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Title: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Wayne L. on May 16, 2005, 08:18:50 PM
Illegal immigrants from Mexico or any other foreign country should be deported immediately from the U. S. because they are turning America into another country while politicians from both political parties are pandering to them nauseatingly, which is ludicrous.  I'm all for immigrants from other countries wanting to find a better life in the U. S. for themselves & become citizens of this great country like but there's too many illegals now who only want to start trouble while the goverment & business owners are helping them.  
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Mairi on May 16, 2005, 08:28:02 PM
Because someone is an illegal immigrant, automatically they're a troublemaker? I'm not familiar with the US guidelines regarding immigrants, but they're probably something like Canada's. Higher preference is given to someone with better skills, like a doctor, and also to people with family in the country. You can get in if you're skilled but don't have any family here, or if you have family but less skills. Those with regular jobs and no family in North America pretty much get screwed over.
I'm not saying that illegal immigrants are a good thing, just that the immigration system needs improvement. Well, at lest here it does. Could you tell me a little about how it works in the US?
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: lennonlemon on May 16, 2005, 11:34:22 PM
hey, you're back, Wayne. it's been a while since you last posted, if i remember correctly.

i agree and i guess it's a more personal issue for me because much of my family were new immigrants of the 70s. I don't think it's fair to let people cut in line for oppurtunities that many others struggled and waited a long time for.
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: pc31 on May 17, 2005, 10:29:23 AM
immigrating built this country.no immigrants no u s a.everybody here is from somewheres else.if we deported every family that has been here less than 250 years,then my mom and dads families both would still be here.would yours?
your statement is facist and extreme.and i disagree.maybe we should deport you?
the pilgrims immigrated from england.
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: lennonlemon on May 17, 2005, 10:45:33 AM
i dun think he was talknig about immigrants in general. jsut the illegal ones.
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Rowdy on May 17, 2005, 12:56:18 PM
Ok, Wayne, go ahead and deport all of the Mexicans that illegally come here to work.........and while you're at, watch our economy take a massive hit.
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: John@work on May 17, 2005, 02:35:24 PM
Quote from: pc31
immigrating built this country.no immigrants no u s a.everybody here is from somewheres else.if we deported every family that has been here less than 250 years,then my mom and dads families both would still be here.would yours?
your statement is facist and extreme.and i disagree.maybe we should deport you?
the pilgrims immigrated from england.


Nice post PC!
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Kevin on May 17, 2005, 03:00:24 PM
People who don't feel good about themselves always have the need to find someone lower in the pecking order to castigate in order to make themselves feel better (or something like that)
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: on May 17, 2005, 03:28:19 PM
Quote from: TurnMeOnDeadman

great topic, I agree with you...but one difference, i absolutely hate them

i dont, and i dont think you should be so predijuce againts people...as mairi said, there not automaticaly troublemakers, just becuase there immagrants.

i think john said in his last interview, that he wish there werent such things like passports, and that you have to get permission to get around! its a free world, and people should be able to go whereever they want(although if that happens there would be catastrophy im sure) ::)
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: pc31 on May 18, 2005, 01:49:45 AM
well basically the pilgrims were here to aviod prosecution for non payment of taxes...so were not they here illegally?damn this nation was founded by illegal aliens......or were they criminals???either way maybe the indians should have practiced deportation and we would have been spared this ludicris topic for gods sakes.....sorry that was waynes line.
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Wayne L. on October 12, 2005, 11:26:38 PM
Quote from: Rowdy
Ok, Wayne, go ahead and deport all of the Mexicans that illegally come here to work.........and while you're at, watch our economy take a massive hit.

That's what the federal goverment should do immediately with all illegal immigrants which is to deport them out of the country whether they're from Cuba, Mexico & Saudi Arabia & our economy wouldn't take a massive hit at all especially if they want to become legal U. S. citizens.  
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Mairi on October 13, 2005, 12:03:40 AM
That's what you want, isn't it? Everyone should be just like you.
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Ssarah on October 13, 2005, 01:02:46 AM
I don't know... I grew up in a small town in washington state. When I was 16, two mexicans hit our car, gave my little brother a concusion at the time, and got out of their van and ran. I'm freaking out because I just got my license and was totally freaking, a guy in his 30's was nice and was like hey I saw the whole thing, stop crying it wasn't your fault you won't get in trouble.

The two guys were tracked down...they ran because they were illegal.

Over a hundred times I've felt threatened when I was living at home due to walking down the street and having mexicans come up to me and puting thier hand on my arm and trying to get me to go with them or yelling out their car at me etc. Yeah, when I was like 12.

I am not racist however, Eddy, a guy a year ahead of me was the star of the soccer team and we were friends...reading my sisters journal one day i saw something that made me totally break down. "I thought it would be ok to take a ride in his car because he is sarah's friend..."

Eddy turns out was illegal as well... (how the hell do the schools not find out?!?!?) He was convicted of rape. He was 17 at the time, she was 13. His lawyer advised him to admitt the truth while he was still 17. Luckily, they charged him as an adult.


Someone said watch our economy go down... I agree that would happen. I think part of the problem is Americans are lazy as hell, they sit back and live off welfare while immigrants run around and do the work cheaper.

People complain...stop sending work over seas... many don't complain about immigrants doing the sh*tty jobs.

In reality, the United States is far from perfect. Every empire falls...and unless we start cleaning the U.S. it will fall in the near future. Illegal Immigrants...yes, I think they should be kicked out. However, I think if someone wants to come in from let's say Mexico and get better opportunities for them and their family, they should have to learn some english and have backround checks and get a green card.


This is all opinion, I hope I don't offend anyone.
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Wayne L. on October 13, 2005, 10:15:48 AM
Quote from: Mairi
That's what you want, isn't it? Everyone should be just like you.

You said it, I didn't.
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: pc31 on October 13, 2005, 10:49:37 AM
you have been charge with being mental.how do you plea?????
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Wayne L. on October 13, 2005, 11:45:36 AM
Quote from: pc31
you have been charge with being mental.how do you plea?????

Not guilty.  How do you plead?
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: pc31 on October 13, 2005, 11:56:57 AM
i am insane in the membrane....and you are in denial.....
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Wayne L. on October 13, 2005, 12:03:05 PM
Quote from: pc31
i am insane in the membrane....and you are in denial.....

Denial of what?
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: pc31 on October 13, 2005, 12:16:25 PM
denial of the fact that your opinions are mostly just that...your opinions.
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Wayne L. on October 13, 2005, 12:51:37 PM
Quote from: pc31
denial of the fact that your opinions are mostly just that...your opinions.

Just like you.
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: pc31 on October 13, 2005, 12:56:44 PM
not really.......i do not deny nothing
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Wayne L. on October 13, 2005, 12:57:45 PM
Quote from: pc31
not really.......i do not deny nothing

You deny everything as usual.
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: pc31 on October 13, 2005, 01:41:45 PM
i deny that.....
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Wayne L. on October 13, 2005, 04:14:49 PM
You must be an illegal immigrant anyway pc31?  WTF, let's send you back where you came from.  
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: on October 14, 2005, 12:18:46 AM
Quote from: pc31
i deny that.....

LMFAO!! Thanks PC. I needed that.
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: tkitna on October 14, 2005, 12:34:03 AM
Quote from: pc31
i deny that.....

LOL!!! I agree with JR. Great laughs. Rich indeed!

Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: pc31 on October 14, 2005, 12:44:11 AM
Quote from: Wayne_L.
You must be an illegal immigrant anyway pc31?
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: on October 14, 2005, 12:53:17 AM
Let's see, I'm Italian and Polish, which means I can make myself an offer I can't understand. I'll take Italy, where the wine is warm and the women are furry.
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: tkitna on October 14, 2005, 01:03:22 AM
(http://www.cigarone.com/cigar-shop/img/home/vegas/features/VR_Famosos.jpg)

Cuban?

No, Dutch Irish, but thanks for asking.
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: pc31 on October 14, 2005, 01:04:09 AM
i have dissed wayne in the past because he is totally out of bounds on many occasions.his replys tho weak don't usually affect me but i think that time made my head grow an instant tumor.............
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: pc31 on October 14, 2005, 01:06:59 AM
he is from the longshore moron branch of the family...by the way where do morons come from?
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: tkitna on October 14, 2005, 01:09:23 AM
Moronico
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: on October 14, 2005, 01:09:54 AM
Here's Wayne on a typical, fun-filled Saturday morning:

(http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/8700/chalupa3fr.th.png) (http://img158.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chalupa3fr.png)
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: tkitna on October 14, 2005, 01:11:12 AM
(http://yourmomsbox11.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/short_bus_monster.jpg)
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: pc31 on October 14, 2005, 01:12:58 AM
i believe that some how some anti beatle type put this guy here to drive us away...its a plot  from yoko maybe or else i am crazy...wayne fess up...who sent u?yoko?pete??
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: pc31 on October 14, 2005, 01:19:07 AM
Quote from: tkitna
([url]http://yourmomsbox11.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/short_bus_monster.jpg[/url])
(http://www.doctorhormone.com/images/t-sh*t_pic_small.jpg)
waynes baby picture?
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Ssarah on October 14, 2005, 02:00:19 AM
I'm sad no one argued with me.
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Mairi on October 14, 2005, 02:01:39 AM
We know better than to argue with you Sarah!
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Ssarah on October 14, 2005, 02:04:13 AM
Why?:(
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Joost on October 14, 2005, 07:57:01 AM
Quote from: pc31
you are really a MORON wayne how can you send native americans back????????

Thanks a lot for making me laugh out loud at work...  ;D

Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Joost on October 14, 2005, 07:58:24 AM
If this would be my board, I'd ban Wayne. Seriously. This guy is just impossible to communicate with and has no intention to be reasonable about anything.
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Bobber on October 14, 2005, 08:11:50 AM
Quote from: Biscuit_Power
If this would be my board, I'd ban Wayne. Seriously. This guy is just impossible to communicate with and has no intention to be reasonable about anything.

I really wonder if he will agree with you on this one, agreeable as you two seem these days.
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Joost on October 14, 2005, 09:00:09 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: JonnyMoondog on October 14, 2005, 03:26:24 PM
I am now an immigrant to the USA... legally luckily, but the border control in this country is pathetic. I know of an English person who flew into Canada recently, drove across the border to MI and is now working under the table.

That p*sses me off considering all the sh*t I went through to get here. The US needs to protect its borders much better than it does.
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Bobber on October 14, 2005, 06:32:39 PM
My neighbours went to the US recently, just for a holiday. It took them almost four hours to pass the customs and they told me everybody who wants to get into the country is regarded as potentially dangerous and/or criminal. To get out however was very easy: the sooner you got out, the better. No, they're not planning another holiday in the US...
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Joost on October 14, 2005, 06:36:22 PM
Honestly, I must say that it always used to be one of my dreams to go visit the USA, but ever since that whole homeland security thing started I don't even want to go anymore.
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: adamzero on October 14, 2005, 09:49:05 PM
Quote from: Biscuit_Power
Honestly, I must say that it always used to be one of my dreams to go visit the USA, but ever since that whole homeland security thing started I don't even want to go anymore.

Don't let the homeland b.s. influence you.  There's too many great places to see here.  (Though nothing as wide open as Amsterdam!)   And give me a call when you come thru Nashville (on your way to Memphis!).
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: JonnyMoondog on October 14, 2005, 10:19:59 PM
Quote from: Bobber
My neighbours went to the US recently, just for a holiday. It took them almost four hours to pass the customs and they told me everybody who wants to get into the country is regarded as potentially dangerous and/or criminal. To get out however was very easy: the sooner you got out, the better. No, they're not planning another holiday in the US...

It's true... but only in busy airports, my point is the border control sucks! If you can fly into Canada and cross the border with nobody stopping you then what sort of protection is that.

Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Bobber on October 15, 2005, 08:41:54 AM
Quote from: adamzero

Don't let the homeland b.s. influence you.
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Ssarah on October 15, 2005, 04:56:44 PM
Quote from: Bobber
My neighbours went to the US recently, just for a holiday. It took them almost four hours to pass the customs and they told me everybody who wants to get into the country is regarded as potentially dangerous and/or criminal. To get out however was very easy: the sooner you got out, the better. No, they're not planning another holiday in the US...


I'm sorry this happened to you...However it makes me feel better that it did... We need to be damn careful....9-11 should have NEVER happened.... Maybe it wouldn't have if they had been that strict then.

Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: JonnyMoondog on October 15, 2005, 05:07:01 PM
they were strict then I flew into the US pre-911 and the security was only slightly less different to now
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: el sid on October 15, 2005, 06:19:27 PM
Well I thought this would be a good point to debat. Sadly, like so many boards these days the  thread got lost with personal insults, shame really. Everyone has their own opinions, but to post pictures of dog crap and call some one a fashist is just not adult enough for me and not worth the bother.
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Bobber on October 15, 2005, 06:35:27 PM
Just ignore them. Well, try to.
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Ssarah on October 16, 2005, 06:07:05 AM
it is hard to debate when people bash others for their opinion. I agree.

Well... security should be increased even more then I suppose.

However, I've flown before and after 9-11 and now theres much more security and yes...it is more of a wait... but I don't mind it at all. I'd rather our country be safe.
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: Bobber on October 16, 2005, 10:26:18 AM
The thing is they wanted to get in as tourists, not as potential criminals. But I understand your point of view.
Title: Re: Illegal immigrants should be deported.
Post by: pc31 on December 20, 2005, 11:35:19 AM
Quote from: el_sid
Well I thought this would be a good point to debat. Sadly, like so many boards these days the