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Beatles Meeting with Jayne Mansfield '64
« on: January 17, 2007, 08:40:07 PM »

Here a link to the meeting of The Beatles & Jayne Mansfield, including very rare pictures of the incident at the Whiskey-a-Go-Go (August 26th, 1964). Don't miss it

http://thebeatlesconnection.blogspot.com


I hope you enjoy it
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Re: Beatles Meeting with Jayne Mansfield '64
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2007, 10:01:35 PM »

There's something really scary about that last remark from John :-/ ... by the way, do you know the source? ??)
Thanks a-gain, calitoleon ... and, as usual, I'd like that everybody could enjoy those wonderful articles!!! :)
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Re: Beatles Meeting with Jayne Mansfield '64
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2007, 10:20:19 PM »

I heard John and Jayne hooked up later.
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Re: Beatles Meeting with Jayne Mansfield '64
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2007, 10:27:43 PM »

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I heard John and Jayne hooked up later.




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Re: Beatles Meeting with Jayne Mansfield '64
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2007, 10:39:07 PM »

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I heard John and Jayne hooked up later.


Could you be thinking about John meeting Brigitte Bardot in 1968, Mairi?  ??)
http://www.triumphpc.com/mersey-beat/beatles/bardot.shtml

from here: http://dmbeatles.com/forums/b-lennon/m-1151564620/s-all/  
(some funny anecdotes there^)
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Re: Beatles Meeting with Jayne Mansfield '64
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2007, 11:53:50 PM »

Nope, pretty sure it was Jayne.
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Re: Beatles Meeting with Jayne Mansfield '64
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2007, 01:08:50 AM »

I thought that when they met her they were dissapointed and thought she looked old and worn out or something. Not that that would stop a guy, but I thought I remembered reading one of them say that. And that also they laughed and made fun of her when she left because she was still trying to be all sexy. I couldn't be imagining this could I?
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Re: Beatles Meeting with Jayne Mansfield '64
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2007, 03:39:11 AM »

She did look old and worn out though. Here's a quote from the Beatles Feb 65' interview with playboy about Jayne.

George: And Jayne Mansfield. Playboy made her.  

Paul: She's a bit different, isn't she? *Different*.

Ringo: She's soft.  

George: Soft and warm.  

Paul: Actually, she's a clot.  

Ringo: Says Paul, the god of the Beatles.  

Paul: I didn't mean it, Beatle people! Actually, I haven't even met her. But you won't print that anyway, of course, because Playboy is very *pro* Mansfield. They think she's a rave. But she really is an old bag.

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Re: Beatles Meeting with Jayne Mansfield '64
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2007, 04:19:25 AM »

Heh, heh, heh. That's really mean, but for some reason it makes me laugh. See, if this was what we could expect from Paul as a judge on American Idol I'd actually be looking forward to it. He'd easily replace Simon as resident nasty Brit. I think I much prefer real Paul to glossed over PR man Paul.

BTW, Thank you tk! I now have a quote to put under my avatar!
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Re: Beatles Meeting with Jayne Mansfield '64
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2007, 12:25:31 PM »

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There's something really scary about that last remark from John :-/ ... by the way, do you know the source? ??)
Thanks a-gain, calitoleon ... and, as usual, I'd like that everybody could enjoy those wonderful articles!!! :)

Any chance of a translation ole fella? ;)
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Re: Beatles Meeting with Jayne Mansfield '64
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2007, 12:36:17 PM »

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Any chance of a translation ole fella? ;)
Oh, I had to have seen this coming  ;)

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Re: Beatles Meeting with Jayne Mansfield '64
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2007, 12:38:49 PM »

Hee hee! ;D
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Re: Beatles Meeting with Jayne Mansfield '64
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2007, 03:27:14 PM »

Thanks for that calitoleon.
The rumour is that John maybe had a fling with Jayne.Definitely not with Bardot.
Jayne starred in 'The Girl can't help It', which was the Beatles' favourite movie.They stopped recording Helter Skelter to watch it on TV (In the sixties you couldn't record programmes).
She's also in the photos on the inside cover of Beatles For Sale.
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Re: Beatles Meeting with Jayne Mansfield '64
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2007, 05:11:22 PM »

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Jayne starred in 'The Girl can't help It', which was the Beatles' favourite movie.They stopped recording Helter Skelter to watch it on TV (In the sixties you couldn't record programmes).
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I had always thought that it was Birthday ...

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Re: Beatles Meeting with Jayne Mansfield '64
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2007, 06:21:22 PM »

You're right Raxo!
They started the session early, went to Paul's house to see the film and then finished the song afterwards.
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Re: Beatles Meeting with Jayne Mansfield '64
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2007, 06:33:39 PM »

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You're right Raxo!
They started the session early, went to Paul's house to see the film and then finished the song afterwards.

That's what I had read!  ;D
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Re: Beatles Meeting with Jayne Mansfield '64
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2007, 12:14:34 AM »

I sometimes get mixed up, but wasnt John infatuated with Bridget Bardot? I thought I read numerous times that he always had a crush on her (even having Cynthia dress like her) and Bardot had actually turned him down once. I'm probably wrong, but I swear thats how I remember it.

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Re: Beatles Meeting with Jayne Mansfield '64
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2007, 08:18:51 AM »

They all had a crush for BB.
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Re: Beatles Meeting with Jayne Mansfield '64
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2007, 01:27:26 PM »

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Any chance of a translation ole fella? ;)



The Beatles and their hectic meeting with Jayne Mansfield - ''Whiskey-a-Go-Go'' Hollywood, California (August 26, 1964)
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Jayne Mansfield was a platinum blonde, born in 1933, especially famous for being a sex symbol in mid 50's, starred in ''The Girl Can't Help It'' (1956) and ''Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?'' (1957), a 20th Century Fox star by then, when this major film studios began to have problems with Marilyn Monroe and decided to duplicate her, a bad copy would be better to say ... but Mansfield soon believed in her own publicity. She imagined herself as much or even bigger than Monroe and she spent all her time starring headlines of scandals, her habit for drinking, her addiction for pills for hysterics, for getting up, for sleeping, etc ... this would happen especially in the last part of her life around June 29, 1967 when she died in a tragic car accident ... (Newspapers said she was decapitated, but it was not so).

But the reason for this brief review of Jayne Mansfield is not to describe her artistic achievements (if she had any), nor to talk about her physical attributes ... we're trying to place the moment in which the Hollywood star was when she met The Beatles... Marilyn Monroe's death (August 5, 1962) was the end of blonde bombs' era, while the sexual revolution in USA was finishing with the "bad girls" roles in films, so Jayne Mansfield was facing up to a crisis of popularity by 1964, when she met The Beatles. Mansfield's career was descendent by that time, making only ''B'' films (low in quality and budget). In 1964, Mansfield was also doing tours in classless night clubs and made some sporadic TV appearances. She was going to get married (after a recent divorce) to the film director Matt Cimber, who was her manager too ...



Going back in time till 1956, John Lennon, Paul McCartney and George Harrison were among the rock 'n' roll fans that went to the cinemas to see the ''The Girl Cant Help It'' film, one classic of its time, with a constellation of rock 'n' roll stars such: Little Richard, The Platters, Eddie Cochran, Gene Vincent, Fats Domino, and with the voluptuous actress Jayne Mansfield (playing the role of Jerri Jordan), that would become till that moment on one of sexual fantasies of those teen Beatles.
Who would guess that destiny would get these characters together 8 years later (in 1964) in different situations: The Beatles as the biggest act in the world and Jayne Mansfield with her career extinguishing and needing urgently of publicity to get back to the headlines.


PRESS CONFERENCE AT THE''CINNAMON CINDER'', LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA

On Sunday, August 23, 1964 (7:30 pm), in the middle of their American tour, The Beatles were in Los Angeles, California giving a press conference at the teen night club called ''Cinnamon Cinder'' (2 hours later they would play at the ''Hollywood Bowl'').

-Journalist: Would you like to make a film in Hollywood?
-John Lennon: Yeah
-George Harrison: We don't mind, but we make the film where the company thinks it's suitable.
-John Lennon: ...and cheaper (laughter)
-Journalist: What movie actors would you like to meet in Hollywood?
-Ringo Starr: Paul Newman
-Journalist: What about actresses?"
-Paul McCartney: Jayne Mansfield
Chris Hutchins, a ''New Musical Express'' magazine reporter, who was close to The Beatles (he would arrange the meeting between The Beatles and Elvis Presley in 1965) took advantage of this McCartney's wish from the press conference.
Hutchins was precisely at the press conference and approached McCartney. ''Seriously, Paul, would you really like to meet Jayne Mansfield?''... McCartney nodded.



Immediately, a note written using a pencil was given to Derek Taylor, The Beatles' press agent.
The message said: ''Derek, Paul stated that he would like to meet Jayne Mansfield.
If I can arrange it, could I have the photos and the story?''
''Do you think you can arrange a date?'' was Taylor's answer, that was answered affirm.
A half an hour later, to ultimate details for the meeting ---originally thought as a Paul McCartney & Jayne Mansfield meeting only-- it was talked to Derek Taylor in the backstage of the ''Hollywood Bowl''. Next day, August 24 --while The Beatles were taking a rest in the rented mansion in Bel Air, Derek Taylor called Matt Cimber (Jayne Mansfield's boyfriend and manager).


THE BEATLES POSING BY THE SWIMINGPOOL OF THE RENTED MANSION IN BEL AIR

By then, not only McCartney but the other three Beatles wished to meet Jayne Mansfield too, but they refused to have them photographed with the blonde bomb ...Paul McCartney was the only one who was determined. Mansfield's manager's idea was that The Beatles would have being drinking some tea, poured by Jayne Mansfield, all by the swimming pool. It was publicity thanks to The Beatles' fame.


JOHN LENNON AND JAYNE MANSFIELD AT THE ''WHISKEY-a-GO-GO''

The Beatles wanted to meet Mansfield, better if she came to their mansion in Bel Air, but without photos, because it was a Brian Epstein's habitual rule to avoid photos with celebrities.
A new problem, agreement between The Beatles' diary and Jayne Mansfield's, who had obligations for the whole week at the Anaheim night club ... time was short because The Beatles would only be available for a couple of days (until August 26), when they would left to Denver with their tour, but Jayne Mansfield didn't want to miss such an opportunity to be in the headlines, because it was and it would be, for the group's entire career, the only time The Beatles invited a female film star to their home to meet her.



August 25, The Beatles lost hope of meeting the voluptuous blonde, so they accepted one invitation from the actor Burt Lancaster to have dinner and to see the ''A Shot In The Dark'' film (starring Peter Sellers and Elke Sommer) at his house, being John Lennon alone at the Bel Air house, who seized the opportunity to receive some guests and to give some interviews.
For Lennon surprise, that midnight Jayne Mansfield appeared at the Bel Air mansion entrance.
There and witnessing this indescribable scene were: Bess Coleman, Derek Taylor, Mal Evans, Neil Aspinall, her manager and boyfriend Matt Cimber, an assistant and two Jayne Mansfield's bodyguards.



Jayne, was wearing one Persian cat coat, and Lennon told her ''I was dying to meet you, Miss Mansfield'', to what she corrected him by saying, ''Call me just Jaynie'', adding, ''I was also dying to meet all of you, wonderful guys---but where are the others?''.
Then Mansfield suggestively caressed Lennon's hair, whispering: ''Is it your real hair?'' and Lennon answered, taking a look at her prominent bust, the most famous attribute of Mansfield, ''Well, and are those real?''... to which Mansfield, without turning a hair, answered: ''There's only one way of ascertaining that, ain't there?''




Lennon mixed cocktails for her and her assistants, mixing gin, vodka, red wine and cocaine as the ''secret ingredient''...Jayne asked her friend to read her the Tarot, for her and Lennon.
Her friend began the cast and suddenly he dropped them horrified,  exclaiming, ''Oh my God, this is terrible, I see a tragic end for both of you in all this" (right prediction, as it's said before Jayne Mansfield died three years later victim of one car accident and Lennon was shot in 1980). By hearing this, Lennon got angry and threw the cards.



Chris Hutchins suggested Lennon to take Jayne Mansfield and her retinue to the famous pub ''Whiskey-a-Go-Go'' on Sunset Boulevard and maybe to dance the watusi.
Lennon liked the idea but Hutchins warned him that the other Beatles would never forgive him if he didn't tell them of this date with Jayne Mansfield. And because of Lennon couldn't be alone with the blonde actress--as he wished--because of the presence of Matt Cimber, her boyfriend  and manager and the Mansfield's bodyguards, he had to leave a telephone message to Harrison and Starr to search for them at the ''Whiskey-a-Go-Go''.
Actually, Lennon was angry because of the presence of Mansfield's boyfriend, because his intentions were different. George Harrison and Ringo Starr, already a little drunken after the dinner with Burt Lancaster, went rapidly to join Lennon. The paradox, Paul McCartney who had originally caused it was not present at any moment, because it was supposed that he disappeared to have a romantic and secret date with the actress Peggy Lipton, who he met the previous evening.



Entering 'Whiskey-a-Go-Go' was terribly complicated, because the three Beatles:
Lennon, Harrison and Starr, wanted to go unnoticed and not to be annoyed or photographed ---obviously Jayne Mansfield's interest was the contrary, she wanted to exploit the situation, so she might have made some telephone calls to the press and the paparazzi of Hollywood went rapidly where they were.
It took the Beatles twenty minutes to get from the door to their table, because everybody wanted to be near them.


JAYNE MANSFIELD BETWEEN HARRISON AND LENNON

At the table and calm, Lennon disclosed Jayne Mansfield about the ''secret ingredient'' which he had mixed the cocktails at the Bel Air mansion, they also talked about poetry and the Shakespeare Festival of that year, about John's new book and Mansfield's new album (she had recorded several LP's ) the one titled ''Tchaikovsky, Shakespeare & Me''.
Close to the table, the actress Mamie Van Doren, another blonde celebrity and a competitor to Jayne Mansfield was at the ''Whiskey-a-Go-Go'', who came to greet and meet The Beatles, but it seems that they didn't know her.



Mansfield was sitting between Lennon and Harrison, supposedly she had her hands very busy caressing either side of both the Beatles' ''groins'' (one story confirmed by Harrison in the Anthology
Suddenly or with some help (we guess) one photographer came to the table where the group were and began to take photos with a powerful flash, very quickly.
Harrison upset and very drunkenly threw one glass of whiskey & Coca Cola over photographer, but accidentally knocked over a bucket of ice, soaking actress Mamie Van Doren's face, who was close to the table. (Harrison, denied this, because he said that the ice was melted in the glass and that it was only liquid what he spilt over the face of the actress, but Mamie Van Doren in her autobiography ''Playing The Field'' stated that it was a bucket of ice that hit her in the face.


DRUNKEN GEORGE HARRISON THROWING WHISKEY AND COCA COLA TO A PHOTOGRAPHER

A racket was kicked up at the ''Whiskey-a-Go-Go'', so big that there was no way of exit from there, because everybody was surrounding there. Mansfield's bodyguards lifted George Harrison and Ringo Starr up in the air in order to take them out of the place, because people were trying to get near them. On the next day, a pair of photos of the incident appeared in the 'Herald Examiner'' daily, where one drunken and annoyed George Harrison can be seen.
Exclusively, ''The Beatles Connection'' offer you some photos of ''Whiskey-a-Go-Go'' incident, one of the least known situations in which The Beatles  were involved.


GEORGE HARRISON TRY TO GET OUT OF''WHISKEY-a-GO-GO, AFTER THE INCIDENT WITH THE PHOTOGRAPHER TO AVOID PRESS AND CURIOUS HARASSMENT

Jayne Mansfield stated later: ''Unfortunately, we couldn't have privacy. To enter ''Whiskey-a-Go-Go'' you've got to be 21-year-old, but all the adult people who were there were acting as teens.''
Jayne Mansfield described The Beatles in this way: ''John is very ingenious and funny...George is really great. So relaxed and polite. Ringo is adorable, very reserved. He doesn't say a word at all, unless it's something important...''
What did Jayne Mansfield think of Paul McCartney, the one who started all this and never met Jayne Mansfield? ''Paul and I couldn't meet each other; he lost all the joy...''


GEORGE HARRISON IN THE AIR AND HELPED TO EXIT ''WHISKEY-a-GO-GO''
IN A CROWD TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL


JAYNE MANSFIELD - BEATLES RELATED TRIVIA
--September 18, 1968--years later of the premier, The Beatles interrupted one of the ''White Album'' recording sessions. They were recording takes of the ''Birthday'' song at Abbey Road Studios and they left the work to go with various people (including Yoko Ono, Pattie Harrison and Chris Thomas ) to Paul McCartney's house at Cavendish Avenue to see ''The Girl Can't Help It'' film on TV for the first time in England.
Hours later and influenced by the film, McCartney with more energy in his veins and with Little Richard and Fats Domino in mind restarted the ''Birthday'' session with everybody in support.

--Jayne Mansfield is shown in the inside cover of the ''Beatles For Sale'' album (designed by Robert Freeman). It was exactly in the inside of the album where a collage pic shows the group standing with a collection of images of films including Albert Finney, lan Carmichael, Victor Mature and Jayne Mansfield who appears near Paul McCartney.



--Jayne Mansfield died in a car accident in 1967. John Lennon always remembered that fact of the Tarot when she met Jayne Mansfield in 1964 and he was in alarm.
As it's known, Lennon was obsessed with numbers and, particularly, with number nine.
Lennon said to Chris Hutchins: ''Jayne was born on April 19 and died on June 29.
April is the forth month and June the sixth. If you put them together you have one ten. I was born on October 9, the ninth day of the tenth month.
Jayne Mansfield died two months after her birthday, that means that I'm going to die on one day with a nine, in the month of December.''
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Re: Beatles Meeting with Jayne Mansfield '64
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2007, 05:21:55 PM »

Thanks Raxo.It's amusing that Paul, whose idea it was, never met her.
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