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Before LIBN was released, was this version of the Long and Winding Road available?
I actually like LIBN better than LIB!
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Before LIBN was released, was this version of the Long and Winding Road available?
According to this article: The Long and Winding Road (http://www.beatlesbible.com/songs/the-long-and-winding-road/), the song was available on Let it Be, 1, Anthology 3 and LIBN and of course the single so I don't think so. But if someone else has info I haven't found I'll defer to them! I'm sure the collectors had it though.
I actually like LIBN better than LIB!
I agree, especially when it comes to this particular song.
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Overall I still prefer the original Let it Be. I do probably favour the stripped down LAWR over the celestial choir version. But I don't think either are ideal versions. Something with more subtle strings might have done the trick for me. It's never been a favourite Beatle song of mine and I think it's one where they never quite got the right approach. Which was unusual for them to say the least.
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Somehow, WBAI-FM, a listener-supported Pacifica station, had the "naked" versions of the affected Let It Be songs in 1970 and played them regularly. I was much more impressed with the non-Spectorized versions. But last year, I heard the blues version of The Long And Winding Road...
The Beatles - The Long And Winding Road Blues Version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOSBmJaHi6U#)
Too bad they didn't release it that way.
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And imagine if they got Eric Clapton to do the guitar solos!
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A seven minute guitar and organ solo in the middle would have been just the ticket to make it a long road indeed.
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I didn't like 'Let It Be.....Naked', and got rid of my copy soon after its release.
Has anyone actually played it in the last ten years?
(Mind you, it was considerably better than 'Love'!!!)
It seemed to neutralise and flatten the songs, going completely against the original 'The Beatles As Nature Intended' concept.
My copy of choice is the late 1980s CD.....£4......job (cheaply and better) done.
Funnily enough, although I can't stand the Phil Spector production of 'All Things Must Pass', I could never quite understand Paul's animosity towards Spector's production on the 1970 LP.
If a mono/stereo CD reissue programme was finally and belatedly granted to the group's back catalogue, 'Let It Be' would work perfectly with the Spector mix on CD1 and the Glyn Johns' mix on CD2, with a sprinkling of 'Anthology 3'/unreleased tracks added to each disc.....just don't hold your breath!
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I didn't like 'Let It Be.....Naked', and got rid of my copy soon after its release.
Has anyone actually played it in the last ten years?
Probably people who like it. ;)
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I like 'Naked' and the the original just about equally. The original was my fave album ever for a year or so, upon its release. 'Naked' is nice for the obvious reason, just to hear the boys playing and singing without all the extras. And I do listen once in a while.
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And imagine if they got Eric Clapton to do the guitar solos!
No!
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History has made the Spector version of Let It Be the version that most fans dig better. Personally, I'd wish that Let It Be Naked was released in 1970 as the official album. I think these mixes better shows what The Beatles were doing and what their intentions were.
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The Beatles' intentions according to the adverts for the 'Get Back' 45 were to get back to.....'The Beatles How Nature Intended'.
I can't for the life of me see how McCartney's tinkering in the 21st Century succeeds more in that aim than the original 'Get Back'/'Don't Let Me Down' and 'Let It Be' 45s and the Spector LP.
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A lot of talk is thrown around about Spector's additions of orchestration, choir, etc., but when you look at the whole album those things are really on only a handful of tracks. Most of the songs are pretty much guitars, drums, piano and vocals, with little if any adornment. Those that are fattened up, so to speak, don't sound a whole lot different from what Martin would have done, and did in many instances before that.
Spector got a raw deal and I think the album's just fine. One of my faves, in fact. Hearing 'Naked' is something like listening to 'Anthology' tracks. Interesting, but the original is still the original. Can't change that.
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A lot of talk is thrown around about Spector's additions of orchestration, choir, etc., but when you look at the whole album those things are really on only a handful of tracks. Most of the songs are pretty much guitars, drums, piano and vocals, with little if any adornment. Those that are fattened up, so to speak, don't sound a whole lot different from what Martin would have done, and did in many instances before that.
Spector got a raw deal and I think the album's just fine. One of my faves, in fact. Hearing 'Naked' is something like listening to 'Anthology' tracks. Interesting, but the original is still the original. Can't change that.
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I agree. Long and Winding is the obvious offence. Adding horns to I Me Mine was a plus I think. And half the songs are from the unadorned rooftop performance. So his wrecking of Let It Be has been overstated.
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'The Long And Winding Road' is horrible no matter what version is played.
'Let It Be Naked' is awful and I doubt I will ever play it again.
'Let It Be' the album is their worst effort and kind of sucks if you think about it.
'Love' is better then any version of the album whether its the original or Naked.
There,,,have a great day.
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The strike rate may be higher on a Beatles website but I'd guess, call it a hunch, that 'Love' is the most neglected disc in thousands of CD collections around the world.
It's probably also the most dated sounding.
It might have worked in the context of the show, 99% of people who bought it simply won't know, but it's a blot on a back catalogue that post-1970 seems to have more than its *fair share of blots.
*Though not nearly as many as The Rolling Stones.
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'The Long And Winding Road' is horrible no matter what version is played.
'Let It Be Naked' is awful and I doubt I will ever play it again.
'Let It Be' the album is their worst effort and kind of sucks if you think about it.
'Love' is better then any version of the album whether its the original or Naked.
There,,,have a great day.
LOL!
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The strike rate may be higher on a Beatles website but I'd guess, call it a hunch, that 'Love' is the most neglected disc in thousands of CD collections around the world.
I would think that if people bothered to buy it, its probably played more often then a ton of other CD's. I have hundreds of CD's that I would rank below 'Love' ('Let It Be' would be one of them), but then again, I guess I belong to this Beatles board
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As a matter of fact I played Love in the car yesterday. And loved it.
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I think that Love and its follower Da Capo are good albums, but Forever Changes is way better... ;D
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I quite enjoyed Love. Appreciating it was done for a specific purpose. They couldn't just toss on the Red and Blue albums and tell Cirque to perform. Some of the mash ups work well. The way they put together the different takes of Strawberry Fields created a legitimate new version to me. And While my Guitar Gently Weeps with the strings is gorgeous.
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I think that Love and its follower Da Capo are good albums, but Forever Changes is way better... ;D
(http://gallery.zzq.org/d/70941-1/fry-see-what-you-did-there.jpg)
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As a matter of fact I played Love in the car yesterday. And loved it.
I enjoy parts of it quite a bit. I always have this feeling though that I'll never truly appreciate it until I make it to Vegas and see the show. I may never really get it!
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Re: 'Love'.....If I wanted to listen to c*** from the 21st Century I'd buy a Madonna record, always leave pop music to those who knew how to do it!
Of far more interest is Love, the group, and I have to say that 'Da Capo' is narrowly my fave. Narrowly, mind.
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Of far more interest is Love, the group, and I have to say that 'Da Capo' is narrowly my fave. Narrowly, mind.
Your the only person that I've ever heard that prefers 'De Capo' over 'Forever Changes'. Odd since 'De Capo' is basically a pop album (except for Revelation, but that song kills the entire album with its 19 minute running time) and that's exactly what you were criticizing 'Love' for. Odd
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'The Long And Winding Road' is horrible no matter what version is played.
'Let It Be Naked' is awful and I doubt I will ever play it again.
'Let It Be' the album is their worst effort and kind of sucks if you think about it.
'Love' is better then any version of the album whether its the original or Naked.
There,,,have a great day.
Broadly in agreement with you Todd, although "horrible" (TLAWR) and "awful" (LIBN) are a little harsh in my opinion.
One overrated "standard" on a Beatles album is tolerable (e.g. "Yesterday" on "Help!") but there are two on "Let It Be" ("The Long And Winding Road" and "Across The Universe") and their twin shadows do the album no favours in my view. That said, "Yellow Submarine" just pips "Let It Be" as their worst original album for me... mainly because YS (which should have been an EP) was only half an album, and lazily padded out at that.
The largely pointless release of LIBN showed Paul in a peevish light. I for one don't mind the original Spector productions and don't find them intrusive, but then again I never wrote the songs! The one thing I will give "Naked" over the original is its inclusion of "Don't Let Me Down" - scandalously absent from the 1970 release.
As for "Love", it is easily my most played Beatles album of recent years. That's partly because I have more than one copy of it, so one version seems to permanently reside in my car and therefore is often played. It's also a cleverly and caringly tailored blend of "all eras" Beatles, so the lazy listener can indulge in stuff from 1963 and 1969 almost simultaneously, and continuously, which I think is great. Purists no doubt abhor the sacrilege, but I adore Beatles mash-ups and McCartney's own favourite bit (the "Drive My Car/The Word/What You're Doing" sequence) is also my highlight, along with the "Strawberry Fields" amalgam and that sublime "Tomorrow Never Knows/Within You Without You" hybrid. The whole thing is just so damn listenable with each great bit rolling on into the next. What's not to enjoy?
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Broadly in agreement with you Todd, although "horrible" (TLAWR) and "awful" (LIBN) are a little harsh in my opinion.
The one thing I will give "Naked" over the original is its inclusion of "Don't Let Me Down" - scandalously absent from the 1970 release.
I never understood that either. Easily the best John song to my mind coming from the sessions. And as it was done on the rooftop concert was part of the whole reason they did the album. To do live material.
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One overrated "standard" on a Beatles album is tolerable (e.g. "Yesterday" on "Help!") but there are two on "Let It Be" ("The Long And Winding Road" and "Across The Universe") and their twin shadows do the album no favours in my view. That said, "Yellow Submarine" just pips "Let It Be" as their worst original album for me... mainly because YS (which should have been an EP) was only half an album, and lazily padded out at that.
It's interesting in considering the Beatle dynamics that a George ballad like All Things Must Pass was passed over in the sessions while TLAWR made it on. Doesn't seem like Paul was going to relinquish the ballad reins.
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The one thing I will give "Naked" over the original is its inclusion of "Don't Let Me Down" - scandalously absent from the 1970 release.
Probably the fact that "Don't Let Me Down" had recently been included in the American Hey Jude album prevented its inclusion in Let It Be. And British buyers were used to have singles sides outside the albums.
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Broadly in agreement with you Todd, although "horrible" (TLAWR) and "awful" (LIBN) are a little harsh in my opinion.
Yeah, I was a bit over the top on my description there. I do abhor TAWR though. One of my least favorite Beatle songs ever. I also prefer the Spectorized LIB over 'Naked'. Force of habit I suppose.
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'Love' is the Beatles' equivalent of 20/20 cricket v. Test Cricket.
Moderately interesting if there really is no alternative (i.e. Michael Jackson v. Madonna v. hippity hop v. 'Love', and 'Love' wins) but when there's a proper LP/compilation as an option, I know where my preference lies.
In 20 years time, if not already, people new to the group will have to have the concept of 'Love' explained to them in much the same way that the (awful) 'Movie Medley'/Stars on 45 thing would need an explanation now.
I'm not sure they'll need 'A Hard Day's Night' or 'Abbey Road' explained.
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Probably the fact that "Don't Let Me Down" had recently been included in the American Hey Jude album prevented its inclusion in Let It Be. And British buyers were used to have singles sides outside the albums.
Yes, that's exactly the reason Don't Let Me Down wasn't on the original Let It Be. It was a casualty of the project being held up for a year, becoming a film etc.The original Get Back album would have had Don't Let Me Down as you can see from the sleeves prepared at the time.
But it was a daft decision. Let It Be could quite easily have included all the songs from the rooftop. It would have made perfect sense in the context of the film. And the version where Lennon flubs the lyrics is true to the original off-the-cuff idea. Let It Be Naked was just a huge opportunity to put this right but they completely messed up.
My favourite version of TLAWR by the way is the one on Anthology but I don't mind Spector's version. And in whatever version I think it's a magnificent song.
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'Love' is the Beatles' equivalent of 20/20 cricket v. Test Cricket.
Not really... although 20/20 cricket is much more fun and entertaining than boringly s-l-o-w test matches, "Love" has the snappy/lively appeal of 20/20 but the original Beatles albums are incomparably great - far better than test cricket.
'Movie Medley'/Stars on 45 thing
...were great!!!
But "Love" is an even better, album-length collage - overseen by George Martin & son! Fantastic IMO.
And no explanations of any of these recordings necessary, then, now or in the future... it's ALL "Beatle music" - it doesn't need explaining!
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Let it Be is a good album with good songs. However, The Long and Winding Road not being Paul's true vision, the exclusion of the utterly fantastic Don't Let Me Down, and the chatter before songs go against it for me. Dig It could have been expanded as well. But apart from that, Let It Be has the groundwork to be a top tier Beatles album. Let It Be...Naked isn't *the* album, but that goes to show its true potential.
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LIB was my fave for a number of years. Far above 'Abbey Road.' It still has a lot of sentimental value for me, and remains in my top 5 or so.
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