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Title: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: nimrod on November 06, 2013, 10:14:09 PM
I'm a loser, I'm a loser
And I'm not what I appear to be
Of all the love I have won or have lost
There is one love I should never have crossed
She was a girl in a million, my friend
I should have known she would win in the end
I'm a loser, and I lost someone who's near to me
I'm a loser, and I'm not what I appear to be
Although I laugh and I act like a clown
Beneath this mask I am wearing a frown
My tears are falling like rain from the sky
Is it for her or myself that I cry
I'm a loser, and I lost someone who's near to me
I'm a loser, and I'm not what I appear to be
What I have done to deserve such a fate
I realize I have left it too late
And so it's true pride comes before a fall
I'm telling you so that you won't lose all
I'm a loser, and I lost someone who's near to me
I'm a loser, and I'm not what I appear to be


I always loved this song, it has one of my favourite lines from any Beatles song;

Although I laugh and I act like a clown
Beneath this mask, I am wearing a frown


Sort of summed up my teenage years.....brilliant line !
Johns voice fits perfectly on this song imo, in fact the whole thing is perfect, the only thing I would change is the harmonica, Id simply change it for another instrument...

In 1980, Lennon said the song was "me in my Dylan period" and added, "Part of me suspects I'm a loser and part of me thinks I'm God Almighty. " Country music and Bob Dylan were catalysts for the song. The country is in the fingerpicking, guitar twang and downhearted words; in 1964, the Beatles were listening to songs by Buck Owens and George Jones that McCartney said were "all about sadness." 
Musicologist Alan Pollack said the song contained "a stronger blend of folk elements than almost anything else The Beatles had done to-date
Lennon hits a low G in the verses, a note usually reserved for baritone and/or bass singers. This was atypical of Lennon; he sang the bulk of his Beatles songs in a tenor register. "I'm a Loser" does not mark the only occasion on which Lennon sang a low G, he also did so in "Happiness Is a Warm Gun".

The Beatles recorded this song on 14 August 1964, the same day as "Mr. Moonlight" and "Leave My Kitten Alone". It was recorded in eight takes with no overdubs.
It was released four months after it was recorded, but beforehand, it was previewed on BBC Radio on 17 November, along with three other songs from Beatles for Sale and also the "I Feel Fine"/"She's a Woman" single.


Personnel

John Lennon – lead vocals, harmonica, acoustic rhythm guitar
Paul McCartney – harmony vocal, bass guitar
George Harrison – lead guitar
Ringo Starr – drums, tambourine

Personnel per Ian MacDonald


I'm A Loser -Beatles For Sale (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUe-lXAoSZI#)
Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: Klang on November 06, 2013, 10:48:04 PM

I always liked it a lot. I picked up on the country tinges, but it struck me as very folky, too, at the time. Another example of something distinct and fairly unique by these guys hitting the airwaves.

 :)

Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: tkitna on November 07, 2013, 01:14:23 AM
One of my favorites. Probably a top ten for me.
Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on November 07, 2013, 02:16:35 AM
This is one of those little gems by the Beatles that fans have the fortune to discover and love. I love it too.
Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: KelMar on November 07, 2013, 04:07:25 AM
It's funny that this would appear as the song of the week because I actually heard it twice today. It was meant to be! I always thought of it as a country-ish song but now that it's been mentioned I do hear the folk aspect of it. It has some great lyrics; Is it for her or myself that I cry? stands out for me. Is he crying because he really misses her or does he just feel sorry for himself that he doesn't have anyone now? I also like And so it's true pride comes before a fall. I always wondered what that line was and then one day I heard it clear as a bell with no outside assistance. I was tempted to be proud of that but I didn't want to fall. I like the into a lot too. It gets right to the point. All in all a great song that I didn't mind hearing twice today.
Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 07, 2013, 04:08:51 AM
John was most certainly in his "Dylan Period" here.  I love this 1965 live performance in Paris...


The Beatles - I'm a Loser (Live In Paris, 1965) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xpv5hQAhtX8#)


I have an Elton harmonica holder just like that one which I bought in the 60s.  Playing Bob Dylan songs on guitar just about required it, along with the proper key harmonica.  John looks great wearing that harmonica holder!

John makes his typical face when he sings the line "And so it's true pride comes before a fall."  It's hard to set the words in proper cadence.  I've flubbed that line many times.  It sounds awful when I do.  It looks like John found a way to get that line right.  I've seen him do that in other live videos of this song too.

I like this song a lot!  I like Beatles For Sale a lot too and this song is so representative of the album's mood.  The Beatles were maturing and becoming introspective with this album
Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: KelMar on November 07, 2013, 04:13:25 AM
^^^

I was just going to go looking for that video!
Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 07, 2013, 04:15:45 AM
The Beatles recorded this song on 14 August 1964, the same day as "Mr. Moonlight" and "Leave My Kitten Alone".

The same day as Mr. Moonlight.  Now that's why I like Mr. Moonlight so much.  John was in top form that day!
Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 07, 2013, 04:16:12 AM
^^^

I was just going to go looking for that video!

No you don't have to.   :)
Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 07, 2013, 04:19:08 AM
Now if you don't have the proper key harmonica, just ask...


Bob Dylan - Anybody have an E Harmonica ? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ44hcHvNSQ#)



 ;D
Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: KelMar on November 07, 2013, 04:28:37 AM
No you don't have to.   :)


You were the one who showed it to me in the first place: http://www.dmbeatles.com/forums/index.php?topic=2330.msg271549#msg271549 (http://www.dmbeatles.com/forums/index.php?topic=2330.msg271549#msg271549)  ;)
Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 07, 2013, 04:40:18 AM
I'm A Loser

THE BEATLES CARTOON Ep13a I'm A Loser (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMcCSmsBbn8#)

We finished the picture and I'm giving you a bonus, boy.  My personal check for 12 dollars and 38 cents.
Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: nimrod on November 07, 2013, 04:45:11 AM
The same day as Mr. Moonlight.  Now that's why I like Mr. Moonlight so much.  John was in top form that day!

'Kitten' shouldve been on the bloody album Barry, its brilliant !
Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 07, 2013, 04:48:01 AM
'Kitten' shouldve been on the bloody album Barry, its brilliant !

I think so too, Kev.  I'd say so but I already get enough laughs when I say I love Mr. Moonlight.    ;D
Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: nimrod on November 07, 2013, 04:50:28 AM
Ive never been keen on Moonlight myself Baz, its a bit plodding for me, I hate the organ, it reminds me of a working mans club in 70's England.

Its all about what we like though isnt it, I cant really listen to Bob Dylan, the man gives me no pleasure at all.
Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: Hello Goodbye on November 07, 2013, 04:59:17 AM
Ive never been keen on Moonlight myself Baz, its a bit plodding for me, I hate the organ, it reminds me of a working mans club in 70's England.


I don't mind the organ.  But it gives the song an ice skating rink feel to it.

This is more like it...


The Beatles Mr. Moonlight StarClub 1962 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dy-qfbGgZQ#)


But there's no MISTERRRRRRR MOONLIGHT to start it off.

Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: KelMar on November 07, 2013, 05:11:51 AM



But there's no MISTERRRRRRR MOONLIGHT to start it off.

But we do get to hear John say Hear I am on my nose, begging if you please...twice.  ;D

When I was listening to Beatles for Sale earlier I decided to pretend I was listening to Mr. Moonlight for the first time, to see if I really liked it or it was just a habit. I do like it. I never thought maybe I shouldn't until I came here! LOL
Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: Normandie on November 08, 2013, 02:56:39 AM

"I'm a Loser" would definitely be in my top 10 list of absolute favorites. I love everything about it. Love the vocals, can identify so much with the lyrics. A great, great song.

In regard to Mr. Moonlight.......

I don't mind the organ.  But it gives the song an ice skating rink feel to it.

I have always thought the exact same thing!   ha2ha
Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: Dcazz on November 08, 2013, 01:28:11 PM
Years ago I read an interview from George about this period where he said that they were always amazed at the guitar sounds they heard from the USA but they had no clue how to make them. George said he just started bending strings and changing time to imitate the sounds he heard. I think that's where he got this unique C/W twang we hear on this and a few others (Baby's in Black). Later they learned how to use pedals. Very innovative.
Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: Normandie on February 27, 2022, 06:26:43 PM
"I'm a Loser" would definitely be in my top 10 list of absolute favorites. I love everything about it. Love the vocals, can identify so much with the lyrics. A great, great song.


Huh. I had no idea they'd played this live. It doesn't strike me as one they would choose to perform. Goes to show how much I know.  ;)

Anyway, I'm posting this now in case anyone needs a quick Beatles pick-me-up:

https://youtu.be/ukWRRNqMAZ4 (https://youtu.be/ukWRRNqMAZ4)
Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: nimrod on February 28, 2022, 12:46:40 AM
Thanks for posting that K. I really like Paul's Bass line on that and they look so happy !! Paul is looking at John like he's in awe of him.
Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: Hello Goodbye on February 28, 2022, 02:59:25 AM
Paul is looking at John like he's in awe of him.


Paul was probably thinking who John reminded him of...


(http://www.rockharadio.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/o-BOB-DYLAN-FIRST-NEW-YORK-CITY-PERFORMANCE-facebook-1.jpg)



Yes, John Lennon was entering his Bob Dylan phase...


(https://www.morrisonhotelgallery.com/images/medium/10243-BDY-12-final-150dpi.jpg)


(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/70/7b/ce/707bce16062a67f96618c59ccf5bde7f.jpg)


 ;D

Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: nimrod on February 28, 2022, 11:23:03 PM
Even had the mouth organ round his neck  ;D

I think The Beatles really loved Dylan, maybe except Ringo.
Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: Normandie on March 01, 2022, 12:02:18 AM
I really like Paul's Bass line on that and they look so happy !!

They do, don't they?  :) Just watching that clip makes me smile.

Even had the mouth organ round his neck  ;D

I've always been impressed by musicians who can play harmonica simultaneously with another instrument. I'm one of those people who can't walk and chew gum at the same time. 

Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: Hello Goodbye on March 01, 2022, 12:19:25 AM

I've always been impressed by musicians who can play harmonica simultaneously with another instrument.



Playing harmonica while playing rhythm guitar isn't difficult.  It's important that the harmonica is in the correct key...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ44hcHvNSQ# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ44hcHvNSQ#)

 ;D
Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: Hello Goodbye on March 01, 2022, 01:30:20 AM
Even had the mouth organ round his neck  ;D


And the Wayfarers and shirt...


(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/18/9d/37/189d3752afb79c7b0f8b4675a9bd29f1--blonde-on-blonde-famous-stars.jpg)


(https://hoppyx.com/wp-content/uploads/Beatles-1117-3-22A.jpg)





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_V6y1ZCg_8# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_V6y1ZCg_8#)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvKZDbAgh4Y# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvKZDbAgh4Y#)
Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: nimrod on March 01, 2022, 02:26:41 AM
Surely that's a Beatle shirt Baz  roll:)
Title: Re: Song Of The Week - Im A Loser
Post by: Hello Goodbye on March 01, 2022, 05:08:01 AM
You're right Kev.  The photo of John Lennon was taken in November 1964.  The photo of Bob Dylan was taken in January 1965.