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WalrusGarden

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Beatles Self References
« on: March 02, 2009, 06:46:25 PM »

I'm looking for EVERY instance of Beatles songs referring to other Beatles songs.  Any form of self reference.  Even if it sounds like allusions to future songs.

Examples:

ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE
she loves you yeah yeah yeah

WHAT GOES ON:
tell me why (we already told you why)

I AM THE WALRUS:
fly like Lucy in the sky

GLASS ONION:
I told you about STRAWBERRY FIELDS
You know the place where nothing is real
Well here's another place you can go
Where everything flows
Looking through the bent backed tulips
To see how the other half live
Looking through a glass onion
I told you about the WALRUS and me, man
You know that we're as close as can be, man
Well here's another clue for you all
The WALRUS was Paul
Standing on the cast iron shore, yeah
LADY MADONNA trying to make ends meet, yeah
Looking through a glass onion
Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah
Looking through a glass onion

I told you about the FOOL ON THE HILL
I tell you man he's living there still
Well here's another place you can be
Listen to me
FIXING A HOLE in the ocean
Tryin' to make a dovetail joint
Looking through a glass onion


What else is there?
These are examples of explicit lyrical self allusions.  It would be interesting to hear peoples' thoughts on other non-lyrical sonic/tonal allusions in the music itself.  Or maybe less concrete, more subjective references.
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Re: Beatles Self References
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2009, 06:52:45 PM »

What about "You Never Give Me Your Money"?
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Re: Beatles Self References
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2009, 06:58:44 PM »

perfect
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Re: Beatles Self References
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2009, 02:03:53 AM »

come together....he got ono sideboard
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Re: Beatles Self References
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2009, 03:27:32 AM »

Here's a couple that came to mind:

Savoy Truffle: "We all know Ob-la-di Bla-da, but can you show me where you are?"

Fixing a Hole: "I'm taking the time for a number of things that weren't important yesterday."



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Re: Beatles Self References
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2009, 03:52:03 AM »

Quote from: 1689
Fixing a Hole: "I'm taking the time for a number of things that weren't important yesterday."

Is this factual or are we reaching a tad here? Just wondering (good answer nontheless).

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Re: Beatles Self References
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2009, 03:56:00 AM »

Are we including post-Beatle solo records? John has a veritable plethora of (generally unflattering) references to Beatles.
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Re: Beatles Self References
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2009, 08:27:00 AM »

Quote from: 1873
Well here's another place you can go

I always thought of this as a reference to There's A Place.
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Re: Beatles Self References
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2009, 11:49:26 AM »

Just before the 'She loves you yeah yeah yeah' line in All you need is Love, Paul says 'Yesterday - oh yeah'
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Re: Beatles Self References
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2009, 12:07:46 PM »

GIRL is used in these songs
Anna
Another Girl
Back In The USSR
Bad Boy
Boys
Dizzy Miss Lizzy
Don't Bother Me
Drive My Car
Eight Days A Week
For You Blue
Get Back
Girl
Happiness Is A Warm Gun
Her Majesty
Honey Pie
I Am The Walrus
I Feel Fine
I Should Have Known Better
I'll Cry Instead
I'm A Loser
I've Just Seen A Face
It's Only Love
Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
Martha My Dear
Mr Moonlight
Norwegian Wood
Obladi Oblada
Octopus Garden
Old Brown Shoe
Please Mister Postman
Please Please Me
Polythene Pam
Real Love
Rocky Raccoon
Run For Your Life
Thank You Girl
Things We Said Today
Ticket To Ride
Twist and Shout
What Goes On
What You're Doing
When I Get Home
Yer Blues
You Won't See Me
You're Going To Lose That Girl

WAIT is used in these
Blackbird
Don't Pass Me By
Eleanor Rigby
Get Back
Golden Slumbers
Hey Jude
I Am The Walrus
I Don't Want To Spoil The Party
I Want To Tell You
I Will
I'm Only Sleeping
Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
Magical Mystery Tour
Maxwell's Silver Hammer
Obladi Oblada
Penny Lane
Please Mister Postman
Real Love
Revolution
Sexy Sadie
Shes Leaving Home
The Long and Winding Road
Wait
What Goes On
What You're Doing
When I Get Home
Within You Without You


I WILL in here
A Taste of Honey
All I've Got To Do
All My Loving
Anna
Every Little Thing
Fixing A Hole
Golden Slumbers
I Don't Want To Spoil The Party
I Will
I'll Be Back
I'll Get You
Michelle
Misery
She's A Woman
Tell Me What You See
The Night Before
Things We Said Today
We Can Work It Out
You Like Me Too Much
You Won't See Me
You're Going To Lose That Girl

MISERY
Ask Me Why
Matchbox
Misery
Think For Yourself
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Re: Beatles Self References
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2009, 10:49:56 AM »

If we can use solo songs:  In Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder's song "What's That You're Doing", they sing "We love you, yeah, yeah, yeah."
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Re: Beatles Self References
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2009, 07:54:30 AM »

Quote from: 373

Is this factual or are we reaching a tad here? Just wondering (good answer nontheless).

Good question. I can't remember if I read about that line somewhere, or if I sort of thought of it myself, but I always felt that line was Paul referencing his (then current) experimentation with drugs, in a subtle way. I know Paul mentioned that the song was a drug song, and I always thought he was sort of saying that he is taking the time for drugs, something he wasn't into during the time he wrote Yesterday.

I love that line. Every time I hear it, literally every time, I get goosebumps. Great song.
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Re: Beatles Self References
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2009, 06:09:30 AM »

Thanks for all the suggestions.  This is for one of many Beatles infographics I'm creating.  I'll post a draft of this one soon, which has a timeline with a notch for each Beatles song, and arrow paths arching from a song containing a reference back to the song to which it's alluding

I've also tentatively included arches corresponding to "here's another place you can go" (Glass Onion pointing back to There's A Place) thanks to Bobber's suggestion, and one for "I'm taking the time for a number of things that weren't important yesterday" (Fixing A Hole pointing back to Yesterday) thanks to Dr. Robert's suggestion.  I like these, but they are the only 2 of the lot that might be debatable.  What do you all think?
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