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Solo forums => Fifth Beatles and the Merseybeat Scene => Topic started by: NGM on May 13, 2004, 12:50:14 AM

Title: stu sutcliffe
Post by: NGM on May 13, 2004, 12:50:14 AM
How exactly did stu join the beatles? I've read a lot of magazines and  books but they never told me how he met them.
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: tkitna on May 13, 2004, 01:33:21 AM
John met Stu in art school and they became friends. Stu sold one of his paintings at an exhibition and John and Paul talked him into spending the money on a Hofner President bass so he could join the band. He bought it and joined.
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: pc31 on May 13, 2004, 10:44:28 AM
john told him it was a good way to get girls.i think paul had little to do with it.
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: pc31 on August 24, 2004, 08:42:46 PM
on a different note pauls a puss y.....lol here is what bill harry said about stu
http://www.geocities.com/imagine_80_jwl/stuart8.html
and a few links too
http://www.geocities.com/beat1ebum/sutcliffe.html
http://www.geocities.com/beat1ebum/sutcliffe.html
http://www.geocities.com/imagine_80_jwl/Stuart1.html
http://originalonefeather.tripod.com/id9.html
oh last but not least i hope
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: on August 24, 2004, 11:45:39 PM
Bill Harry is a bigger female genitalia than Paul, easily.

He's known to be quite the bullsh*tter.
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: Indica on August 26, 2004, 10:02:42 PM
Bill Harry is a Journalist..Bullsh*t is part of the Makeup..
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: pc31 on August 28, 2004, 10:02:57 AM
hot story + many sales = much money
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: on August 28, 2004, 10:03:29 AM
you said it
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: on August 28, 2004, 04:02:30 PM
[quote by=IndicaWalrus link=Blah.pl?b=fifths,m=1084409414,s=5 date=1093557762]Bill Harry is a Journalist..Bullsh*t is part of the Makeup..[/quote]

In greater dollops than others, apparently.

Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: pc31 on August 29, 2004, 01:48:59 AM
huh?(http://tinypic.com/3exwp)
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: An Apple Beatle on January 30, 2005, 09:25:09 PM
Has Chaz been seen at all of late?
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: Mairi on January 30, 2005, 10:36:57 PM
Not since Christmas. :(
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: Lenny Pane on January 31, 2005, 12:12:54 PM
Quote from: IndicaWalrus
Bill Harry is a Journalist..Bullsh*t is part of the Makeup..

like you said indica.. bullsh*t and journalism goes together like a cup of Tea and a cigarette :)
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: pc31 on June 05, 2005, 01:19:30 AM
i found this
UNK/61   RECORDINGS:   Stu Sutcliffe wrote a few songs.  Whether they were recorded is unknown.  They were not released, but only mentioned at an auction in 1968.  Even the titles are unknown.  What I offer have been taken from his handwritten lyrics.
OOH, OOH, OOH S:  UNK  W:  Stu Sutcliffe   Unreleased.
YEA COS YOU
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: Mairi on June 05, 2005, 04:53:19 PM
That is verrrrrrry interesting!
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: Xose on May 30, 2011, 10:24:56 AM
Excuse me for going back to this thread after so long...

I remember I read somewhere -time ago- that Stuart's father had presented him with a Spanish guitar after one of his trips to Spain. Does anybody know something about this subject??

Thanks in advance and best wishes!!  ;)

Xosé
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: Bobber on May 30, 2011, 10:28:07 AM
http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/mol/exhibitions/sutcliffe/guitar.asp (http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/mol/exhibitions/sutcliffe/guitar.asp)
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: Xose on May 30, 2011, 10:39:11 AM
Thank you, Bobber!! ;)

[url]http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/mol/exhibitions/sutcliffe/guitar.asp[/url] ([url]http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/mol/exhibitions/sutcliffe/guitar.asp[/url])


Yes: I know that guitar. But I don't think that was the guitar purchased by Sutcliffe's father in Spain (=supossedly, the story I read is true...)

Have anyone heard about this story??

Xosé
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: Xose on May 30, 2011, 10:40:57 AM
BTW: any clues about Stuart's recordings collection??

Best!! ;)

Xosé
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: Bobber on May 30, 2011, 10:44:23 AM
There seems to be something about this in Spitz' book. I have it at home. I'll check, but it's not known for its reliability.
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: Xose on May 30, 2011, 10:45:36 AM
There seems to be something about this in Spitz' book. I have it at home. I'll check...

Excellent... Thank you very much, Bobber!! ;)

Xosé
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: peterbell1 on June 01, 2011, 07:07:46 PM
Thank you, Bobber!! ;)

Yes: I know that guitar. But I don't think that was the guitar purchased by Sutcliffe's father in Spain (=supossedly, the story I read is true...)

Have anyone heard about this story??

Xosé


The following site has a passage attributed to Bill Harry which includes the mention of Stu's father bringing him his first acoustic guitar back from a holiday in Spain.

http://www.the-beatles-history.com/stu-sutcliffe.html (http://www.the-beatles-history.com/stu-sutcliffe.html)

I would assume that the guitar that Bobber posted a link to was the same instrument. Why don't you think that it is the same one, Xosé?
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: Xose on June 01, 2011, 09:45:12 PM
Hello peterbell1,

Thank you very much!! ;)

The following site has a passage attributed to Bill Harry which includes the mention of Stu's father bringing him his first acoustic guitar back from a holiday in Spain.

[url]http://www.the-beatles-history.com/stu-sutcliffe.html[/url] ([url]http://www.the-beatles-history.com/stu-sutcliffe.html[/url])

I would assume that the guitar that Bobber posted a link to was the same instrument. Why don't you think that it is the same one, Xosé?


Well. That is not the type of guitar available in Spain at those times. In fact, that guitar doesn't look like a Spanish guitar, but -IMHO- a kind of acoustic guitar (=fret markers, headstock...)

Best!! ;)

Xosé
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: Bobber on June 02, 2011, 12:16:59 PM
There seems to be something about this in Spitz' book. I have it at home. I'll check, but it's not known for its reliability.


There wasn't much, just the note that Stu's father 'taught him some chords on the guitar'. But then there isn't much in that book at all, so what can you expect? ;D
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: Bobber on June 02, 2011, 12:50:39 PM
Hello peterbell1,

Thank you very much!! ;)

Well. That is not the type of guitar available in Spain at those times. In fact, that guitar doesn't look like a Spanish guitar, but -IMHO- a kind of acoustic guitar (=fret markers, headstock...)

Best!! ;)

Xosé

Is it strange or impossible to buy a guitar like that in Spain anyway?
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: Xose on June 03, 2011, 09:09:09 AM
There wasn't much, just the note that Stu's father 'taught him some chords on the guitar'. But then there isn't much in that book at all, so what can you expect? ;D

Thanks anyway, Bobber!! ;)

Is it strange or impossible to buy a guitar like that in Spain anyway?

Well: at those times (=end fifties??) it would be very strange to find a guitar like that in Spain (=of course, I can't say impossible...)

Besides: if Stu's father was in Spain, and if he was intending to purchase a guitar for his son in Spain..., shouldn't he have purchased a real Spanish guitar??

Xosé
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: Bobber on June 03, 2011, 09:17:06 AM
Yes, it's a logical thing to buy a Spanish guitar when you're in Spain. ;D
But then we don't even know if Stu's father really went to Spain, do we? I mean, the guitar pictured before could very well be Stuart's first guitar, not bought in Spain but somewhere else.
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: peterbell1 on June 03, 2011, 09:27:24 AM
Maybe the guitar did indeed come from Spain, but perhaps it is just a cheap model which was put together mainly for tourists, which is why it doesn't have the characteristics of "real" Spanish guitars of the time.
It looks like a cheap guitar to me - it's hard to tell from that picture, but the headstock with the line down the middle and the tuning pegs just don't look like what you would expect to see on a more expensive guitar.
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: Xose on June 03, 2011, 01:26:03 PM
...But then we don't even know if Stu's father really went to Spain, do we? I mean, the guitar pictured before could very well be Stuart's first guitar, not bought in Spain but somewhere else.

Well: Bill Harry said that Pauline Sutcliffe told him that their father bought a guitar in Spain for Stu...

Maybe the guitar did indeed come from Spain, but perhaps it is just a cheap model which was put together mainly for tourists, which is why it doesn't have the characteristics of "real" Spanish guitars of the time...

I don't think so. There were cheap guitars available for tourists, but they did display (=in one way or another) "real" Spanish guitar features.

IMHO, that guitar doesn't display Spanish guitar features...

Xosé
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: Bobber on June 06, 2011, 08:48:57 AM
So.... either that pictured guitar is not the genuine first guitar of Stuart Sutcliffe, or his father didn't buy it in Spain.
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: Xose on June 06, 2011, 08:57:38 AM
So.... either that pictured guitar is not the genuine first guitar of Stuart Sutcliffe, or his father didn't buy it in Spain.

That is exactly what I guess...

Xosé
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: pc31 on June 12, 2011, 03:05:09 PM
i never considered pauline a source of reliable info sorry...
Title: Re: stu sutcliffe
Post by: Badgirl66 on June 23, 2011, 08:19:22 AM
Happy Birthday Stuart today :(