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Title: Genesis Reunion
Post by: GreenApple on November 07, 2006, 05:12:04 PM
FROM YAHOO UK & IRELAND MUSIC:

Genesis announce their reunion tour
(Tuesday November 07, 2006 02:51 PM)

Rock band Genesis have announced plans for their reunion tour after a break of 15 years.

Phil Collins, Mike Rutherford and Tony Banks are reforming for a series of money-spinning stadium gigs next summer.

And while other bands get back together because they need the money, Collins insisted Genesis have no such motive.

"I think we are all loaded enough not to worry about where the next million or two is coming from," the star told a press conference in London.

Collins - who has an estimated fortune of £300 million but is in the process of a costly divorce from third wife Orianne - said he had simply missed his former bandmates.

"I just felt now was the right time to have a go at it," the 55-year-old explained.

"I left the band and I did some things on my own, and the guys carried on. I used to listen to odd bits and pieces at home and I missed the camaraderie a bit.

"We all get on, we've seen each other many times since I left, and we would bring it up every time we sat down together. Sometimes we talked ourselves out of it and finally we decided this was as good a time as any to do something."

The 20-date tour will kick off in Finland on June 11 and end with a free gig in front of the Colosseum in Rome on July 14.

There will be two British dates: Twickenham Stadium in London on July 7 and Old Trafford in Manchester on July 8. A series of US dates will follow.
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: Bobber on November 07, 2006, 06:51:34 PM
In May they were talking about it. With Peter Gabriel...
Here: http://www.dmbeatles.com/forums/b-othermusic/m-1149078282/
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: RICKENBACKER325 on November 08, 2006, 11:27:33 PM
This would be a most welcome re-union tour, instead of the same old tired a$$ Rolling Stones show ::)
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: tkitna on November 09, 2006, 12:44:55 AM
Without Gabriel and Hackett,,,i'm not interested.
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: Sondra on November 09, 2006, 03:59:36 AM
I never got why people liked Genesis in the first place. I mean Phil Collins' Genesis. For some reason I'm not familiar with Gabriel's Genesis. It's mostly Phil Collins I don't get. I hate him. I hate his voice, his songs, his hair. I just can't take him!! Plus I thought most of their music with him was very light rockish and dull. But what do I know.
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: RICKENBACKER325 on November 09, 2006, 04:05:17 AM
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I never got why people liked Genesis in the first place. I mean Phil Collins' Genesis. For some reason I'm not familiar with Gabriel's Genesis. It's mostly Phil Collins I don't get. I hate him. I hate his voice, his songs, his hair. I just can't take him!! Plus I thought most of their music with him was very light rockish and dull. But what do I know.

C'mon Sandra tell us how you really feel.... :D
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: Sondra on November 09, 2006, 04:13:15 AM
 ;D

I can't help it. The man annoys me like you wouldn't believe. The only other musician that comes close to that kind of annoyance is Chrissy Hynde. When I hear either of them sing I want to slash my wrists or something. Just to end the pain.
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: BlueMeanie on November 09, 2006, 08:26:12 PM
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In May they were talking about it. With Peter Gabriel...
Here: [url]http://www.dmbeatles.com/forums/b-othermusic/m-1149078282/[/url]


Apparently Gabriel wants to concentrate on his new solo material.

Whatever people say about Genesis, they have made some fine records in the past. Especially in the post Gabriel period. 'And Then There Were Three' is a terrific album, full of melodic, well crafted songs. And Mama is a classic.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not the world's biggest Genesis fan, but I just think that - maybe because of Phil Collins - they tend to generate a bad reaction from people.

BTW, for anyone dissing Phil Collins, whether you like his music or not, he's a terrific drummer.
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: GreenApple on November 09, 2006, 09:07:40 PM
The best 'Collins' Genesis album is And Then There Were Three... Some very nice songs on that. Good melodies. Including Follow You, Follow Me. Probably their best effort.
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: GreenApple on November 09, 2006, 10:55:21 PM
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;D

I can't help it. The man annoys me like you wouldn't believe. The only other musician that comes close to that kind of annoyance is Chrissy Hynde. When I hear either of them sing I want to slash my wrists or something. Just to end the pain.

The two Oasis guys like knocking Phil Collins.
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: BlueMeanie on November 09, 2006, 11:00:39 PM
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The two Oasis guys like knocking Phil Collins.

The Gallaghers like to knock everyone.
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: tkitna on November 10, 2006, 12:51:18 AM
A Trick Of The Tail is easily Genesis's best album without Gabriel. I always thought 'And Then There Were Three' was one of their least favorites for me. Oh well, nothing compares to Foxtrot, Selling England By The Pound, and The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway anyways.
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: GreenApple on November 10, 2006, 11:37:40 AM
When Yes reunite it doesn't make the news. But Genesis do. Less commercial, and that's why. Isn't Yes a better band?
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: Kevin on November 10, 2006, 12:26:24 PM
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When Yes reunite it doesn't make the news. But Genesis do. Less commercial, and that's why. Isn't Yes a better band?

Aren't Yes now regarded as a bit silly? All about the record covers and hippy psychobabble? Prog at its worst? They certainly don't occupy a position in British rocklore like Genesis do. I think most people, even musicheads, would struggle to name a memorable Yes song. They didn't have the tunes.
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: GreenApple on November 10, 2006, 01:56:10 PM
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Aren't Yes now regarded as a bit silly? All about the record covers and hippy psychobabble? Prog at its worst? They certainly don't occupy a position in British rocklore like Genesis do. I think most people, even musicheads, would struggle to name a memorable Yes song. They didn't have the tunes.

You are largely right. You can thank Anderson for the lyrical self-satisfaction. He doesn't even 'tweak' his words to make them more meaningful. But still he says live that there is something, not sure what it is, all around us, it must be love. Or words to that effect. He wants to say something spiritual, but can't even make it concise except for a handful of songs.

But Wondrous Stories is memorable and was a top ten hit in the UK. And Owner Of A Lonely Heart is very memorable. Far better musicians than Genesis also. Wakeman and Howe are top musicians. White and Bruford are top drummers. Rabin is a good guitarist. Some of Yes's albums have fantastic production.
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: BlueMeanie on November 10, 2006, 07:54:44 PM
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Aren't Yes now regarded as a bit silly? All about the record covers and hippy psychobabble? Prog at its worst? They certainly don't occupy a position in British rocklore like Genesis do. I think most people, even musicheads, would struggle to name a memorable Yes song. They didn't have the tunes.

Yes are far more talented musicians. Bruford is one of the greats. Chris Squire is a fantastic bass player. They suffer more through being classed as outdated. Too many 20 minute songs filled with Andersons 'spiritual' lyrics. But fabulous musicianship. Fragile is one of my favourite albums still. And nothing longer than 9 minutes!!!
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: Kevin on November 11, 2006, 10:36:49 AM
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Yes are far more talented musicians. Bruford is one of the greats. Chris Squire is a fantastic bass player. They suffer more through being classed as outdated. Too many 20 minute songs filled with Andersons 'spiritual' lyrics. But fabulous musicianship. Fragile is one of my favourite albums still. And nothing longer than 9 minutes!!!

Hello Bluemeanie. You're undoubtedly right about the superior musicianship thing, but that's one of the problems I have with prog. So often its all about how well they can play their instruments and they forgot about needing good tunes.
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: GreenApple on November 11, 2006, 05:49:53 PM
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Hello Bluemeanie. You're undoubtedly right about the superior musicianship thing, but that's one of the problems I have with prog. So often its all about how well they can play their instruments and they forgot about needing good tunes.

I'm with you on that point.
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: BlueMeanie on November 12, 2006, 08:01:34 AM
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Hello Bluemeanie. You're undoubtedly right about the superior musicianship thing, but that's one of the problems I have with prog. So often its all about how well they can play their instruments and they forgot about needing good tunes.

You're right on that score. My favourite prog has always been when thay play the shorter numbers.

Hence, favourite Yes album: Fragile
Least favourite Yes album: Tales From Topographic Oceans

Or Tales of Toby's GoCart, as Rick Wakeman called it.
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: Wayne L. on November 13, 2006, 01:05:36 PM
I think Genesis is one of the great legendary rock bands & Phil Collins is a great drummer & vocalist, which goes without saying.  I don't care one way or the other about this reunion for some reason even though it will be a huge sellout.  
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: tkitna on November 14, 2006, 12:54:42 AM
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Aren't Yes now regarded as a bit silly? All about the record covers and hippy psychobabble? Prog at its worst? They certainly don't occupy a position in British rocklore like Genesis do. I think most people, even musicheads, would struggle to name a memorable Yes song. They didn't have the tunes.


Damn Kev, i'm going to have to disagree with you here on this one (although a day late and a dollar short). 'Roundabout', 'Owner Of A Lonely Heart', 'Yours Is No Disgrace', 'I've Seen All Good People', 'Starship Trooper', 'Long Distance Runaround', 'Leave It', 'Rhtyhm Of Love' 'Love Will Find A Way', etc,,,are all well known tunes (i'm probably forgetting some others).

I would take YES over Genesis anyday, but I realize its personal opinion. The one problem I have with Genesis is that after Gabriel left, they turned into a silly pop band. Their early albums were incredible and now we have stuff like 'Invisible Touch'. Lord help us.
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: BlueMeanie on November 14, 2006, 02:26:04 PM
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I would take YES over Genesis anyday, but I realize its personal opinion. The one problem I have with Genesis is that after Gabriel left, they turned into a silly pop band. Their early albums were incredible and now we have stuff like 'Invisible Touch'. Lord help us.

Not quite true. Trick Of The Tail and Wind & Wuthering were definately not pop. After that they tended to release the more obviously poppy numbers as singles, but there was still some good stuff on the albums.

Actually, even some of the singles weren't that poppy: Mama, Keep It Dark, Tonight Tonight Tonight, I Can't Dance, for example.

Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: Joost on November 14, 2006, 07:00:22 PM
Genesis (and Cat Stevens and Black Sabbath) recorded some of their albums in Hilvarenbeek, which is ten minutes from where I live... I only discovered that a couple of months ago and it was quite a surprise, since Hilvarenbeek is pretty much the last town on earth where you'd ever expect a rock star to go to.
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: on November 14, 2006, 07:09:52 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: BlueMeanie on November 14, 2006, 07:28:33 PM
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Genesis (and Cat Stevens and Black Sabbath) recorded some of their albums in Hilvarenbeek, which is ten minutes from where I live... I only discovered that a couple of months ago and it was quite a surprise, since Hilvarenbeek is pretty much the last town on earth where you'd ever expect a rock star to go to.

Where is it?
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: GreenApple on November 14, 2006, 08:04:09 PM
Some bands recorded at Rockwood Studios here in South Wales (including Rush) not so far from me.
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: Joost on November 14, 2006, 08:35:11 PM
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Where is it?

Hilvarenbeek is a small town near Tilburg, in the south of the Netherlands.
Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: tkitna on November 15, 2006, 12:23:24 AM
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Actually, even some of the singles weren't that poppy: Mama, Keep It Dark, Tonight Tonight Tonight, I Can't Dance, for example.


Tonight, Tonight, Tonight and I Cant Dance are about as pop as pop gets, but I agree with you on the other counts.

Title: Re: Genesis Reunion
Post by: BlueMeanie on November 15, 2006, 07:39:10 PM
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Tonight, Tonight, Tonight and I Cant Dance are about as pop as pop gets, but I agree with you on the other counts.


They don't sound very 'pop' to me. But I guess we'll have to agree to dissagree on this one :)