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Other music forums => Various Artists, Lyrics, Discographies => Topic started by: Bobber on November 21, 2014, 07:03:41 PM
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Somehow I was always glad The Beatles quit before the 70s really set off. It seems like most bands and artists that were big in the 60s lost it in the 70s sooner or later. The Hollies scored with Long Cool Woman In A Black Dress, The Air That I Breathe and He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother. But lost it after that. Did Gerry and the Pacemakers still exist? And the Kinks? How did The Who came through? And other acts, artists and bands from the sixties? Any idea? And why did they lose it?
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Somehow I was always glad The Beatles quit before the 70s really set off. It seems like most bands and artists that were big in the 60s lost it in the 70s sooner or later. The Hollies scored with Long Cool Woman In A Black Dress, The Air That I Breathe and He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother. But lost it after that. Did Gerry and the Pacemakers still exist? And the Kinks? How did The Who came through? And other acts, artists and bands from the sixties? Any idea? And why did they lose it?
The Kinks actually had a pretty successful 70s. Songs like Lola and Apeman put them at the top of the tree. They dropped off in the mid 70s but then had a come back with a harder edged sound. There live album from around 78 was quite big I recall.
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Surely there's a strong case for The Rolling Stones hitting their peak in the early 70s, perhaps at least partly due to the vacuum created when The Beatles dissolved?
The Who and The Moody Blues fared pretty well in the 70s I think?
Tom Jones went down well in Vegas!!
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Found out that Gerry and the Pacemakers didn't even reach the seventies.
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The Stones, Who and Moody Blues all built on their 60s success in the 70s.
The Hollies were doing fine until the lead singer left. He came back later but the damage was done and they also were more a night club band after that.
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The Hollies were doing fine until the lead singer left. He came back later but the damage was done and they also were more a night club band after that.
The Hollies had their last hit in 1974 or so. They still exist, but never reached the heights of the 60s.
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Billy J Kramer and the Dakota's split up in 1967.
The Searchers still exist. Their songs stopped being successful after 1968.
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In terms of quality (a subjective opinion) and chart success, I think only the Who kept a solid pace during the whole decade, even though they only recorded four studio albums: Who's Next (1971), Quadrophenia (1973), The Who By Numbers (1975), and Who Are You (1978). Actually I consider the first of these records as the band's peak.
The first two albums by the Stones in the 70's, Sticky Fingers (1971) and Exile On Main Street (1972), were great but not better than their last two albums in the 60's. I can't tolerate anything the band recorded during the rest of the decade.
The Kinks' Lola (1970) was very entertaining and put the band again on the chart scene; but paradoxically their best albums (recorded in late-60's) were their least successful ones.
Then we have the Doors, giving us Morrison Hotel (1970) and L.A. Woman (1971), the latter probably being their best effort after Strange Days (1967). But Jim Morrison's death in 1971 was the begining of the end of the band.
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The Kinks actually had a pretty successful 70s. Songs like Lola and Apeman put them at the top of the tree. They dropped off in the mid 70s but then had a come back with a harder edged sound. There live album from around 78 was quite big I recall.
They had one final big hit here in the United States with Come Dancing in 1983...
The Kinks: Come dancing -live- (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcfMRcErmxk#)
The Kinks - Come Dancing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiKgQYxUnTs#)
I love that video!
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Tom Jones went down well in Vegas!!
In Paris too!
Tom Jones: It's Not Unusual - French TV 1967 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-dIu5TVJJc#ws)
And he helped save the world when we were invaded by Martians in 1996...
Mars Attacks! - Tom Jones Scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwvNbAqcSpk#ws)
Mars Attacks - Finale (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CAmD8BAqG0#ws)
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Tom Jones - It's Not Unusual (AVO SESSION 2009) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNj9aVmYR_w#ws)
Sir Thomas Jones Woodward, OBE
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Found out that Gerry and the Pacemakers didn't even reach the seventies.
I think they reformed later and did the club circuit. How many of the original Pacemakers were involved I'm not sure.
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They had one final big hit here in the United States with Come Dancing in 1983...
I love that video!
That's the hit I was trying to think of. It was a bit different to the hard rock late 70s sound they'd cultivated.
Ray Davies was enough of a draw to get a role in Absolute Beginners too.
http://youtu.be/Hu2zEYXp41Y (http://youtu.be/Hu2zEYXp41Y)
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That's the hit I was trying to think of. It was a bit different to the hard rock late 70s sound they'd cultivated.
Yes. And there was a reason for that Moog, mate. The song was both autobiographical and a tribute to his sister. Watching the video back in 1983, it told a story that I figured had a deeper meaning than what met the eye. I learned later that his sister Rene gave Ray Davies his first guitar. She had a rheumatic heart and passed away that night. He was 13 and had been begging his parents for that particular guitar for a while.
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Yes. And there was a reason for that Moog, mate. The song was both autobiographical and a tribute to his sister. Watching the video back in 1983, it told a story that I figured had a deeper meaning than what met the eye. I learned later that his sister Rene gave Ray Davies his first guitar. She had a rheumatic heart and passed away that night. He was 13 and had been begging his parents for that particular guitar for a while.
Wow. Hadn't heard that story. That's heart rending. :'(
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I really like this song from Ray from a few years ago.
http://youtu.be/2UTMVFCvVeI (http://youtu.be/2UTMVFCvVeI)
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Wow. Hadn't heard that story. That's heart rending. :'(
I hadn't heard that, either. :( Thanks for sharing the background of the song.
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Cliff Richard did pretty well in the 70's and later!
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Haha! Thanks Tamara. You mention Cliff Richard and there goes my thread. Lol!
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Sorry Bobber, ha ha!
But can we state that almost all bands from the first British Invasion (1964) were almost all gone from the charts ten years later? Interesting that bands from a little later (2nd half sixties) had more power to change and last longer. Moody Blues, Pink Floyd for example.
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Cliff did manage to maintain a level of success through several decades. I can honestly state that nothing he did I have any interest in at all.
Even Wired for Sound didn't change my mind.
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The much-maligned Cliff made about 10 great rock 'n' roll sides in Britain circa '58-'60.
He and The Shadows contribution to The Beatles success are the most neglected and under-rated of all the influences The Beatles clearly had pre-'Love Me Do'.
One observation.....would The Beatles, without them, have been afforded an album release as early as they were?
Billy Fury, hitting his peak in about 1960, wasn't.
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They had one final big hit here in the United States with Come Dancing in 1983...
"Do It Again" had pretty decent success in 84' and was a much better song. Probably in my top 5 Kinks tunes ever. It didn't have the chart success that 'Come Dancing' had, but its the last Kinks song I remember getting regular air play on the radio.
The Kinks - Do It Again (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voCM0eUyG2c#)
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Cliff did manage to maintain a level of success through several decades. I can honestly state that nothing he did I have any interest in at all.
Even Wired for Sound didn't change my mind.
Not much of a Cliff fan, but I always loved 'Devil Woman'
Cliff Richard - Devil Woman [HQ stereo] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tuAkdlLhTE#ws)
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Sorry Bobber, ha ha!
But can we state that almost all bands from the first British Invasion (1964) were almost all gone from the charts ten years later? Interesting that bands from a little later (2nd half sixties) had more power to change and last longer. Moody Blues, Pink Floyd for example.
I suppose it was just natural attrition. Those bands were great with the early 60s sound but couldn't make the transition to the later rock styles.
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The Stones, The Who, The Pretty Things and The Kinks may have adapted their sound (a.k.a. got bland) for the FM Radio market in the 1970s, but I wouldn't swap it for any of their '63-'69 stuff.
In the case of The Kinks, I've been known to do a sub-10 second 100 metres to get away from their post-'Arthur' material.
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Besides 'SF Sorrow', The Pretty Things 70's output was better then their 60's stuff. 'Parachute', 'Silk Torpedo', and 'Freeway Madness' are all great albums. The 60's self titled, 'Get The Picture', and 'Emotions',,,not so much.
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.....but my favourite albums of theirs ARE 'Get The Picture' and 'Emotions'!
If you took a straw poll in London, among anyone who'd actually ever heard of them (alas, in 2014 that would be a very, very small number) the 60s LPs would win hands down, as in Britain they were virtually invisible after about 1966.
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as in Britain they were virtually invisible after about 1966.
That's the same with the rest of the world too. ha2ha
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They had one final big hit here in the United States with Come Dancing in 1983...
The Kinks - Come Dancing ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiKgQYxUnTs#[/url])
I love that video!
Me too and I really wanted to see it again but three years later it’s still missing. Bummer!
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Me too and I really wanted to see it again but three years later it’s still missing. Bummer!
It's been blocked, like so many others. But you can watch it in this format. Just tilt your head to the left...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTG7hnnqD5w# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTG7hnnqD5w#)
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Or if four people want to watch it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1G42tdS2mw# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1G42tdS2mw#)
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Or if you don't mind watching it in someone else's living room...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edhPskVwzbE# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edhPskVwzbE#)
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I saw those but I was kinda hoping you’d come up with something better! I finally settled on the last one, in someone else’s living room, because I’m all out of Dramamine.
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Yeah. It's in HD so you can put it in full screen. It's okay that way.
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It was good. :)
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It's only natural.
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Enjoy this extended 2016 remaster with more big band at the end...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSHuam6ntuo# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSHuam6ntuo#)
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I saw those but I was kinda hoping you’d come up with something better!
Dailymotion:
Kinks - Come Dancing (1983) by Retrospective - Dailymotion (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3xpzk7)
Cropped a bit for Widescreen HD, Kelley, but still good.
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And uncropped...
The Kinks - Come dancing par Le loup de l'île aux marins de SPM - Dailymotion (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1ufrp)
The video quality was not better than this in the original video I posted three years ago.
Dailymotion is a great source for videos you might not find on YouTube like this one here...
Pans People - Paperback Writer - TOTP TX: 08/04/1976 by One For The Dads - Dailymotion (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3kkahw)
Top Of The Pops 8 April 1976
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Manfred Mann did pretty well with his Earth Band!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGB4l87-024# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGB4l87-024#)