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Title: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: The End on March 08, 2004, 02:14:34 PM
Big Mal "a lovely guy" was the The Beatles' road manager from 1963 till the band officially
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Bruno on March 08, 2004, 02:44:21 PM
nice post about big Mal. What I don't get is how he died. I always thought he committed suicide but it doesn't seem like it. :(
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: The End on March 08, 2004, 02:58:00 PM
[quote by=Bruno link=Blah.pl?b=fifths,m=1078755274,s=1 date=1078757061]nice post about big Mal. What I don't get is how he died. I always thought he committed suicide but it doesn't seem like it. :(
[/quote]

Thanks Bruno

No, it was just a "misunderstanding" with the Police and all of their guns!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Ssarah on March 08, 2004, 03:05:17 PM
Thats so sad!
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: The End on March 08, 2004, 03:37:40 PM
[quote by=Ssarah link=Blah.pl?b=fifths,m=1078755274,s=3 date=1078758317]Thats so sad![/quote]

I know, and it's hardly ever mentioned in any Beatle book. I think Mal deserves greater recognition for his contribution to the Beatles' story.
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: pc31 on March 09, 2004, 11:49:25 PM
mal was the fifth magician in mystery tour.he can be seen playing the anvil in the let it be movie.
mal had barricaded himself inside with an empty shot gun.and when he came out they told him to drop it.he didn't so they dropped him.
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: pc31 on March 10, 2004, 12:03:20 AM
http://history.absoluteelsewhere.net/January/january4.htmlEvans, Mal


In the early and mid-sixties M.E. was a roadie for the Beatles. Mal invited Bill Collins to a Beatles recording session in 1967; this led to that Paul McCartney got interested in hearing The Iveys. In 1968 Mal Evans brought a tape of Iveys recordings to the Apple offices and both Derek Taylor and Paul McCartney were impressed them. This eventually led to The Iveys signing to Apple Records in in 1968. Evans came to produce some tracks on
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: HFleen on September 07, 2004, 06:07:50 PM
Is this -- "In 1965 Mal accompanied The Beatles to their famous meeting with his idol Elvis - his account of this legendary meeting remains untold!" -- still true?

Does anyone know of this meeting and can you point us to an online account of same?

HFleen
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: The End on September 07, 2004, 07:17:36 PM
I think only the Beatles themselves and Elvis ever spoke at length about the meeting - but their recollections conflict. A few books have been written though, but they're mainly speculation.
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: HFleen on September 09, 2004, 09:32:32 PM
gotta google that then....will report back too!

;-)

HFleen
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: SieLiebtDich on September 12, 2004, 04:24:20 AM
yeah that is sad.....I will look for his biography :-)
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Indica on September 12, 2004, 12:05:54 PM
The Story of How Mal Evans had to drive from the south (Beatles in back) up to Liverpool in freezing conditions, with the front window smashed out ( a stone cracked the glass, and Mal then had to smash it all out) ... only knowing where he was driving by looking at the edge of the road.
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: SieLiebtDich on September 14, 2004, 10:44:52 AM
yeah i heard that too.........:-/
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: pc31 on November 18, 2004, 11:44:17 AM
mal was the man............
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: An Apple Beatle on November 18, 2004, 11:54:06 AM
He certainly was. I never knew of his sad fate (or had long forgot.)
Big Mal!......Nice one. Toppermost of the Poppermost.!!!!!!!
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Indica on November 18, 2004, 07:01:03 PM
Hopefully his input and image will be cemented in the Beatles History, a true sign of deserved respect for somone who seemed to be a great man.
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Wayne L. on March 04, 2005, 12:48:24 PM
The late Mal Evans has to be the most famous roadie of all time since I don't know too many in other rock groups.  
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: pc31 on March 05, 2005, 11:13:59 AM
what??????????BON SCOTT WAS THE MOST FAMOUS ROADIE.......
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: The End on March 05, 2005, 02:06:04 PM
Quote from: pc31
what??????????BON SCOTT WAS THE MOST FAMOUS ROADIE.......

Never heard of him! LOL ;D
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: on March 06, 2005, 05:54:38 PM
Poor Mal. A gentle giant indeed. He was cremated and his ashes were lost so nobody knows where his final resting spot is.
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: The End on March 06, 2005, 09:37:14 PM
My God, I didn't know that - that is awful!! How did that happen?
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: on March 07, 2005, 01:21:16 AM
Quote from: The_End
My God, I didn't know that - that is awful!! How did that happen?

From a BBC News article:

Following the Beatles' breakup, Evans moved to California. He just couldn't cope with the transition. He was divorced and living with a girlfriend when in his depression he became upset and brandished a replica gun. She called some friends, and those friends informed the police. When the police came, due to the call, Evans flourished the replica weapon and the police shot him. He was cremated but his ashes were lost and have not been found to this day. When John heard the fate of his long time friend he supposedly stated, "That's just like Mal, ending up in the dead letter office."

Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: pc31 on March 08, 2005, 11:09:12 AM
somewheres some but tplug is wondering how much the ashes would fetch....
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: on March 08, 2005, 02:41:01 PM
Quote from: pc31
somewheres some but tplug is wondering how much the ashes would fetch....

No doubt. They'll probably end up on Ebay.
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: SieLiebtDich on March 10, 2005, 01:47:30 AM
omg, how sad :(...
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Buttmunker on September 29, 2007, 03:07:04 AM
I never knew this.  I came across it while reading Cyn's book "John."  Mal Evans was being abusive towards his wife/girlfriend (not sure which), she called the police, the police came, Mal was threatening to them, they shot him dead.

A little bit of Beatle history that wasn't discussed in "Anthology."
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Kevin on September 29, 2007, 09:22:42 AM
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A little bit of Beatle history that wasn't discussed in "Anthology."
Mal died in 76, and Anthology winds up (obviously) in 70.
Quite a bit is missing from anthology. Little about Yoko, nothing about the Klein/Eastman thing, or The Long and Winding Road. Anthology is the view of The Beatles The Beatles want you to see.

Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Pasta Cheif on September 29, 2007, 10:24:25 AM
Yeah, that was pretty sad, never knew the whole story, but I found this:


Evans was shot and killed by the police on 5 January 1976, in his rented duplex at 8122 W. 4th Street in Los Angeles. The officers mistakenly believed that the air pistol Evans was holding was a rifle. Before his death Evans was working on a book of memoirs called Living The Beatles' Legend, which he was supposed to deliver to publishers Grosset and Dunlap on 12 January 1976. Friends said that Evans was depressed about his separation from his wife Lil Evans
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: The End on September 30, 2007, 05:42:47 PM
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Evans' ashes were sent by post back to England, but were misplaced and lost in the postal system

Good grief - this story just gets more and more tragic!!!

Sounds like Hoernie has a lot to answer for!! Surely he knew it was an air-rifle if he saw close-hand!?
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Pasta Cheif on September 30, 2007, 10:45:25 PM
I  left this out but, John Lennon's wry comment when he heard the news was that Mal likely "wound up in the Dead Letter Department."
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Bobber on March 16, 2008, 09:54:39 PM
(http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1654/p10408471ad9.jpg)
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Bungalow Bill on March 16, 2008, 11:34:34 PM
Mal Evans is absolutely great.. i have fantastic thoughts of him from that Instant Karma video :D
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: harihead on April 28, 2008, 05:34:16 PM
Does anyone know what month Mal's daughter Julie was born? Sometime in 1966.

Thank you!
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Bill Harry on April 28, 2008, 05:45:25 PM
Here's a piece I wrote about Mal:

MAL EVANS The friend the Beatles called
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Geoff on April 28, 2008, 06:40:49 PM
Thanks again, Bill; I'll have to look for Mal in Help! But I wonder whatever happened to his book manuscript? It ought to be a fascinating read.  :)
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Bobber on April 28, 2008, 07:07:08 PM
Some information on Mals diary here: http://beatlesnumber9.com/mal.html
I was looking for a thread about it on here and I'm pretty sure it is somewhere, but I couldn't find.
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: harihead on April 28, 2008, 10:00:35 PM
Thanks, Bill. It's always great to read one of your articles. :)

Cor, that was the article I'd just read (the link above). So sad, but also very illuminating. Thanks for posting it-- I was going to add it. :)

I was curious about Mal's homelife. In 1966 they had all these tours, and after the tours ended he went on safari with Paul. I wondered when in all this chaos his little girl was born. Was he trying to squeeze homelife in among the busy events, or was Beatles first and foremost on every front?
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Geoff on April 28, 2008, 10:53:36 PM
Quote from: 63
Some information on Mals diary here: [url]http://beatlesnumber9.com/mal.html[/url]
I was looking for a thread about it on here and I'm pretty sure it is somewhere, but I couldn't find.


Thanks for the link; I hadn't known there was a big mystery surrounding the whereabouts of Mal's manuscript- I'd just assumed it remained unpublished because someone had made a decision not to print it. The diary bits aren't bad, either; and the writer's unflattering contrast between Mal's and Pepys's efforts is a little wrongheaded because large sections of Pepys's diary include just the sort of daily minutiae Mal records here, and if you read between the lines, you'll notice interesting things going on.  :)
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Xose on January 27, 2009, 03:58:29 PM
In the 2nd half of July 1963, The Beatles had the following agenda:

- 18: London, Abbey Road Studio 2. 7.00-10.45pm. Recording: `You Really Got A Hold On Me' (takes 1-11); `Money (That's What I Want)' (takes 1-7); `Devil In Her Heart' (takes 1-6); `Till There Was You' (takes 1-3)
 
- 19-20: Ritz Ballroom, Flintshire (North Wales)

- 21: Queen
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Xose on January 28, 2009, 02:36:55 PM
When did Mal start to work 'oficially' as a road manager for The Beatles??

Best!! ;)

Xose
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: BlueMeanie on January 28, 2009, 05:48:34 PM
Xose, it's great to have you here, but you really need to buy some books!!! :)
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Xose on January 28, 2009, 10:16:26 PM
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Xose, it's great to have you here, but you really need to buy some books!!! :)

I think I got many about The Beatles (=ca. 35, and increasing) but, regarding this question, they don't agree and that is why I ask for your opinnion. For example: Lewisohn states that ME started to work as road manager in August 1963, while others say that it was around 1962, and even others says that it was in 1961...

That's all..

Xose
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Xose on January 28, 2009, 10:28:02 PM
This is the list of Beatls books I got at home by November 18. Since them, the list has increased (=for example with Bill Harry Beatles Encyclopedia) with about 5 or 6 more:


- The Art of The Beatles. Exhibition Catalogue, Walker Art Gallery, Liverpool, 4 de Mayo - 30 de Septiembre de 1984, Liverpool, Merseyside County Council, 1984
- Babiuk, Andy, Beatles gear, San Francisco, Backbeat, 2002
- Baird, Julia - Giuliano, Geoffrey, John Lennon, My Brother, Londres, Grafton, 1988
- The Beatles. Antologia, Barcelona, Ediciones B, 2000
- The Beatles Complete Scores, Milwaukee, Hal Leonard, 1989
- The Beatles Lyrics, Londres, Futura, 1975
-
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Geoff on January 28, 2009, 10:54:36 PM
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I think I got many about The Beatles (=ca. 35, and increasing) but, regarding this question, they don't agree and that is why I ask for your opinnion. For example: Lewisohn states that ME started to work as road manager in August 1963, while others say that it was around 1962, and even others says that it was in 1961...

That's all..

Xose

Go with Lewisohn. He very carefully researches precisely this sort of information for his books. You might check his later Complete Beatles Chronicle for more information and updates.

Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Xose on January 28, 2009, 11:10:39 PM
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...Go with Lewisohn. He very carefully researches precisely this sort of information for his books. You might check his later Complete Beatles Chronicle for more information and updates...

Yes I know. I will stick to him...

Thank you and best wishes!! ;)

Xose

Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Bobber on January 29, 2009, 08:30:21 AM
August 11th 1963
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Xose on January 29, 2009, 10:05:20 AM
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August 11th 1963

Thanks Bobber!! ;)

I was pretty sure you was going to be able to help me... ;)

That's the date ML gave me. This means that at English tour 18-30 July 1963, Mal wasn't there...

Best!! ;)

Xose
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Bobber on January 29, 2009, 12:22:20 PM
Quote from: 1785

Thanks Bobber!! ;)

I was pretty sure you was going to be able to help me... ;)

That's the date ML gave me. This means that at English tour 18-30 July 1963, Mal wasn't there...

Best!! ;)

Xose

If I'm correct, Mal became a steady part of the Beatles entourage on this date. They had been in touch before and Mal could have helped them out on a couple of occasions.
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Xose on January 31, 2009, 05:50:36 PM
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If I'm correct, Mal became a steady part of the Beatles entourage on this date. They had been in touch before and Mal could have helped them out on a couple of occasions.

Thanks for that Bobber!! ;)

Xose
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: pc31 on February 02, 2009, 01:30:29 PM
big mal playing tambourine in this vid....EqP3wT5lpa4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqP3wT5lpa4)
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: pc31 on February 02, 2009, 01:34:18 PM
alan white remembers instant karma...QziY4AIoQ-8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QziY4AIoQ-8)
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: Bobber on February 02, 2009, 01:44:40 PM
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big mal playing tambourine in this vid....EqP3wT5lpa4 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqP3wT5lpa4[/url])


Mal looks completely out of place (and out of rhythm) there. But then again, so does Yoko.
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: pc31 on February 02, 2009, 01:49:52 PM
it does seem like john didn't abandon mal as bad as apple did.....john would seem out of place anywheres....
mal did help ringo and george out a little too....i don't recall if paul did tho...
Title: Re: "Big" Mal Evans
Post by: pc31 on February 02, 2009, 02:00:59 PM
there is a dutch band called the mal evan memorial band...look at this...http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.memb.nl%2F&lp=nl_en&.intl=us&fr=slv8-msgr
IN-kt_J36jg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN-kt_J36jg)