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Thanks for the news Joost.

I'd have loved to see the tour but I'm going to pass on the live album etc.

Somehow the Beach Boys always maka a mess of live albums. (Except for Party! -  but how live was that?)

'Party' was recorded in the studio, the "party" sounds were overdubbed afterwards.

I don't agree with you though that all their live albums are a mess. 'Concert' was indeed bad: partially live, partially recorded in the studio with artificial crowd noises, and a lot of cover songs that were inferior to their own material. But 'Live in London' and 'In Concert'  are really excellent. They sound great, they didn't mess with the recordings afterwards and the final albums are cool mixes of hits and fan favorites. Nothing wrong with those two albums. And 'Live at Knebworth' is not that bad either, is it?

Somehow the Beach Boys always maka a mess of live albums.

How about 'In Concert' from 1973, zipp?

Some Beach Boys news:

After the 50th Anniversary Tour, Mike Love & Bruce Johnston returned to touring with their own version of The Beach Boys, as everyone who cares will know by now. But an interesting development is that Al Jardine & David Marks have now joined Brian Wilson and his band. They'll be playing a few US dates this Summer. Check brianwilson.com for details.

And that ought to be a hard choice for the fans. 

The live double cd 'Live: the 50th Anniversary Tour' was released this week. It's got 41 songs, including most of the greatest hits but also a few more obscure fan favorites such as 'Marcella', 'Add Some Music to Your Day' and 'All This is That'. Reactions from Beach Boys fans have been overwhelmingly negative because the recordings sound very fake. Many of the vocals have been very obviously autotuned (some so heavily that they just sound robotic) and some people even believe that vocals from the original albums have been mixed in here and there.

It's kinda painful to realize that some people in the BBs camp still care about things like commercial appeal or new production techniques. Every time I read something like this I automatically think of 80's or 90's Beach Boys and how dark those times were for the band.

The career spanning 6 CD box set 'Made in California', has been announced for August 27. The tracklisting has not yet been released. It's likely going to be something of a revised version of 1993's 'Good Vibrations' box set (with the hits, important album tracks, alternate versions and unreleased songs), but with "new" rarities.

Now this is the real deal. Already onto it.

Hmm, you're right, I guess. It was a poor choice of words - what I meant was something closer to "silly".

"She screamed till her face got so red, then she fell on the floor/And I covered her up and then thought I'd go look through her drawer."

I guess that's a lot like:

And when I awoke I was alone
This bird had flown
So I lit a fire
Isn't it good Norwegian wood?

Good poetry.

Thanks for the news Joost.

I'd have loved to see the tour but I'm going to pass on the live album etc.

Somehow the Beach Boys always maka a mess of live albums. (Except for Party! -  but how live was that?)

I don't think the lyrics are absurd, Ovi.  That was Dylan's way of saying "She didn't hear a word I said."

Hmm, you're right, I guess. It was a poor choice of words - what I meant was something closer to "silly".

"She screamed till her face got so red, then she fell on the floor/And I covered her up and then thought I'd go look through her drawer."

I suppose that the "crutch" was his music, as if he was saying "I never copied your music, now don't copy mine." But that's just a free interpretation. I just know that John didn't like it.

That's a well-known, long-standing interpretation of the final line in 4th Time Around.  If John didn't like those lyrics, he must have felt guilty about copying Dylan's style of writing.

Bob Dylan copied other songwriters' styles  Here's one example...


Talkin' Dust Bowl Blues

Woody Guthrie - Talkin' Dust Bowl Blues.AVI

Woody Guthrie



Talkin' World War III Blues

early dylan

'4th Time Around' is just so hilariously absurd.

"When she said "don't waste your words, they're just lies", I cried she was deaf."

I don't think the lyrics are absurd, Ovi.  That was Dylan's way of saying "She didn't hear a word I said."

Some Beach Boys news:

After the 50th Anniversary Tour, Mike Love & Bruce Johnston returned to touring with their own version of The Beach Boys, as everyone who cares will know by now. But an interesting development is that Al Jardine & David Marks have now joined Brian Wilson and his band. They'll be playing a few US dates this Summer. Check brianwilson.com for details.

The live double cd 'Live: the 50th Anniversary Tour' was released this week. It's got 41 songs, including most of the greatest hits but also a few more obscure fan favorites such as 'Marcella', 'Add Some Music to Your Day' and 'All This is That'. Reactions from Beach Boys fans have been overwhelmingly negative because the recordings sound very fake. Many of the vocals have been very obviously autotuned (some so heavily that they just sound robotic) and some people even believe that vocals from the original albums have been mixed in here and there.

The career spanning 6 CD box set 'Made in California', has been announced for August 27. The tracklisting has not yet been released. It's likely going to be something of a revised version of 1993's 'Good Vibrations' box set (with the hits, important album tracks, alternate versions and unreleased songs), but with "new" rarities.

'4th Time Around' is just so hilariously absurd.

"When she said "don't waste your words, they're just lies", I cried she was deaf."