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Title: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: Kevin on January 11, 2010, 11:08:37 AM
A magnificent, strident, modern single. The first song that has some ambiguity in it's meaning (something that would become their trademark.)
And to me this sounds like the first personal single, not a hit they've knocked out for a hits sake. It goes place previous Beatle singles didn't.
Another great leap forward for the band.
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: I_Will on January 11, 2010, 11:36:47 AM
I love this song, a lot. I especially love the beat during the verses and the way the tempo changes in the middle eight. (and the guitar riff in the middle eight).
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: Bobber on January 11, 2010, 02:20:58 PM
I never really got the hook of Ticket To Ride. I can understand that it is a great song and the leap forward and all that, but I never added the song to my favourites. It seems out of place in the time with Help and We Can Work It Out coming even after Ticket To Ride. It looks as if the song is a step forward and then a few steps back are taken. The song should fit better between We Can Work It Out/Day Tripper and Paperback Writer to my logical ears.
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: Kevin on January 11, 2010, 02:58:32 PM
IIt seems out of place in the time with Help and We Can Work It Out coming even after Ticket To Ride. It looks as if the song is a step forward and then a few steps back are taken. The song should fit better between We Can Work It Out/Day Tripper and Paperback Writer to my logical ears.
Agree with that. But let's not get ahead of ourselves. I'm just glad Lennon went for a big electric number rather than some sub-Dylan accoustic the-world-hates-me moan (that's still to come  :)  )
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Post by: Mairi on January 11, 2010, 04:52:45 PM
I really do like the electric guitars in this song. I think it's a very distinctive and memorable song, and the ambiguity of the lyrics is also good. But there's one thing that's always bothered me about it: it's just a touch too slow. I feel like it needs to be just a half-step faster. I don't know why. Otherwise, it's a great song and I think the beginning of a new era for the Beatles.
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: Kevin on January 11, 2010, 05:07:53 PM
I really do like the electric guitars in this song.
Yep. Sideline fiddly-diddly George and his country guitar, put Macca up front and you have a modern, thundering, confident (if a tad slow) rock masterpiece.
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: nyfan(41) on January 11, 2010, 11:10:16 PM
the rhythm/beat sounds alot like a girlgroup song -
bom . . bom bom . . BAM   bom . . bom bom . . BAM

such as 'Leader of the Pack" by Shangrilas or "Be My Baby" by Ronettes

i love ticket to ride - especially before the last chorus when john sings "AHHHWWWWWW, shes gotta . . . "  ;yes
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: tkitna on January 12, 2010, 02:50:42 AM
I dont know what to say about this song. Its been a pretty neutral song for me in terms of liking it. On one side, it sounds a little more mature then the earlier tunes, but then again, the earlier singles sound better to me or they dont have some of the warts this song has. I like the beat and drums as its different then anything they've done before. Georges guitar tone and playing p*sses me off. Its an aggravating sound to me. The tone is to high pitched during the breaks and it sounds labored. The ending is even worse (if thats in fact George and not John). Its like he's trying his hardest to play it clean, but its beyond him if you get my drift. Johns falsetto at the end grates on me too. One other thing I dislike is the tamborine. I realize they needed something to fill the space, but I think a piano or something would have served the song better.

It sounds like I picked the song apart and was pretty negative towards it, but really, thats not the case. I like it, but dont love it.
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: pc31 on January 12, 2010, 03:01:04 AM
i  adore this duet....it's in my top 3.....The Beatles-Ticket To Ride (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn_kNeorDSk#normal) it rules tight hamonies and lennon being sincere....
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: Mairi on January 12, 2010, 03:09:47 AM
I thought this was amusing:

http://chickentoride.ytmnd.com/ (http://chickentoride.ytmnd.com/)
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: I_Will on January 12, 2010, 03:13:46 AM
I thought this was amusing:

[url]http://chickentoride.ytmnd.com/[/url] ([url]http://chickentoride.ytmnd.com/[/url])


HAHAHAHA oh my gosh, that made me laugh so much more than it should. I'll liken it to the fact that it's late and I'm tired ;D
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: Kevin on January 12, 2010, 09:13:08 AM
IIt sounds like I picked the song apart and was pretty negative towards it, but really, thats not the case. I like it, but dont love it.
Take comfort though that you listen much deeper than me, and make me aware of things I haven't heard. I shall have to give it another listen.
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: Yarvelling on January 12, 2010, 05:53:24 PM
HAHAHAHA oh my gosh, that made me laugh so much more than it should. I'll liken it to the fact that it's late and I'm tired ;D

Mum & Dad used to call it 'Chicken To Ride' back when it first came out!  That used to make me laugh; I was only 4...  :)
Great song though.
Steve.
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: breedofrandy on January 12, 2010, 07:42:43 PM
^ I really like this song, it always makes me happy!  ;) Tis a great tune!
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: emmi_luvs_beatles on January 12, 2010, 07:43:33 PM
.The Beatles-Ticket To Ride ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn_kNeorDSk#normal[/url])


Gah Paul in this video... he's so perfect... (I know I'm weird, okay?)

anyways I love Ticket To Ride, awesome tune :D
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: stevie on January 12, 2010, 08:12:55 PM
Great song to sing along with. I love Paul's harmonies - his lower voice counters John nicely.
Didn't John claim this as the first 'heavy metal' song?

Also, an earlier post mentions George's guitar work but Paul played most of it.
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: I_Will on January 12, 2010, 08:23:51 PM
Gah Paul in this video... he's so perfect... (I know I'm weird, okay?)

No worries, I thought the exact same thing  ;)
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: breedofrandy on January 12, 2010, 08:32:00 PM
Gah Paul in this video... he's so perfect... (I know I'm weird, okay?)

anyways I love Ticket To Ride, awesome tune :D

LOL! Yeah I thought the same thing of Ringo! He makes the cutest faces in this video!  ;D
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: Hello Goodbye on January 13, 2010, 01:26:22 AM
the rhythm/beat sounds alot like a girlgroup song -
bom . . bom bom . . BAM   bom . . bom bom . . BAM

such as 'Leader of the Pack" by Shangrilas or "Be My Baby" by Ronettes

Yeah!  There's some "wall of sound" in Ticket To Ride for sure!  I liked this song when it came out.  I didn't get the ambiguity until a couple of years later, but the song caught my attention.  It pointed the way to a new direction for The Beatles.

Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: tkitna on January 13, 2010, 04:50:21 PM
Also, an earlier post mentions George's guitar work but Paul played most of it.

This is correct. I was unaware of this until I looked it up. Thanks for the mention and that makes a lot of sense now. Never cared for Pauls lead playing.
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: emmi_luvs_beatles on January 13, 2010, 05:10:56 PM
No worries, I thought the exact same thing  ;)

LOL okay, at least I'm not alone :D

LOL! Yeah I thought the same thing of Ringo! He makes the cutest faces in this video!  ;D

I noticed that! Aren't our boys adorable?? lol  ;)
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: Almighty Doer of Stuff on January 13, 2010, 05:58:41 PM
I really like the lead guitar on this song. The high pitch of the guitar seem to me to be meant to represent crying over the romantic loss, and the odd, staggering rhythm seems to represent the staggering negative effect the loss has had on the singer's state of mind. The drums lock in with Paul's lead guitar as well, further enhancing the effect. Then, the middle sections have a very different emotional content to them, like he's getting angry at her for leaving him, as he goes through the stages of grief. In the happy, almost triumphant coda, he finds he no longer cares any more than she does. It's a fascinating song.
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: breedofrandy on January 13, 2010, 09:14:21 PM

I noticed that! Aren't our boys adorable?? lol  ;)

Yes they are! lol  ;D
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: SemolinaPilchard on January 14, 2010, 06:27:42 AM
i  adore this duet....it's in my top 3.....The Beatles-Ticket To Ride ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn_kNeorDSk#normal[/url]) it rules tight hamonies and lennon being sincere....

Oh, how I love their promo videos. This is probably my 2nd favorite after the I Feel Fine fish & chips video. I love how Paul and John keep looking at each other and laughing, and Ringo is barely hitting the drums. I really like Ticket to Ride. The harmonies are perfect, as usual.
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: Kevin on January 14, 2010, 11:35:43 AM
More thoughts.
Their first edgy, risky single whose prime market wasn't just screaming teenagers.
Interestingly the charts of April 65 show a bit of a chage from before. Most of the other merseybeat invasion bands are gone, only The Searchers hanging on at #15.
The charts now generally sound tougher with Dylan, Them, The Yardbirds, The Who, Stones and Kinks all around.
But good old Cliff is number two.
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: Tamara on January 14, 2010, 09:44:27 PM
An absolute favourite.
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: tkitna on January 15, 2010, 01:48:04 AM
An absolute favourite.

Good hearing from you Tamara. Its been awhile.
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: nyfan(41) on January 15, 2010, 02:47:08 AM
on further thought,
what makes this song so great is how happy and enthusiastic paul sounds when he sings his harmony part (todayyyyyyy yeah!) - if you try to isolate his vocal in your head when you listen you'll see what i mean
- it's totally opposite to the sad serious tone of john's voice and the lyrics of the song.
that contrast makes it an instant classic to me

(the same thing happens on the chorus of i'm a loser)
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: Tamara on January 15, 2010, 12:02:20 PM
Good hearing from you Tamara. Its been awhile.

It has. I'm here as a guest quite often though. Not always happy to wade through all the chit chat.
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: AngeloMysterioso on January 21, 2010, 03:29:01 PM
After further listening to Ticket to Ride mono remastered mix, I could not escape noticing, again, how close the arpeggiated lead guitar chords sounded to The Byrds’ Mr. Tambourine Man. Upon further research, I found that The Byrds’ single came out April 12, 1965, while Ticket to Ride was available in US stores a mere seven days later. Even though Ticket to Ride’s UK pressing was issued April 9, the master take of the Byrds "Mr. Tambourine Man" was made on January 20, 1965, and no major further changes were made to that speicific take.

Another case of simultaneous artistic groundbreaking, I guess.
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: maywitch on January 22, 2010, 08:32:48 PM
I really like the lead guitar on this song. The high pitch of the guitar seem to me to be meant to represent crying over the romantic loss, and the odd, staggering rhythm seems to represent the staggering negative effect the loss has had on the singer's state of mind. The drums lock in with Paul's lead guitar as well, further enhancing the effect. Then, the middle sections have a very different emotional content to them, like he's getting angry at her for leaving him, as he goes through the stages of grief. In the happy, almost triumphant coda, he finds he no longer cares any more than she does. It's a fascinating song.


That's interesting about the drums and guitar - because Paul also had a lot to do with how Ringo played the drums on this song.  So they may have developed along a similar line in Paul's mind - the lead work and the drum line.  Someone mentioned John and Paul's voices on the vocal, there is isolated track of just their vocals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpxooesOjtk#normal) which is pretty neat.

ETA:  Ah, all I want is a link to show, why does the whole youtube thing keep showing up?  Sorry.
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: breedofrandy on January 22, 2010, 08:51:54 PM
^that's really interesting hearing the song like that.
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: Hombre_de_ningun_lugar on March 23, 2010, 06:40:09 PM
(http://www.rarebeatles.com/photopg3/cd5sing/cd15909.jpg)
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: Hello Goodbye on February 12, 2024, 12:02:57 AM
Well, here am I reviving this 14 year-old thread.  Why?  Because earlier today I broke out my Rickenbacker 360-12C63 to practice George's riffs on Ticket To Ride...


(https://i.postimg.cc/Vzt0Z7fY/DSC-0738.jpg)



I soon realized that I was playing very familiar riffs. Changing the tempo and the way I fretted and fingered, I began playing Mike Pender's riffs on The Searchers' 1964 cover of Jackie DeShannon's When You Walk In The Room...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcVc4HU-eGk# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcVc4HU-eGk#)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxb_mysjpFM# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxb_mysjpFM#)


George Harrison might have been influenced by The Searchers as their recording of When You Walk In The Room came out a year before Ticket To Ride.

Jackie DeShannon toured with The Beatles in 1964.  Her original 1963 recording featured the same 12-string guitar riffs.  She might also have been an influence...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x168eSNn4k# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x168eSNn4k#)


I love how songs evolve!





Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: Hello Goodbye on February 12, 2024, 01:04:17 AM

Jackie DeShannon toured with The Beatles in 1964.  Her original 1963 recording featured the same 12-string guitar riffs.  She might also have been an influence...




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP0imgTfYZk# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP0imgTfYZk#)


(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/87/72/8f/87728f29692576ffc9053e49095219db.jpg)


Maybe they were discussing 12-string guitar while playing Monopoly.  :)
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Post by: Moogmodule on February 12, 2024, 01:25:50 AM
Well, here am I reviving this 14 year-old thread.  Why?  Because earlier today I broke out my Rickenbacker 360-12C63 to practice George's riffs on Ticket To Ride...


([url]https://i.postimg.cc/Vzt0Z7fY/DSC-0738.jpg[/url])



I soon realized that I was playing very familiar riffs. Changing the tempo and the way I fretted and fingered, I began playing Mike Pender's riffs on The Searchers' 1964 cover of Jackie DeShannon's When You Walk In The Room...


[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcVc4HU-eGk#[/url] ([url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcVc4HU-eGk#[/url])


[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxb_mysjpFM#[/url] ([url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxb_mysjpFM#[/url])


George Harrison might have been influenced by The Searchers as their recording of When You Walk In The Room came out a year before Ticket To Ride.

Jackie DeShannon toured with The Beatles in 1964.  Her original 1963 recording featured the same 12-string guitar riffs.  She might also have been an influence...


[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x168eSNn4k#[/url] ([url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x168eSNn4k#[/url])


I love how songs evolve!


‘Scuse me while I drool for a bit
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: Hello Goodbye on February 12, 2024, 02:50:51 AM
That's quite alright, Moog.  I can feel a new expression on my face...I can feel a glowing sensation taking place every time I play that guitar.

My other 12-string is this 1990 Guild JF30-12...


(https://i.postimg.cc/54zpL0Sx/Guild-JF30-12-1.jpg)


It also has a thin neck and is easy to play.  You've seen and heard it before...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YHIRGYlLlU# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YHIRGYlLlU#)


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Post by: Hello Goodbye on February 12, 2024, 03:11:28 AM
George didn't play his Rickenbacker 360-12 in live performances of Ticket To Ride because he needed a 6-string guitar for the lead guitar parts.  He plays his Gretsch 6119 Tennessean here...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70-WSgZn1MQ# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70-WSgZn1MQ#)
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Post by: Hello Goodbye on February 12, 2024, 03:21:28 AM
Meanwhile, seemingly safe in the sheltering Alps...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJBesRuthzY# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJBesRuthzY#)


And wouldn't you know it?  I have one of those Slalom Lenkung Schobob Ski Bikes too...


(https://i.postimg.cc/cxgZy44b/Slalom-Lenkung-Schobob-Ski-Bike-1.jpg)


 :)
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: Hello Goodbye on February 12, 2024, 04:56:37 AM
The 1965 George Harrison Rickenbacker 360-12 Riff and McCartney/Lennon Melody Contest


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edTSNi88NSE# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edTSNi88NSE#)

 ;D
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Post by: blmeanie on February 12, 2024, 11:40:34 AM

i love ticket to ride - especially before the last chorus when john sings "AHHHWWWWWW, shes gotta . . . "  ;yes

my favorite part of the song
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: Hello Goodbye on February 15, 2024, 02:21:28 AM
i love ticket to ride - especially before the last chorus when john sings "AHHHWWWWWW, shes gotta . . . "  ;yes


my favorite part of the song


John AHHHWWWWWWs twice in Ticket To Ride, blmeanie...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJBesRuthzY# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJBesRuthzY#)

The first time at 1:46 and the second time at 2:36   nyfan(41) was referring to the one at 2:36

How do you feel about the one at 1:46? 

 ;D
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: blmeanie on February 15, 2024, 11:22:58 PM
both are great, 1:46 is fuller but 2:36 is more relaxed

Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: Hello Goodbye on February 16, 2024, 04:16:48 AM
Right.  After all that skiing and Schobobing I reckon John was tired.

That was a great pass he made behind that skier at 1:57 huh?
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: In My Life on February 16, 2024, 07:17:14 AM
my favorite part of the song

Mine too, blmeanie!
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: blmeanie on February 16, 2024, 11:32:34 AM


That was a great pass he made behind that skier at 1:57 huh?

I'm going skiing next week , will have to try that move
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: Hello Goodbye on February 16, 2024, 11:59:13 PM
Not an easy thing to do on the long skis John had on.

I still ski on my 1960s 195cm Fischer Quick Super downhill skis and Kastinger boots...


(https://i.postimg.cc/w6BXBqRg/Fischer-Quick-Super-Skis.jpg)


(https://i.postimg.cc/08HpMT7m/Kastinger-Boots.jpg)
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Post by: Normandie on February 17, 2024, 01:42:00 AM
I still ski on my 1960s 195cm Fischer Quick Super downhill skis and Kastinger boots...

You must be quite tall, Barry! I think the longest I've ever skied on were 171s. I can't imagine (at my height) trying to control 195-cm skis.  ;)



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Post by: Hello Goodbye on February 17, 2024, 02:42:40 AM
Kathy, I'm 5'9"  The Quick Super was marketed as a downhill racing ski.  The way I was measured for the skis was to stand with my arm raised high.  Measurement was taken from the ground to my wrist.

In those days we parallel skied, a very elegant style.  Snow plowing was difficult with long skis.  We stopped by keeping the skis parallel and pivoting 90º and edging to stop.

Skiing style changed over the following years and skis got shorter with more pronounced hourglass silhouettes.

My Kastinger boots are first generation leather buckle boots. The bindings are cubco bindings which involved mounting steel plates on the boots' heels and toes.  Cubco bindings were noted for adjustable and dependable release..."For skiers who have to go to work Monday."  :)


(https://i.postimg.cc/GdK2Mk9h/Fischer-Quick-Super-195cm.jpg)


(https://i.postimg.cc/KcJ25Df6/Cubco-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: Normandie on February 17, 2024, 02:55:10 AM
^^

I have such fond memories of parallel skiiing and pivoting to stop (ideally, smartly sending a spray of snow outwards). I would so love to ski again. Too bad I'm stuck in one of the flattest states of the union.  :(

Title: Re: Singles - Ticket To Ride.
Post by: Hello Goodbye on February 17, 2024, 03:02:04 AM
^^

I have such fond memories of parallel skiiing and pivoting to stop (ideally, smartly sending a spray of snow outwards). I would so love to ski again. Too bad I'm stuck in one of the flattest states of the union.  :(



Which added to the elegance.  :)