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Beatles forums => Songs => Topic started by: stopwow673 on April 11, 2015, 08:08:17 PM
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This song gives me the creeps. I hate it. How do the others like it?
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This song gives me the creeps. I hate it. How do the others like it?
I actually like it. I agree that it's unsettling but for once that quality doesn't bother me. I guess to me it represents a sealing of the deal that was hinted at earlier in Revolver and in Rubber Soul as well; that The Beatles! (spoken with a scream afterwards) had been replaced by The Beatles (spoken with reverence). Not that there was anything wrong with the yeah, yeah, yeah Beatles. But they were gone and I always imagine the looks on the faces of the fans who didn't see it coming but knew it when the song ended. My sister's album collection ended with Rubber Soul and I suspect that she had heard Revolver at a friend's house. I remember her referring to that time period as "after The Beatles got weird". For my brother, though, that's when things took off. Amazing what an age difference of 5 years and not being a girl made!
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It's never been exactly a favourite to put on for entertainment purposes. I appreciate the thought that went into it. And as Kelley says, it was the plainest signal of their change. And it fits well into the album. It ranks only middling overall for me though from an enjoyment point of view.
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My favorite song ever. I love the lyrics and especially all those weird sounds on the background.
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I love it. The vocals, the tape loops, the drumming, the seagulls. All of it.
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http://youtu.be/jv2QnMNUE3Q (http://youtu.be/jv2QnMNUE3Q)
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I love it. The vocals, the tape loops, the drumming, the seagulls. All of it.
So those ARE seagulls! I always thought it sounded like that but just assumed I was wrong.
I love this song. It is unsettling, but in a good way, even though that sounds like a contradiction in terms. In contrast, I find Revolution #9 unsettling in a bad way.
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Far out clip George! I never would have guessed that this song was used in the cartoon. I hope you don't mind that I modified your link so the video would imbed in your post. All of a sudden YouTube has been putting an "s" at the end of "http" in the links and that doesn't work. Google....sheesh!
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This song gives me the creeps. I hate it. How do the others like it?
I find the song to be nightmarish. I'm afraid of it. I wonder if I'm in the minority.
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I find the song to be nightmarish. I'm afraid of it. I wonder if I'm in the minority.
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Go to the forum home page and put "tomorrow never knows" in the search box and you can read what's been said on here about it. Make sure to use the quotes. I'm more scared of Revolution 9 and the end of Long, Long, Long. :)
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Far out clip George! I never would have guessed that this song was used in the cartoon. I hope you don't mind that I modified your link so the video would imbed in your post. All of a sudden YouTube has been putting an "s" at the end of "http" in the links and that doesn't work. Google....sheesh!
Thanks for fixing the clip Kelley. I was wondering why it showed up as just a link. That bloody "S"!
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But we defeated it!
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Adore it.
I prefer the Lennon songs of '66 to 'Lucy'/'Walrus'/'A Day In The Life' in '67.
The version on 'Anthology 2' was very different to the released version but, in its own way, equally as good.
It was definitely one of the highlights of the Anthology series.
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Rilly Triffic. Guess you had to be there.
:)
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I find the song to be nightmarish. I'm afraid of it. I wonder if I'm in the minority.
Clearly calculated to strike fear into the hearts of evil-doers.
:P
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So those ARE seagulls! I always thought it sounded like that but just assumed I was wrong.
I love this song. It is unsettling, but in a good way, even though that sounds like a contradiction in terms. In contrast, I find Revolution #9 unsettling in a bad way.
I've read in a couple of books that the seagulls are actually Paul's contribution to the tape loops and are him laughing!
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Clearly calculated to strike fear into the hearts of evil-doers.
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Hah. The most evil people in the world are the ones that sell bootleg Beatles box sets in mono and stereo on eBay. They run the risk of spending eternity listening to Revolution 9 endlessly. Or maybe the Inner Groove.
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They run the risk of spending eternity listening to Revolution 9 endlessly. Or maybe the Inner Groove.
;D I'd much prefer the inner groove if given a choice.
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Head-spinning composition. May just be my favourite Beatles song.
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I've met with a friend and I presented him with my work. And what my 'work' may be?
Well, I've done some translations of my favourite songs to my native language (which is Slavic). Translating is not my profession, but it could be my hobby or passion, let's say.
So, I have printed out the original lyrics of 'TNN' on one paper - and my translation on the second.
He read it both and first thing he said: 'LSD inspired, isn't it?' (My buddy is not a hard-core Beatle fan, but he is open minded if it comes to rock music.)
So, he got the first thing right.
Then, he compared John's lyrics and my work. And the thing is, when I was doing the translation, I understood the verses separately.
Like this, the first verse stands for itself:
Turn off your mind, relax and float down stream
It is not dying, it is not dying
The second is for itself, separated from the first:
Lay down all thoughts, surrender to the void
It is shining, it is shining
Yet you may see the meaning of within...
etc.
But, when my pal looked at my verses and compared it to the original, he said:
'You know, I think the verses are CONNECTED, there is a FLOW: first, you turn off your mind, then, after the mind is turned of, you lay your thoughts, then it follows to - that you may see the meaning within and so on...
And I thought about it and I think he's right. I didn't think about the lyrics in that way. So, now, I'll have to fix the lyrics I wrote to get the same 'flow' as in the original.
So, what have I concluded from this little episode?
Well, first, you have to be open to different interpretations of lyrics than your own.
Second, someone who is not so much into the Beatles (a 'hardcore' fan) can help you and give you objective and pragmatic suggestions.
And now I have a work to do. glassesslip
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So close.
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So close.
ha2ha
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An amazing song, and I think one which demonstrates their musical evolution up to that point.
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I think Tomorrow Never Knows is a real masterpiece and it's incredible when you think what a massive leap The Beatles made when they recorded it as the first track they worked on for Revolver. I'm surprised some aren't keen on it as I could listen to it on a loop. I'm pretty sure the "seagull" sounds aren't real seagulls. I know Geoff Emerick mentioned Paul added some altered sounds of wine glasses ringing but not sure which these are.
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Its never been one of my favorites either. I always though it was kind of monotonous and boring.
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Its never been one of my favorites either. I always though it was kind of monotonous and boring.
I can understand that but for some reason I like it. I guess it's more that the song, for me, is a very tangible marker of the the way they had changed during that period. It actually makes me laugh because Revolver was notably absent from my sister's collection of Beatles albums. I can picture her listening to it at some friend's house and the look on her face when she heard this! I think she sort of passed the Beatles torch on to my brother at this time.
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I found it thrilling when it was first out. Listened over and over. Had the album on the rarest format I know of, reel-to-reel tape. An official Capitol release, with the proper cover art on the box. I'll bet it would be quite the collector's item now. I think I had 'Sgt. Pepper's...' on reel-to-reel too. A little fuzzy on that - need to clean the old tape heads.
:P
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We had a reel to reel machine. I don't remember listening to music on it but somewhere out there (probably in a landfill) is a tape of me reciting nursery rhymes.
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It was one of those strange periods when I didn't have a record player (visiting my dad in SoCal - a great place to be when "Sgt. Pepper's...' was released), but I did have a reel-to-reel, and I got those two albums.
I just took a look and The Beatles albums were put out in that format straight through to 'Abbey Road' - odd but true. Maybe this was a popular format outside the U.S. Dunno.
Anyway, prices on Ebay range from $50 on up to a few hundred. Interesting.
:)
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Its never been one of my favorites either. I always though it was kind of monotonous and boring.
Yeah. It's been touted as a song without chord changes but it alternates between C major and B flat major. Ringo's drumming pattern is spectacular though. And I'm pretty sure those are seagulls.
Now here's a song using predominantly the D minor chord with a few B flats and G minors and seagulls which made it big a year before...
http://youtu.be/l97xELhvYBQ (http://youtu.be/l97xELhvYBQ)
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Maybe this was a popular format outside the U.S. Dunno.
My ex-brother-in-law had a bunch of reel-to-reels and a player that he had with him during the war in Vietnam. They did make it back when he came home but who knows if he still has them now.
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Now here's a song using predominantly the D minor chord with a few B flats and G minors and seagulls which made it big a year before...
I didn't know you liked The Shagri-Las, Barry. ;)
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I didn't know you liked The Shangri-Las, Barry. ;)
Evidently, so did The Beatles...
http://youtu.be/l97xELhvYBQ (http://youtu.be/l97xELhvYBQ)
1:24
http://youtu.be/ODIvONHPqpk (http://youtu.be/ODIvONHPqpk)
1:41 3:03
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Evidently, so did The Beatles...
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And that, Barry, is the difference between a trained ear and mine. ;D
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And that, Barry, is the difference between a trained ear and mine. ;D
Nah, Kelley. That's what happens when you have a crush on Betty Weiss. This is common knowledge on The Ali MacGraw Ward. ;D
I added the earlier bridge at 1:41
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Anyway, Kelley, The Shangri-Las appeared with the Beatles, The Rolling Stones and Dusty Springfield on one of their visits to England. They must have had an impact on The Beatles.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--bJYYoFgyrM/VoShkWrRFYI/AAAAAAAAFfM/Ez4N4ibFixs/s1600/The%2BShangri-Las%2B-%2BShangri-Las%2B%252765%2B%25281965%2529%2B%2528Red%2BBird%2529.jpg) (http://www.youthedesigner.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/dorm-posters-beatles.jpg)
:)
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Oh good grief Barry! I was listening so intently to the music that I didn't even realize it's a lyric thing! ha2ha But I've been having a rough night, from a genealogy standpoint and when I listened to it earlier my mind was all twisted up. But now I get it. And I did come across a clipping a while ago about The Shangra-Las going to England and Mary Weiss developing a medical issue that I think necessitated their early return. I didn't realize the Beatles' connection though. I should have known that!
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I think Tomorrow Never Knows is a real masterpiece and it's incredible when you think what a massive leap The Beatles made when they recorded it as the first track they worked on for Revolver.
Indeed. Tomorrow Never Knows was a statement - especially with it ending the album. It was showing where they were as a band, and what was to come. To me it's a perfect storm of lyrics and atmosphere.
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Oh good grief Barry! I was listening so intently to the music that I didn't even realize it's a lyric thing! ha2ha
Lyrical and musical, Kelley. the bridges to both songs are nearly identical. And I still think that The Beatles got the seagulls idea from The Shangri-Las. :)
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Indeed. Tomorrow Never Knows was a statement - especially with it ending the album. It was showing where they were as a band, and what was to come. To me it's a perfect storm of lyrics and atmosphere.
I agree, BeatleFan. It pointed right to Sgt. Pepper's!
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Lyrical and musical, Kelley. the bridges to both songs are nearly identical.
I was starting to hear it but I'm gonna have to try again tomorrow (never knows).
And I still think that The Beatles got the seagulls idea from The Shangri-Las. :)
Paul would probably go right along with you on that. ;)
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Right. And Dr. Robert had a lot to do with this too...
http://youtu.be/jbX_oOUCcMQ (http://youtu.be/jbX_oOUCcMQ)
;D
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I agree, BeatleFan. It pointed right to Sgt. Pepper's!
Yep. However I still prefer Rubber Soul to Revolver. I think it's the folk element that connects with me. The whole album is so full of life and energy, but with an underlying sense of poignancy. Norwegian Wood and In My Life especially.
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I think Tomorrow Never Knows is a real masterpiece and it's incredible when you think what a massive leap The Beatles made when they recorded it as the first track they worked on for Revolver. I'm surprised some aren't keen on it as I could listen to it on a loop. I'm pretty sure the "seagull" sounds aren't real seagulls. I know Geoff Emerick mentioned Paul added some altered sounds of wine glasses ringing but not sure which these are.
Exactly that. To think it was the FIRST song they recorded for Revolver.
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Right. And Dr. Robert had a lot to do with this too...
Those Beatoons videos certainly are clever.