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Title: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: Buttmunker on October 23, 2007, 01:42:03 PM
Since there's no 'general solo' forum, I'll post this here because I like "Happy X-mas" better than "Wonderful Christmastime."  Every Christmas, when WC is played on the radio, I remember my uncle making a smart-ass comment about the song - how it's so gay.

Anyway, a-hem, the point of this is the ask the members of this forum which song you'd pick for life?  If you could only listen to one of the two for the rest of your life, which would you pick?
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: tkitna on October 23, 2007, 03:25:14 PM
Happy X-Mas easily.
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: on October 23, 2007, 05:30:05 PM
Wonderful Christmastime i have a day off War on Christmas Day :)
Never thought of it as been Gay ? but it is a happy little ditty and as got better with age , i once read Paul had written another Christmas song ?

DaveRam :)
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: Buttmunker on October 23, 2007, 06:39:20 PM
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Wonderful Christmastime i have a day off War on Christmas Day :)
Never thought of it as been Gay ? but it is a happy little ditty and as got better with age , i once read Paul had written another Christmas song ?

DaveRam :)

Yeah, one that people on this forum are trashing so badly.  "Rudolph the Red Nosed Reggae." There's a thread found on the Macca forum.
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: Andy Smith on October 23, 2007, 09:12:51 PM
macca's for me, it's a nice little diitty. not great but nice.
I've never been a big fan of the Lennon one even though
it was a good message!
i'm not a big fan of christmas songs anyway. :-/
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: JimmyMcCullochFan on October 23, 2007, 09:14:16 PM
Wonderful Christmastime for me
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: Buttmunker on October 24, 2007, 01:35:01 AM
The poll would look a little stronger for me if only tkitna had voted!

For the period that Lennon recorded "Happy X-Mas," it is surprisingly to my taste.  This was the early seventies, and the majority of Lennon material from that time period doesn't do well with me ("Imagine" being the exception), but "Happy X-Mas" could have easily been a part of his 1980 efforts.  Its simply beautiful.

I hate Melissa Ethridge for covering it.  Now, at Christmastime, you hear HER version more than JOHN'S.  Before she covered it, it was ALL JOHN!  Now he has to share Christmas with Melissa.  Ugh.
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: BlueMeanie on October 24, 2007, 01:31:29 PM
I can't stand either of them.
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: wingsman on October 24, 2007, 01:32:05 PM
Happy Xmas, without a doubt. Paul is my favorite, but John did it better this time. Happy Xmas is such a beautiful song...
Wonderful Christmastime a gay song? Are you kidding me? You're maybe confusing it with I Will Survive or YMCA, both singles from the same year (1979) (interesting, isn't it?  ;D ).
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: BlueMeanie on October 24, 2007, 01:37:11 PM
Maybe he meant Gay, in the old fashioned sense, i.e.: gleeful, jovial, glad, joyous, happy, cheerful, sprightly, blithe, airy, light-hearted; vivacious.
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: Buttmunker on October 25, 2007, 01:43:20 AM
No, I believe he meant 'fruitty.'  lol
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: tkitna on October 25, 2007, 01:54:37 AM
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The poll would look a little stronger for me if only tkitna had voted!


Sorry. Fixed.
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: Buttmunker on October 26, 2007, 03:01:16 AM
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Sorry. Fixed.

LOL!!  Thanks (not that it helped.  Looks like we're losing.) :)
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: nothing_is_real on October 28, 2007, 10:57:16 PM
Happy Xmas takes it easily. I usually enjoy Paul's fluff, but Christmas fluff is pushing it a little too far for enjoyment.
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: Sondra on October 30, 2007, 12:50:08 AM
Happy X-Mas by far. I HATE Wonderful Christmastime. Happy X-Mas has heart and a message. It's a great song in general. Even with Yoko's backing vocals. Wonderful Christmas time is cheesy!
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: sewi on November 07, 2007, 08:33:19 AM
Wonderful Christmastime sounds like a joke but I am a bit tired of Happy Xmas so I vote for the first one.
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: Pasta Cheif on November 11, 2007, 01:44:10 PM
I voted for Happy Xmas..yeah it is getting on and a bit tired, but still like the meaning.
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: dirtyoldsod on November 28, 2007, 06:33:25 AM
      
Wonderful Christmastime.
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: Mairi on December 01, 2007, 02:29:23 AM
War Is Over by far. It's way less dated, has a great message, and I've always been rather fond of children's choirs.
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: Euan Buchan on December 08, 2007, 12:12:30 AM
I like both
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: DaveRam on December 08, 2007, 10:47:15 AM
Great if you go and come back you can vote for rubbish twice  :D :D :D  (Simply Having A) Wonderful Christmastime ;D
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: Lissy on December 08, 2007, 02:30:17 PM
I voted for Happy Xmas. If I hear it too much Wonderful Christmastime ends up getting on my nerves...
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: DaveRam on December 17, 2007, 05:59:28 PM
John and Paul are both back in the UK charts with these Yuletide songs , John's at #40 and Paul's at # 70 ;)
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: harihead on December 17, 2007, 08:39:45 PM
Thanks, DaveRam!

I heard Wonderful Christmastime for the first time the other day. Wish I hadn't...

HAPPY XMAS!!! :)
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: Kevin on December 18, 2007, 09:23:42 AM
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Thanks, DaveRam!

I heard Wonderful Christmastime for the first time the other day. Wish I hadn't...

HAPPY XMAS!!! :)

It is truly awful.
John's is a masterpiece.
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: Andy Smith on December 18, 2007, 10:55:27 PM
i know it sounds terrible to say, but i've never liked John's Happy Xmas. :-/
macca's is certaintly not his best work but nice enough.
and there's always George's Ding Dong Ding Dong!
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: PaulieBear on December 21, 2007, 07:05:48 PM
I like how happy wonderful christmas time sounds.
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: Flaming Pie in the Sky on December 21, 2007, 08:13:32 PM
I've heard Wonderful Christmastime play at least one time everyday on the radio since Thanksgiving (bigeyes1)
So I think it's understandable that my vote goes to Happy X-Mas.
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: DaveRam on December 24, 2007, 12:08:47 PM
John's at # 41 and Paul's made a late charge to # 44 on the UK charts :)
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: Dark Phoenyx on December 25, 2007, 09:31:23 PM
Although it could be considered a corny song, I prefer A wonderful Christmas time, it makes me happy to hear it.
 ;D
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: dr.robert on December 26, 2007, 06:11:27 PM
Johns Happy Xmas.
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: on December 31, 2007, 06:31:02 PM
Wonderful Christmastime is just McCartney fluff I feel. No one w/ a modicum of intelligence can compare it to John and Yoko's more serious world wish of peace during the Vietnam era evidenced in "Happy X-Mas (War is over) which is far superior on many levels. Maybe Paul's record is more musical, but it's lyrical content is typical McCartney self-indulgence, whereas John and Yoko's words rang true that particular christmas. I speak from experience--people were effected by the song then. One of my best friends was killed in Nam (Da Nang Valley, 1970)


ST
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: on February 07, 2008, 03:54:04 AM
Wonderfull Christmas Time will always be one of my favorites because i grew up dancing to it every christmas eve. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: Bobber on December 01, 2009, 08:47:34 AM
Happy X-Mas easily.


A pity tho that this was another classic Lennon song -besides Give Peace A Chance- where John simply stole the melody. Happy Xmas is John's version of the Irish folksong Stewball. Listen here:

Stewball -Traditional by Anja & Bernd (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsWc42TS0vQ#noexternalembed-normal)
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: Brynjar on December 13, 2009, 12:14:34 PM
A pity tho that this was another classic Lennon song -besides Give Peace A Chance- where John simply stole the melody. Happy Xmas is John's version of the Irish folksong Stewball. Listen here:

Stewball -Traditional by Anja & Bernd ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsWc42TS0vQ#noexternalembed-normal[/url])


Youtube link?  ::)
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: I_Will on December 13, 2009, 03:45:07 PM
Wonderful Christmastime without a doubt! It was always my favorite Christmas song since I was very, very young. Before I even knew who Paul McCartney was! In fact, I didn't even know he sung it until last year! I'm sorry, but Yoko's backing vocals really ruin Happy Xmas for me, though I do still enjoy the song.
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: emmi_luvs_beatles on December 13, 2009, 04:11:11 PM
Hmmm. I think Wonderful Christmastime, mostly because I'm a Macca fan, and like I_Will, Yoko kinda ruins Happy X-Mas for me.
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: Bobber on December 14, 2009, 08:51:49 AM
Youtube link?  ::)

Yes, it is a YouTube link. Click on it and then... *magic*.  ha2ha
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: Brynjar on December 14, 2009, 09:10:42 AM
Yes, it is a YouTube link. Click on it and then... *magic*.  ha2ha


Yeah...

Do you have a youtube link for the song he supposed to have stolen for Give Peace a Chance?
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: Bobber on December 15, 2009, 08:20:05 AM
Yeah...

Do you have a youtube link for the song he supposed to have stolen for Give Peace a Chance?

I have it at home on an ancient old cd (from about 1800 or so). It's an old mantra from India. I will rip it tonight or tomorrow.
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: Bobber on December 21, 2009, 10:28:09 AM
Yeah...

Do you have a youtube link for the song he supposed to have stolen for Give Peace a Chance?


Here you go: http://h1.ripway.com/Bobber3/Om%20Shanti%20Om.wma (http://h1.ripway.com/Bobber3/Om%20Shanti%20Om.wma)
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: georgeharrisonluver on December 22, 2009, 02:39:25 AM
Happy X-mas for me, but Paul's is okay. I've heard both a lot this year.
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: sgt. peppie on December 22, 2009, 02:42:04 AM
I think 'Wonderful Christmastime' is more into the holiday spirit than 'Happy X-mas'
I mean let's be honest, no one really thinks about how rest of the world is doing on Christmas Day.
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: Bobber on December 22, 2009, 08:16:12 AM
I mean let's be honest, no one really thinks about how rest of the world is doing on Christmas Day.

I think you are mistaken.
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: Brynjar on December 22, 2009, 09:40:10 AM
Here you go: [url]http://h1.ripway.com/Bobber3/Om%20Shanti%20Om.wma[/url] ([url]http://h1.ripway.com/Bobber3/Om%20Shanti%20Om.wma[/url])


Thanks Bobber. I really appreciate it!
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: Mairi on December 22, 2009, 04:47:34 PM
I mean let's be honest, no one really thinks about how rest of the world is doing on Christmas Day.

I'm going to have to disagree.
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: Georgies Girl on December 22, 2009, 07:36:54 PM
I guess both have their thing. "Wonderful Christmas Time" is something warmer, to enjoy the holidays with our friends and family and be happy to be there. "Happy Xmas" is more reflexive, talks about all the problems that society tries to forget with all the presents and stuff from this season.
Definitely, both are pretty awesome :)
Title: Re: Happy X-Mas vs Wonderful Christmastime
Post by: sgt. peppie on December 23, 2009, 01:41:16 AM
I guess both have their thing. "Wonderful Christmas Time" is something warmer, to enjoy the holidays with our friends and family and be happy to be there. "Happy Xmas" is more reflexive, talks about all the problems that society tries to forget with all the presents and stuff from this season.
Definitely, both are pretty awesome :)
Actually, that's a better opinion than mine!
Sorry about the other one, guys.  :)