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Title: The New President of the USA?
Post by: Bobber on February 29, 2012, 09:05:38 AM
Of course, you Americans can elect whoever you want to elect.

But the man who's saying this:

In the Netherlands, people wear different bracelets if they are elderly. And the bracelet is: ‘Do not euthanize me.’ Because they have voluntary euthanasia in the Netherlands, but half of the people who are euthanized — ten percent of all deaths in the Netherlands — half of those people are enthanized involuntarily at hospitals because they are older and sick.

should not be taken serious by anybody. American or not. I wish you all good luck and a lot of wisdom.  2ch
Title: Re: The New President of the USA?
Post by: Joost on February 29, 2012, 09:24:48 AM
Santorum said that, right? The Dutch government should sue the guy for slander, if that's possible.
Title: Re: The New President of the USA?
Post by: Bobber on February 29, 2012, 02:16:00 PM
I really feel sorry for America. A man with such a narrow minded vision can play a big role in American politics. Scary.
Title: Re: The New President of the USA?
Post by: In My Life on February 29, 2012, 06:15:07 PM
Santorum said that, right? The Dutch government should sue the guy for slander, if that's possible.

Yeah, that's who it was. I'm not very politically savvy but I do know that I wouldn't vote for him if he were running for street sweeper.
Title: Re: The New President of the USA?
Post by: Toejam on February 29, 2012, 10:45:06 PM
I've only seen a breif clip of him once and that was last night or the night before. He called Obama a snob. I thought it was quite funny.
Title: Re: The New President of the USA?
Post by: Joost on March 01, 2012, 07:49:48 AM
I really feel sorry for America. A man with such a narrow minded vision can play a big role in American politics. Scary.


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 2ch
Title: Re: The New President of the USA?
Post by: Bobber on March 01, 2012, 10:59:02 AM

 2ch

Oh absolutely. But he won't ever be the president of the USA.
Title: Re: The New President of the USA?
Post by: Normandie on March 06, 2012, 01:02:42 PM

<shrug> I like Rick Santorum. And he certainly wouldn't be the first politician to get his facts wrong, deliberately or no.

That said, I really don't see ANY of the potential Republican candidates beating Obama.
Title: Re: The New President of the USA?
Post by: Joost on March 06, 2012, 01:56:38 PM
<shrug> I like Rick Santorum. And he certainly wouldn't be the first politician to get his facts wrong, deliberately or no.
Regardless if it was a mistake or a lie, I personally think that this is pretty serious. If you want to be president, you can't publicly make such outrageous claims about allied nations without being absolutely 100% sure. Being Dutch myself, I'm offended by the fact that a serious presidential candidate tries to make his country believe that we basically execute old people against their will.

That said, I really don't see ANY of the potential Republican candidates beating Obama.
I sure hope none of them will.
Title: Re: The New President of the USA?
Post by: In My Life on March 06, 2012, 08:16:28 PM
I wish I had a better grasp on politics. I mean, there's so much conflicting information flying around that I never really feel confident that I have the real story. We learned about the democratic system in school but I don't remember learning how to make an informed decision. Or maybe I was absent that day.  :)
Title: Re: The New President of the USA?
Post by: Klang on March 06, 2012, 08:26:13 PM
I wish I had a better grasp on politics. I mean, there's so much conflicting information flying around that I never really feel confident that I have the real story. We learned about the democratic system in school but I don't remember learning how to make an informed decision. Or maybe I was absent that day.  :)

That's pretty much the way they want it.

 :(

Title: Re: The New President of the USA?
Post by: Normandie on March 07, 2012, 01:04:03 AM
 
You are right, Joost; someone aspiring to be President has an obligation to be 100% sure of his or her facts before spouting off on a particular topic.

There seems to be a bit of a hysterical (at least, it seems hysterical to me) tone over here in the States about euthanasia in Dutch countries (did I phrase that properly?); at least, I seem to be seeing a lot of news articles about it lately, usually with an alarmist tone.

I agree with you, Kelley; there's so much information flying around that it is hard to separate the wheat from the chaff.   ;)


Title: Re: The New President of the USA?
Post by: Joost on March 07, 2012, 07:51:21 AM
You are right, Joost; someone aspiring to be President has an obligation to be 100% sure of his or her facts before spouting off on a particular topic.

There seems to be a bit of a hysterical (at least, it seems hysterical to me) tone over here in the States about euthanasia in Dutch countries (did I phrase that properly?); at least, I seem to be seeing a lot of news articles about it lately, usually with an alarmist tone.

For as far as I know there's just one Dutch country. ;)

I've noticed several times that conservative American politicians and media figures try to use The Netherlands as an example of the type of godless hellhole that America will turn into if they don't keep up the old christian values. We might be quite a bit more liberal about things like euthanasia, abortion, same sex marriage, soft drug use and prostitution than most countries, but believe me: we do have strics laws and regulations about all of these things, and our crime rates and life expectancy actually look quite a bit better than America's.
Title: Re: The New President of the USA?
Post by: Bobber on April 11, 2012, 02:28:27 PM
Luckily he euthanized his own campaign last night.
Title: Re: The New President of the USA?
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 12, 2012, 01:57:40 AM
Luckily he euthanized his own campaign last night.

;)