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Title: Bill Harry - Derry and the Seniors?
Post by: alexis on March 10, 2008, 08:11:35 PM
Hi Mr. Harry - Bobber (one of the senior guys on this forum) was able to find a reference to Derry (or is it Howie?) and the Seniors on your awesome site http://www.mersey-beat.net/ . Apparently they cut a record even before the Beatles ... do you have any recollection of how they looked/sounded on stage? Were they the first Liverpool group to go to Hamburg? Did they sound like the Beatles (and all the other groups?) did in the pre-1963 era?

And would you happen by any small chance to know if their recording is still available to hear?

Thanks so much Bill ... I hope you don't get tired of (niggled about?!) all our saying (I'm maybe guiltier than most) how really fortunate we are to have the chance to hear/speak/post with you ...

Cheers!

P.S. Heard from Mr. Bobber you're on vacation  - hope you had a great one! If you're ever in TX let me know (I live in San Antonio, known for it's exotic Margaritas!)!
Title: Re: Bill Harry - Derry and the Seniors?
Post by: pc31 on March 11, 2008, 03:37:15 AM
(http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTefQ9_tVHW.4AdOqjzbkF/SIG=131meaphu/EXP=1205292989/**http%3A//www.collectable-records.ru/images/GROUPS/Caravan/casey_howie/front.jpg)
Title: Re: Bill Harry - Derry and the Seniors?
Post by: pc31 on March 11, 2008, 03:40:10 AM
a translated page on howie....
Howie Casey (* 12 July 1937) is an English saxophonist. He learned saxophone because of its preference for jazz.

From 1955 to 1958 it was with the military.

it began 1959 with Derry Wilkie in the group of Derry & the of senior, starting from 1961 Howie Casey & the of senior. In February 1962 its first album twist RK the Top came out. They went to Hamburg, where they arose in the emperor cellar.

Table of contents [Verbergen]
1 Diskographie
1,1 Singles
1,2 albums
1,3 guest musicians
2 Web on the left of
 


 Diskographie [ Work on]Howie Casey & the of senior


 Singles [ Work on]
Title: Re: Bill Harry - Derry and the Seniors?
Post by: Bobber on March 11, 2008, 08:33:52 AM
Derry is not the same person as Howie Casey by the way.
Title: Re: Bill Harry - Derry and the Seniors?
Post by: pc31 on March 11, 2008, 10:13:21 AM
me know.....
Title: Re: Bill Harry - Derry and the Seniors?
Post by: Bobber on March 11, 2008, 10:16:17 AM
Me know you know. But alexis hesitated.
Title: Re: Bill Harry - Derry and the Seniors?
Post by: pc31 on March 12, 2008, 10:04:07 AM
i posted a few of howey caseys vids on one of the topics here somewheres...don't ha ha was one...it was howie casey and the engineers...
Title: Re: Bill Harry - Derry and the Seniors?
Post by: Benzadrine Beat on May 06, 2008, 01:23:55 PM
Hello all,
I have all the Derry/Howie Casey & the Seniors recordings on my computer and would like to share. Is there a way to do this here or would individual emails be more the fashion?
Title: Re: Bill Harry - Derry and the Seniors?
Post by: BlueMeanie on May 06, 2008, 01:29:31 PM
Quote from: 1312
Hello all,
I have all the Derry/Howie Casey & the Seniors recordings on my computer and would like to share. Is there a way to do this here or would individual emails be more the fashion?


Hi Benzadrine Beat. Are these bootlegs or the real thing? If they're bootlegs you can upload them to somewhere like MegaUpload: http://www.megaupload.com/ and then post a link in the bootleg forum here: http://www.dmbeatles.com/forums/b-bootlegs_related/

Title: Re: Bill Harry - Derry and the Seniors?
Post by: Benzadrine Beat on May 06, 2008, 02:09:39 PM
Thank You Blue Meanie!
I'll give that a go tonight when I get home tonight.
Title: Re: Bill Harry - Derry and the Seniors?
Post by: Bill Harry on May 06, 2008, 03:19:33 PM

Derry Wilkie was always one of my favourite artists in Liverpool. He was warm-hearted, immensely reliable and friendly
Title: Re: Bill Harry - Derry and the Seniors?
Post by: harihead on May 06, 2008, 03:32:09 PM
Great stories, Bill!
Title: Re: Bill Harry - Derry and the Seniors?
Post by: Bobber on May 06, 2008, 05:56:28 PM
Quote from: 1062
The tapes were lost some years later in London.

It seems to me you have lost a lot on the way, Bill! Great story by the way!
Title: Re: Bill Harry - Derry and the Seniors?
Post by: Benzadrine Beat on May 06, 2008, 06:39:29 PM
Great Story about Derry, Mr. Harry!
I'll post some of the Howie/Derry/Seniors music for those who have not had a chance before to listen! As a side note follow this link to see and hear about a project that envolved Howie Casey and some old Friends (about two years ago now). There is video, music and photos available!
http://www.sonicbids.com/epk/epk.aspx?epk_id=48085
Title: Re: Bill Harry - Derry and the Seniors?
Post by: Bill Harry on May 06, 2008, 09:45:21 PM
Yes, because of all the moves. During one office move 250 stories, poems and drawings by John Lennon were lost. When I left Liverpool I left a cuboard 8ft high full of items regarding the Beatles. Then there were the letters Paul used to send me from their travels.When I moved from Charing Cross road in London I had to leave 4,000 photographs behind, when I had an office in Westbourne Grove, the people mistook by four foot high box of items as rubbish and threw it out - three collections of Mersey Beat, photos, tape recordings and diaries. The items I've lost over the years could probably amount to a couple of million pounds.
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Post by: Sgt. Pepper 45822 on May 07, 2008, 02:31:35 AM
I hope someone found them and cherished them for what they are worht
Title: Re: Bill Harry - Derry and the Seniors?
Post by: harihead on May 07, 2008, 02:36:06 AM
I'm ... stunned.

It just amazes me, how many people throw away things like this without even realizing it.

I'm going to go and be astounded some more. *pets Bill*
Title: Re: Bill Harry - Derry and the Seniors?
Post by: Benzadrine Beat on May 07, 2008, 03:28:00 AM
Hello again,
 I tried following the link to http://www.dmbeatles.com/forums/b-bootlegs_related/ but I received a couple of errors and I was not allowed in. Hopefully I can just post the links to the Howie Casey / Derry songs in this post. If not please send a tow truck to pull me from the cyber ditch.
 
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5TQ4UCHO
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CU83V83J
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=L0OKAY5N
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6SJR2QZL

Enjoy!

Title: Re: Bill Harry - Derry and the Seniors?
Post by: BlueMeanie on May 08, 2008, 12:40:36 PM
Thanks for these Ben. Any more? And do you have any info about them - titles, album title etc?

Possibly this:

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g299/paulk58/caseylp.jpg)

Here's Howie in 2000.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g299/paulk58/howie_casey_big.jpg)
Title: Re: Bill Harry - Derry and the Seniors?
Post by: Bill Harry on May 08, 2008, 04:07:09 PM
Can't remember whether I've already posted this, but here goes:

CASEY, HOWIE. A Liverpool musician who had learned to play sax while in the army. He formed Derry & the Seniors in November 1959. The line-up comprised Howie (saxophone), Derry Wilkie (vocals), Jeff Wallington (drums), Billy Hughes (rhythm/vocals). Brian Griffiths (lead) and Phil Whitehead (bass).
     They appeared regularly around Merseyside at venues such as Blair Hall, Wilson Hall and the Jacaranda. Because of the Jacaranda connection, clubowner Allan Williams booked them for the Liverpool Stadium Show with Gene Vincent on Tuesday 3 May 1960.
     Williams had staged the event with London impresario Larry Parnes and the bill featured a number of Liverpool groups. Parnes was impressed and asked Williams to arrange an audition as he was seeking bands to back his various artists, such as Billy Fury, Johnny Gentle and Duffy Power.
     The Silver Beetles were also present at the audition, which took place on Tuesday 10 May at the Wyvern Social Club in Seel Street. When Casey was later asked what he thought of them, he said:
Title: Re: Bill Harry - Derry and the Seniors?
Post by: Benzadrine Beat on May 08, 2008, 06:28:51 PM
Quote
Thanks for these Ben. Any more? And do you have any info about them - titles, album title etc?

Possibly this:



Here's Howie in 2000.


Blue Meanie,
Yes I have all the Howie Casey songs from "Twist at the Top" and much more! I thought I would post four to start, to see how it all worked and to see if there was any interest in more tracks. I'm not sure what you mean by "Here's Howie in 2000" but if you would like to see and hear him in 2006 go to the link I posted previously @ http://www.sonicbids.com/epk/epk.aspx?epk_id=48085

The songs I posted are shown in RED

Song Title
 
  1. Double Twist
  2. Fly, The
  3. Yes Indeed
  4. Bony Moronie
  5. Taxi Blues
  6. Hey, Hey, Hey, Hey
  7. Boll Weevil Song, The
  8. Big Daddy
  9. True Fine Mama
  10. Bone Shakin' Annie
  11. Stay
  12. Let's Twist Again
  13. I Ain't Mad at You
  14. Twist at the Top
  15. Mainline
  16. Swingin
Title: Re: Bill Harry - Derry and the Seniors?
Post by: Bobber on February 26, 2014, 03:01:26 PM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzpi4s6q7f1qhnkvco1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Bill Harry - Derry and the Seniors?
Post by: Bobber on December 01, 2014, 09:40:50 AM
This is what Bill posted on Facebook a couple of days ago:

Derry was a very important part of the Mersey scene and a good friend of mine. Derry & the Seniors were the very first Mersey group to go to Hamburg and the first Mersey group to make an album and single. There were two lead vocalists during their Kaiserkeller season - Derry and Billy Hughes. Derry was the ultimate showman and he was the one Koschmider referred to when he told the Beatles to 'mach shau' like Derry. At one point Derry gave up singing, but i encouraged him to form another group. He and I were going to collaborate on a book about his intriguing life called 'Black Scouse', but he vanished from the scene for years, disappearing in Italy where, I think, he had a jail sentence. I then saw him again in London at the Cromwellian club. Derry had a few too many, went out of the club, stole a bike and crashed into a police car at a set of traffic lights. Going up the escalator at Baker Street Station, he was going down and shouted out 'Bill, we've got to get together for a bevvy." I never saw him again and he passed away at too early an age.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/106358540/Beatles%2040-50/544944_751104324970251_2696152215011045037_n.jpg)