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Title: Tutorials by request
Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on July 19, 2009, 12:50:42 AM
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Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: An Apple Beatle on July 19, 2009, 09:26:19 AM
Nice one Nelson. Good to have you aboard.  :)
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on July 19, 2009, 03:23:48 PM
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Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on July 20, 2009, 01:33:03 AM
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Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: alexis on July 20, 2009, 05:06:29 AM
Very nice, Mr. Nelson W  :)

Do you do keyboards too?

Do you know if John used a blues harmonica (no "button") or a chromatic (with "button")?

And finally, do you know how to do the intro guitar for "Every Little Thing"?

Gracias!
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: An Apple Beatle on July 20, 2009, 09:15:56 AM
A very thorough tutorial Nelson. I am personally ok for tutorials for now thanks, perhaps in the future. I mainly play bass you see! Just happy to see someone sharing the knowledge so well. :)

http://www.myspace.com/theapplebeatles (http://www.myspace.com/theapplebeatles) ;)
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on July 20, 2009, 10:50:28 AM
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Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: georgeharrisonluver on July 20, 2009, 04:36:09 PM
Thanks for the tutorial Nelson_Wilbury!

I liked how you showed both George's lead and John's rhythm parts as I'm interested in learning both.

I will probably ask for another tutorial when I get a better guitar (I am borrowing mine now). It's nice to have someone knowledgeable and wiling to share it with others.  :)
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: alexis on July 20, 2009, 08:19:26 PM
Hi Alexis!
I play keyboards too, but sadly I don't got one right now, but if I can help with something just ask.

John use a chromatic in "Love me do". In the solo there's a F - F# - G that is imposible to play with a blues harmonica. In the rest of the songs (I think) he play a blues harmonica in different keys.

Give me some time to do the tutorial of "Every little thing", I got more time in the weekends, but I'll try to do it as soon as I can.

Thank you An Apple Beatle for your words, later I will see you space, I'm working right now

Brilliant! I will break out the ol' trusty, and play with it. Not a chromatic. I know sometimes really really good harp players can bend a blues to a note that isn't really there, but I don't think John was in that class of player.

Cheers again!
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on July 21, 2009, 11:11:52 AM
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Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: An Apple Beatle on July 22, 2009, 06:53:49 AM
Thanks Nelson. I'm honoured you enjoyed the myspace page. :)
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on July 23, 2009, 11:22:53 AM
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Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on July 24, 2009, 02:35:49 AM
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Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: alexis on July 24, 2009, 01:33:38 PM
For petition of Alexis here is the tutorial for "Every little thing", not only the intro, the whole song, both guitars. I hope you enjoy it!

Beatles Lessons - Every little thing ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phlOECUy3K4#lq-lq2-hq[/url])


Really, really great! Thank you so much Nelson!

It really taught me a lot about how George puts his guitar work together. So economical in his playing, not a wasted note!

Thanks again, Nelson!
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on July 24, 2009, 02:57:58 PM
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Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: alexis on July 25, 2009, 01:55:44 AM
I believe the same. Each note in George playing is there for a reason. And many times, thing that seems to be complicated, actually is easy but very ingenious.

I'm glad you enjoy. It's very funny to me too!!!
Ask for more!!!

OK, thanks!

Can you do us up the two guitars in the solo of "Till There was You?"

Thanks!
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: alexis on July 26, 2009, 03:31:23 AM
BTW, Nelson, I think I remember your giving a link to your band on one of your threads, but I've lost the link. If that is the case, can you repost here please?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on July 26, 2009, 04:07:27 AM
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Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on July 27, 2009, 03:09:57 AM
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Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: alexis on July 29, 2009, 04:25:09 AM
Here is the video tutorial for "Till there was you". There's many versions of this song, some are very different. I choose the orginal recording for the "With the beatles" LP, the only one with an acoustic sound. The others, like the live performances in th Ed Sullivan Show, the BBC or The Royal Command were played with electric guitars and George play in different way in each of this shows. There's a version totally different on the Decca Studios audition too.

Note: I only explain the "rare" chords (diminished and augmented) on the John's guitar and the intro, solo and final on George's. The rest you can see it in the video, but if there's a particular part that don't understand, ask me.

No more words, here is the video...

... and ask for more songs!!!


Beatles Lessons - Till There Was You ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZRPIJNcdho#lq-lq2-hq-vhq[/url])


Hi Nelson - beautiful, thank you so much!

So many chords there. You played more than you explained, which is understandable given that a youtube can only be so long!

"Sweet fragrant meadows of dew ..." - any way to easily explain what they are doing there?

And isn't it absolutely mind-blowing that these young men who couldn't read music could figure out all those non-traditional chords?

Incredible!!

And thank you again, sir!
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on July 29, 2009, 03:37:25 PM
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Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on July 30, 2009, 01:23:37 PM
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Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on August 03, 2009, 11:12:19 AM
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Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Mrs Lennon on August 05, 2009, 01:33:34 AM
Nelson, you are my savior.  :D
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on August 07, 2009, 01:08:20 PM
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Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Mrs Lennon on August 10, 2009, 03:43:40 PM
How about 'All My Loving'?
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on August 12, 2009, 03:09:41 PM
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Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Mrs Lennon on August 12, 2009, 04:31:21 PM
Yay!! Thank you sooo much, Nelson!
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Whoeveriam on August 13, 2009, 06:40:12 AM
Hows about Baby It's You? Can you do the rhythm part? I am a lazy guitaro. I am simply rather lazy. Anyway Baby It's You, if you have the time...
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on August 13, 2009, 12:43:35 PM
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Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: An Apple Beatle on August 13, 2009, 02:32:51 PM
Nice one Nelson, a very thorough All My Loving there.....I like how you explained John not playing the full chords also. A great treat for us musicians interested in learning from these fantastic songs on the forum. Thanks again. :)
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on August 13, 2009, 03:08:36 PM
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Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Whoeveriam on August 15, 2009, 08:39:04 AM
Thankyou Nelson, I found your Baby It's You tutorial on youtube, I a pleased to discover I should learn it in a quater of an hour, simple chords, simple changes, simple strum. Which is all good for a simple guy like me.

Again, thanks.  ;D
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on August 15, 2009, 10:46:59 AM
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Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: alexis on August 16, 2009, 10:31:16 PM
You ask it, you got it

Beatles Lessons - All My Loving ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzgqQmUI4x4#lq-lq2-hq-vhq[/url])


Hi Nelson - Beautiful, you are the man!

I wonder if, around 1:10, the chord is actually called C augmented, rather than Cm7 augmented, since there is no Eb or Bb in the chord? I believe what you actually play is perfect, just wondering about the naming.

Awesome work, as always - thank you!
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on August 17, 2009, 01:19:04 AM
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Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: alexis on August 17, 2009, 01:47:06 AM
Mmmm, I'm not good at all with the names
Imagine that I try to explain it in a language that's not mine!

the chord is

  x
  x
  x
  6
  5
  5
  4

If anybody knows the right name, feel free of post it

Thanks for your words again Alexis, is good to read you

It is good to be back, if only for a little while, senor. El trabajo es mucho ahora, y no tengo el tiempo para las cosas que me interesanten  :'(. Gracias una vez mas para sus you-tubes fantasticos!
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on August 17, 2009, 02:26:26 AM
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Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: alexis on August 17, 2009, 03:02:49 AM
Thanks for the spanish.
It's funny the way that you write. I think that you laugh with my english too :)

Oh! in some site this chord is named Eaug

Saludos

Never, sir!

To the best of my knowledge, an E aug (E-G#-C)  has the same notes as a C aug (C-E-G#), has the same notes as a G# aug (G#-C-E), they are just different inversions of each other. I think there may only  be 4 truly different augmented chords:

1)  The one that has a C in it (like the three chords we just named, with the notes C-E-G#, with the three different names),
2)  The one that has a C# (with the notes C#-F-A; named C# aug, F aug, A aug, respectively),
3)  The one that has a D (with the notes D-F#-A#; named D aug, F# aug, and A# aug, respectively),
4)  And the one that has a D# (with the notes D#-G-B; named D# aug, G aug, B aug).

I've usually seen it used as a 5th chord on the way back to the root chord - like the first chord in "Oh, Darling".

I have to say, I have never seen an augmented chord used in the fashion these guys did in that song (All My Loving). If I had to guess, maybe it's an old music hall technique Paul heard from his father when he was growing up and his father played in bands. Any body else have any thoughts on the use of the augmented chord in that fashion?

Thanks!

Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on August 17, 2009, 08:09:59 PM
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Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: alexis on August 17, 2009, 09:30:03 PM
It was great!

They use this trick in the harmonies too

Two voices sang G# and E all the time and other go down C#-C-B in the studio version. When They play it live George sang G# all the time and John the C#-C-B part, leaving the E.

 :D Yes, I believe it is one of my all time favorite Beatle moments! (Sorry John ...  :-[ )
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on August 27, 2009, 07:23:10 PM
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Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: georgeharrisonluver on September 21, 2009, 08:25:35 PM
could you post a tutorial on how to play Michelle?
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on September 28, 2009, 01:49:18 PM
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Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: georgeharrisonluver on September 28, 2009, 08:08:03 PM
Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: The Swine on October 10, 2009, 02:47:39 PM
helpful. thanks
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on October 10, 2009, 03:10:08 PM
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Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Pilzkopf on October 12, 2009, 07:29:28 PM
"Michelle" is a good choice. Because it half answers the question alexis was asking a few posts back, in relation to "All My Loving":


I have to say, I have never seen an augmented chord used in the fashion these guys did in that song (All My Loving). If I had to guess, maybe it's an old music hall technique Paul heard from his father when he was growing up and his father played in bands. Any body else have any thoughts on the use of the augmented chord in that fashion?

In "Michelle" you get the same descending line in the harmony, stepping down by semi-tones:

"All my lovin...I will send to you"
"I will say the only words...."

Except with "Michelle" it keeps going - F,E,Eb,D,Db, landing finally on the dominant C. But in both examples the augmented chord is generated by the second step down.
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: An Apple Beatle on October 12, 2009, 07:48:47 PM
"Michelle" is a good choice. Because it half answers the question alexis was asking a few posts back, in relation to "All My Loving":

In "Michelle" you get the same descending line in the harmony, stepping down by semi-tones:

"All my lovin...I will send to you"
"I will say the only words...."

Except with "Michelle" it keeps going - F,E,Eb,D,Db, landing finally on the dominant C. But in both examples the augmented chord is generated by the second step down.

  :)
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on October 12, 2009, 11:21:20 PM
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Post by: georgeharrisonluver on October 13, 2009, 03:17:01 AM
^ Thanks so much Nelson!  ;D
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Post by: Pilzkopf on October 13, 2009, 03:51:14 AM
Nicely done, Nelson. What I love about this song is the alternation between Fminor and Fmajor. It has the effect of brightening and darkening the mood. First shadow, then sunlight, then shadow.... It's such a beautiful piece.
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: alexis on October 13, 2009, 05:13:41 AM
"Michelle" is a good choice. Because it half answers the question alexis was asking a few posts back, in relation to "All My Loving":

In "Michelle" you get the same descending line in the harmony, stepping down by semi-tones:

"All my lovin...I will send to you"
"I will say the only words...."

Except with "Michelle" it keeps going - F,E,Eb,D,Db, landing finally on the dominant C. But in both examples the augmented chord is generated by the second step down.



Great observation, Pilz!!

Are you Paul??

Or maybe George (Martin)?

I knew that actually, just didn't understand it well enough to know that! It's the same sequence (Michelle) as "Time in  Bottle" by Jim Croce:

Jim Croce _ Time in A Bottle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqv7yGui6w0#normal)
(Couldn't find a youtube of good ol' Jim Croce himself doing his song. I think the original was in Dm, just like Michelle, but maybe this guy is up half a step ...)
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Also, the same chord progression, with the famous Pilzkopf augmented 2nd chord, in that classic forever we all know and love - "A Heartbeat (It's a Love Beat!)" by the DeFranco family!!

Heartbeat, It's a Lovebeat - DeFranco Family (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpO7TW0NwqE#normal)

 :D :D
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Pilzkopf on October 13, 2009, 01:50:02 PM
^And of course there's the iconic Stairway to Heaven.... :)

I'll just make some comments on a couple of other things you wrote earlier:

"To the best of my knowledge, an E aug (E-G#-C)  has the same notes as a C aug (C-E-G#), has the same notes as a G# aug (G#-C-E), they are just different inversions of each other. I think there may only  be 4 truly different augmented chords:"

Right, if you move the shape up the frets, you get an inversion of the original at every fourth step.

And diminished sevenths repeat every third step, so there's only three of those. The three that Nelson played in his "Michelle" tutorial, in the instrumental outro, are all inversions of each other!

Augmenteds again:
"I've usually seen it used as a 5th chord on the way back to the root chord - like the first chord in "Oh, Darling"."

I was playing one of their early songs on my guitar a few weeks back where there was an augmented chord like that one, played instead of the dominant fifth. But I can't remember which song. Which was it? It's annoying me that I can't pin it down. ???
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: alexis on October 13, 2009, 05:51:02 PM
^And of course there's the iconic Stairway to Heaven.... :)

I'll just make some comments on a couple of other things you wrote earlier:

"To the best of my knowledge, an E aug (E-G#-C)  has the same notes as a C aug (C-E-G#), has the same notes as a G# aug (G#-C-E), they are just different inversions of each other. I think there may only  be 4 truly different augmented chords:"

Right, if you move the shape up the frets, you get an inversion of the original at every fourth step.

And diminished sevenths repeat every third step, so there's only three of those. The three that Nelson played in his "Michelle" tutorial, in the instrumental outro, are all inversions of each other!

Augmenteds again:
"I've usually seen it used as a 5th chord on the way back to the root chord - like the first chord in "Oh, Darling"."

I was playing one of their early songs on my guitar a few weeks back where there was an augmented chord like that one, played instead of the dominant fifth. But I can't remember which song. Which was it? It's annoying me that I can't pin it down. ???

"I'm Happy Just to Dance with You"?

"It's Only Love"?

And thanks for the chordal discussion!
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Pilzkopf on October 15, 2009, 01:22:35 AM
"I'm Happy Just to Dance with You"?

That's the one. :)
Title: Re: Tutorials by request
Post by: Nelson_Wilbury on October 16, 2009, 02:24:22 PM
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