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[Sondra]

I don't know, I think Janis was pretty popular before her death, but yeah, dying young does tend to elevate someones status to legend real quick. I think Joplin was a real talent. She was unique. I think probably seeing her live was something. Whenever I've heard her peers talk about her, they always seem very knocked out by what she did. She had the same energy you see in great male front men. Not too many women have that presence. Which is why I can't really get into women rockers and why I think they are not as well respected as the men. Of course Joplin's voice isn't for everyone. I get that.

[Mairi]

Janis was powerful and put emotion into every song- not only did she sing the songs, she lived them.

[andersonCouncill]

I was referring to "chick rock" more in the vein of 70s, 80s, and SOME 90s group of women who knew how to rock hard and didn't give a sh*t what people thought of them. Not lame-ass girl singers who always have to make it a point that they're a strong, female artist. You shouldn't have to say it if it's true.

Singers like Joan, Joni, Janis, etc, are so important that they are just "singers"- they don't need a label, chick rock or otherwise.

For a good overview of Chick Rock you should get the album A Fair Forgery Of Pink Floyd. There are some wonderfully emotional performances by female artists. Although their are a few sh*tty ones as well.

Janis was powerful and put emotion into every song- not only did she sing the songs, she lived them.

No. She sucked. Luckily for her, she was part of the 27 club. There are/were a thousand female artists that sang from the heart a thousand times better than that piece of Jack Daniels sh*t. She got her kudos from being white and people are suckers.  How exactly did she 'live them'? Good for her, Pearl was a drunken whore whose legacy lives on for f*** knows what.

[Sondra]

No. She sucked. Luckily for her, she was part of the 27 club. There are/were a thousand female artists that sang from the heart a thousand times better than that piece of Jack Daniels sh*t. She got her kudos from being white and people are suckers.  How exactly did she 'live them'? Good for her, Pearl was a drunken whore whose legacy lives on for f*** knows what.

She wasn't the only drunken whore around. How about Keith Richards, Mick Jagger, Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, John Bonham...or can't they be whores because they're men?

What's that got to do with anything anyway?

Also, plenty of white musicians got kudos for being white. That's the way it was. Nothing unique to her. Again, has nothing to do with it. She had something that elevated her. And I don't think it's just because people are suckers. But everyone's entitled to their opinion.

She wasn't the only drunken whore around. How about Keith Richards, Mick Jagger, Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, John Bonham...or can't they be whores because they're men?

What's that got to do with anything anyway?

Also, plenty of white musicians got kudos for being white. That's the way it was. Nothing unique to her. Again, has nothing to do with it. She had something that elevated her. And I don't think it's just because people are suckers. But everyone's entitled to their opinion.

Um, those guys you named had/have talent. People look at Janis as really the first White woman who could sing heart-wrenching blues. She couldn't. She screamed, people thought it meant something, but, what the hell, Britny Spears has a star on the Walk of Fame, so what do I know?

[Sondra]

Wow, comparing Joplin to Brittany Spears. You REALLY hate her.

Sandra, she blows. There are alot of so-called 'artists' that suck. But she ranks up there with the most overrated ever, just painful to listen to.

[Sondra]

I don't know, I'm not a musician or artist or anything so I can't really say one way or the other. I just know that when a song of hers comes on the radio I usually don't turn it off. But it's not like I go out of the way to listen to her or anything. The only band I really go out of the way to listen to is the Beatles. Oh, and sometimes Elton John. Don't tell me HE'S not talented now!

I don't know, I'm not a musician or artist or anything so I can't really say one way or the other. I just know that when a song of hers comes on the radio I usually don't turn it off. But it's not like I go out of the way to listen to her or anything. The only band I really go out of the way to listen to is the Beatles. Oh, and sometimes Elton John. Don't tell me HE'S not talented now!

Elton is supremely talented, especially with Bernie.

[andersonCouncill]

She wasn't the only drunken whore around. How about Keith Richards, Mick Jagger, Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, John Bonham...or can't they be whores because they're men?

The term is called Man-Whore, thank you very much.

Anyways, Janis was a very good singer, IMO. Like I've said before, I could care less what people have to say about a certain artist, because I like them.

And besides, you might not like her but I'd like to see you get on a microphone and do your best. I doubt its better than her's.

[andersonCouncill]

Elton is supremely talented, especially with Bernie.

Yes. His style is supremely impressive. Almost like some cross from jazz piano and classical piano. His voice really is quite impressive too. Although I don't go out of my way to hear him, just as Sandra doesn't go out of her way to here non-Beatles and sometimes Elton artists, when I hear his songs, I listen well, and sometimes I even get into it.

[Sondra]

The term is called Man-Whore, thank you very much.

Anyways, Janis was a very good singer, IMO. Like I've said before, I could care less what people have to say about a certain artist, because I like them.

And besides, you might not like her but I'd like to see you get on a microphone and do your best. I doubt its better than her's.

It's I couldn't care less. Couldn't! And I NEVER said I didn't like her. Read the thread please.

[andersonCouncill]

It's I couldn't care less. Couldn't! And I NEVER said I didn't like her. Read the thread please.

Maybe it's areas, but  it's could care less. As in, I could care less, because it's bothering me more than I should. DIfferent phrases.

And I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to Juniors.. I think, unless I mistyped something.

Maybe it's areas, but  it's could care less. As in, I could care less, because it's bothering me more than I should. DIfferent phrases.

And I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to Juniors.. I think, unless I mistyped something.

What were/are you talking about? I don't get it? That Janis had talent? We've gotten over that, she's sucks and unfortunately is dead. What else are you talking about? Go ahead and like Janis Joplin. In my eyes, she suck large, that shouldn't stop you from liking her. If you like people that are accomplished because they scream and have no talent--more power to you. There's alot of people that have made it because screaming and what not, that is taken for talent. And so it goes. I just never thought that you were one of those people. Enjoy. -D-

No. She sucked. Luckily for her, she was part of the 27 club. There are/were a thousand female artists that sang from the heart a thousand times better than that piece of Jack Daniels sh*t. She got her kudos from being white and people are suckers.  How exactly did she 'live them'? Good for her, Pearl was a drunken whore whose legacy lives on for f*** knows what.

hey so now it is UNFORTUNATE that she died? because it is true that earlier you said 'luckily for her she was part of the 27' club.

and also we havent 'gotten over' the fact that she sucks and is dead, its just your one opinion on the subject, and i along with others happen to like her, so don't think you saying that will change everything.  

I love this line from Legend Lennon:   "and also we havent 'gotten over' the fact that she sucks and is dead..."  At least you admit it.  Unfurl the Pearl and hurl.

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mmm yeah i love it as well

[pc31]

come duane tell me when you are bombed outta your gourd on whiskey..that she ain't good...in her defense tho.....she could hit notes and i don't think she had formal training either...she would play longer than most bands...big brother and the holding company were a good band too....but janis was a bit trollopy...she had to show her ass at parties and try to be the center of attention and out drink everybody at the whiskey a go go...she had moments just like most musicians...i can however neither confirm nor deny she sucked but i heard she swallowed.....

[Wayne L.]

I think Courtney Love is out of her mind mentally, Nirvana is highly overrated & I can't stand them at all.