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 81 
 on: August 27, 2015, 12:37:09 PM 
Started by In My Life - Last post by Normandie


I just got another reminder of how far behind on work I am, so I haven't yet been able to check out my books in regard to the "mystery ship," but you might find this article interesting, Todd. It's actually a review of a book written by Senan Molony in which he states it was likely the Mount Temple. If you follow any of the links given in the article, or even Google "Titanic mystery ship," you'll get tons of results.

http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/titanic-scandal-by-senan-molony-review.html

Sorry I couldn't be of more specific help.

 82 
 on: August 27, 2015, 06:53:55 AM 
Started by tkitna - Last post by Bobber
You know, the album really may not be that bad, but my dire hate for country music killed it before it even started.

I don't know. A last listen yesterday before it really returns to the attic. Without You and $15 Draw are the only two songs worth a listen. The rest all sounds the same. No surprises. Ringo sounds tired overall, or should I say 'uninterested'. Coochy Coochy is a nice bonus track and works well. From what I've read, I know that Ringo worked with some fine musicians on this album, an The Jordanairs (sp?) were there. Was this really the best they could do?

 83 
 on: August 27, 2015, 02:52:49 AM 
Started by In My Life - Last post by Normandie
Didn't Lord and other crew members of the Californian testify they saw another ship though?  To be truthful though, they could have been making up the story just to cover their butts for being negligent.

I think you are right, Todd, and I'm not sure whether anybody else reported seeing another ship. I am racing to meet a deadline right now but will look through my books tomorrow and see if I can find an answer. I definitely remember reading about it, it just seems like that theory petered out shortly after the sinking.

 84 
 on: August 27, 2015, 01:01:30 AM 
Started by In My Life - Last post by tkitna
I wasn't sure if you were joking or serious, Barry, but in my (decidedly non-expert) opinion, I not sure there ever was a mystery ship. I can't cite any quotes from books or researchers specifically, but from what I've read that notion has been generally dismissed because of a lack of proof. There were so many conflicting accounts of that night that blatantly contradicted each other, though. I just finished a book (George Behe again) that included every piece of correspondence sent from the ship in the day or so before sailing, during the short voyage, and afterward (both on board the Carpathia and from NYC). I was shocked to notice how so many survivors described vastly different accounts of the night's events.

Didn't Lord and other crew members of the Californian testify they saw another ship though?  To be truthful though, they could have been making up the story just to cover their butts for being negligent.

 85 
 on: August 26, 2015, 02:27:59 PM 
Started by tkitna - Last post by tkitna
You know, the album really may not be that bad, but my dire hate for country music killed it before it even started.

 86 
 on: August 26, 2015, 02:01:18 PM 
Started by Dmitry - Last post by Dmitry
I don't know. I would be happier travelling somewhere else to be honest. Everyone who is against Putin gets prisoned. It looks like a dictature now.

There is a lot of people here from all over the World. Recently I was in the center and on the Red Square. I saw them, I heard them. You know, they didn't look unhappy ;D I think they just don't care about Putin, they came here to spend a good time.
As you can feel unhappy because of Putin I myself in the same manner could feel myself unhappy because of Obama (US has most prisoners per 100 thousand inhabitants, people shoot each other, US makes war in many countries...)
So forget Putin and travel to Russia, my friend, and maybe you love it. Just throw away politics.

 87 
 on: August 26, 2015, 08:39:59 AM 
Started by tkitna - Last post by Bobber
Loose and fluent. Mmm. Alright. That looks like a pretty good review in those days.

 88 
 on: August 26, 2015, 08:33:59 AM 
Started by Dmitry - Last post by Bobber
By the way it is a good chance for you, my dear foreign friends, to visit Moscow. It is much cheaper now. ;D

I don't know. I would be happier travelling somewhere else to be honest. Everyone who is against Putin gets prisoned. It looks like a dictature now.

 89 
 on: August 26, 2015, 02:14:38 AM 
Started by In My Life - Last post by Hello Goodbye
I wasn't sure if you were joking or serious, Barry, but in my (decidedly non-expert) opinion, I not sure there ever was a mystery ship. I can't cite any quotes from books or researchers specifically, but from what I've read that notion has been generally dismissed because of a lack of proof. There were so many conflicting accounts of that night that blatantly contradicted each other, though. I just finished a book (George Behe again) that included every piece of correspondence sent from the ship in the day or so before sailing, during the short voyage, and afterward (both on board the Carpathia and from NYC). I was shocked to notice how so many survivors described vastly different accounts of the night's events.

I was serious, Kathleen.  I just tossed the Blues Image song in because it had those allegorical lyrics.

Those survivors out at sea on a dark, moonless night might have mistaken a bright star or planet close to the horizon for a ship.  Shock and fear only serve to heighten visual stimuli.

I read Walter Lord's book when I was in sixth grade.  Yes, it was an easy read and I remember reading it cover-to-cover in one sitting and then writing a book report.  I was impressed with the heroism and gallantry exhibited by some of the passengers and crew.  I was very na├»ve and impressionable at age eleven.  As I got older I grew to recognize the carelessness and stupidity of Captain Edward John Smith and Joseph Bruce Ismay.

 90 
 on: August 26, 2015, 01:19:18 AM 
Started by nimrod - Last post by Hello Goodbye

I have to admit that Harry Nilsson's version is what comes to mind first for me. It's the one I would vote most likely to make me sob. LOL And Paul McCartney voted it "the killer song of all time." Not sure if he was referring to a particular version when he said that but in general it really is a fantastic song.



This is the way I first heard Without You...



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