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Arthur Alexander
« on: February 22, 2004, 11:28:27 AM »

I have been interested in the Beatles' music for many years, and through that, I have discovered many other great artists who deserve greater recognition. I'm talking about the artists who influenced THEM.

Just take their first LP (album) for example - they were clearly huge fans of girl groups such as The Shirelles (Baby It's You and Boys), The Cookies (Chains) and the songwriting of Gerry Goffin and Carol King, and R 'n' B artists such as Arthur Alexander (Anna - Go To Him) and The Isley Brothers (Twist and Shout). Their set usually included a few "standards" (A Taste Of Honey), mostly culled from hit musicals of the day as well... but I wont dwell on those too much!

Arthur Alexander was a massive influence on the early songwriting of John, he was also the reason why the word "girl" appeared in so many of John's songs (Hello Little Girl, Girl, You're Going To Lose That Girl, "I'd rather see you dead little girl..." etc). Alexander wrote most of his own material, despite not being able to play an instrument let alone read music!

His influence on John Lennon is most notable on All I've Got To Do from With The Beatles. With its stark arrangemement of sharp, choppy guitars which counterpoint Ringo's playing of the closed hi-hat and snare during the verses, this an Alexander trademark. John's phrasing of "I" (from "When ever I..... want you around, yeah") is especially revealing as to his influences - just listen to "You Better Move On".

The fact that The Beatles covered 4 of Alexander's songs is also a testament to the high regard the group had for him:

Where Have You Been All My Life - Star Club
Anna (Go To Him) - Please Please Me LP
A Shot Of Rhythm And Blues - BBC
Soldier Of Love - BBC

Other notable artists who have covered Arthur Alexander's songs:

The Rolling Stones - You Better Move On
Dusty Springfield - Every Day I Have To Cry
Elvis Presley - Burning Love
Ry Cooder - Go On Home Girl
The End - Dream Girl (had to slip that one in!)

But like most black artists around at that time, Alexander was ripped off. He hardly saw a penny of the publishing rights that should have made him a very rich man. And eventually, disillusioned, he retired from the music industry and became a school bus driver.

In the mid 1990's, Alexander was tempted back into the recording studio, and recorded a new album - Lonely Just like Me. This received very good reviews which led to Alexander signing a new recording contract and negotiating back the rights to his old songs. He was in the office of the record company, in the middle of negotiations, when he said he felt a bit ill - Alexander then collapsed and died. This was a true tragedy and a huge loss of one of Rocks greatest influences.

Most of this was originally posted on the old forum, but it took me so long to write that I thought I'd better save it!
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Re: Arthur Alexander
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2004, 02:58:59 PM »

That was a very informative post The End. :) It's sad to know Alexander had to be a bus driver with all that talent
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Re: Arthur Alexander
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2004, 12:55:03 AM »

i loved authurs music....tradgey will befall us all.........
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Re: Arthur Alexander
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2004, 10:13:34 PM »

Alexander the Great so to speak.
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Re: Arthur Alexander
« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2004, 01:49:25 AM »

i think the fans influenced the beatles alot because at the bar the germans would shout requests.so after a while the beatles knew how to rock the auidence.
kinda like jim morrison played to the crowd and could incite them.he thought he had power over them.this also goes along the theme of pete townsends third rock opera.which was sadly scrapped.it was titled life house and it was about a band who gain control over the masses thru music.some of the songs wound on whos next.thats why the name of baba o'reily has teenage waste land after it.
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Re: Arthur Alexander
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2004, 09:37:21 PM »


Burning Love was written by Dennis Linde.
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Re: Arthur Alexander
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2004, 11:50:33 PM »

[quote by=Wolf link=Blah.pl?b=cc,m=1077449307,s=5 date=1078436241]
Burning Love was written by Dennis Linde.[/quote]

Yep, not all the tracks I mentioned were written by Alexander but he either recorded them first or at least popularised them.

Burning Love, along with I'm Comin' Home and Call Me honey, were written by Linde for Alexander's eponymous Warner Bros LP, released in 1972.
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Re: Arthur Alexander
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2004, 03:04:55 AM »

was this discussion over????????i would like charlies take and rias too......
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Re: Arthur Alexander
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2004, 06:04:59 AM »

Well, Alan did such an excellent job enumerating the influences and musical loves of the group that there is little to add.

They were influenced by almost EVERYTHING: rock n roll, pop, music hall, blues, r&b, broadway, spector, everlys...and this was all before they hit it big. 

They all had *excellent* tastes in music, especially American idioms. 

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Re: Arthur Alexander
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2004, 12:24:35 AM »

....L.S.D.
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Re: Arthur Alexander
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2004, 01:47:53 AM »

thats the biggest load of rubbished i ever read..............lol
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Re: Arthur Alexander
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2004, 04:32:50 AM »

No, I think that LSD was a pretty big influence on their later music.  Songs like "I Am the Walrus" don't just come out of nowhere.

Don't forget the old bluesmen as influences.  Robert Johnson, Son House, Muddy Waters.  I love it when they play "They're Red Hot".  Or I think their version is called "My Girl is Red Hot" rather.
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Re: Arthur Alexander
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2004, 11:05:56 AM »

buddy holly and little richard were big influences ...
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Re: Arthur Alexander
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2004, 09:57:00 PM »

[quote by=strutter84 link=Blah.pl?b=cc,m=1077449307,s=11 date=1091593970]No, I think that LSD was a pretty big influence on their later music.
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Re: Arthur Alexander
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2004, 10:59:33 PM »

Chuck Berry.

I really Like Berry's Lyrics, Lennon admired the detail and depth each Berry*song contained.
 He is like the Rock N Roll template.

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Re: Arthur Alexander
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2004, 08:31:05 AM »

well, i could say Buddy Holly influenced Lennon's style of singing...
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Re: Arthur Alexander
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2004, 10:07:02 AM »

[quote by=Mr_Kite link=Blah.pl?b=cc,m=1077449307,s=12 date=1091617556]buddy holly and little richard were big influences ...[/quote]
no way little richard was a small guy so he was a small big influence.
yeah lsd altered there perceptions and had influence but i thought it was an in general question....
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Re: Arthur Alexander
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2004, 10:11:02 AM »

Their mum and dad's?
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« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2004, 10:12:36 AM »

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Re: Arthur Alexander
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2004, 05:44:23 AM »

Little Richard too

it influenced paul to write I'm Down...
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