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 51 
 on: August 19, 2014, 11:02:21 PM 
Started by pc31 - Last post by nimrod
Cheers mate. Bloody 56! How did that happen.
Some news - wife is pregnant, our first kid,  little girl due November. Expecting that to be a game changer. But its only a baby. DONT PANIC!

Your life will never be the same ever again  ha2ha

(the above is very true btw)

Congrats Kevin, happy birthday also  ;)

 52 
 on: August 19, 2014, 10:55:08 PM 
Started by Bobber - Last post by nimrod
Mr M.

Wasn't Goffin and King an acknowledged influence on Lennon and McCartney. I could be wrong on the time frame of their success but they along with Joe Meak and the early US girl groups  were quality acts.

There were many influences, one great source to study them is 'Tune In' of course

I tend to agree with Mr M on that 60/62 period, Im old enough (61) to remember when the Beatles first appeared and I remember the UK charts before them, memories of things like;
 
POETRY IN MOTION
JOHNNY TILLOTSON

PORTRAIT OF MY LOVE
MATT MONRO

PEPE
RUSS CONWAY

GINCHY
BERT WEEDON

RUBBER BALL
BOBBY VEE

A SCOTTISH SOLDIER (GREEN HILLS OF TYROL)
ANDY STEWART

Elvis was in his glamour puss period with songs like 'Are You Lonesome Tonight', and there was George Martins comedy records oh and Mrs Mills of course........it was pretty sad

There was of course The Everlys and The Shirelles and Kevin has a point about the influence of The Everlys on John & Paul with the harmonies, I dont think they wanted the look of the Everly's I think they wouldve been happy to stay in the leather suits......... but I dont know, when I first heard The Beatles it was like a new dawn, suddenly everybody's ears pricked up, they sounded fresh, the had a lot more beat than The Everly's and were just so much more exciting

They spawned countless new musicians who saw them and wanted to copy them

 53 
 on: August 19, 2014, 10:42:14 PM 
Started by Bobber - Last post by Hello Goodbye
Neither Billy Fury (puzzlingly overrated IMO) nor The Shadows (at times mocked by The Beatles with those cheesy synchronised dance steps) ever provided a template for the fabs. The whole point was that they refused to copy anyone


Yeah, The Shadows were dance stepping in 1969...


THE SHADOWS - Apache (1969)





But in 1960 they were so cool, ciggie and all...


The Shadows - Apache (1960)



...a definite influence on The Beatles...



 54 
 on: August 19, 2014, 10:24:34 PM 
Started by Bobber - Last post by Pothos
Mr M.

Wasn't Goffin and King an acknowledged influence on Lennon and McCartney. I could be wrong on the time frame of their success but they along with Joe Meak and the early US girl groups  were quality acts.


 55 
 on: August 19, 2014, 10:20:17 PM 
Started by nimrod - Last post by ibanez_ax

 56 
 on: August 19, 2014, 10:08:02 PM 
Started by Bobber - Last post by Mr Mustard
Hmmmm. I think there is a clear link with acts like Buddy Holly and Everley Brothers (in look and sound) to The Beatles.
I cannot accept that they appeared from a vacuum, or that the supposedly awful charts of the early sixties actually reflects the real music scene of the day. (anymore than you can claim same conditions for punk in the mid seventies (awful charts, the Sex Pistols apparently - but not really- arriving out of the blue.)
Music trends tend to bubble underground for a good few years before they are reflected by charts, all these trends wait for is that one band that with the right image and sound to be the big break through act ( cue Elvis, The Beatles, The Sex Pistols, Nirvanna.....) None of them invented anything, but became the acts the breakthrough acts of heir day.

For sure The Beatles never appeared from a vacuum and nobody entirely invented anything from scratch. Buddy Holly and The Everly Brothers were indeed definite influences....from the 1950s. My point was that I feel mainstream (i.e. widely recognised/played/purchased) music took a nosedive around 1960 (apart from the emergence of Orbison and Those Everly boys who went from strength to strength). Of course there were some good records about in that era ("Apache", "Shakin' All Over") but I don't believe the general public or even the average teenager were tapped into the waking giant that is always, as you rightly say, "bubbling under" during outwardly stale periods like '60-'62.

 57 
 on: August 19, 2014, 10:05:23 PM 
Started by nimrod - Last post by Hello Goodbye
Superstar


Jesus Christ Superstar - Superstar

 58 
 on: August 19, 2014, 09:40:14 PM 
Started by Wayne L. - Last post by Normandie
Aww...you're moving toward that magical stage of parenthood where you can start to take it a tiny bit easier. I am sure she'll relish every opportunity to flap her new wings.

Yes, definitely easier on me errand wise, but a whole new area to worry about. I swear I spot a new gray hair every day, LOL.

 59 
 on: August 19, 2014, 09:31:49 PM 
Started by Hombre_de_ningun_lugar - Last post by Normandie
The Who - Bell Boy


I always felt that Sea and Sand from Quadrophenia was a drunken song. And if I'm not mistaken, it corresponds to the last part of the text in the album, where Jimmy is drinking.

I always felt like this song told the story of my teenagerhood.  :'(

To children of alcoholics everywhere:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-f3LnfdSC0

 60 
 on: August 19, 2014, 08:38:57 PM 
Started by Bobber - Last post by Kevin
Hmmmm. I think there is a clear link with acts like Buddy Holly and Everley Brothers (in look and sound) to The Beatles.
I cannot accept that they appeared from a vacuum, or that the supposedly awful charts of the early sixties actually reflects the real music scene of the day. (anymore than you can claim same conditions for punk in the mid seventies (awful charts, the Sex Pistols apparently - but not really- arriving out of the blue.)
Music trends tend to bubble underground for a good few years before they are reflected by charts, all these trends wait for is that one band that with the right image and sound to be the big break through act ( cue Elvis, The Beatles, The Sex Pistols, Nirvanna.....) None of them invented anything, but became the acts the breakthrough acts of heir day.

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