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Title: New/Old Material from June 1961 with Tony Sheridan in November
Post by: Badgirl66 on September 30, 2011, 04:43:18 AM
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The 2-CD set comes with a specially-designed book that is a historical trove of concert and intimate photos taken by Astrid Kirchherr and others who were with The Beatles during the early days of their career. 

The book also includes handwritten biographies by each member of the group, signed contracts, original artwork taken from posters and records, and text by  Hans Olof Gottfridsson, who has spent years researching this period of the Beatles’ career.
 
In North America, it is generally believed that the Beatles’ recording career began on Capitol in 1964. Few know that it actually began on the German Polydor label in 1961.
 
As Gottfridsson notes in the book for The Beatles With Tony Sheridan: First Recordings: 50th Anniversary Edition, Polydor executive and big band leader Bert Kaempfert discovered the group in a German nightclub, signing them to his own company and then releasing the songs through Polydor.
 
The night they signed the contract at Kaempfert’s kitchen table, the four Beatles wrote brief autobiographies, reproduced here in their original handwriting.
 
Through a combination of music, photos, documents, artwork and history, The Beatles With Tony Sheridan: First Recordings beautifully captures John Lennon, Paul McCartney and George Harrison just before they rocketed to international stardom. The earliest days of The Beatles have never been revisited in such detail.
 
The set includes every recording they made for Kaempfert and Polydor in 1961 and 1962.  Multiple versions  have been released throughout the past several decades – some in mono, some in stereo – each with distinctly different sounds.
 
Most notably, the US versions of these tracks were overdubbed with another guitar player and drummer in an attempt to mirror the edgier sound the group had evolved into, unbeknownst to American fans at the time of their release in 1964. All versions of every track, including mono and stereo mixes, are included in the double disc set, remarkable in their difference but all bearing the same unmistakable sound of a wholly new kind of band.
 
Many of the Polydor tracks feature Tony Sheridan on lead vocals, a decision made by Kaempfert.  However, John Lennon sings lead vocals on Ain’t She Sweet, and George Harrison plays an instrumental, Cry For A Shadow.


Title: Re: New/Old Material from June 1961 with Tony Sheridan in November
Post by: peregrine9 on September 30, 2011, 06:09:22 AM
Contact Music
September 29, 2011
Beatles First Recordings To Be Released In Pre-Christmas Package

Fans of the Beatles are set for an early Christmas present - the group's earliest recordings with singer Tony Sheridan have been collected for a new double album package to mark the Fab Four's 50th anniversary.The Beatles With Tony Sheridan: First Recordings features tracks the band performed with Sheridan as Polydor artists after bandleader and music executive Bert Kaempfert discovered them performing in a German nightclub in 1961.

http://www.contactmusic.com/news/beatles-first-recordings-to-be-released-in-pre-christmas-package_1247696 (http://www.contactmusic.com/news/beatles-first-recordings-to-be-released-in-pre-christmas-package_1247696)
Title: Re: New/Old Material from June 1961 with Tony Sheridan in November
Post by: Bobber on September 30, 2011, 06:40:24 AM
This has been released some many times before. I'll skip this one.
Title: Re: New/Old Material from June 1961 with Tony Sheridan in November
Post by: peregrine9 on September 30, 2011, 06:49:20 AM
I'm going to bump this one post up.Because it new information that was just released.
Title: Re: New/Old Material from June 1961 with Tony Sheridan in November
Post by: Badgirl66 on September 30, 2011, 06:58:57 AM
interest for me candids of Astrid pictures??
Title: Re: New/Old Material from June 1961 with Tony Sheridan in November
Post by: peregrine9 on September 30, 2011, 04:14:43 PM
Contact Music
September 29, 2011
Beatles First Recordings To Be Released In Pre-Christmas Package

Fans of the Beatles are set for an early Christmas present - the group's earliest recordings with singer Tony Sheridan have been collected for a new double album package to mark the Fab Four's 50th anniversary.The Beatles With Tony Sheridan: First Recordings features tracks the band performed with Sheridan as Polydor artists after bandleader and music executive Bert Kaempfert discovered them performing in a German nightclub in 1961.

http://www.contactmusic.com/news/beatles-first-recordings-to-be-released-in-pre-christmas-package_1247696 (http://www.contactmusic.com/news/beatles-first-recordings-to-be-released-in-pre-christmas-package_1247696)
Title: Re: New/Old Material from June 1961 with Tony Sheridan in November
Post by: Badgirl66 on October 05, 2011, 09:14:25 AM
Disk: 1
1. Ain t She Sweet (U.S. version) The Beatles 2. My Bonnie 3. The Saints (When the Saints Go Marching In) 4. Cry for a Shadow - The Beatles 5. Why 6. If You Love Me, Baby (Take Out Some Insurance on Me, Baby) (U.S. version) 7. Nobody s Child (U.S. version) 8. Sweet Georgia Brown (New lyrics) 9. Ain t She Sweet - The Beatles 10. My Bonnie (English intro) 11. If You Love Me, Baby (Take Out Some Insurance on Me, Baby) 12. Nobody s Child 13. Sweet Georgia Brown (U.S. version) 14. My Bonnie (German intro) 15. The Saints (Medley version) 16. Cry for a Shadow (Medley version 1) - The Beatles 17. Sweet Georgia Brown 18. My Bonnie (Medley version) 19. Cry for a Shadow (Medley version 2) - The Beatles

Disk: 2
1. Ain t She Sweet - The Beatles 2. My Bonnie 3. When the Saints Go Marching In 4. Cry for a Shadow - The Beatles 5. Why 6. Sweet Georgia Brown (New lyrics) 7. My Bonnie (English intro) 8. If You Love Me, Baby (Take Out Some Insurance on Me, Baby) 9. Nobody s Child 10. My Bonnie (German intro) 11. The Saints (Medley version) 12. Cry for a Shadow (Medley version 1) - The Beatles 13. Sweet Georgia Brown 14. My Bonnie (Medley version) 15. Cry for a Shadow (Medley version 2) - The Beatles
Title: Re: New/Old Material from June 1961 with Tony Sheridan in November
Post by: tkitna on October 06, 2011, 12:02:57 AM
Seriously? 2 discs of different versions of these songs? A definate pass for me. Who would ever pull this out and listen to it? I have a CD of Tony and the Beatles with these songs on it and trust me when I tell you its for decoration only.
Title: Re: New/Old Material from June 1961 with Tony Sheridan in November
Post by: Badgirl66 on October 06, 2011, 06:45:14 AM
is true me interest the  candids of Astrid pictures??
Title: Re: New/Old Material from June 1961 with Tony Sheridan in November
Post by: tkitna on October 06, 2011, 07:26:18 AM
Well I can go along with that. Some rare Astrid pics would be cool.
Title: Re: New/Old Material from June 1961 with Tony Sheridan in November
Post by: Badgirl66 on October 06, 2011, 09:00:34 AM
Well I can go along with that. Some rare Astrid pics would be cool.


But the Problem i have her Books and so many unpublished is meanwhile very improbable.






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Title: Re: New/Old Material from June 1961 with Tony Sheridan in November
Post by: Bobber on October 07, 2011, 07:38:22 AM
Seriously? 2 discs of different versions of these songs? A definate pass for me. Who would ever pull this out and listen to it? I have a CD of Tony and the Beatles with these songs on it and trust me when I tell you its for decoration only.

A definate pass for me as well. This has been released over and over again.
Title: Re: New/Old Material from June 1961 with Tony Sheridan in November
Post by: peterbell1 on October 10, 2011, 11:49:51 AM
Yeah, there were only eight songs ever recorded, so I think trying to stretch them out over 2 discs is a bit much.
And the description of the set says "rarely seen" Astrid photos, not "unreleased", so there is nothing new here at all, I would assume.

Nevertheless, it's good that someone is doing something to mark the 50th anniversary of their first record release.

I have a copy of that 1961 German Polydor version of My Bonnie and it is one of my most treasured items in my Beatles collection. Mine is the German intro "Rock" version.
Title: Re: New/Old Material from June 1961 with Tony Sheridan in November
Post by: Badgirl66 on October 10, 2011, 04:27:01 PM
intimate photos taken by Astrid Kirchherr  ???
Title: Re: New/Old Material from June 1961 with Tony Sheridan in November
Post by: elvinmasih on October 12, 2011, 03:08:13 AM
Hello,
 8)
I remember purchasing a 2 cd set about 3-4 years ago
The set included the Tony Sherdian,Beat Brothers, Beatles recordings form 1961
This set was the most complete including mono and stereo versions
the label was Bear Records
I thnk this is the exact same material repackaged by a different label
Maybe the copyrights are temp

Does anyone elese have any info on this?
Title: Re: New/Old Material from June 1961 with Tony Sheridan in November
Post by: Bobber on October 12, 2011, 07:10:23 AM
^Bear Records? Sounds like a bootleg to me. That could explain why it's now released legally.
Title: Re: New/Old Material from June 1961 with Tony Sheridan in November
Post by: tkitna on October 12, 2011, 08:54:20 AM
Hello,
 8)
I remember purchasing a 2 cd set about 3-4 years ago
The set included the Tony Sherdian,Beat Brothers, Beatles recordings form 1961
This set was the most complete including mono and stereo versions
the label was Bear Records
I thnk this is the exact same material repackaged by a different label
Maybe the copyrights are temp

Does anyone elese have any info on this?


http://theseconddisc.com/2011/10/04/aint-they-sweet-the-beatles-hamburg-recordings-revisited-by-time-life/ (http://theseconddisc.com/2011/10/04/aint-they-sweet-the-beatles-hamburg-recordings-revisited-by-time-life/)
Title: Re: New/Old Material from June 1961 with Tony Sheridan in November
Post by: Badgirl66 on October 12, 2011, 09:02:07 AM
^Bear Records? Sounds like a bootleg to me. That could explain why it's now released legally.



All legal from Germany
correct tkitna -Beatles Bop and Hamburg Sounds
many Sheridan late Stuff
http://www.bear-family.de/ (http://www.bear-family.de/)

nearly the same Songs without Swanee River (4 times)

But this Set is from WEA /Time Life
Title: Re: New/Old Material from June 1961 with Tony Sheridan in November
Post by: elvinmasih on October 13, 2011, 07:25:22 AM
Thanks tkitna,Badgirl66,

I knew it was not a bootleg was imported from Germany
but couldn't remember the correct title

 :)
Title: Re: New/Old Material from June 1961 with Tony Sheridan in November
Post by: Fact and Fiction 60-62 on October 22, 2011, 06:39:38 PM
Absolutely nothing new as far as the music is concerned, and Astrid "rarely seen" photographs are all more or less already published here and there.
Much better to get the original Bear Family box-set which was released in 2001 (including a colour discography of Tony Sheridan and the Beat Brothers/Beatles).
More info here : http://beatles.ncf.ca/krasker2.html (http://beatles.ncf.ca/krasker2.html)
Thanks !  ;)
Title: Re: New/Old Material from June 1961 with Tony Sheridan in November
Post by: Badgirl66 on October 23, 2011, 07:45:56 AM
Thanks Eric purchase me anyway first times the Harrison things.

And I Hope this comes soon RAM by Paul
Title: Re: New/Old Material from June 1961 with Tony Sheridan in November
Post by: Fact and Fiction 60-62 on November 30, 2011, 07:38:13 PM
So, we already knew there was nothing new on this set as far as the music is concerned, but the only thing that might have been of any interest, namely the "36-page collector's booklet" is seriously flawed by a number of unnecessary blunders – easily avoidable though, should the appropriate and readily available books had been consulted prior to its writing – and as a result, it is already outdated at the very time of its release. What a pity !...

Please, see the full review of this CD set (including the list of errors) by German author Thorsten Knublauch, on Bootlegzone, it is edifying :

http://www.bootlegzone.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=29921 (http://www.bootlegzone.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=29921)