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Title: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: on April 26, 2005, 10:53:30 AM
Dear all

I am hoping this might be of interest to you or someone you know.
I have for sale an entire music collection of Genesis Publications Books (35 of them in total). Most of them are Beatles related. Many are out of print/fully subscibed and many are signed/autographed by some of the Beatles and/or their photographers. The collection must be sold as a whole, so can not sell individual books.
 
The collection can be viewed at www.gnuga.com
Please email me if you have any queries.
 
Kind regards
Irena Sprey
Gnuga Strategic Sales
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: The End on April 26, 2005, 10:15:43 PM
God, this collection must be worth an absolute fortune!!!! I am VERY envious... and, unfortunately, very poor! :(
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: Mairi on April 26, 2005, 11:07:21 PM
^same here Al!
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: lennonlemon on April 27, 2005, 02:30:51 PM
wow, great job. unfortunately, i'm still young and money doesn;t pour for me.
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 28, 2005, 08:20:24 PM
This smells to high heaven.

The terms and conditions, as stated on the web site, are amateurish and frightening.

I'll give just one indication that this lot are on the nose; there are others if you read with suspicion! Here it is: For buyers within Australia, the final price excludes GST. The Purchaser may incur GST in addition to the final price. Second-hand goods currently do not attract GST when purchased within Australia. The last sentence is simply not true. Goods, new or second-hand, purchased in Australia, attract GST.

But far worse and of great concern, is that the "company" does NOT give a street address. That's the signal to stay away at all costs.
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: on April 29, 2005, 12:06:54 AM
Dear Ydoll Gwyn

For your infomation, Gnuga is a legitimate Australian business reistered with the Department of fair Trading, you can check their website if you don't believe me. Second hand goods DO NOT currently attract GST if purchased within Australia (though some secondhand dealers may charge it), I have had both accounting and legal advice on this. Obviously you've had different advice. The terms and condiitons are fairly standard for an Australian auction house, if you find them "amateurish and frightening" than perhaps you should avoid all auction houses. I have specifically written them in plain Engish, so that you don't need a lawyer to decifer them.
The company trades through the internet. I operate this company from my home. The goods I sell reside with their owners or in bank vaults until they are sold, so I don't have a premises like other auction houses.
Your slanderous remarks are really uncalled for. If you had questions or issues with the company why didn't you contact me first? Why did you feel compelled to go on a public forum with slanderous and insulting comments?
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: pc31 on April 29, 2005, 12:56:42 AM
thats just his way don't let him bring you down....his opinion is often his alone.
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 29, 2005, 07:17:14 AM
Quote from: isprey
Dear Ydoll Gwyn
Why did you feel compelled to go on a public forum with slanderous and insulting comments?

Because you advertised on a public forum! And, they are not slanderous comments. You don't give a street address. Anyone with sense knows that one does NOT do business with people who avoid giving their street business address.

About the GST: I have certainly had different advice. I will look into it, as someone at work today said they thought 2nd-hand stuff didn't attract GST.

Can you tell us which "internet auction site" you will be using? Why should people pay any attention with so many unknowns?

Lastly, trust in business is earned. That's why reputation and "goodwill" are priceless commodities. A newbie in a business like this has got to expect suspicion - at least from intelligent and wary buyers.
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 29, 2005, 07:21:07 AM
Quote from: pc31
thats just his way don't let him bring you down....his opinion is often his alone.

Do be quiet, Constable Plod.

The fact that my opinion is often mine alone has NOTHING to do with how correct it is, its logic, its justifications. I know you're a bully - and therefore you just love the herd.
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 29, 2005, 08:51:49 AM
Quote from: isprey
Dear Ydoll Gwyn

Second hand goods DO NOT currently attract GST if purchased within Australia (though some secondhand dealers may charge it), I have had both accounting and legal advice on this. Obviously you've had different advice.

Further on the Goods & Services Tax (GST)issue:

My wife phoned the Australian Tax Office today. It seems that if the selling of second hand goods is done by a registered business (either on their own behalf or another's), then GST is payable by the buyer, and the business has to collect it and remit it to the government. In other words, the fact that it's second hand goods matters not a whit.

However, a transaction between two private individuals does not (of course) attract GST. This is not the situation here.

I'd be intrested if you still want to insist that GST is not payable. I'd imagine it would amount to several thousand dollars in this instance, so it's an important issue.
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: tkitna on April 29, 2005, 08:59:40 AM
Marshall,,,,,herd,,,,thundering herd? I had no idea.

(http://www.allsports.com/store/images/items/010/010_1588995035.jpg)

By the way, that auction looks sweet. If only I had the jack.
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: on April 29, 2005, 11:46:15 AM
Dear Ydoll Gwyn

I will ask my accountant to have another look at the GST issue on Monday. In the meantime I will remove the statement from the Terms and Conditions until the issue is clarified.
To answer your other questions:
I am a registered Trading Assistant on eBay (under isprey) and have a 100% rating. Other members of the team have experience in marketing and managing high value bids for commercialisation of new technology.
I have been approached a number of times (through eBay) to sell high value items. For items of this value I felt it inappropriate to just list on eBay, without informing those people likely to be interested. Therefore Gnuga Strategis Sales is being set up to handle higher value items and target likely interest groups.

As I mentioned before the business is being run from home as we do not handle or store any of the items for sale. This keeps the overheads to a minimum and savings are passed on to the seller. Full contact information (including business address) is provided to all those who register.

eBay will be the most likely auction site I will use for the auction of the books.

I'd be happy to answer any other queries regarding the books here. Maybe we can discuss the other issues regarding the business off-line (irena@gnuga.com).


Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: SieLiebtDich on April 30, 2005, 12:56:06 AM
Quote from: The_End
God, this collection must be worth an absolute fortune!!!! I am VERY envious... and, unfortunately, very poor! :(

aww poor alan, I'm interested ^ ^; but the mean time I'm broke :-/
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: pc31 on April 30, 2005, 09:30:06 AM
Quote from: tkitna
Marshall,,,,,herd,,,,thundering herd? I had no idea.

([url]http://www.allsports.com/store/images/items/010/010_1588995035.jpg[/url])

By the way, that auction looks sweet. If only I had the jack.

i think maria is trying to jack it 4 free.......
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 30, 2005, 09:21:42 PM
For the plodder:

Stultus est sicut stultus facit. Caveat emptor.
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: pc31 on April 30, 2005, 09:48:00 PM
glad you took time out of your busy schedule of belittling others to deal with me.because that means someone else was being left alone.come back when you can't stay so long ria....
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: pc31 on April 30, 2005, 09:53:22 PM
aaawwww look it knows latin too.......lol
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: pc31 on April 30, 2005, 10:02:23 PM
Ex officio.........Lux sit!!!!!why can't you become persona grata Pro Tempera?
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on May 01, 2005, 12:12:09 AM
Quote from: pc31
Ex officio.........Lux sit!!!!!why can't you become persona grata Pro Tempera?

Why are you suddenly using capital letters? Granted, you're using them badly - but you usually don't bother. Maybe you're copying and pasting without understanding? As I say, stultus est sicut stultus facit. (You have looked up what it means, haven't you?)
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: pc31 on May 01, 2005, 01:56:08 AM
sure PIG......capitals are used 4 emPHasis.i didn't think this was english class.i thouight we was doING latin SiR cretiN.i see you won't be persona grata pro tem.coPing is eaSier THan tyPING.....
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: pc31 on May 01, 2005, 01:58:34 AM
lOOk!!!! able to slither from under any rock,able to leap from behind any bush poised to tongue-lash many posters at once its a t-rd,its a vain pain, its sUPEr y-ria.....
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on May 01, 2005, 02:22:35 AM
Quote from: pc31
sure PIG......capitals are used 4 emPHasis.i didn't think this was english class.i thouight we was doING latin SiR cretiN.i see you won't be persona grata pro tem.coPing is eaSier THan tyPING.....

and
Quote
lOOk!!!! able to slither from under any rock,able to leap from behind any bush poised to tongue-lash many posters at once its a t-rd,its a vain pain, its sUPEr y-ria.....

Ah, I see I got it in one with my remarks about the copying and pasting, and capitals. I love getting under your skin, PC Plod, because then you're getting a taste of your own medicine. You think you're pretty smooth, but you lost your temper there very nicely, with all that personal abuse.


Edited to correct an error.
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: pc31 on May 01, 2005, 03:20:42 AM
temper??????you are that full of yerself are you?little people like you never p*ss me off.i just can't believe you convince people that you actually know anything.the way you attack and talk about herds,shows that you were cut from yours.
i just wonder what is under developed besides your people skills.oh and do the world a favor you and your man-woman should not pro-create.contempt for others because you don't fit is an ugly trait to pass on...you seem to be a person the reads people wrong and then covers up by saying oh you will grow into that or this or you are in denial.
i know you have issues otherwise you would not be where noone likes you.........oh wait thats everywheres.
p s i am hireable for your dinner parties.i can act like your other buyable friends.
i bet your eyes are brown, because you are so full of she-ite........
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: pc31 on May 01, 2005, 03:24:06 AM
i abuse you without emotion.i learned to disassociate myself from from forum banter.it is not as up there on my list as yours it seems.bovinity be yours........
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: pc31 on May 01, 2005, 03:25:28 AM
look a free typo from from...........
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: slick rick on May 01, 2005, 03:43:08 AM
you two need to chill........and i mean you dolly-ria......
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: slick rick on May 01, 2005, 03:45:15 AM
and b4 you say who i am like you solved another case....everyone else is already privvy to that information....but you could make something up,like you usually do.use big words and you will be believed as usual.....
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on May 01, 2005, 05:30:46 AM
Quote from: pc31
i abuse you without emotion.
That is the most ridiculous thing for you to say! I can see the saliva from your mouth spraying your screen.

Quote from: pc31
i learned to disassociate myself from from forum banter.
Again, ridiculous. Go and check what you've said to Wayne, and Joe K and even your one-time friend, Charlie. Dissociate yourself from forum banter? Talk about self-delusion!

Quote from: pc31
bovinity be yours........
That's so labored, it doesn't even begin to work as an insult.
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on May 01, 2005, 05:40:33 AM
Quote from: pc31
i bet your eyes are brown, because you are so full of she-ite........

Well, that managed to insult a lot of people! You are a thoughtless poster.
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: Indica on May 01, 2005, 01:43:17 PM
Really pathetic... beyond belief.
Title: Re: 35 Genesis publications books sale mostly Beatles
Post by: The End on May 01, 2005, 03:08:48 PM
Closed thread - sorry.