest' (2012) and 'Infidels' (1983) respectively.

Now I'm all for an appreciation (not TOO BIG an appreciation) of Dylan's career, but are these choices down to respecting the guy's career rather than actually thinking that a 1983 Bob Dylan LP could actually be his best album or even the best album ever?

I've noticed in those Uncut/Mojo Specials that anyone with a long career always has classic records liberally spread across their career, almost as a justification for the magazine itself, but surely Dylan's worst LP of the 60s (which these magazines might lead you to think would be the 1st LP, Another Side or Nashville Skyline) wipes the floor with Oh Mercy or Time Out Of Mind or Infidels or Tempest?

A good album is a good album, regardless of the year and decade it was released in. I was told that Paul McCartney stopped making relevant music in the 80's. Bought Chaos and Creation In The Backyard and it has became one of my favourite albums ever, an by-the-book example of how a legend in his 60's should approach music-making. Perfectly adequate, not forced in the slightest, highly emotional. Who cares if the album didn't have much impact on the contemporary musical scene? An album doesn't have to start a revolution in order to be great.

Too many people are too obsessed with the little rules and criterias critics and magazines tried to attach to rock 'n' roll. Music ain't got no rules, that's what makes it great. It may be absurd that Paul McCartney or any other dinosaur can kick so much ass at this age, but such is reality, imperfect and unexpected. There is no book of rules saying that he should stop making music after he reached his peak. Likewise, Chaos and Creation doesn't diminish in the least his great work with The Beatles, or the rest of his solo career. It's all great music, listen and stop over-analyzing. In my opinion.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Moogmodule on April 17, 2014, 12:24:18 AM
A good album is a good album, regardless of the year and decade it was released in. I was told that Paul McCartney stopped making relevant music in the 80's. Bought Chaos and Creation In The Backyard and it has became one of my favourite albums ever, an by-the-book example of how a legend in his 60's should approach music-making. Perfectly adequate, not forced in the slightest, highly emotional. Who cares if the album didn't have much impact on the contemporary musical scene? An album doesn't have to start a revolution in order to be great.

Too many people are too obsessed with the little rules and criterias critics and magazines tried to attach to rock 'n' roll. Music ain't got no rules, that's what makes it great. It may be absurd that Paul McCartney or any other dinosaur can kick so much ass at this age, but such is reality, imperfect and unexpected. There is no book of rules saying that he should stop making music after he reached his peak. Likewise, Chaos and Creation doesn't diminish in the least his great work with The Beatles, or the rest of his solo career. It's all great music, listen and stop over-analyzing. In my opinion.

Good points Ovi. I'd say similarly about George's Brainwashed. Certainly ranks ahead of most of his solo albums and more enjoyable than quite a bit of his Beatle work.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: oldbrownshoe on April 17, 2014, 06:44:05 AM
'Perfectly adequate' eh? I'm playing Eddie Cochran at the moment and I hope he'll never be described as 'perfectly adequate'!

I'd say the over analysis lays more with those who persevere with stuff that plainly is not as good as the 50s/60s material.
'Chaos' was fine (the cover photograph was great), but I'd suggest it has lay dormant in most people's collections for at least five years. Knowing I wouldn't ever listen to it again I actually gave my copy and its attendant singles (all bought on the day of release) to the charity shop.
It's not that's it's bad, like Infidels and the like it's just not particularly exciting. It's, as you say, perfectly adequate.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Moogmodule on April 18, 2014, 03:22:02 AM
'Perfectly adequate' eh? I'm playing Eddie Cochran at the moment and I hope he'll never be described as 'perfectly adequate'!

I'd say the over analysis lays more with those who persevere with stuff that plainly is not as good as the 50s/60s material.
'Chaos' was fine (the cover photograph was great), but I'd suggest it has lay dormant in most people's collections for at least five years. Knowing I wouldn't ever listen to it again I actually gave my copy and its attendant singles (all bought on the day of release) to the charity shop.
It's not that's it's bad, like Infidels and the like it's just not particularly exciting. It's, as you say, perfectly adequate.

I think it can depend on whether you're talking about albums that you're going to sit down and listen to all the way through or individual songs. Sure given the choice I'll usually put on a Beatles album versus a whole Macca or George. Similarly I'd spin John Wesley Harding rather than Empire Burlesque. But, on the other hand, at the level of individual songs I'd put Calico Sky by Macca on a playlist rather than Rocky Racoon, George's Vatican Blues rather than Blue Jay Way or Dylan's Dark Eyes before The Ballad of Frankie Lee and Judas Priest.

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: oldbrownshoe on April 18, 2014, 06:16:35 AM
Fair enough, I'll go with that Moogmodule.
Back to Mojo, this was the readers' Top 10 Dylan 60s LPs this month......

1. Highway 61 Revisited
2. Freewheelin'
3. Bringing It All Back Home
4. Blonde on Blonde
5. 'Albert Hall'
6. Another Side
7. 1st LP
8. The Times They Are A-Changin'
9. John Wesley Harding (not as good as his debut? OK!)
10. Nashville Skyline

I take a certain pride that my favourite Dylan LP (of all, not just the 60s) was last! I must be doing something right.
Remember this was the mag that omitted 'Prophets' and 'Unicorn' from a Marc Bolan list in preference to his dire later stuff, and, if memory serves, Fairport Convention's first 2 LPs from their Top 10.

 


Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Moogmodule on April 18, 2014, 06:58:14 AM
Fair enough, I'll go with that Moogmodule.
Back to Mojo, this was the readers' Top 10 Dylan 60s LPs this month......

1. Highway 61 Revisited
2. Freewheelin'
3. Bringing It All Back Home
4. Blonde on Blonde
5. 'Albert Hall'
6. Another Side
7. 1st LP
8. The Times They Are A-Changin'
9. John Wesley Harding (not as good as his debut? OK!)
10. Nashville Skyline

I take a certain pride that my favourite Dylan LP (of all, not just the 60s) was last! I must be doing something right.
Remember this was the mag that omitted 'Prophets' and 'Unicorn' from a Marc Bolan list in preference to his dire later stuff, and, if memory serves, Fairport Convention's first 2 LPs from their Top 10.

That's such a great group of albums. I'd rate John Wesley Harding higher. Always loved that record.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Ovi on April 19, 2014, 11:53:32 AM
Fair enough, I'll go with that Moogmodule.
Back to Mojo, this was the readers' Top 10 Dylan 60s LPs this month......

1. Highway 61 Revisited
2. Freewheelin'
3. Bringing It All Back Home
4. Blonde on Blonde
5. 'Albert Hall'
6. Another Side
7. 1st LP
8. The Times They Are A-Changin'
9. John Wesley Harding (not as good as his debut? OK!)
10. Nashville Skyline

I take a certain pride that my favourite Dylan LP (of all, not just the 60s) was last! I must be doing something right.
Remember this was the mag that omitted 'Prophets' and 'Unicorn' from a Marc Bolan list in preference to his dire later stuff, and, if memory serves, Fairport Convention's first 2 LPs from their Top 10.

My top:

1. Live at 'Royal Albert Hall' '66
2. John Wesley Harding
3. Blonde on Blonde
4. Highway 61 Revisited
5. Basement Tapes
6. Bringing It All Back Home
7. Live at the Philharmonic Hall '64
8. Freewheelin'
9. Another Side
10. Nashville Skyline
11. Times They Are A-Changin'
12. Bob Dylan

They're all amazing though.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: oldbrownshoe on April 19, 2014, 07:21:45 PM
It might because I'm ever so slightly happy over Chelsea losing at home to Sunderland, but I'm seriously thinking of trimming my Dylan collection from Nashville Skyline, John Wesley Harding and Another Side of Bob Dylan to.....erm.....Nashville Skyline.
I mean, when EVERYONE loves Bob Dylan (see also David Bowie), where's the fun?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: nimrod on April 19, 2014, 11:49:52 PM
Bob Dylan has the honour of giving the worst big name concert Ive even been too, I was on holiday in the UK in the late nineties and a friend dragged me to Gmex to see him for nearly a hundred pounds.
He never said a word and changed the melody of nearly every song, only the words stayed the same (ish)

I thought it was absolute crap, no relationship with the audience or attempt to create one at all

Donovan & Neil Young were a thousand times better when I saw them (Donovan being the best)

Ive never really liked him since
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on April 20, 2014, 12:28:09 AM
Ive never really liked him since

I can understand that Kevin. When I've heard some of his live recordings I often think that he wasn't really trying very hard and that paying big bucks to hear that would p*ss a person off! But from my perspective, as a CD or album buyer, I feel I've gotten my money's worth. I just really enjoy the way he has with words and his playing too.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: nimrod on April 20, 2014, 02:10:27 AM
I can understand that Kevin. When I've heard some of his live recordings I often think that he wasn't really trying very hard and that paying big bucks to hear that would p*ss a person off! But from my perspective, as a CD or album buyer, I feel I've gotten my money's worth. I just really enjoy the way he has with words and his playing too.


yeah no doubting his talent at all

when I saw Donovan he just sat cross legged in the front/middle of the stage and told little stories interspersed with songs, when you see him live he is a great singer with such a pure voice, him and an acoustic guitar is all that's needed, he was mesmeric.

Like this

Donovan in Concert - Catch The Wind (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-c9sr_qF8I#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Moogmodule on April 20, 2014, 03:15:14 AM
Bob Dylan has the honour of giving the worst big name concert Ive even been too, I was on holiday in the UK in the late nineties and a friend dragged me to Gmex to see him for nearly a hundred pounds.
He never said a word and changed the melody of nearly every song, only the words stayed the same (ish)

I thought it was absolute crap, no relationship with the audience or attempt to create one at all

Donovan & Neil Young were a thousand times better when I saw them (Donovan being the best)

Ive never really liked him since

I had a similar Dylan experience. I caught him in Oz when he toured with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers as his backing band. The rockier songs he just howled some approximation of the melody. His acoustic set was much better. He sings more softly and usually a bit truer to the original. But there is no sense of performing for an audience. You'd think he couldn't care if we were there or not. So I stick to his recordings which are great. Never want to own a live album though.

Donovan was a much better experience. I saw him at the opera house in 82. Great performer, a stronger voice than sometimes comes over on record and really  seems to enjoy the audience interaction. He's very underrated these days.

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 20, 2014, 03:24:17 AM
He never said a word and changed the melody of nearly every song, only the words stayed the same (ish)

I thought it was absolute crap, no relationship with the audience or attempt to create one at all

But there is no sense of performing for an audience. You'd think he couldn't care if we were there or not.

He was being enigmatic.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on April 20, 2014, 04:54:50 AM

when I saw Donovan he just sat cross legged in the front/middle of the stage and told little stories interspersed with songs, when you see him live he is a great singer with such a pure voice, him and an acoustic guitar is all that's needed, he was mesmeric.


I'm sure that was a great concert. What a gentle soul; a true embodiment of the sixties' spirit. I'm glad you got to see him.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: oldbrownshoe on April 20, 2014, 07:33:24 AM
Dylan's not unique in this casual, carefree delivery of a back catalogue.

The Stones (and Jagger especially) effectively 'put the cue on the rack' in about 1972.
It's not about being true to the song any more, it's about being seen from a distance, with a huge logo as a backdrop, a fully-stocked merchandise stall, and getting the live CD (soon to be replaced by the extended, and then the extended deluxe CD) in the shops or on-line as soon as possible.

The clever money is to drop down a division (ironically, the same is true of football - Brentford is a far more enjoyable experience than Chelsea in 2014) and seeing the likes of Donovan etc., or in my case in June, Linda Perhacs. That's where you'll be more likely to see and hear the spirit of the 60s, not at a big football stadium. 
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: nimrod on April 20, 2014, 07:51:55 AM
I'm sure that was a great concert. What a gentle soul; a true embodiment of the sixties' spirit. I'm glad you got to see him.

Yes, I remember watching Donovan (as you can see in the youtube) I actually think he could hypnotise you he's so mesmeric

I came away feeling very happy with the world

unlike a**hole Bob, I came away wanting my 100 pounds back  roll:)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Fab4Fan on April 20, 2014, 11:50:58 PM
My top:

1. Live at 'Royal Albert Hall' '66
2. John Wesley Harding
3. Blonde on Blonde
4. Highway 61 Revisited
5. Basement Tapes
6. Bringing It All Back Home
7. Live at the Philharmonic Hall '64
8. Freewheelin'
9. Another Side
10. Nashville Skyline
11. Times They Are A-Changin'
12. Bob Dylan

They're all amazing though.

To add another fan's perspective, my top 3 are:

1. Blood On The Tracks
2. Slow Train Coming
3. Live at Budokan
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Moogmodule on April 21, 2014, 12:36:40 AM
To add another fan's perspective, my top 3 are:

1. Blood On The Tracks
2. Slow Train Coming
3. Live at Budokan

I see Budokan get mentioned a lot. As I said earlier Dylan's idiosyncratic approach to performing his own material has made me reluctant to get into his live recordings. Is this one different or just an example if it coming off better than usual?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on May 03, 2014, 02:27:31 AM
I see Budokan get mentioned a lot. As I said earlier Dylan's idiosyncratic approach to performing his own material has made me reluctant to get into his live recordings. Is this one different or just an example if it coming off better than usual?

It's kind of lackluster, Moog, but better than later live performances.  I don't know why he messes up some of his great original recordings the way he does.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Moogmodule on May 03, 2014, 02:34:11 AM
It's kind of lackluster, Moog, but better than later live performances.  I don't know why he messes up some of his great original recordings the way he does.

He's an enigma wrapped in a something wrapped in another something.

I'm happy listening to his studio albums anyway.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on May 03, 2014, 02:52:25 AM
Me too, Moog.  I like the 1966 Royal Albert Hall performance though...

Visions Of Johanna

https://vimeo.com/63997505 (https://vimeo.com/63997505)



I also like how he tells the band to "Play it f***ing loud!" and then flips off whoever that was in the audience who yelled "Judas!"


Bob Dylan (Judas) Like a Rolling Stone 1966 Londres Acervo: Cláudio Cruz) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxeMD8puDt4#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Moogmodule on May 03, 2014, 02:59:02 AM
Me too, Moog.  I like the 1966 Royal Albert Hall performance though...

Visions Of Johanna


I also like how he tells the band to "Play it f***ing loud!" and then flips off whoever that was in the audience who yelled "Judas!"


That is a great concert moment.

That's a lovely version of Visions of Johanna. Haven't heard that.

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on May 03, 2014, 03:16:20 AM
That's a lovely version of Visions of Johanna. Haven't heard that.


It's on the Live 1966 "The Royal Albert Hall Concert" The Bootleg Series Vol. 4 CD Set

So is Desolation Row...


Bob Dylan - Desolation Row - The Bootleg Series, Vol. 4 : Bob Dylan Live 1966 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35gheud5xBo#)


You'd like that CD set.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on May 03, 2014, 03:23:41 AM
The Bootleg Series Vol. 4: Bob Dylan Live 1966, The "Royal Albert Hall" Concert

Disc 1 (solo acoustic)
1."She Belongs to Me" – 3:27
2."4th Time Around" – 4:37
3."Visions of Johanna" – 8:08
4."It's All Over Now, Baby Blue" – 5:45
5."Desolation Row" – 11:31
6."Just Like a Woman" – 5:52
7."Mr. Tambourine Man" – 8:52

Disc 2 (with The Hawks)
8."Tell Me Momma" – 5:10
9."I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met)" – 6:07
10."Baby, Let Me Follow You Down" (Eric von Schmidt. Arr. Dylan) – 3:46
11."Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues" – 6:50
12."Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat" – 4:50
13."One Too Many Mornings" – 4:22
14."Ballad of a Thin Man" – 7:55
15."Like a Rolling Stone" – 8:01


The Hawks
Rick Danko – bass guitar, vocal
Garth Hudson – organ
Mickey Jones – drums
Richard Manuel – piano
Robbie Robertson – electric guitar
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Moogmodule on May 03, 2014, 05:30:34 AM
The Bootleg Series Vol. 4: Bob Dylan Live 1966, The "Royal Albert Hall" Concert

Disc 1 (solo acoustic)
1."She Belongs to Me" – 3:27
2."4th Time Around" – 4:37
3."Visions of Johanna" – 8:08
4."It's All Over Now, Baby Blue" – 5:45
5."Desolation Row" – 11:31
6."Just Like a Woman" – 5:52
7."Mr. Tambourine Man" – 8:52
 ;)
Disc 2 (with The Hawks)
8."Tell Me Momma" – 5:10
9."I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met)" – 6:07
10."Baby, Let Me Follow You Down" (Eric von Schmidt. Arr. Dylan) – 3:46
11."Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues" – 6:50
12."Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat" – 4:50
13."One Too Many Mornings" – 4:22
14."Ballad of a Thin Man" – 7:55
15."Like a Rolling Stone" – 8:01


The Hawks
Rick Danko – bass guitar, vocal
Garth Hudson – organ
Mickey Jones – drums
Richard Manuel – piano
Robbie Robertson – electric guitar

Ta. And even available on itunes. Bootlegs aren't what they used to be  ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Fab4Fan on May 04, 2014, 11:01:15 PM
I see Budokan get mentioned a lot. As I said earlier Dylan's idiosyncratic approach to performing his own material has made me reluctant to get into his live recordings. Is this one different or just an example if it coming off better than usual?

Sorry, moog, that it's taken some time for me to reply.  In my opinion, it's a little bit of both.  He's in good form vocally and the band is in top form.  He does change around some of the arrangements but it seems to be in an effort to keep the songs rolling along at an uptempo pace.  I really think he did a great job with Mr. Tambourine Man (with a soaring flute accompaniment no less!) and I love his reggae inflected "Don't Think Twice It's Alright".  His performance of "Like A Rolling Stone" is stellar to my ears (and the guitar solo building to a sax crescendo is awesome).  One of my favorite moments is when he introduces "Is Your Love In Vain?" by saying, "Here's an unrecorded song. See if you can guess which one it is."

I'd load some of the tracks here but I'm not sure how to link them from my pc's media player.  If anyone would like to share some pointers, I'd be happy to add some tracks.  :-[


Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: oldbrownshoe on May 06, 2014, 07:16:13 PM
I saw 'Blonde on Blonde' in a supermarket for £3 at the weekend, i.e. less than a pint of beer.

It got me wondering how many pints of beer would have to have been sacrificed to buy the original double-LP in '66?
I'm going for about 20, but if anyone can give the actual answer.....
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Moogmodule on May 06, 2014, 09:00:04 PM
Sorry, moog, that it's taken some time for me to reply.  In my opinion, it's a little bit of both.  He's in good form vocally and the band is in top form.  He does change around some of the arrangements but it seems to be in an effort to keep the songs rolling along at an uptempo pace.  I really think he did a great job with Mr. Tambourine Man (with a soaring flute accompaniment no less!) and I love his reggae inflected "Don't Think Twice It's Alright".  His performance of "Like A Rolling Stone" is stellar to my ears (and the guitar solo building to a sax crescendo is awesome).  One of my favorite moments is when he introduces "Is Your Love In Vain?" by saying, "Here's an unrecorded song. See if you can guess which one it is."

I'd load some of the tracks here but I'm not sure how to link them from my pc's media player.  If anyone would like to share some pointers, I'd be happy to add some tracks.  :-[

Thanks for that review Fab4fan. I think I recall hearing a couple of the tracks you mention and in the deep dark recesses of my memory I think I had a cassette tape of at least some of the songs.  I might give some if the highlights you mention a relisten.

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on May 06, 2014, 09:21:57 PM
I saw 'Blonde on Blonde' in a supermarket for  at the weekend, i.e. less than a pint of beer.

It got me wondering how many pints of beer would have to have been sacrificed to buy the original double-LP in '66?
I'm going for about 20, but if anyone can give the actual answer.....

I bought my stereo Blonde On Blonde double LP in 1966.  I remember 45s being 75 cents and stereo LPs selling for $3.50 (50 cents less for mono).  So my best guess is that I paid about $6.50 for Blonde On Blonde.  The exchange rate in those days was £1 =  4 USD
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on May 06, 2014, 09:42:52 PM
Thanks for that review Fab4fan. I think I recall hearing a couple of the tracks you mention and in the deep dark recesses of my memory I think I had a cassette tape of at least some of the songs.  I might give some if the highlights you mention a relisten.


You can refresh your memory here, Moog:  http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_seeall_13?rh=k%3Abob+dylan+Live+at+Budokan%2Ci%3Adigital-music&keywords=bob+dylan+Live+at+Budokan&ie=UTF8&qid=1399412194 (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_seeall_13?rh=k%3Abob+dylan+Live+at+Budokan%2Ci%3Adigital-music&keywords=bob+dylan+Live+at+Budokan&ie=UTF8&qid=1399412194)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Moogmodule on May 06, 2014, 10:46:52 PM
You can refresh your memory here, Moog:  [url]http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_seeall_13?rh=k%3Abob+dylan+Live+at+Budokan%2Ci%3Adigital-music&keywords=bob+dylan+Live+at+Budokan&ie=UTF8&qid=1399412194[/url] ([url]http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_seeall_13?rh=k%3Abob+dylan+Live+at+Budokan%2Ci%3Adigital-music&keywords=bob+dylan+Live+at+Budokan&ie=UTF8&qid=1399412194[/url])


Ta muchly HG
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on May 06, 2014, 11:26:02 PM
And you can preview the The Bootleg Series Vol. 4: Bob Dylan Live 1966, The "Royal Albert Hall" Concert CD set here:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Bootleg-Series-Vol-Concert/dp/B00000D9TO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1399418511&sr=8-1&keywords=bob+dylan+royal+albert+hall (http://www.amazon.com/The-Bootleg-Series-Vol-Concert/dp/B00000D9TO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1399418511&sr=8-1&keywords=bob+dylan+royal+albert+hall)

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: oldbrownshoe on May 07, 2014, 06:40:24 AM
Nice one Hello Goodbye.
So if 'Blonde on Blonde' retailed for about £1.60, and a pint in old money was about 9p, that's 18 pints!

£1.60 is also considerably more than a West Ham game would have cost in 1966.
In 2014 the cheapest West Ham adult ticket is a staggering £42, and yet a newly released Coldplay or U2 CD will probably be £6 in Tesco's.   

I suggest that pop music was more cherished in the 50s and 60s as a result.
We know for instance that it wasn't uncommon for someone of Paul or John's age being able to recite whole sleeve notes of a Chuck or Buddy LP, purely because they probably all only owned about 3 albums!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on May 10, 2014, 05:45:55 AM
Records were expensive then.  It took me three weeks of delivering newspapers to earn enough to buy a single LP.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Moogmodule on May 10, 2014, 05:50:52 AM
Nice one Hello Goodbye.
So if 'Blonde on Blonde' retailed for about £1.60, and a pint in old money was about 9p, that's 18 pints!

£1.60 is also considerably more than a West Ham game would have cost in 1966.
In 2014 the cheapest West Ham adult ticket is a staggering £42, and yet a newly released Coldplay or U2 CD will probably be £6 in Tesco's.   

I suggest that pop music was more cherished in the 50s and 60s as a result.
We know for instance that it wasn't uncommon for someone of Paul or John's age being able to recite whole sleeve notes of a Chuck or Buddy LP, purely because they probably all only owned about 3 albums!

I think you're right. New records were Christmas and birthday things in our house in the late sixties and early seventies. And any bought for themselves were a significant outlay from part time jobs for my older brothers.

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Moogmodule on May 10, 2014, 05:53:19 AM
Records were expensive then.  It took me three weeks of delivering newspapers to earn enough to buy a single LP.

Even in the early 80s when I first started full time work a record in Oz was I think $10 to $20 dollars. Quite a chunk out of $100 a week. Then when CDs came out in the late 80s they were $30 a pop.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: oldbrownshoe on May 10, 2014, 07:11:12 AM
CDs were staggeringly expensive in the 1980s and, with back catalogue LPs by the likes of Love, Dylan and The Doors retailing at £3.49 at that time, it's no surprise that many of us were reluctant to switch.
The Beatles' releases in 1987 being the catalyst for many people to take the plunge, of course, though I didn't until 1997. 

I bought a jobbing, not particularly exciting, Percy Sledge compilation a few years ago from about 1988 for 99p in Oxfam. The original sticker on the CD gave the price as £17.99! 
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on May 19, 2014, 10:52:06 PM
From his upcoming album "Shadows in the Night,"  Bob Dylan covers Frank Sinatra's Full Moon and Empty Arms...


Bob Dylan - "Full Moon and Empty Arms" (Frank Sinatra Cover) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNy4CPyFbIs#ws)


FRANK SINATRA - Full Moon and Empty Arms 1945 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKsdCtsRczY#ws)
Frank Sinatra   1945





It's based on Sergei Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto No. 2, 3rd movement...


Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto No. 2, 3rd movement (Part 1) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlmcctFqa-U#)
3:20
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on May 19, 2014, 11:04:33 PM
Bob Dylan The Times They Are A Changin' 1964 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7qQ6_RV4VQ#)


A Hard Rains Gonna Fall {Live at Town Hall 1963} - Elston Gunn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ex-m-eEKsg#)


Mr. Tambourine Man (Live at the Newport Folk Festival. 1964) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeP4FFr88SQ#)



Yes.  Fifty years have passed.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on May 19, 2014, 11:13:20 PM
From the Nashville Sessions...


Blue Moon

Blue Moon 2 - Bob Dylan - Nashville Sessions (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuEBLltOgek#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: oldbrownshoe on May 21, 2014, 04:50:43 PM
Dylan came over to London in the winter of '62/'63 (the coldest winter on record in the UK!) to do the BBC play and he certainly played some of the pubs/folk clubs in London then, though I don't know if they'd be termed concerts as such.

You won't mind if I knock Dylan doing Sinatra on the head.
I've come this far without ever buying a Sinatra record (apart from Nancy) and I don't plan to start now.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on May 21, 2014, 05:33:50 PM
You won't mind if I knock Dylan doing Sinatra on the head.
I've come this far without ever buying a Sinatra record (apart from Nancy) and I don't plan to start now.


I don't know why Bob Dylan did that.  Maybe he's going into his Crooning Phase...


(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1510544/thumbs/o-FRANKSINATRA-570.jpg?8)   (http://www.bobdylan.com/sites/bdylan/files/shadows-cover-new.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on May 21, 2014, 09:49:24 PM
I've come this far without ever buying a Sinatra record (apart from Nancy) and I don't plan to start now.


Ha!


Nancy Sinatra - These Boots Are Made for Walkin' (1966) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnQcExGaEvk#)



 ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on May 22, 2014, 10:28:25 PM
^

The best part of that video is 0.52 - 0.57    ;)


Yeah, Nancy was cool alright...


It Ain't Me Babe - Bob Dylan (5/4/65) Bootleg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d8o8vNTNao#ws)


Nancy Sinatra - It Ain't Me Babe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhqryh-PooE#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on July 05, 2014, 04:53:13 AM
The Turtles - It Ain't Me Babe (Shindig - Sep 30, 1965) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXCqDbCQVdw#)


It ain't me babe - Johnny Cash & June Carter Cash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R2NrV4ve1o#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on August 19, 2014, 05:20:16 AM
The Beatles really did listen to Dylan!

(http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee372/KelMar1963/john-and-paul-with-lps_zps7c54b88f.jpg)

I love this picture.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: oldbrownshoe on August 19, 2014, 06:02:13 AM
More importantly, insofar as the type of songs they chose to cover, they listened to Ben E. King!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: oldbrownshoe on August 26, 2014, 03:33:50 PM
The Record Industry has, to all intents and purposes, reverted to its dawn of Rock 'n' Roll model of the mid-1950s.

Back then people who listened to expensive classical box sets were heavily indulged by EMI, Decca, HMV etc. but had to pay for it.
Teenagers had to make do with 78s, and later 45s, and the rare LP release by one of their faves.
Now we're in 2014 and the expensive box set principal applies to pop music.

I mention all this because on November 3rd, it's a Monday, THE BASEMENT TAPES finally get released.

38 track versions (The Basement Tapes equivalent of going to the seaside and not going in the sea) are available on vinyl or CD.

The 138 track 6-CD version, i.e. a whopping 100 tracks more, is available for £111.

However, for this release I think I will be shelling out as (a) it's near my birthday (b) next to 'Smile' it's the most important musical release of the 21st Century and (c) there, mercifully, are no 1975 overdubs.   
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: oldbrownshoe on August 28, 2014, 07:39:21 AM
No one going to get this?
It's a bit more interesting, and relevant to The Beatles, than a multiple-CD box set of Wings.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Moogmodule on August 28, 2014, 08:05:49 AM
No one going to get this?
It's a bit more interesting, and relevant to The Beatles, than a multiple-CD box set of Wings.

I'm pretty tempted.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Bobber on August 28, 2014, 11:29:58 AM

It's a bit more [...] relevant to The Beatles, than a multiple-CD box set of Wings.

How is that?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: oldbrownshoe on August 28, 2014, 03:50:30 PM
I'm amazed if you don't think it is.

But, if you don't, I'd be even more amazed if you thought 'The Basement Tapes' wasn't a much more worthwhile purchase, even if it is £30 more, than 'Wings At The Speed Of Sound'.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Bobber on August 28, 2014, 05:59:56 PM
It's all a matter of taste I guess. I never cared much for the works of Bob Dylan. I just don't see how Bob Dylan is more relevant to the Beatles than a multiple CD box set of Wings. A pity you don't want to explain that and instead just kill my opinion.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: oldbrownshoe on August 28, 2014, 07:13:55 PM
The Basement Tapes were made in '67 and via cover versions, The Band themselves making two landmark LPs, and people in the industry (including The Beatles) hearing them on acetate, though one suspects even they didn't hear all 138 tracks, the music of '68 and '69 took a step away from studio trickery to a more organic sound (White Album, Get Back, Jumpin' Jack Flash, Wild Honey etc.).

Yikes, I'm sounding like Mojo.
 
They're vital to The Beatles era.
This release is a landmark release.
How often has that happened in the last 30 years? 
The stuff has been heard via official release (notwithstanding the 1975 overdubs) or bootleg is, like The White Album, all over the place, but, frankly, astounding.

Wings albums are...erm...Wings albums. Not bad (possibly), but not vital (definitely).
I'm not wildly sure if anyone even really needs a single CD of them.
I'm absolutely convinced they don't need box sets.
Their only use, I imagine, is to test the water out for the inevitable Beatles equivalent releases in ten years time.   
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on August 29, 2014, 01:00:45 AM
I think both positions are understandable. Some Beatles fans see the solo careers as a continuation of the Beatles history; and other Beatles fans think that the context of the Beatles era is more relevant. I belong to the second group, because I think it's much more interesting the parallel evolution of other bands. I still like some solo stuff, but no more than half a dozen solo records are relevant to me.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: oldbrownshoe on August 29, 2014, 06:08:40 AM
This may be a peculiarly British point of view but can I just throw in that I believe longevity to be the most over-rated virtue in pop music.
In '67 Dylan didn't represent longevity, even as early as 1975 McCartney did.

Give me short, sharp intense activity (Buddy Holly, Nick Drake, The Beatles, 60s Dylan, Syd era Floyd) over a U2, or indeed a latter Dylan, any day of the week.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mr Mustard on August 29, 2014, 11:18:46 PM
Ahhh Bob Dylan....

Born in Minneapolis, a precocious talent but moody/unpredictable, at times reclusive. Vastly influential but others had bigger, better loved commercial hits with his songs ("All Along The Watch Tower", "Mighty Quinn", "Mr Tambourine Man" etc) than he did. Frequently monosyllabic/uncommunicative on stage between numbers, wrapped up in himself and treading the tightrope between sulky a**hole and temperamental genius.

Will we ever see his like again?

Ahhh, Prince.....

Born in Minneapolis, a precocious talent but moody/unpredictable, at times reclusive. Vastly influential but others had bigger, better loved commercial hits with his songs ("Nothing Compares 2 U", "Manic Monday", "Kiss" etc) than he did. Frequently monosyllabic/uncommunicative on stage between numbers, wrapped up in himself and treading the tightrope between sulky a**hole and temperamental genius.

I've heard they met but didn't get on...though other reports I've read suggest a mutual respect at least. Certainly listening to Prince's "Raspberry Beret" or playing his "Fury" back to back with Bob's "All Along The Watch Tower" I sense there is a powerful congruity at work.

I don't personally "get" either of them much, but I respect and acknowledge their talent and influence.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Moogmodule on August 30, 2014, 12:02:09 AM
Ahhh Bob Dylan....

Born in Minneapolis, a precocious talent but moody/unpredictable, at times reclusive. Vastly influential but others had bigger, better loved commercial hits with his songs ("All Along The Watch Tower", "Mighty Quinn", "Mr Tambourine Man" etc) than he did. Frequently monosyllabic/uncommunicative on stage between numbers, wrapped up in himself and treading the tightrope between sulky a**hole and temperamental genius.

Will we ever see his like again?

He's definitely a one off our bob. I love lots of his stuff but I'm the first to admit he doesn't make it easy on his fans.  He comes across as a grudging performer. The way he twists his voice makes him an easy target for non-fans to slag him off (always to those of us who do like him). The thing is his voice could sound soft and pleasant on some recordings. I'm thinking of examples like Tomorrow is a Long Time, Lay Lady Lay etc. He didn't have to sound tuneless and toneless.

And while his songwriting got more obtuse during the 60s his lucid simpler lyrics always worked really well for me. Songs like The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll and Boots if Spanish Leather and If You See Her Say Hello can still bring a lump to my throat.

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: oldbrownshoe on August 30, 2014, 07:41:17 AM
I think the clever money on Bob is to:
(a) avoid anything he made after the 60s (OK, apart from 'Blood On The Tracks' if you must, but purely as the exception to the rule),
(b) avoid and disregard 99% of the literature written about him,
(c) see him as a pop star more than a sage, and,
(d) never, but never, ever, shell out far too much money to see him live (but then that applies to virtually everyone in 2014). The time to see him live was from 1961 to 1966. Even the Isle of Wight in 1969 is, alas, too late.

I do, however, find it strange that Beatles fans can be so ambivalent towards him.
The Beatles are Bob Dylan, Bob Dylan is The Beatles.

If you like 'Paperback Writer' how on earth can you dislike 'Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window'?
There's barely a cigarette paper between the two!
'For No One' - 'To Ramona' / 'I Threw It All Away' - 'Something' / 'Rain' - 'Maggie's Farm' etc. etc.

Some of the Dylan songs sound like Dylan songs, some of the Beatles songs sound like Dylan songs!
They were the same age, they were breathing the same air.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Moogmodule on August 30, 2014, 10:27:54 AM
I think the clever money on Bob is to:
(a) avoid anything he made after the 60s (OK, apart from 'Blood On The Tracks' if you must, but purely as the exception to the rule),


Have to stop you there OBS. Bob's recent Christmas album is an annual fav with me. How can you not love Bob croaking out Oh Come All ye Faithful. With a Latin verse no less.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on August 30, 2014, 06:02:47 PM
My attitude towards Bob Dylan has always been full of contradictions, just like the man himself. But now I'm at the point where I just take him on a song by song basis. Some of his work resonates with me on a level that's powerful enough to allow me to overlook the things that make me think "Seriously Bob?".
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mr Mustard on August 30, 2014, 08:10:51 PM


I do, however, find it strange that Beatles fans can be so ambivalent towards him.
The Beatles are Bob Dylan, Bob Dylan is The Beatles.


With respect OBS, that is nonsense. Dylan is no more The Beatles than Monty Python are. All are contemporaries who grew up at the same time and are (irritatingly) frequently lumped together by commentators who should know better... but in stark terms of output/product, they are nothing like each other. The Beatles dallied with a Dylanesque influence but they're no more like him than they are like The Shirelles and they are vastly (yes, vastly) better than either.

No "ambivalence" from THIS Beatles fan towards Bob... I think he is very overrated, though his influence (including on the fabs) is undeniable. Chuck Berry had a massive influence on the proto-Beatles but for what it's worth I think he's very overrated too. But that's just my opinion, there is no definitive "right" or "wrong" here, although I do get a bit irked when people learn I'm a big Beatles fan and assume I therefore surely also really like Dylan (which kind of bolsters your assertion, come to think of it!) But I know a number of Dylan fans who respect but dislike The Beatles, and several Beatles fans who acknowledge but don't care for Bob.

Paul actually WAS a Beatle, which Bob will never be, so I'm firmly in the school of Wings being far more relevant in "Beatle" terms than Dylan or Brian Wilson or any of the rest are. I know you kind of mentally "ring fence" the sixties and so link them as an entity to their contemporaries, and I respect that. But for me they were John, Paul, George, Ringo + that intangible magic - OK, that magical "something" evaporated when they went their separate ways but a vestige of "Beatleyness" remained in each of them forever after. I'd play "Ringo's Rotogravure" in preference to "Blonde On Blonde" every time (seriously).


If you like 'Paperback Writer' how on earth can you dislike 'Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window'?

Very easily! The first is irresistible and expertly sung with fast, jangly guitars & drums. The second is much more reminiscent of a Paul Simon type number, with a more plodding rhythm and (I'm going to have to say it) badly sung. I could be kind and call Bob's vocals an idiosyncratic/acquired taste but I'd be pandering to the Emperor's clothes mentality which holds him in such awe, but for me, he's a lousy singer, simple as that. And one of THE greatest things about The Beatles was their emphasis on vocals, and their accessibility. Bob is very hard work; they never were.

If I had to sum up the big difference between them I'd say The Beatles were very charismatic whereas Dylan was very enigmatic. They were at least his equal in terms of influence and "credibility", but they also had a string of number one hits to their CV and an easy to love aura about them; Bob had neither, even though I accept he couldn't care less.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Kevin on August 31, 2014, 01:28:57 PM
I can see the big attraction to mid sixties Dylan. He's a punk on a street corner with his guitar, snarling at the world. How many kids heard him and thought I cando that! That Dylan showed you didn't need a "good" voice or be technically proficient at your instrument is a revelation. His impact upon popular music is, as with The Beatles and Elvis, beyond measure.
I can see why Beatle fans don't like him. There's no jangling guitar or sweet harmonies, and his lyrics can be a little inaccessible. But over-rated! Dylan! I cannot agree.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Ovi on September 03, 2014, 04:48:10 AM
I think the clever money on Bob is to:
(a) avoid anything he made after the 60s (OK, apart from 'Blood On The Tracks' if you must, but purely as the exception to the rule),

Now that's just nonsense. Everybody knows Bob Dylan sold out in '65 at Newport when he went electric. Everything he's made after Another Side of Bob Dylan is rubbish. Avoid!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: oldbrownshoe on September 04, 2014, 11:31:21 AM
Mr. Mustard, if The Beatles had disregarded (the over-rated!!!) Chuck Berry et al in such a cavalier way they'd not have been Bob Dylan, which they undoubtedly and thankfully are.....they'd have been Doris Day!
 
Also, Monty Python (1969) ARE the Beatles (Magical Mystery Tour - 1967).
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Mr Mustard on September 04, 2014, 10:17:19 PM
Mr. Mustard, if The Beatles had disregarded (the over-rated!!!) Chuck Berry et al in such a cavalier way they'd not have been Bob Dylan, which they undoubtedly and thankfully are.....they'd have been Doris Day!
 
Also, Monty Python (1969) ARE the Beatles (Magical Mystery Tour - 1967).

I wasn't being cavalier about Chuck...I just don't think he was as impressive as the "et al" - that is to say, some of the other influences they drew from. But then, I don't have to love everyone they loved, right? I never knew quite what they saw in Carl Perkins, who to my mind couldn't hold a candle to the great Johnny Cash - yet Cash seems to have had zero influence on The Beatles.

And now for something completely different....

Python were never The Beatles, but I'll concede that MMT proves they were The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band (remember the stripper scene? Eh? nudge nudge wink wink say no more!) ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: oldbrownshoe on September 05, 2014, 05:15:44 AM
I'm with George, I'd have Carl over Johnny Cash.
He's rock 'n' roll, Johnny Cash is more country.

My point is simply that without the 60s, 90% of the point or the impact of the Beatles is gone and their music is given a dis-service.
Music in 2014 seems to exist in a bubble (i.e. (lack of!)-talent shows; and I don't hear many anti-war records despite this being the most 'war' decade since the 1940s) so why relegate the Beatles to less interesting and questioning eras?

Hence, a legendary glut of 1967 recordings by a contemporary IS considerably more important a release to our (OK, mine maybe not yours) enjoyment and understanding of them than a couple of ho-hum Paul LPs from the mid-1970s or, wait for it, even 'Ringo Roto.....'.....erm.....that Ringo album you mentioned!

Anyway, back to the Dylan thread.....even as a staunch anti-box set buyer, I'll be buying it, and it seems that, just like Mark Lewisohn's book, the price is falling as I write - £101 at the last look.
Hopefully by November it'll be a more manageable £80-ish.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: pc31 on September 13, 2014, 03:30:45 AM
dlyan is an oppertunistic...i hate that nasal twang of his.....he made a good wilbury....but the f*** got paid for bangledesh.....he also i heard use to carry paper and pencil to wood guthries death bed...this land is your land this land is my land...i dont see bob as a milestone....i am sorry and hes as ugly as neil young....i have heard look what they done to my song was about bob collecting material illegal like....dylan has many fans and non fans...imma nonfan.....i just dont like the man personally or musically...he knows some decent people...color me done....anyone wanna buy a positivelry fouth street 45 with a sleeve?rare dylan worth money....i am tempted to shoot it....i think todd likes dylan...and dirk said he would eat the corn outta his sh*t... 4ac
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: oldbrownshoe on October 30, 2014, 03:47:20 PM
.....erm.....maybe £100 is too much!

I don't like box sets (I only own one) and I'm getting decidedly cold feet over passing over £100 when there are a glut of tasty re-releases around the corner such as The Doors' 'Feast of Friends' DVD (£13).
It doesn't help that the forthcoming Velvet Underground box with the same number of CDs is pitched at £49.

So.....hmmm.....I might just get the 38-track, £15 version on Monday.

I wonder if Paul is getting the full monty or the 2-cd version? Full monty, I reckon.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: oldbrownshoe on November 04, 2014, 07:42:26 AM
Pity that when I went in HMV they should be playing some awful Stones' concert from god-knows when on the same day that a piece of genuine history was first officially released. Probably should have gone in earlier.

Opted for the £15 job (hey! there's now a compilation CD of Sly Stone's record label in the late 60s to also consider!).

Anyone else getting it?
Funny, but on first listen (very favourable, it's 'The Bl***in' Basement Tapes'!) it makes me want to listen to pre-war blues, presumably Dylan's original intention?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: oldbrownshoe on November 05, 2014, 10:27:42 AM
Reading some of the comments on Amazon, pretty much most of the negative comments are (rightly) reserved for the expensive 6-CD set.

I also sense that some of the more entrenched Dylanologists (yikes, wouldn't want to get stuck in a lift with one) are treating it all in a bit of a 'seen it all before' sort of way.

Personally, I'm pleased that I didn't buy the various bootlegs over the years or labour too long over the 1975 double-LP as, just like 'Smile' in 2011 and 'Live at the BBC' in 2013, these are to all intents and purposes 'NEW' fresh albums.

Bob probably writes about something similar somewhere on 'The Basement Tapes', but sometimes it is better to be a tortoise rather than a hare.   

What next?
The Glyn Johns' mix of 'Get Back' next November would be nice.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: oldbrownshoe on November 28, 2014, 07:43:58 AM
Well? Did anyone get it?
I've listened to nothing else for three weeks and overwhelmingly recommend the 'Raw' version which is unbelievable value for £15.
I'm still pondering over getting the 6-CD version as it is clearly overpriced.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on December 27, 2014, 10:21:56 PM
I like finding these outtake shots...

(http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee372/KelMar1963/tumblr_nf3tqmz7eE1r745vdo1_1280_zpsabbd94bb.jpg)

Bob Dylan and Suze Rotolo, 1963

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2008/aug/16/biography.bobdylan (http://www.theguardian.com/books/2008/aug/16/biography.bobdylan)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on January 09, 2015, 10:22:01 PM
Well? Did anyone get it?
I've listened to nothing else for three weeks and overwhelmingly recommend the 'Raw' version which is unbelievable value for £15.
I'm still pondering over getting the 6-CD version as it is clearly overpriced.


Yes!  My Bootleg Series Vol. 11 (Deluxe Edition - The Basement Tapes Complete) 6 CD Box Set arrived in mid-November, oldbrownshoe.  It's definitely worth the price.  You'll enjoy it.

Bob Dylan told you to buy it in 1965...


(http://rack.2.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEyLzEyLzA0LzE4L2JvYmR5bGFudXNlLmJMcC5qcGcKcAl0aHVtYgkxMjAweDYyNyMKZQlqcGc/78d30acb/afd/bob-dylan-uses-iphone-geolocation-app-to-market-new-album-bb01beb69c.jpg)


(http://www.photogriffon.com/les-maitres-de-la-photographie/Tony-FRANK/Bob-Dylan-sur-le-tournage-de-la-chanson-Subterranean-homesick-blues-Londres-1965-tony-frank.jpg)




(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/2865989/subterranean-homesick-blues-o.gif)

What are you waiting for?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on April 04, 2015, 05:59:52 AM
Bob Dylan on Billy Lee Riley, during his acceptance speech as MusiCares Person of the Year in February:

“So Billy became what is known in the industry — a condescending term, by the way — as a one-hit wonder. But sometimes, just sometimes, once in a while, a one-hit wonder can make a more powerful impact than a recording star who’s got 20 or 30 hits behind him. And Billy’s hit song was called ‘Red Hot,’ and it was red hot. It could blast you out of your skull and make you feel happy about it. Change your life.”

Bob Mehr's Memphis Music Beat: Bob Dylan on Billy Lee Riley (http://www.commercialappeal.com/go-memphis/music/news/bob-mehrs-memphis-music-beat-bob-dylan-on-billy-lee-riley_86925855)

http://youtu.be/Nxt_7sD9znM (http://youtu.be/Nxt_7sD9znM)


The Beatles liked it too, but disregard the picture since it was Ringo on drums, not Pete.

http://youtu.be/say4YAlM3u8 (http://youtu.be/say4YAlM3u8)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 26, 2015, 04:41:30 AM
Good news!  More and more Bob Dylan videos are appearing on YouTube...and they're not getting blocked!


Visions of Johanna (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seh3WQddqzs#ws)


(http://i62.tinypic.com/wa4ppg.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 26, 2015, 04:53:55 AM
One of Us Must Know (Sooner or Later) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgEf2KUJVV0#ws)


Positively 4th Street (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsovdtBgz3Q#ws)


Like a Rolling Stone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syNLBJ_Lq9E#ws)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 26, 2015, 04:55:31 AM
I Want You (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH3_5cq5F_0#ws)


It Ain't Me Babe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXg6kNs0NUo#ws)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Ovi on April 26, 2015, 01:45:56 PM
None of them work for me.  :(
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 27, 2015, 05:06:41 PM
Must be a country thing, Ovi.  But I think there's an app that can unblock these videos.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 27, 2015, 05:12:59 PM
A lot of sexual innuendo and double entendres in this one...


Absolutely Sweet Marie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb2QyBUK3zg#ws)




I love this line:

Well, anybody can be just like me, obviously
But then, now again, not too many can be like you, fortunately.



Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 27, 2015, 05:19:26 PM
The Beatles - Norwegian Woods, 1980 MFSL LP Edition VS 2009 CD Remastered (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x1BCDjqSUI#)


Fourth Time Around (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaYo3cn_Qp4#ws)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Kevin on April 28, 2015, 11:53:14 AM
^ Poor old John. Apparently he was very paranoid about Fourth Time Around, and probably rightly so. I think the lyric is actually quite funny, but can be construed as being very barbed.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on July 28, 2015, 03:46:26 AM
http://youtu.be/-Mk18aPydAU (http://youtu.be/-Mk18aPydAU)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on July 28, 2015, 03:56:51 AM
And one of my favorites...


http://youtu.be/FZ5fdGNVVlQ (http://youtu.be/FZ5fdGNVVlQ)


  It was raining from the first
  And I was dying there of thirst
  So I came in here
  And your long-time curse hurts
  But what’s worse
  Is this pain in here
  I can’t stay in here
  Ain’t it clear that—

  I just can’t fit

 
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on July 28, 2015, 04:08:02 AM
And one of my favorites...




  It was raining from the first
  And I was dying there of thirst
  So I came in here
  And your long-time curse hurts
  But what’s worse
  Is this pain in here
  I can’t stay in here
  Ain’t it clear that—

  I just can’t fit

 

Yeah...It took a long time but it was his way with words that finally won me over.

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Brynjar on July 28, 2015, 09:21:45 AM
This is amazing:

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNkmj5uygZA#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Moogmodule on July 28, 2015, 10:01:15 AM
This is amazing:

! No longer available ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNkmj5uygZA#[/url])


That's great.  ha2ha
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 11, 2015, 05:23:18 AM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81WVXKYTPYL._SL1500_.jpg)






http://youtu.be/WmqO2UVjo48 (http://youtu.be/WmqO2UVjo48)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 11, 2015, 05:39:47 AM
I just got this set yesterday.  Songs from my favorite Bob Dylan phase.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: oldbrownshoe on November 12, 2015, 06:30:30 AM
I got the taut 2CD version (£13) and have been playing the second CD all week.

Said it before, and I'll say it again, The Bootleg Series is the very definition of how a back catalogue can be enhanced.

Why on earth don't Apple bring out definitive, last word, versions of the Xmas flexis, Star Club, Decca Audition, Hollywood Bowl, a full 'Magical Mystery Tour' s/t, Esher demos, Rooftop Concert etc. etc. under a similar all-encompassing title?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 12, 2015, 07:11:37 AM
Said it before, and I'll say it again, The Bootleg Series is the very definition of how a back catalogue can be enhanced.

 icon_good
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: nimrod on November 12, 2015, 09:50:49 AM
I got the taut 2CD version (£13) and have been playing the second CD all week.

Said it before, and I'll say it again, The Bootleg Series is the very definition of how a back catalogue can be enhanced.

Why on earth don't Apple bring out definitive, last word, versions of the Xmas flexis, Star Club, Decca Audition, Hollywood Bowl, a full 'Magical Mystery Tour' s/t, Esher demos, Rooftop Concert etc. etc. under a similar all-encompassing title?

A grand idea obs
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 12, 2015, 11:37:51 PM
I got the taut 2CD version (£13) and have been playing the second CD all week.

Said it before, and I'll say it again, The Bootleg Series is the very definition of how a back catalogue can be enhanced.

Why on earth don't Apple bring out definitive, last word, versions of the Xmas flexis, Star Club, Decca Audition, Hollywood Bowl, a full 'Magical Mystery Tour' s/t, Esher demos, Rooftop Concert etc. etc. under a similar all-encompassing title?

As you can see, oldbrownshoe, Columbia took great care in production of The Bootleg Series.  Audio quality is on par with regular production releases.  Apple can indeed take a lesson from Columbia's efforts.

I checked the track list of your 2 CD set.  You have the very best of the 6 CD set.  It's fun to listen to the extra takes in the full set.  Even more fun is listening to the breakdowns and hearing Bob Dylan's comments.  It's as if you were sitting in the studio's control booth and listening to the monitors during the recording sessions.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: nimrod on November 12, 2015, 11:46:25 PM
I see theres an 18 CD version Baz
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 13, 2015, 12:38:29 AM
I see theres an 18 CD version Baz



(http://static.musictoday.com/store/bands/4065/images/splash/boxset.jpg)



Yeah.  600 dollars!  The Collector's Edition, available only on his website where you can also buy a set of seven signed and played Hohner Marine Band harmonicas for only $25,000



(http://www.rockandrolltshirts.com/core/media/media.nl?id=1014&c=973412&h=f790568b201eba71f982)



The ones I bought in the late 60s still play good.  They cost me about five dollars each at the time.  The harmonica holder was about two and half dollars.       ;)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 13, 2015, 12:55:04 AM
http://youtu.be/Vf8f5W6JMgQ?list=PLknidvzcLCRFcc6kRI5Wm0Nh96Baf-VNT (http://youtu.be/Vf8f5W6JMgQ?list=PLknidvzcLCRFcc6kRI5Wm0Nh96Baf-VNT)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 13, 2015, 12:58:55 AM
http://youtu.be/ljbxm_sKC90 (http://youtu.be/ljbxm_sKC90)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: nimrod on November 13, 2015, 01:33:40 AM
None of the Dylan vids will play Baz, must be blocked in Australia for some reason
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 13, 2015, 02:04:22 AM
Sorry to hear that, Kev.  Those are some pretty good early takes.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 13, 2015, 02:31:49 AM
See if this one works down under, Kev...


http://youtu.be/2Mb3CoWwNyY (http://youtu.be/2Mb3CoWwNyY)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: nimrod on November 13, 2015, 02:37:29 AM
yeah that works
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 13, 2015, 04:28:58 AM
The 6 CD set has the complete recording session of Like A Rolling Stone.  It started out as a waltz!


http://youtu.be/HgRdeyWk1tM (http://youtu.be/HgRdeyWk1tM)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on November 13, 2015, 04:38:53 AM
^^^

That doesn't always work out well.  ;)


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x23ubsr_the-beatles-i-ll-be-back-demo-anthology-1-disc-2_music (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x23ubsr_the-beatles-i-ll-be-back-demo-anthology-1-disc-2_music)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 13, 2015, 04:59:21 AM
^

No, it doesn't.


Fortunately with a bit of help from Al Kooper and Mike Bloomfield...


http://youtu.be/EOAowiF3y_8 (http://youtu.be/EOAowiF3y_8)


Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on November 13, 2015, 05:29:23 AM

Fortunately with a bit of help from Al Kooper and Mike Bloomfield...


And thus the incredibly ambitious 21 year old became an organ player.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 13, 2015, 05:34:27 AM
http://youtu.be/YlHLE96ApPI (http://youtu.be/YlHLE96ApPI)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 13, 2015, 05:35:08 AM
Frankie Valli is Bob Dylan approximately....


http://youtu.be/NU-OsNFrMaQ (http://youtu.be/NU-OsNFrMaQ)





 icon_good
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 13, 2015, 05:40:29 AM
http://youtu.be/NfvFc6-n2ZQ (http://youtu.be/NfvFc6-n2ZQ)




 :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 13, 2015, 05:49:05 AM
But then, now again, not too many can be like Bob Dylan, fortunately...


http://youtu.be/2Ppewh4qiWs (http://youtu.be/2Ppewh4qiWs)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on November 13, 2015, 05:53:34 AM
Frankie Valli is Bob Dylan approximately....


After hearing The Four Seasons' "The Genuine Imitation Life Gazette" I didn't think I'd ever be surprised by them again but Queen Jane just proved me wrong! I did know about "Don't Think Twice, It's Alright" though. What surprised me about that was discovering it wasn't really their song. LOL That was in my younger days, you know.

I think I'll just stick with Bob and these three...

http://youtu.be/Xu-DWUngjhk (http://youtu.be/Xu-DWUngjhk)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 13, 2015, 06:05:09 AM
And thus the incredibly ambitious 21 year old became an organ player.


His incredible organ swirls...


http://youtu.be/GgEf2KUJVV0 (http://youtu.be/GgEf2KUJVV0)



(http://alldylan.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Al-Kooper-bob-dylan.jpg)





 icon_good
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 13, 2015, 05:39:52 PM
(http://static.tumblr.com/ldx10ow/hfMlrbrcs/dylan-scarf__1_.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 15, 2015, 01:00:31 AM
(http://www.charliesteiner.com/data/photos/7_1dylan_silverfast_square_crop_spot_clean_dodge_hair_brt_head_unsharp_8x10_72.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 20, 2016, 02:29:05 AM
(http://www.searchingforagem.com/1960s/1960s_Pictures/BlondeLocation1966.jpg)

375 West Street at Morton Street, Greenwich Village, New York City (Meat Packing District)


(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/2b/07/f5/2b07f53630bba8261a535350c7a103f9.jpg)


(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d0/d4/64/d0d46484edc8d808adf4722fb1c9d5af.jpg)


(http://www.popspotsnyc.com/blonde_on_blonde/BoB_NYC_by_Schatzberg_03.jpg)


(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/af/b7/5a/afb75ae57aca52d2846ec4ca449c94b9.jpg)


(http://www.100xr.com/100_XR/Artists/B/Bob_Dylan/Bob.Dylan-1966.jpg)


(http://www.allaboutjazz.com/media/large/b/1/f/a685d368be2d542c5f48ed0f6b889.jpg)


(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/43/7d/02/437d02837b512084bdd19547222fb52a.jpg)




(https://images.rapgenius.com/b6ba501958ab5bb52d5377067c128dd5.1000x1000x1.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on April 20, 2016, 02:42:29 AM
So that's where that is. Interesting!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 20, 2016, 03:04:31 AM
(http://www.popspotsnyc.com/satevepost/JacobStreetWest.jpg)


(http://www.popspotsnyc.com/satevepost/JacobStreetWest_2ND_Trans.jpg)


(http://www.popspotsnyc.com/satevepost/JacobStreetWest_2ND.jpg)

Jacob Street, New York City...near the Brooklyn Bridge




(http://www.popspotsnyc.com/satevepost/blonde_deux.jpg)


(http://www.popspotsnyc.com/satevepost/JacobStreetWest_SEP_Trans.jpg)



(http://www.popspotsnyc.com/satevepost/Dylan_post.jpg)

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 20, 2016, 03:06:16 AM

And Madonna, she still has not showed
We see this empty cage now corrode
Where her cape of the stage once had flowed
The fiddler he now steps to the road
He writes everything’s been returned which was owed
On the back of the fish truck that loads
While my conscience explodes
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Klang on April 20, 2016, 03:18:56 AM

Dang. I want to see that Horatio Hornblower story. I love me some good horn.

 :P

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on April 20, 2016, 03:41:58 AM
No Horatio but a little bit of the Jules Siegel article here:

http://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2015/07/20/culture/1966-bob-dylan.html (http://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2015/07/20/culture/1966-bob-dylan.html)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 20, 2016, 04:16:50 AM
(https://static-secure.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/5/24/1400928011494/Bob-Dylan-with-Get-Born-s-015.jpg)


(http://www.popspotsnyc.com/subterranean/dylan_savoy_13fin.jpg)


(http://www.popspotsnyc.com/subterranean/dylan_savoy.jpg)

Savoy Hill Road, London


Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 21, 2016, 03:13:36 AM
(http://www.popspotsnyc.com/bringing_it_all_back_home/12345.jpg)


(http://www.popspotsnyc.com/bringing_it_all_back_home/BIABH_combo.jpg)

The Grossman Estate   Bearsville, New York




(http://www.popspotsnyc.com/bringing_it_all_back_home/bringing-it-all-back-home.jpg)



(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7250/13412508404_80edbfcf32_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 21, 2016, 03:48:57 AM
http://youtu.be/seh3WQddqzs (http://youtu.be/seh3WQddqzs)
Studio   1966


http://youtu.be/awlrMmr9eNc (http://youtu.be/awlrMmr9eNc)
The Royal Albert Hall   1966


http://youtu.be/i8z7KzB16Ik (http://youtu.be/i8z7KzB16Ik)
Portsmouth, UK   2000
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on May 02, 2016, 03:22:43 AM
(http://cfile23.uf.tistory.com/image/2359EE4153BFF93339EBEB)


(http://songmango.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Johanna-Joan-Baez-and-dylan.jpg)


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-_HdwH-6Mleg/UF--eM2FapI/AAAAAAAAAeI/Lk4q2WuyBPI/s1600/joan+bob+savoy.jpg)


(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DAcEX2mDoVk/UfwMgYdicbI/AAAAAAAAJT0/zlCxi_Hwi9g/s1600/joan+baez+and+bob+dylan+1965.jpg)


(http://adelaidereview.com.au/content/uploads/2015/03/joan-baez-bob-dylan-conformity.jpg)


(http://blog24-7.sex-mit-sartre.de/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/7343-Joan-baez-bob-dylan-duo-happy-.jpg)


(http://flashbak.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/11-Bob-Dylan-and-Joan-Baez-1280x845.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on May 11, 2016, 11:22:27 PM
Bob Dylan’s paintings at NOMA show glimpses of New Orleans mystique & intrigue (http://wgno.com/2016/05/09/bob-dylans-paintings-at-noma-show-glimpses-of-new-orleans-mystique-intrigue/)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on October 13, 2016, 09:41:53 PM
Bob Dylan Awarded Nobel Prize in Literature (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/14/arts/music/bob-dylan-nobel-prize-literature.html)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Moogmodule on October 13, 2016, 09:54:38 PM
Bob Dylan Awarded Nobel Prize in Literature ([url]http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/14/arts/music/bob-dylan-nobel-prize-literature.html[/url])


I think that's a great choice. On ya Bob
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on October 13, 2016, 10:13:18 PM
(http://i65.tinypic.com/wi6688.jpg)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 13, 2016, 11:13:35 PM
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/music/2016/01/28/bobdylan-xlarge_trans++eo_i_u9APj8RuoebjoAHt0k9u7HhRJvuo-ZLenGRumA.jpg)


The first musician to win the award.  Yay Bob!!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on October 13, 2016, 11:56:22 PM
The first musician to win the award.  Yay Bob!!

I don't know if he deserved it more than other writers; but he certainly deserved it more than any other musician.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Moogmodule on October 14, 2016, 12:43:07 AM
I don't know if he deserved it more than other writers; but he certainly deserved it more than any other musician.

That's a good point. I'm a big fan of Murakami who was a favourite. But nothing will stop him getting it in a future year (except dying). I think it's a good acknowledgement that unique written qualities can be present in modern music. And that Dylan is the best encapsulation of this.

Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on October 14, 2016, 01:17:39 AM
That's a good point. I'm a big fan of Murakami who was a favourite. But nothing will stop him getting it in a future year (except dying). I think it's a good acknowledgement that unique written qualities can be present in modern music. And that Dylan is the best encapsulation of this.

I think Jorge Luis Borges (1899-1986) deserved the Nobel Prize in Literature more than Bob Dylan, but he never won it. However, we should not only take into account the quality of words, but also the impact, innovation and influence that Dylan had in the popular music scene during the 60's. I think he was as important as the Beatles in the musical revolution of that decade, specifically from the lyrics side.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Normandie on October 17, 2016, 09:14:07 PM


I find Dylan's silence on the topic puzzling:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/nobel-prize-panel-stops-trying-to-get-in-touch-with-bob-dylan/ar-AAj3Sfn?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=U218DHP (http://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/nobel-prize-panel-stops-trying-to-get-in-touch-with-bob-dylan/ar-AAj3Sfn?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=U218DHP)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 18, 2016, 01:36:26 AM
He's just being iconic, Kathleen.  ;)


Or maybe he's taking this New York Times editorial seriously:  Why Bob Dylan Shouldn’t Have Gotten a Nobel (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/opinion/why-bob-dylan-shouldnt-have-gotten-a-nobel.html?_r=0)


Anna North is not too well-informed.  It looks like anyone can write for The New York Times these days.  She's sure got a lotta gall to be so useless and all, muttering small talk at the wall while I'm in the hall.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Moogmodule on October 18, 2016, 01:53:16 AM
Bob's copping it from all quarters

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/bob-dylan-rocks-but-as-a-poet-he-is-just-bland-on-bland/news-story/0b7d7028aa86e5d47422e3351075c9f5 (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/bob-dylan-rocks-but-as-a-poet-he-is-just-bland-on-bland/news-story/0b7d7028aa86e5d47422e3351075c9f5)

I think they're basically missing the point. Yes Bob maybe isn't the greatest poet ever or even going around today. I interpreted the award as for the way he elevated lyrical songwriting and integrated a poetic approach into western modern music. At the same time penning several songs that will remain in societies canon primarily for their lyrics rather than their music. Blowing in the Wind, Mr Tambourine Man, The Times they are a Changing come immediately to mind. To agree that Dylan's work is best appreciated as song rather than as words on a page or just spoken doesn't mean it's not worthy literature. The whole point is that he works in a field where words must be matched to music. A constraint poets and novelists don't have. The recognition is that you can pursue literary goals inside such constraints.

I'm wondering if part of the pique in the literature world's reaction is their realisation that poetry is very much a poor cousin now in written art forms. A little like opera composers, very few modern poets are making much of a wider social impact compared to their antecedents. Most living poets that could be given a Nobel would elicit blank stares of non recognition outside a small circle. Nobel prizes don't have to be a popularity contest, nor is it a bad thing to elevate the profile of lesser known ar,tist. But this prize makes people consider a broader definition of what is great writing and that is itself valuable.



Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 18, 2016, 02:11:51 AM
Well said, Moog.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on October 18, 2016, 04:08:00 AM
I also agree with Moog. Words are words, being in a book or as part of a song. I could understand a complaint saying that better writers exist, which is a subjective opinion; but Bob Dylan was always a suitable option for the prize.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: nimrod on October 18, 2016, 10:46:26 PM
Well I don't know whether he deserves it or not really I've been reading poetry all my life and I never really regarded his lyrics as poetry although I suppose you could look at them that way I always more considered Jim Morrison's words as the most poetic in popular music

On A personal level I'm not sure Bob deserves this award for two reasons .....number 1 he didn't attend George Harrison's concert for George at the Albert Hall I mean he was in a group with him for a few years and the other reason is I spent a fortune going to see him and he never said a word during the show he never smiled or said hello.... and he changed Melody of every song ....I only recognised them because of the words, it was probably the worst concert I've ever been too.

He was probably being Iconic   ha2ha
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 29, 2016, 12:59:51 AM
He was probably being Iconic   ha2ha


 ;D



Bob Dylan: Nobel Literature Prize left me speechless (http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-37806639)



BBC News

Bob Dylan: Nobel Literature Prize left me speechless


US singer-songwriter Bob Dylan says he accepts his Nobel Prize in literature, ending a silence since being awarded the prize earlier this month.

He said the honour had left him "speechless", the Nobel Foundation said in a statement.

The foundation said it had not yet been decided if the singer would attend the awards ceremony in December.

However, Dylan reportedly told a UK newspaper he intended to pick up the award in person "if at all possible".

The award to the star was announced on 13 October "for having created new poetic expressions within the great American song tradition".

However, his failure to acknowledge it raised eyebrows.

Last week, a member of the Swedish Academy, which awards the Nobel prizes, described his silence as "impolite and arrogant".

But on Friday, the Nobel Foundation said Dylan had called Sara Danius, Permanent Secretary of the Swedish Academy, telling her: "The news about the Nobel Prize left me speechless. I appreciate the honour so much."

Although the statement said it was unclear if Dylan would attend the prize-giving banquet in Stockholm, the UK's Daily Telegraph quoted him as saying: "Absolutely. If it's at all possible."

In an interview with the paper he described the prize as "amazing, incredible".

"It's hard to believe. Whoever dreams about something like that?" the paper quoted him as saying.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 29, 2016, 03:21:10 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXYmYnjrFBc# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXYmYnjrFBc#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 29, 2016, 03:30:25 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_0SUUq6joo# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_0SUUq6joo#)

Charlie Daniels on bass.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 30, 2016, 05:30:49 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RIFh9lSLC8# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RIFh9lSLC8#)

Strophic form.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 30, 2016, 05:36:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGxjIBEZvx0# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGxjIBEZvx0#)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mb3CoWwNyY# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mb3CoWwNyY#)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on October 30, 2016, 05:42:59 AM
^^^
That's a lot easier to do when the cards aren't blowin' in the wind!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on November 08, 2016, 02:31:31 AM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DWSNpdY6fz8# (https://youtube.com/watch?v=DWSNpdY6fz8#)

 ;D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 08, 2016, 02:53:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFc8glsWjgU# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFc8glsWjgU#)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px0_0WilsVA# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px0_0WilsVA#)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc4YJ_koPBA# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc4YJ_koPBA#)




 icon_good
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: In My Life on October 09, 2017, 04:14:48 AM
I just found this in my email, from 1964. I guess I should check it more often. ;)

The Crackin’, Shakin’, Breakin’ Sounds (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1964/10/24/the-crackin-shakin-breakin-sounds?mbid=nl_Sunday%20Longreads%20(66)&CNDID=18388233&spMailingID=12095790&spUserID=MTMzMTc5Njg0MjM1S0&spJobID=1260632708&spReportId=MTI2MDYzMjcwOAS2)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on October 09, 2017, 04:31:36 AM
The author was wrong.

"Dylan is always dressed informally—the possibility that he will ever be seen in a tie is as remote as the possibility that Miss Baez will perform in an evening gown..."


(http://17rg073sukbm1lmjk9jrehb643.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Renaldo-and-Clara.jpg)


(http://rogovoyreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Dylan-Lou-and-someone-1.jpg)