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Title: Two Mono Mixes of I'll Cry Instead and I Am The Walrus?!?
Post by: danielcelano on June 18, 2011, 05:55:08 PM
According Mark Lewisohn's The Beatles Recording Sessions, the mono mix of I'll Cry Instead was made on June 4 1964 but it didn't say anything about two mono mixes and that means two different time lengths. The mono mix of I Am The Walrus was also made on September 29 1967 since King Lear was added, but the book didn't say anything about two mono mixes that were each released in the UK and the US either. Right, guys?
Title: Re: Two Mono Mixes of I'll Cry Instead and I Am The Walrus?!?
Post by: Gary910 on June 18, 2011, 06:53:31 PM
As you know Daniel, the longer version is not really a different "mix". It would be more accurate to call it a different "edit".
Title: Re: Two Mono Mixes of I'll Cry Instead and I Am The Walrus?!?
Post by: danielcelano on June 18, 2011, 10:02:39 PM
Are you saying that the longer version of I'll Cry Instead is a different edit, not a different mix?

As you know Daniel, the longer version is not really a different "mix". It would be more accurate to call it a different "edit".
Title: Re: Two Mono Mixes of I'll Cry Instead and I Am The Walrus?!?
Post by: Gary910 on June 18, 2011, 10:37:06 PM
That is my opinion. What do you think?
Title: Re: Two Mono Mixes of I'll Cry Instead and I Am The Walrus?!?
Post by: danielcelano on June 19, 2011, 01:32:46 AM
I think the answer is yes.

That is my opinion. What do you think?
Title: Re: Two Mono Mixes of I'll Cry Instead and I Am The Walrus?!?
Post by: Bobber on June 20, 2011, 08:05:04 AM
Glad we sorted that out.
Title: Re: Two Mono Mixes of I'll Cry Instead and I Am The Walrus?!?
Post by: danielcelano on June 23, 2011, 02:40:10 PM
One other thing. Do you think that the mono mixes of I'll Cry Instead and I Am The Walrus were each released in worldwide?
Title: Re: Two Mono Mixes of I'll Cry Instead and I Am The Walrus?!?
Post by: Gary910 on June 24, 2011, 09:01:17 PM
It doesn't matter what I think.

Tell us Daniel.. what are the facts.
Title: Re: Two Mono Mixes of I'll Cry Instead and I Am The Walrus?!?
Post by: Hello Goodbye on June 24, 2011, 10:43:49 PM
One other thing. Do you think that the mono mixes of I'll Cry Instead and I Am The Walrus were each released in worldwide?


Daniel, mono mixes of I'll Cry Instead and I Am The Walrus were released worldwide.  Here in the United States, United Artists released A Hard Day's Night in both mono and stereo.  This album included I'll Cry Instead.


(http://www.beatlesbible.com/images/releases/hard_days_night_us.jpg)


(http://asset3.torrentino.com/covers/000/060/947/original.jpg?1257256246)








Capitol Records released Something New in mono and stereo which also included I'll Cry Instead.


(http://www.beatlesbible.com/images/releases/something_new.jpg)


(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6bpUZe8JNpM/TP4qNt9ZpoI/AAAAAAAAJxE/7DAL-TLo1zc/s1600/The-Beatles-1.1.jpg)



Parlophone released A Hard Day's Night in mono and stereo which included I'll Cry Instead.

(http://thebeatles-collection.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/img_1801_21_1.JPG)


(http://www.vinylsearcher.com/largeImages/26518632.jpg)



I Am The Walrus appeared on Capitol's Magical Mystery Tour here in the United States in both mono (MAL 2835) and sterero (SMAL 2835).

(http://www.beatlesbible.com/images/releases/magical_mystery_tour.jpg)

I won't get into the different US single mixes of I Am The Walrus.  You already are aware of those.




Parlophone relesed the double EP Magical Mystery Tour in both mono (MMT 1-2) and stereo (SMMT 1-2).

(http://images.45cat.com/the-beatles-magical-mystery-tour-parlophone.jpg)
Title: Re: Two Mono Mixes of I'll Cry Instead and I Am The Walrus?!?
Post by: Gary910 on June 25, 2011, 02:54:10 PM
What does Daniel think?
Title: Re: Two Mono Mixes of I'll Cry Instead and I Am The Walrus?!?
Post by: danielcelano on June 28, 2011, 09:49:42 PM
I think I'm right. And by the way, the mono mix of I Am The Walrus was released on a single in worldwide.

What does Daniel think?
Title: Re: Two Mono Mixes of I'll Cry Instead and I Am The Walrus?!?
Post by: danielcelano on June 29, 2011, 01:42:22 AM
One more thing, guys. Which year was the extra stroke on I Am The Walrus that's next to "Yellow Matter Custard" first heard in the United Kingdom? And which year was the extra stroke on I Am The Walrus that's next to "Yellow Matter Custard" first heard in stereo?
Title: Re: Two Mono Mixes of I'll Cry Instead and I Am The Walrus?!?
Post by: Hello Goodbye on June 29, 2011, 02:14:11 AM
Daniel, the US mono single mix had the extra bar preceding "yellow matter custard" and was released here in the United States in 1967.  There was no true stereo version of I Am The Walrus released with that extra bar of music either here or in the UK.

The 1980 US Capitol LP Rarities has a hybrid mix of I Am The Walrus described thusly:  Stereo, new mix compiled from US single and UK album mixes: six-bar intro and extra beats before the "Yellow matter custard" verse; not available on CD
 
Title: Re: Two Mono Mixes of I'll Cry Instead and I Am The Walrus?!?
Post by: danielcelano on June 29, 2011, 03:41:49 AM
But a true stereo of I Am The Walrus released with that extra bar of music was released on Anthology 2 since it's lacking the bass, orchestra, the singing choir and last but least, the King Lear broadcast.

Daniel, the US mono single mix had the extra bar preceding "yellow matter custard" and was released here in the United States in 1967.  There was no true stereo version of I Am The Walrus released with that extra bar of music either here or in the UK.

The 1980 US Capitol LP Rarities has a hybrid mix of I Am The Walrus described thusly:  Stereo, new mix compiled from US single and UK album mixes: six-bar intro and extra beats before the "Yellow matter custard" verse; not available on CD
 
Title: Re: Two Mono Mixes of I'll Cry Instead and I Am The Walrus?!?
Post by: Hello Goodbye on June 29, 2011, 04:01:22 AM
Right.  I was talking about single and LP releases in 1967 with the bass, orchestra and choir.  That's the full song in my opinion.  The Anthology 2 release is interesting though and is true stereo without the deleted tracks.
Title: Re: Two Mono Mixes of I'll Cry Instead and I Am The Walrus?!?
Post by: danielcelano on July 04, 2011, 04:48:34 AM
By the way, I have something for you to download.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OV3QTM79 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OV3QTM79)

It's a full true stereo version of I Am The Walrus since the extra stroke that's next to "Yellow Matter Custard" is heard. And that's not all.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CCUM0DRY (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CCUM0DRY)

It's something I made for you to download. I hope you'll love them.

Right.  I was talking about single and LP releases in 1967 with the bass, orchestra and choir.  That's the full song in my opinion.  The Anthology 2 release is interesting though and is true stereo without the deleted tracks.