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Beatles forums => Albums => Topic started by: ma_tt2 on June 26, 2005, 06:24:37 AM
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I want to buy one of these but am not sure which version to get. Any suggestions will be aprreciated :)
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Well, I've grown accostumed to the Let It Be version as it was done by Phil Spector and his 'wall of sound' in 1970. Comparing to the 'new' Naked-version, it's clear that the songs Dig It and Maggie Mae have been removed in favour of Don't Let Me Down. Fine by me. The talking (most of the times by John Lennon) from the rooftop concert has also been removed. In that opinion, the Naked-version may even be more a studio-album! There are differences between the songs on these two albums, but that doesn't count for every song. The most obvious example is The Long And Winding Road. Paul McCartney (and George Martin as well) always said they hated the way Phil Spector had added all kinds of choirs, violins and other strings to the arrangement. On the Naked-version, the song can be heard more in the way McCartney meant it. I Me Mine, Across The Universe and Let It Be are other songs that are more simplified and got rid of the strings and choirs from Phil Spector. My opinion is that they are much more clear and more Beatles-songs than on the old version. Other songs show no or just slight differences. I think that the Naked-version is more the album as an answer to the original idea of getting back the plain, simple, non-bombastic songs. That also the reason why I like it better and should prefer buying the Naked-version. But there's been a lot of discussion about this already.
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Get Get Back sessions
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My suggestion is to get the original "Let It Be", and the bootleg of "As Nature Intended", which is the Glyn Johns mix. Its outstanding. I like 'Naked' but still prefer the bootleg version. Easy to find on Ebay.
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I prefer the original
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I haven't listened to all of the original album, but of the songs I've heard, I like Let It Be...Naked better. The naked version of the song Let It Be is WAY better than the original release, much better guitar solo.
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Naked does sound better, but I miss Dig It.
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Yeah I also love the Let it be...naked version better. It just sounds more realistic than the original verson. If you watch the movie and then you listen to the album then you can tell that 99% of the dialogue before an after songs are fake. I personally think Phil Spector messed up Let it be. Plus if you Buy the Let it be...Naked version(CD) you get a cool bonus CD called fly on the wall. Its cool audio from the Get Back sessions.
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Fly On The Wall ...cool? COOL?? I think not, when you consider what they could have put on. Hours of interesting dialogue, other songs ... man, you are too easily satisfied Wordno.
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I like LIBN, but I do prefer the original version of the song Let It Be. If you have the money, I'd suggest getting both.
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Well they can't put several hours of audio on a CD. I'm sure they just picked out what they thought was the best and put it on the Cd. I do have to agree with you on the fact that I can be easily satisfied. But I really don't see how thats a major problem. I just think Fly on the wall was an enjoyable listen. Its better than not getting it at all. Sometimes its also good to be satisfied with what you have then always wanting more.
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Well they can't put several hours of audio on a CD.
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I agree that they could have put so much more on there. A CD can hold like 80 minutes, right? Or at least the blank ones I use can.
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Oh the wit.
I'm not sure if you knew, but 20 to 30 minutes is not a 'few' minutes. I don't know why you are getting so worked up that my opinion doesn't match yours. I happened to like Fly on the wall. Sheesh, Forgive me for not having the same opinion as Ydoll Gwyn. If you weren't satisfied with Fly on the wall then don't criticize me on the fact that I think it was cool, just stick to something that satisfisy's you like the bootlegged material from the Jan 1969 Get back sessions.
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OK already. 22 minutes near enough. 22 minutes out of Thirty Days, sheesh. The point is, many many fans felt that Fly was a lazy tidbit to throw at them. Like I said, there is some great dialogue that could have been put out, and also some great alternative versions of songs, and new songs.
But if you're happy with the crumbs from the rich man's table, good luck t'ya. But I'll aim higher ...
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I like them both, for different reasons. The Long and Winding Road without the chorus and so on is interesting, but I really don't care for that song either way. Probably Paul's main motivation for doing Let It Be Naked. I think I could have lived without it. Oh, and I love the guitar solo in Let It Be on the original version SO much better. I know most people don't, but that sharp, loud guitar just does it for me. Gives the song more of an edge or something. I like the drums better on the original version too. For the same reasons. Sounds more interesting.
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I like them both, for different reasons. The Long and Winding Road without the chorus and so on is interesting, but I really don't care for that song either way. Probably Paul's main motivation for doing Let It Be Naked. I think I could have lived without it. Oh, and I love the guitar solo in Let It Be on the original version SO much better. I know most people don't, but that sharp, loud guitar just does it for me. Gives the song more of an edge or something. I like the drums better on the original version too. For the same reasons. Sounds more interesting.
Sandra, you're going to be stunned, but I agree with what you've written there, except maybe you like Winding a bit more than I do! LOL.
Of all the versions of LIB itself, the original album's is the one I like best also.
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At the end of the day I grew up when only the original version was available.
The new version is a treat. A curio. I tend to at first master what they had originally released before delving into the re-mixes. That's just me though. It makes finding the new cuts and out-takes a great experience when comparing them to what the world had listened to at the time.
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Tough one...
I dislike the talking between the songs on LIB and inclusion of Maggie Mae and Dig It, because it makes the album sound sloppy, but I must say I do like the orchestration on some of the songs...
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But if you're getting just one of the two, get the original. It's the real deal, like it or not.
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the new version isn't bad, it sounds clear so i suggest that one but like mairi says get both if you can ;D
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Get both they are both different,also you may want to get some Get Back session boots,they will blow you away.
And keep your eye out for the original Get Back album,that was shelved in favor of Spectors craziness thats out there somewhere.
Dimeadozen.org
bootcity.org
thetradersden.org
Get some really great boots there!
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Fly On The Wall ...cool? COOL?? I think not, when you consider what they could have put on. Hours of interesting dialogue, other songs ... man, you are too easily satisfied Wordno.
I listened to Fly,one time,since I have most of the Get Back Sessions, and they just found most of the stolen tapes,there is so much better stuff they could have added here,but had I not ever heard any of the Bootlegs I think I would have found it cool.
As for Let it Be Naked,it really was naked,and not one of my favorites,they should just fix all the nagra rolls,or whatever they have,and release them,raw! the way they were recorded,and as someone said earlier Glynn Johns had an album ready to go,that may have been the best one to date.
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Here's what they should have done--It should have been a two disc set:
Disc 1--"Let It Be" and "Let It Be Naked"
Disc 2--Both versions of the Glyn John's mixes.
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Here's what they should have done--It should have been a two disc set:
Disc 1--"Let It Be" and "Let It Be Naked"
Disc 2--Both versions of the Glyn John's mixes.
kind of ruin the point of having a let it be c.d. on the shelves tho
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kind of ruin the point of having a let it be c.d. on the shelves tho
You could say the same clueless thing about Let It Be Naked then. If you're going to release a different version, why not include the mixes that are in existence?
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well I picked up Let It Be Naked yesterday and I am very pleased with the sound. Songs I could not listen to before like dont let me down and the long and winding road are much better on this version. I also prefer across the universe on the naked version
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Well, I'm sorry, but the Glyn John's mixes are outstanding and they should have gone all the way rather than 1/2, but they probably thought that only die-hards would go for the whole package. Accountants don't know much about artistry.
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So if I wanted a fuller collection I would get both, from what I read. Would everyone say thats correct? I've already heard the original which was fantastic, but Naked is not known to me.
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l.i.b.
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Its ironic that they altered "Let It Be", isn't it?
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I haven't listened to all of the original album, but of the songs I've heard, I like Let It Be...Naked better. The naked version of the song Let It Be is WAY better than the original release, much better guitar solo.
What?!?!!
The guitar solo is sooo much better and more emotional in the LIB version, and it soars higher, AND Harrison gets more time to shine in the song with his work at the end of the song.
LIB's LIB > LIBN's LIB
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^I agree with this. I absolutely love the original LIB, and the solo is my favorite part of it. I didn't like how they changed it.
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The solo on Let if Be has a much harder edge to it. I love the distortion on it if that's what you call it. I like it SO much better. The one on LIBN is kind of boring to me compared to the one on LIB. And, I've always read that it was John doing it, not George. He had to come in and redo it because of a mistake George made? Something like that. I can't remember exactly what I read. George is on LIBN though. Well, if I'm wrong, I know someone around here will soon correct me.
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http://www.beatles-discography.com/beatles-albums.html
Go to L and go down to LIB. You'll see this quote:
"...[Phil Spector] decided to re-mix a song that was already riding high in the charts! He decided to mix in George's brand-new solo and lengthen the whole thing by repeating part of the final chorus."
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Cool, thanks. I don't know why I thought I read it was John! Anyway, here's a link to a cool article on Let it Be and Let it Be...Naked.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A2125388
The links on the bottom are also cool articles. I like the one about the origin of the name Beatles.
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I was just redoing a compilation disc, and some of the songs came from "Let It Be/Naked", and I have to say, I miss the banter and extraeaneous stuff that is not on 'Naked'. Maybe I'm just used to LIB, but the "I dig a pygmy..." before "Two of Us" just seems to need to be there. 'Naked' is too sterile.
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Let it be naked all the way. Ir sounds so much better without all the extra stuff. Plus let it be naked comes with the second cd which totally rocks. their voices on some, if not all, the songs sound a lot better. :D
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Let It Be is a great classic rock album by the Beatles with great tracks on it which is highly underrated in their history by the some fans because of the breakup. LIBN was released to satisfy Paul's ego for the most part because he thought Phil Spector screwed him producing the original.
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Personally, I like LITBN better.
The Spector production was awful.
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Let It Be is a great classic rock album by the Beatles with great tracks on it which is highly underrated in their history by the some fans because of the breakup.
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Origional is alright but sooo patchy. at the moment i prefer let it be...naked, but like anything else it always changes
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Oh the wit.
I'm not sure if you knew, but 20 to 30 minutes is not a 'few' minutes.
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. Paul McCartney (and George Martin as well) always said they hated the way Phil Spector had added all kinds of choirs, violins and other strings to the arrangement. On the Naked-version, the song can be heard more in the way McCartney meant it.
IMO Spector's version is better. A very nostalgic (and in a way final) Beatles song. On the Naked version there is an electric piano. Where did that come from? The sixties or recently? Best thing about Naked is the omission of the annoying speaking. Including DLMD is very agreeable. Glad that Maggie Mae is off it. And LARS. LARS is too short to be meaningful. Dig A Pony is so annoying, with daft lyrics. Should have been pushed out for All Things Must Pass.
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Odd bit on FOTW - John says 'Alexander The Great was a big'ead. Aw, that's a nice fireplace!'
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I like them both too much to be able to choose. Although 'Let it be...naked' isn't really what it is suppose to be. If it was suppose to be 'Let it be' without the overdubs than it would sound like a bloody mess. Let it be...naked is in reality a clean version of 'Let it be'. Songs like 'I've got a feeling' on LIBN aren't even natural as its just both versions of 'I've got a feeling' that was preformed on the rooftop put together.(Original is so much more superior). 'Dig a pony' is played faster and cleaned up. It sounds better on Naked than the original....but things are taken out and I think a few things are added on both versions. 'I me mine' wasn't even recorded during the Get back sessions...why its their is beyond me..both versions rock though. 'Don't let me down' is awesome, but they switched John's lyric flub with what was really suppose to be said which takes some charm out of that preformance. Ugh...the way George sang in 'For you Blue' is horrible(in both versions its the same). Its obvious he went back and resang it way after the Get back sessions as his voice sounds so different from when he sang it in the movie.
One after 909 sounds great in LIBN, sounds clean compared to the LIB version. I could go on about the rest of the songs, but what I'm trying to say is that LIBN isn't really what The Beatles had in mind. If we heard Let it be the album the way it was meant to...we'd hate it.
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I suppose the reason why I Me Mine is on it is because the project wasn't finalised until mid-1970 and I Me mine was recorded in early 1970. From this site:
http://dmbeatles.com/history.php?year=1970
Apr 01
Wednesday Studio 1 and control room Studio 3. 7.00pm-? Recording: `Across The Universe' (tape reduction take 8 into take 9, overdub onto take 9); `The Long And Winding Road' (tape reduction of 31 January 1969 recording into takes 17-19, overdub onto take 18); `I Me Mine' (tape reduction extended edit of take 16 into takes 17, 18, overdub onto take 18). Producer: Phil Spector; Engineer: Peter Bown; 2nd Engineer: Richard Lush. Orchestra and choir overdub. Last session of Ringo. Last recording session for a Beatles album.
Apr 02
Thursday Abbey Road, Room 4. Time unknown. Stereo mixing: `The Long And Winding Road' (remixes 10-13, from take 18); `I Me Mine' (remixes 10-12, from take 18); `Across The Universe' (remixes 10-13, from take 9). Editing: `The Long And Winding Road' (of stereo remixes 10, 13); `I Me Mine' (of stereo remixes 11, 12). Producer: Phil Spector; Engineer: Peter Bown; 2nd Engineer: Roger Ferris. Editing of `I Me Mine' to make it appear longer. Mixing of tracks recorded yesterday. Last session of Spector. End of `Let It Be' sessions. Last Beatles session.
Still, if they decided to include I Me Mine they could have included other unreleased stuff on it too. But they didn't of course.
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This is weird but for some reason i feel sad when i read the above recording sessions, they're very last ones.
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I like the naked version a lot better. besides the fact that Across the Universe and Long and Winding Road sound a million times better on the naked album, I'm happy that Let It Be ends the album rather than being sandwiched between nonsense like Dig it and Maggie Mae. And Don't Let Me down is a good addition. i'm surprised the rooftop version of it wasn't on the orignal Phil Spector album to begin with.
two things I miss are John's "I Dig A Pygmy" by Charles Hawtrey and the Deaf Aids......" line that opened the original album and I like the orignal version of I've Got A Feeling a bit better, which is why i'm happy to have both albums i guess
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I've had Let It Be... Naked all this time.
Well, I think it's so much better than the naked version. It just has a nicer feel to it, and I love the banter. My only gripes are the lack of 'Don't Let Me Down', and the track order (The Let It Be solo too - the Naked one is much better imo). I think if it had the same order as Naked, it'd be perfect.
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I'll be a stick in the mud and say "stick with the originals!" I just overall prefer the orignal Let it Be.
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I prefer Let It Be...Naked over Let It Be, but not with much. I prefer the original version of The Long And Winding Road, people mighr say that it's over the top, but I think the Naked version sounds too flat, not finished, empty...yeah you get it. I totally love the quality of the songs on Naked though, better stereo panning and crisp. On the original copy, many songs suffer from vibrations on the drum from the bass, most noticable is the intro to Don't Let Me Down (well, it's not from Let It Be, but from same sessions).
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Yep, Naked sounds better but that doesn't mean neccessarilly that the tracks are bet-er .. I miss John's spoken lines between tracks (because almost every spoken line it's John -Phil, Phil ::)) ... and Naked doesn't sound as a "live" album despite of some of the adlibs and all that! Its sound is too clinic for my test[size=9]e[/size]! :-/
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Its sound is too clinic for my test[size=9]e[/size]! :-/
Agreed. Best thing is the remix of Across The Universe.
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I've changed my mind. I prefer the Let It Be solo over the Naked one.
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I really like Let it be Naked because it feels like a real album i guess, i would like it more if the film were released so it felt like the two went together. Let it Be (orig) is more of a sountrack
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Being so used to the Phil Spector version..it's a tough call. Spector's added orchestration to "Long and Winding Road" for example really miffed Macca...but I think it added an extra beauty to an already beautiful piece.
(ps: btw, after the Spector murder trial verdict --which is due any day--we can discuss his overall contributions to Beatle (and post-Beatle (solo) recordings)
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Being so used to the Phil Spector version..it's a tough call. Spector's added orchestration to "Long and Winding Road" for example really miffed Macca...but I think it added an extra beauty to an already beautiful piece.
(ps: btw, after the Spector murder trial verdict --which is due any day--we can discuss his overall contributions to Beatle (and post-Beatle (solo) recordings)
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Tough call, but I will go with the LIB Naked with the improved sound quality.
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Let It Be ..Naked for me.
I've never been a great fan of the original LP
release & i'm glad that it was dusted up, with no
ditty's like Dig It or Maggie Mae that make's the album
suffer a bit. the sound, tracklisting & extra track
of Don't Let Me Down makes me happy to listen to
these great songs in a better form at last! :)
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Mixed feelings here. There was a time in my life when 'LIB' was my fave Beatle album, period (hardly a majority opinion, I'd assume, but still, there it is). I do enjoy the cleaner sound of 'LIBN', though. Each has its merits, so it's a split decision for me.
:)
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I think I already expressed my distain for "Naked" in another thread, but I have no problems doing it again here. :)
The 1970 version of Let It Be was fantastic - something the Beatles never sounded like before: live in the studio, jamming and having a great time (even though I know that is bullspit, they were having an awful time, but who could tell from listening to the record?)
"Naked" takes all the fun out of the album, and gives you songs that lack any vitality.
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I didn't bother with buying Let it Be Naked. When it was first out on other boards I gave out instrutions on how to make your own Let it Be Naked using some of the original album and other sources;
Two of Us (original Let it Be)
I Dig a Pony (original Let it Be or Anthology 3)
Across the Universe (Anthology 2 or Past Maters 2)
I Me Mine (Anthology 3)
Dig it (original Let it Be)
Let it Be (Past Masters 2)
Maggie Mae (original Let it Be)
I've Got a Feeling (original Let it Be or Anthology 3)
One After 909 (original Let it Be)
The Long and Winding Road (Anthology 3)
For You Blue (original Let it Be)
Get Back (original Let it Be or Past Masters 2)
And if someone wants they can put Don't Let Me Down and the Anthology 3 Rip it Up medley in to the track listing as well.
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I didn't bother with buying Let it Be Naked. When it was first out on other boards I gave out instrutions on how to make your own Let it Be Naked using some of the original album and other sources;
Two of Us (original Let it Be)
I Dig a Pony (original Let it Be or Anthology 3)
Across the Universe (Anthology 2 or Past Maters 2)
I Me Mine (Anthology 3)
Dig it (original Let it Be)
Let it Be (Past Masters 2)
Maggie Mae (original Let it Be)
I've Got a Feeling (original Let it Be or Anthology 3)
One After 909 (original Let it Be)
The Long and Winding Road (Anthology 3)
For You Blue (original Let it Be)
Get Back (original Let it Be or Past Masters 2)
And if someone wants they can put Don't Let Me Down and the Anthology 3 Rip it Up medley in to the track listing as well.
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Let It Be...Naked!!!
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Welcome to DM's forums Darth Beatles! Enjoy! :)
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I prefer the Naked, version myself, despite the dopey title: it's the closest thing to a "finished" album I've ever heard extracted from the "Get Back" sessions that's true to the Beatles' original intentions. That said, Glyn Johns' original as-it-happened Get Back mix (either version) is well worth tracking down (I've got versions from, I think, Dr. Ebbetts), and it's annoying that on a two disc set that has a total running time of about an hour that it wasn't included.
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Both
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I prefer the original. Also, the Phil Spector Long and Winding Road might have been a bastardization of the original but it's too entrenched to just give up. What would Why Can't We Be Friends and Zeppelin's All My Love be without the wrong notes in their intros? They can't rewrite musical history.