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Title: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on February 19, 2005, 08:12:27 PM
There has been a great deal of debate surrounding just who sang the "aaaaaahhs" after Paul's line "somebody spoke and I went into a dream" from A Day In The Life. Well, Mr Charlie has sent me some evidence which, I believe, finally reveals the truth... it's Paul!

Now you can judge for yourselves - I've uploaded the two clips!! Please let me know what you think.

http://www.geocities.com/the_end_gb/dmforum/day.html
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on February 19, 2005, 08:19:26 PM
Quality is not tops, but I WAS surprised that it seemed fairly OK. Clear and not muddy like I sort-of expected. (I would have said this regardless of how it turned out. In matters such as this, I try to be objective as poss. FYI, I have a good computer with harman/kardon speakers attached.)

However, it's still an aural judgement.

For what it's worth - it sounds like John to me.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on February 19, 2005, 08:22:05 PM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn
For what it's worth - it sounds like John to me.

Get some new speakers!!! ;D

For me , these uploads put it beyond any doubt that it's Paul.  
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on February 19, 2005, 08:27:05 PM
Aren't ears strange things!

I was prepared to eat humble pie on this, but when I heard the files, I knew it was John. That edge that is always present in the Lennon voice is clear to hear.

But thanks, of course to you and Charlie.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on February 19, 2005, 08:32:32 PM
Late addendum: I must say that to my ears it is also clear on the CD and vinyl (mono & stereo).

Even later: My 17 year old daughter has a good ear for voices and accents (she's a great mimic), but she is no particular fan of her Dad's musical heroes. However, she thinks (based on the CD)

(a) John's voice is clear and dominant
(b) There may be another distinct voice there: she's not sure.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Soft_Guitar60 on February 19, 2005, 09:04:27 PM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn
For what it's worth - it sounds like John to me.

I agree...but if you compare "A Day in the Life" with the beginning of "Lovely Rita"...still strange though.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 19, 2005, 09:05:43 PM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn
Quality is not tops, but I WAS surprised that it seemed fairly OK. Clear and not muddy like I sort-of expected. (I would have said this regardless of how it turned out. In matters such as this, I try to be objective as poss. FYI, I have a good computer with harman/kardon speakers attached.)

However, it's still an aural judgement.

For what it's worth - it sounds like John to me.

Of COURSE it does.  It's worth nothing, Rotman.

Because I don't believe you.  Only a congenital idiot such as yourself would not hear that it is Paul.  Therefore you lie.  But then, what's new?  Aw....you're going to be disappointed that I don't have three coronaries because a liar can't hear or won't admit to the truth.

Whether you bought it or not is of no further concern to me, you were as predictable as I figured.  The others are free to listen and use their ears (were your headphones actually plugged into your ass? Yeah, that would figure too.)

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 19, 2005, 09:08:11 PM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn
Aren't ears strange things!

I was prepared to eat humble pie on this, but when I heard the files, I knew it was John. That edge that is always present in the Lennon voice is clear to hear.

But thanks, of course to you and Charlie.

You're welcome.  You're also severely lacking in any aural facutlies whatsoever.  You were never prepared to eat humble pie (how refreshing THAT might have been) and there was never any danger of you doing so.  As early as yesterday you were already preparing your escape hatch should I actually prove you wrong (which I did).

It is clearly NOT Lennon, therefore I think you should hop along to a doctor.


It is NOT a matter of it being whomever you choose to hear.  It was either John or it wasn't.  It wasn't.

Ding.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 19, 2005, 09:10:21 PM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn
Late addendum: I must say that to my ears it is also clear on the CD and vinyl (mono & stereo).

Even later: My 17 year old daughter has a good ear for voices and accents (she's a great mimic), but she is no particular fan of her Dad's musical heroes. However, she thinks (based on the CD)

(a) John's voice is clear and dominant
(b) There may be another distinct voice there: she's not sure.

Your daughters ears are entirely irrelevant.  

I didn't mention MY daughters ears because of the same thing.  She walked in the house as I was editing the clip, made some mention of what a dream boat he was , I asked who and she said Paul.  She has been a Beatle fan since she was 4, she's 22 now.

I'd stack my daughter's ears against yours any day but then your girl has had a bad enough life living with you.  She doesn't need further debasing.

Ta!

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 19, 2005, 09:11:39 PM
Quote from: Soft_Guitar60

I agree...but if you compare "A Day in the Life" with the beginning of "Lovely Rita"...still strange though.


Ydoll/Maria/Rotweiller is not looking nor reporting for truth.  This is, in their own words, a game.

And a severely badly played one on their part, as anyone can clearly hear it being Paul.

How big of an ass does one need to be to act like this?
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 19, 2005, 09:14:23 PM
Quote from: The_End
There has been a great deal of debate surrounding just who sang the "aaaaaahhs" after Paul's line "somebody spoke and I went into a dream" from A Day In The Life. Well, Mr Charlie has sent me some evidence which, I believe, finally reveals the truth... it's Paul!

Now you can judge for yourselves - I've uploaded the two clips!! Please let me know what you think.

[url]http://www.geocities.com/the_end_gb/dmforum/day.html[/url]


Thanks Alan.

I already knew Maria would pooh pooh it, which he/she/it fulfilled perfectly predicatably.  But I want junior to listen, and then tell me or anyone else they should get their hearing checked.

I await his reply.

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Soft_Guitar60 on February 19, 2005, 09:17:15 PM
Be done with it: you say it's McCartney, that's OK. We can argue until forever...nobody knows for sure except the people who made the record and produced it.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 19, 2005, 09:18:27 PM
Quote from: Soft_Guitar60
Be done with it: you say it's McCartney, that's OK. We can argue until forever...nobody knows for sure except the people who made the record and produced it.

Horsesh*t.

Listen to the clip before you speak.  THEN you can offer your opinion.

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on February 19, 2005, 09:26:52 PM
My daughter's ears are very relevant, because she has talent in that area. I notice your daughter (at 22) is still talking about people being dream boats: that seemed to be her qualification. Nuff said on that one.

The thing that interests me is that you can't bear to be disagreed with. You SAY you like discussion: but as soon as someone challenges, you go off half-cocked. It's an interesting phenomenon to watch. After I posted my opinion on whose voice it was, I went and did some work, and then returned to find you spraying your venom everywhere. Mate, you have a social dysfunction, that's for sure.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 19, 2005, 09:42:38 PM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn
My daughter's ears are very relevant, because she has talent in that area. I notice your daughter (at 22) is still talking about people being dream boats: that seemed to be her qualification. Nuff said on that one.


No, not "nuff said".  (What lame saying).

Your claims about your daughter are as irrlevant as any claims I would make about mine.  The point being she is -entirely- irrelevant.  Try standing on your own losing opinion.  Your saying she has talent is unqualifiable.  What IS qualifiable is the tape segment.

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The thing that interests me is that you can't bear to be disagreed with. You SAY you like discussion: but as soon as someone challenges, you go off half-cocked. It's an interesting phenomenon to watch. After I posted my opinion on whose voice it was, I went and did some work, and then returned to find you spraying your venom everywhere. Mate, you have a social dysfunction, that's for sure.

You are the social dysfunction.  This isn't about *discussion*, it never is with you.  It's about one upmanship.  Your opinion about who it is is as irrelevant as your daughter's, for you lie far too frequently to be believed.

Spraying everywhere?  My, must be lovely being a fiction writer.  I answered each one of your posts, of which there were 4 or 5.  You first, "mate".

As others hear it they will know, but of course thanks to you they will be afraid to admit to what they hear.  

If someone still hears John I don't mind, I myself just yesterday couldn't quite tell (due mainly to tv in the background and such).  It is uncannily John-sounding, but undeniably Paul.

As a lifelong Beatle fan I live for finding this stuff.  I just turned a bunch of people on to a new phenomenon and I take great pleasure in bringing something new and exciting to the group.  

You bring.....what, exactly, besides condescension?  Do you actually wank while you post?  Sure seems like it.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Soft_Guitar60 on February 19, 2005, 09:53:07 PM
I saw this in the anomalies:
3:02-3:12
Paul can be heard doing a faint falsetto "ooo" harmony above John
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on February 19, 2005, 09:58:30 PM
As others hear it they will know, but of course thanks to you they will be afraid to admit to what they hear. I don't follow that one ...

As a lifelong Beatle fan I live for finding this stuff. Charlie, I think you have lost perspective. You LIVE for finding this stuff? No wonder you get upset when it unravels! Wow!

I just turned a bunch of people on to a new phenomenon and I take great pleasure in bringing something new and exciting to the group. You might very well think that. Others might think that "new and exciting" are hardly the words for this!

Do you actually wank while you post?
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on February 19, 2005, 10:02:46 PM
Quote from: Soft_Guitar60
I saw this in the anomalies:
3:02-3:12
Paul can be heard doing a faint falsetto "ooo" harmony above John
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 19, 2005, 10:04:07 PM
Quote from: Soft_Guitar60
I saw this in the anomalies:
3:02-3:12
Paul can be heard doing a faint falsetto "ooo" harmony above John
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 12:07:48 AM
I had always assumed it was John. I thought it sounded like John. I never even thought about Paul until someone started the thread questioning it. Now, after listening to the clip I think it sounds like Paul.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on February 20, 2005, 12:27:09 AM
Did you know you can actually play both clips together if you're quick with your mouse button!! :)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: An Apple Beatle on February 20, 2005, 12:52:19 AM
This is all so funny...It still sounds like John to me. It's the nasalness in the arhhhh!!!

For what it's worth, I used to teach singing. Those clips seem to re-affirm my own inclinations that it is John. Check out the coarseness. It just don't sound like Paul. Paul would have not allowed any croak in his voice I'm sure. lol.

Still...I'm not confirming nothing....That would be tooo risky on this thread! lol ;)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 12:53:13 AM
Having listened to the two pieces, referencing Mark Lewisohn's book about the quadruple tracking of echo used for John's voice, and that John is hitting notes a little high for his particular register, Its John. I'm pretty certain that if 'Lucy' had been done with as much echo, as high as John's voice is, it would probably be reminiscent of Paul's as well. If you want to believe its Paul, so be it, no harm done. Easy mistake, but its clearly John's voice. Amen.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: An Apple Beatle on February 20, 2005, 01:05:27 AM
Second listen and clip 2 is more difficult to distinguish. Clip 1 does it for me though....Right near the end...That's the nasal bit for me. ;)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on February 20, 2005, 01:10:01 AM
This is so weird - I absolutely hear Paul 100% without a question of doubt. Obviously, that is what I[/b] hear though!

I thought these clips would dispel any doubts... wrong! LOL ;D

Perhaps this wiill help convince you...

1. On an earlier take Paul runs through his "woke up..." sequence (the take which ends with Paul flubbing his line and laughing before he says "sh*t") his vocal is drenched in tape delay (echo) ala Lennon. So it wasn't just a John thing to record in this style.  

2. Paul could mimic John's vocal style - he admitted that in many interviews around the time that Free As A Bird was released.

3. Listen to the first bit of the "aaahs" (the descending scale) - it is so distinctly Paul. Admittedly, the 2nd bit (the ascending scale) is more nasaly and Lennon-esque but if you listen closely you can hear it's Paul. I swear! ;D

Take another listen - I hope the debate continues.

(flower)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: An Apple Beatle on February 20, 2005, 01:12:31 AM
LOL.....Will do Al....This is a goody...What came first? The chicken or the egg? lol

I bet Macca started and John finished just to really wind us all up!  hehehehe! :)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on February 20, 2005, 01:22:45 AM
Quote from: An_Apple_Beatle
I bet Macca started and John finished just to really wind us all up!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: TurnMeOnDeadman on February 20, 2005, 01:25:24 AM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn
My daughter's ears are very relevant, because she has talent in that area. I notice your daughter (at 22) is still talking about people being dream boats: that seemed to be her qualification. Nuff said on that one.

The thing that interests me is that you can't bear to be disagreed with. You SAY you like discussion: but as soon as someone challenges, you go off half-cocked. It's an interesting phenomenon to watch. After I posted my opinion on whose voice it was, I went and did some work, and then returned to find you spraying your venom everywhere. Mate, you have a social dysfunction, that's for sure.


you obviosuly cant tell the difference of their voices in the first place...but Im not trying to argue, your a Ringo fan ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Harrison on February 20, 2005, 01:26:18 AM
I think it's Paul, regardless of Mr. Charlie's evidence.  When the "ahh"s first start it's a stronger, more in the throat kind of voice, like Paul's.  But when the horns start to drown it out it sounds more nasaly like John's.  Besides, why does this matter at all and why is it making people act like such jerks?  All Ydoll Gwyn did was state his opinion and then Mr. Charlie immediately takes offense and starts calling him an a** and disregarding Ydoll's statements as invalid while upholding his own, equally or more unsupportable statements as if it's common sense and everyone should agree with them.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: TurnMeOnDeadman on February 20, 2005, 01:27:16 AM
I swear to my life its Paul!! i wish they talked about it in the anthology!! that would be proof, I cant belive people still think its John, The second"aahh" sounds exactly like Paul
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Sondra on February 20, 2005, 01:27:39 AM
Well the right rear one sounds like it could be either of them and the left rear one sounds like Paul then turning into John. But Paul could do that stuff so it could very well be him the whole time. Although I do think Lennon is in there somewhere. I'M STILL SO CONFUSED!!!!!!!! But man do I enjoy listening to that part isolated! Why didn't anyone ever ask Paul this in an interview!! They've asked him just about everything else!!!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Harrison on February 20, 2005, 01:31:31 AM
I would laugh so hard if it turned out to be George.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on February 20, 2005, 01:33:22 AM
Quote from: Harrison
I think it's Paul, regardless of Mr. Charlie's evidence.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: TurnMeOnDeadman on February 20, 2005, 01:33:46 AM
I would fall out of my chair if it was Ringo!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 01:33:47 AM
Quote from: Harrison
I would laugh so hard if it turned out to be George.


LOL!

It almost could be!  :)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on February 20, 2005, 01:34:48 AM
Quote from: Harrison
I would laugh so hard if it turned out to be George.

LOL! Me too! ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Sondra on February 20, 2005, 01:36:21 AM
LOL!!! Now that would really be messing with our heads!!!


The more I listen, the right rear one sounds more like Paul starting as well. But I still think John's following him up. Just because it gets more nasal and high pitched. But again, Paul's voice was pretty versitile. Like the Lovely Rita thing someone mentioned. Similiar. Anyway, dontcha just LOVE this song?? It should be given some kinda special award for greatest song of all time or something. Cuz it is.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 01:36:31 AM
Quote from: An_Apple_Beatle
This is all so funny...It still sounds like John to me. It's the nasalness in the arhhhh!!!

For what it's worth, I used to teach singing. Those clips seem to re-affirm my own inclinations that it is John. Check out the coarseness. It just don't sound like Paul. Paul would have not allowed any croak in his voice I'm sure. lol.

Still...I'm not confirming nothing....That would be tooo risky on this thread! lol ;)

Thanks for your honesty.  I'm not going after anyone who says what they hear.  Only one person who's opinion is worthless anyway.

I -am- surprised that a voice professional would make that mistake but hey...we know Paul was able to double John's voice (and vice versa) for years.  Isolated it is cleaerer than the record but still...tantaliyzingly alike.

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: TurnMeOnDeadman on February 20, 2005, 01:37:24 AM
I wish it would turn out to be Ringo! haha
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 01:38:15 AM
Quote from: juniorsfarm
Having listened to the two pieces, referencing Mark Lewisohn's book about the quadruple tracking of echo used for John's voice, and that John is hitting notes a little high for his particular register, Its John. I'm pretty certain that if 'Lucy' had been done with as much echo, as high as John's voice is, it would probably be reminiscent of Paul's as well. If you want to believe its Paul, so be it, no harm done. Easy mistake, but its clearly John's voice. Amen.

Fair enough.  I think you're wrong of course, but the bit about Lucy IS a provacative mention worth noting.  Yes, he did sing in that register in Lucy.  Same as Paul did in Lovely Rita.

I appreciate your honest input.  I shan't bother you about it again.

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on February 20, 2005, 01:38:35 AM
I think this whole topic is one of the best we've had on this forum for ages! :)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 01:41:10 AM
Quote from: The_End
This is so weird - I absolutely hear Paul 100% without a question of doubt. Obviously, that is what I[/b] hear though!

I thought these clips would dispel any doubts... wrong! LOL ;D

Perhaps this wiill help convince you...

1. On an earlier take Paul runs through his "woke up..." sequence (the take which ends with Paul flubbing his line and laughing before he says "sh*t") his vocal is drenched in tape delay (echo) ala Lennon. So it wasn't just a John thing to record in this style.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: TurnMeOnDeadman on February 20, 2005, 01:41:12 AM
Im lsitening to A Day In life on my Ipod on repeat! I love this song even more!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Sondra on February 20, 2005, 01:41:41 AM
Now I'm gonna have to go listen to Lucy and Rita and come back to the isolated Ahhhs!!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: TurnMeOnDeadman on February 20, 2005, 01:42:26 AM
Never Goose me Any Other Way (ba lum ba dza)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 01:42:33 AM
Quote from: An_Apple_Beatle
LOL.....Will do Al....This is a goody...What came first? The chicken or the egg? lol

I bet Macca started and John finished just to really wind us all up!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 01:43:29 AM
Quote from: The_End

3. Listen to the first bit of the "aaahs" (the descending scale) - it is so distinctly Paul. Admittedly, the 2nd bit (the ascending scale) is more nasaly and Lennon-esque but if you listen closely you can hear it's Paul. I swear! ;D

Take another listen - I hope the debate continues.

Hi. The ascending 'aaahs' was always the gauntlet dropping for me. No matter how well Paul might have been able to mimic John, there's no way that's Paul. Of course, I wasn't there, it is an opinion, I wasn't in the studio, I don't have Chuck's book, etc.

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 01:44:38 AM
Quote from: Harrison
I think it's Paul, regardless of Mr. Charlie's evidence.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 01:46:28 AM
Quote from: TurnMeOnDeadman
I swear to my life its Paul!! i wish they talked about it in the anthology!! that would be proof, I cant belive people still think its John, The second"aahh" sounds exactly like Paul

sigh

What can you do?

I guess since it is not as clear as *I* think it is one can only add this brick to the controversy.  I don't see any way a reasonable person could hear John, and I don't count Maria as reasonable, hence the backlash.  But others hear John, and I admit it is a very very close resemblance, so whaddaya gonna do?

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Sondra on February 20, 2005, 01:47:40 AM
At first I heard John coming in at the end, but now I'm hearing Paul all the way through. He goes up a little at the end and it's strong and clean like Paul. Not so nasal as I originaly thought. I'm probably trying to hear John as I thought it was him for like 20 years!! It wasn't until a few months ago when I listened on headphones that I thought it could be Paul!! The discussion then wasn't nearly as exciting then as it is now though!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 01:49:52 AM
Quote from: The_End

Yep, that's what I hear too. :)



There is a lot of history between Ydoll and Charlie, and a lot of arguments spill over from other threads. I've found it's best not to get involved in the banter. It's just two people exchanging views instead of punches! ;D

(flower)

Not much history between me and Ydoll.  Plenty between me (and everyone else) and Maria.  And some between everyone else and Rotwang.

Fact is they're all the same troll, NOT here to share enlightenment or joy in music but to belittle and ensnare and play baby troll games.  Whatever.  I enjoy slapping a**holes upside the head because of what they do and who they are.  But not to the total detriment of the board.  SO I'll chill FOR NOW.  Until the Mouth makes it plain it is in need of another severe disciplining.

SO run, kiddies, frolic, no one is going to hurt you, least of all me. :)

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on February 20, 2005, 01:51:15 AM
Quote from: Maccalvr
it's strong and clean like Paul.

Yeah, he's a clean ole man isn't he!! LOL! ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Sondra on February 20, 2005, 01:52:07 AM
Any reasonable person could most definitely hear John! It's who most of us thought it was for years and years so obviously there's a damn good resemblence. As for listening to the isolated tracks, it does take a few listens to release yourself from all those years of hearing it one way and now trying to except another. Your ears play tricks on you. But I wouldn't bet my life on the fact that it's solely Paul. Even though I may think so now. Maybe John could have been edited in there somewhere. I don't know. They did like to experiment.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 01:52:14 AM
Quote from: Maccalvr
LOL!!! Now that would really be messing with our heads!!!


The more I listen, the right rear one sounds more like Paul starting as well. But I still think John's following him up. Just because it gets more nasal and high pitched. But again, Paul's voice was pretty versitile. Like the Lovely Rita thing someone mentioned. Similiar. Anyway, dontcha just LOVE this song?? It should be given some kinda special award for greatest song of all time or something. Cuz it is.

Absolutely!  When I was editing it over and over it just sounded sooo good!  My son, who is only a Beatle acknowledger by force (he was around it all his life) thought the edits sounded so good he wanted to hear it.  Immediately.  SO we did. :D

I edited the segmenet out of a longer track where John's lead voice was isolated as well.  Talk about ache.  The single best voice in rock, bar none.  From Twist & Shout to this.  Sublime.

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 01:53:40 AM
Quote from: Maccalvr
Now I'm gonna have to go listen to Lucy and Rita and come back to the isolated Ahhhs!!

I dunno, that might confuse you more. :)  

Just enjoy them all, that's all they wanted us to do.  They didn't count on a few anal souls like me to dissect everything.

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 01:56:28 AM
Quote from: juniorsfarm
Quote from: The_End

3. Listen to the first bit of the "aaahs" (the descending scale) - it is so distinctly Paul. Admittedly, the 2nd bit (the ascending scale) is more nasaly and Lennon-esque but if you listen closely you can hear it's Paul. I swear! ;D

Take another listen - I hope the debate continues.

Hi. The ascending 'aaahs' was always the gauntlet dropping for me. No matter how well Paul might have been able to mimic John, there's no way that's Paul. Of course, I wasn't there, it is an opinion, I wasn't in the studio, I don't have Chuck's book, etc.


Hell, *I* don't have "my" book!  :D  If I did I'd quote it and be done with it.

No, this was the proof I'd forgotten convinced me.  The books are very quiet about this subject.

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on February 20, 2005, 01:57:09 AM
There's definitely other vocals going on in the mix too - particularly where "Paul" seems to go off key at the very end.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 01:57:48 AM
Quote from: Maccalvr
At first I heard John coming in at the end, but now I'm hearing Paul all the way through. He goes up a little at the end and it's strong and clean like Paul. Not so nasal as I originaly thought. I'm probably trying to hear John as I thought it was him for like 20 years!! It wasn't until a few months ago when I listened on headphones that I thought it could be Paul!! The discussion then wasn't nearly as exciting then as it is now though!

I fear that we may all have a tendency to hear what we 'think' or want it to be.  But enough people, myself included, have heard this and been gobsmacked realizing it WAS Paul, that that is the bigger proof to me than almost anything shy of hearing it myself.

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 02:00:43 AM
Quote from: Maccalvr
Any reasonable person could most definitely hear John! It's who most of us thought it was for years and years so obviously there's a damn good resemblence. As for listening to the isolated tracks, it does take a few listens to release yourself from all those years of hearing it one way and now trying to except another. Your ears play tricks on you. But I wouldn't bet my life on the fact that it's solely Paul. Even though I may think so now. Maybe John could have been edited in there somewhere. I don't know. They did like to experiment.
I don't think so because of the track situation.  They just didn't have that luxury.

But yes, of course a reasonable person could hear John.  Yes, we too did think it was him all these years, but only by hearing a vinyl/CD copy.  This was lifted from the master tapes.  And it is shorn of most of the orchestra.

Still...who knows?  They made "number nine' sound like 'turn me on dead man' backwards, so maybe there was some purposeful wizardry there.


Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Frightwolf on February 20, 2005, 02:01:06 AM
Quote from: TurnMeOnDeadman
I would fall out of my chair if it was Ringo!


 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 02:03:02 AM
Quote from: The_End
There's definitely other vocals going on in the mix too - particularly where "Paul" seems to go off key at the very end.

Aww...now you're qualifying it?  Next you will call him Faul.  Or Jaul.  Or Pohn.

;-)

There is a second voice far in the b/g that is kind of weirdly off key and messing about falsetto-style.  If there is another voice it's probably Paul's heavy echo trailing off but again, who knows?

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Sondra on February 20, 2005, 02:03:19 AM
Yeah, John does have the greatest rock voice. As much as I LOVE Paul's voice and I do think he has more range and ability, it doesn't effect me as much as JOhn's can when he sings songs like A Day in the Life, Dear Prudence, Imagine, etc. I don't know what it is. But Paul's voice is only like 1 milimeter away from JOhn's in that area because when I hear Let it Be or Hey Jude, Maybe I'm Amazed, I'm just as blown away.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 02:13:56 AM
Well, Paul had a smoother, more professional pop sounding voice.  John had the perfect 'rock' voice.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Sondra on February 20, 2005, 02:27:54 AM
I don't make that distinction with the Beatles. I don't consider them pop. Not as pop is defined nowadays. And Paul did some pretty good rockers that's for sure. I think when I pick John's voice over Paul's it's usually his more sensitive songs. I like when he uses that voice. There 'rock' voices to me are pretty equal. Like I love John doing Revolution and I love Paul doing Get Back or Helter Skelter. But again, John tends to sing with a bit more passion like on Twist and Shout. I'm rambling again. I can't pick one over the other. I guess that's what I'm saying.

BTW, speaking of Twist and Shout, I wonder how Ferris Bueller's Day Off got permission to use that song. I thought that was like next to impossible. I thought about this the other day. Clearly, I'm spending way too much time thinking about the Beatles!!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 02:36:41 AM
Good question.  I think it's just too expensive and most filmmakers don't want to pay for it.  I guess Chris Columbus felt it was worth it...plus in the early 80's the Beatles were not the hot commodity they are now.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 02:43:16 AM
Quote from: Harrison
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Sondra on February 20, 2005, 02:44:35 AM
Funny that they actually had a lull. Did they? I remember getting most of my Beatles songs on tape from the radio in the 80's actually. (cheap parents!) But then most people in the 80's were listening to CRAP. So of course they wouldn't be interested in the Beatles. Although when they used Revolution in that Nike ad, the Beatles fans came out in full force. Maybe because Twist and Shout wasn't actually written by the Beatles, it made it easier to get?
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 03:11:05 AM
There have been varying levels, but never a lull.  There has always been a large baseline interest and their albums and memorabilia have always sold steadily, and there are things that spike that interest. Unfortunately in the early '80s it was John's death that had everyone buying up their albums. Towards the end of the 80's was Paul's tour that did the same and people were bringing their kids and grandkids, and so began a new  generation(s) of fan(s). Mid '90s with Anthology, etc. The Beatles were the #1 money maker in 1996 with $130 million smackers.  Maybe he is referring to the exorbitant prices of original records, memorabilia, etc. One of John's Jumbo acoustics fetched about $600.00 in the mid-'70s, the same guitar sold about 8 years ago for $150,000 or so. The music is timeless, it will always have a huge audience come rain or come shine.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 03:13:33 AM
Quote from: juniorsfarm

Get used to it, its Chuck's world--we're just lucky to be living in it.


You're damn right.

Oops!  Did I say something naughty?  Better rip off a nasty email to your congressman, letting them know how baaaaaad I am, Princess.  :)

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 03:16:35 AM
Quote from: Maccalvr
Funny that they actually had a lull. Did they? I remember getting most of my Beatles songs on tape from the radio in the 80's actually. (cheap parents!) But then most people in the 80's were listening to CRAP. So of course they wouldn't be interested in the Beatles. Although when they used Revolution in that Nike ad, the Beatles fans came out in full force. Maybe because Twist and Shout wasn't actually written by the Beatles, it made it easier to get?
Maybe, tho it's historically been the performances by them, over and above the songs themselves that have been expensive (hence the sound-alikes on tv commercials).

When was Ferris Buehler made?  There was a period where the Beatles were just not much on the minds of people, tho John's death goosed it up in the very early 80's.  Paul's tour didn't do that much for the general population, but the 87 release of the CD's did.

Whatever.  I was just positing.  I could easily be wrong.

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 03:34:40 AM
Quote from: Mr_Charlie

You're damn right.

Oops!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Sondra on February 20, 2005, 03:40:39 AM
Quote from: Mr_Charlie
Maybe, tho it's historically been the performances by them, over and above the songs themselves that have been expensive (hence the sound-alikes on tv commercials).

When was Ferris Buehler made?
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 03:43:38 AM
Quote from: juniorsfarm

Most of your cuts always have some reference to a lack of masculinity, i.e. Princess, you usually question the 'manliness' of the poster or make some reference to it. Is that supposed to make me/them feel bad? We don't agree and that somehow is a reflection of us being men or effeminate somehow? What if there are gay viewers or posters? Don't you think that a sweeping cut like that would offend those you don't regularly attack? Or don't you give a rip about everyone in general? The name calling doesn't bother me, it just reinforces the level you're at, but I don't get the emasculating references, unless you are one of those that are in the closet and hate yourself for it, so you compensate by making cuts like that. Chuck, what up?

Nice try, Princess.

I just happen to know it p*sses you off (masculinity problems?) so I say it.  ;D
I never said anything about gays or anything offensive to any.  Except, of course, if you ARE gay that alone is a major offense against them. :)

I treated you with respect in this thread, thanking you for your opinion.  I said I would bother you no further and so the rest of us adults were talking Beatle stuff (remember them?) and you toss that cheap shot (Chuck's world---bla bla bla).  An insult is not a disagreement, cupcake.  

I call you princess because you are a crybaby.  You would run home to your mom if you thought she could get me out of here.  You're a back stabber, and someone who wants to nurture your little hatred of me like a hot marble in your hands.  I explained and apologized more than once for your first post misunderstanding but you cannot let go of it.  You don't acknowledge it.  Perhaps camping out on Dmitry's lawn and offering your services might help, huh?  

I acknowledged you can be a good poster (not like Ydoll) but that's not good enough.  I thank you for your opinion, even tho I'm pretty damned sure that if I said it was John you'd say Paul.  Just because.  But you wanted to pout about...well, nothing, really.  And now it's all this?  Waaaaaah.

Pft.  
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 03:45:56 AM
Quote from: Maccalvr

I think Ferris was made in like 84 or 85, 86? Dunno. I think John's death made HIS albums sell more. I remember a lot of Double Fantasy being played. I had already gone through my heavy Beatles phase, but I don't remember anyone else suddenly getting into them over that. It was just shocking is all. I remember wearing a Beatles t-shirt in high school, and someone saying The Beatles?? Like why would I be into them when such great bands as AC/DC and Van Halen were all the rage. So maybe it was a lull. But I can only speak for the population of the idiots that went to my High School on Long Island!!


There ya go.  That seems to be right.  Mid 80's, after the John boost but before the CD's came out.

There was a lull.  Maybe not a lull but kind of nothing on the Beatle horizon, and so perhaps one of their oldest songs (it would have been 20 years old then...maybe that was another factor) was not as expensive (and, as you say, a cover version).
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 03:59:21 AM
Quote from: Mr_Charlie

Man, you got issues. I feel sorry for you, but on a happy note, you have some of the Moderators in your back pocket, so you get to post this kind of junk, and then blame it on everyone else for turning this forum into a circus. Good Lord, that one thread, you posted, what, 4 or 5 times to one of Ydoll's comments (yes, I can count but I didn't count the posts before composing this post). If you're honestly taking the high road, you'd let it go Chuck, but you don't. I used to know people that acted like you and talked this kind of crap, then we got to 7th grade. Get off your cross, someone else needs the wood. Now, how's about back to the topic, or better yet, let this one go, and move on.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 04:15:14 AM
Quote from: Mr_Charlie

p.s. I forgive you, and frankly I'm ashamed of myself for this whole thing, you are at an unfair disadvantage and for me to capitalize on that is reprehensible.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 04:52:31 AM
Ferris Bueller's Day Off was out in 1986.



Here's an idea...how we all just get over this topic and give up the fighting. It's gotten beyond tiresome.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: number14 on February 20, 2005, 05:03:11 AM
now that i listen to it it does sound like paul i always thought it was john

thats awesome
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 07:53:32 AM
Quote from: Maccalvr
I don't make that distinction with the Beatles. I don't consider them pop. Not as pop is defined nowadays. And Paul did some pretty good rockers that's for sure. I think when I pick John's voice over Paul's it's usually his more sensitive songs. I like when he uses that voice. There 'rock' voices to me are pretty equal. Like I love John doing Revolution and I love Paul doing Get Back or Helter Skelter. But again, John tends to sing with a bit more passion like on Twist and Shout. I'm rambling again. I can't pick one over the other. I guess that's what I'm saying.

BTW, speaking of Twist and Shout, I wonder how Ferris Bueller's Day Off got permission to use that song. I thought that was like next to impossible. I thought about this the other day. Clearly, I'm spending way too much time thinking about the Beatles!!

Yeah, my description (Paul pop/Jon rock) is a terrible cliche.  "Hello?  Captain Obvious?"   ::)

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 08:00:04 AM
Quote from: juniorsfarm
Quote from: Mr_Charlie

Man, you got issues. I feel sorry for you, but on a happy note, you have some of the Moderators in your back pocket, so you get to post this kind of junk, and then blame it on everyone else for turning this forum into a circus. Good Lord, that one thread, you posted, what, 4 or 5 times to one of Ydoll's comments (yes, I can count but I didn't count the posts before composing this post). If you're honestly taking the high road, you'd let it go Chuck, but you don't. I used to know people that acted like you and talked this kind of crap, then we got to 7th grade. Get off your cross, someone else needs the wood. Now, how's about back to the topic, or better yet, let this one go, and move on.


I have no moderators in my pocket.  I am in love with ONE, the ONE that you unfortunately chose to whine and pout and complain to constantly,.   She stayed out of it except to tell you (and me) to block each other.  Your smarmy attitude is endemic of who you are.

High road?  How many times am I supposed to apologize for mistaking you for a spammer?  How many times do I have to say that as personally annoying to me you are otherwise a good and valuable poster who should stay?  How many ways can I bend for you before you acknowledge them?  Guess what?  I don't like being wrong, and I don't like apologizing, but I do it when I f*** up because it IS the right thing to do.  And I did extend an olive branch to you AND Rotweiller more than once.  And you shat on it and continued to complain about me behind my back.  I'll bet you ripped off a couple of good ones to some other mods even today.

I will even apologize to you right now for calling you silly names IF only you will let it go.  Stop trying to get rid of me.  Keep posting on topic, you ARE a good poster when you want to be.  I really will leave you alone now.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 08:00:45 AM
Quote from: number14
now that i listen to it it does sound like paul i always thought it was john

thats awesome


Isn't it???:D

I love this stuff.  New discoveries and such.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Dmitry on February 20, 2005, 05:58:13 PM
Quote from: Mr_Charlie
Ydoll/Maria/Rotweiller is not looking nor reporting for truth.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 06:12:00 PM
Quote from: admin





MrCharlie, usualy members get banned for such offensive behaviour.
Please take care!

Really?  And what does it take to ban the people who inspire such behaviour?



Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 07:47:38 PM
Quote from: Mr_Charlie

Really?
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 20, 2005, 08:20:43 PM
Quote from: juniorsfarm

Let it go. 'People that inspire such behaviour', like there's no way you can control yourself. Handle it and move on.


I have tried to let it go with you, -you- are the one who refused.  You talk a good game (your advice is right-on) but you don't live by the same rules.

Anyway,  sorry for tagging you earlier before reading this.  It's not exactly a repsonse to my generous offer but it's obviously as much as I will get from you I suppose.

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 21, 2005, 06:03:53 AM
You're all wrong! It's Ringo.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: TurnMeOnDeadman on February 21, 2005, 08:28:05 AM
it wasnt ringo..it was Brian Epstein
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: zipp on February 21, 2005, 03:00:35 PM
Quote from: The_End
There has been a great deal of debate surrounding just who sang the "aaaaaahhs" after Paul's line "somebody spoke and I went into a dream" from A Day In The Life. Well, Mr Charlie has sent me some evidence which, I believe, finally reveals the truth... it's Paul!

Now you can judge for yourselves - I've uploaded the two clips!! Please let me know what you think.

[url]http://www.geocities.com/the_end_gb/dmforum/day.html[/url]



Thanks for the clips T.E.

I've listened and listened.
I've even tried playing them at the same time as you suggested (thus inventing a new game by using the start/pause buttons to see who gets to the end first!).
I've read all the posts.
I've seen Mr.Charlie take on the whole world and even fall in love with a mod.

But I still hear John.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Soft_Guitar60 on February 21, 2005, 03:54:28 PM
Quote from: Harrison
I would laugh so hard if it turned out to be George.
Quote from: TurnMeOnDeadman
I would fall out of my chair if it was Ringo!

Hehe...it could be a possibility. J/K
I think the 'Paul' fans are hearing Paul and the 'John' fans are hearing John in A Day in the Life. That's my opinion...maybe I'm wrong.  :P

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on February 22, 2005, 12:17:05 AM
Quote from: Soft_Guitar60
I think the 'Paul' fans are hearing Paul and the 'John' fans are hearing John in A Day in the Life. That's my opinion...maybe I'm wrong.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on February 23, 2005, 04:12:00 AM
I hear paul, doing john.  theres the rastpyness of Johns voice, but on the higher notes, i hear pauls voice revealing itself.  paul for me.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: zipp on February 23, 2005, 01:51:21 PM
Why would Paul do John when John was there to do it himself?
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on February 23, 2005, 04:53:02 PM
Perhaps it was just convenient - remember they were only working with 4 tracks and the "aaahhhs" had much more delay than the lead vocal. Paul had earlier recorded his "woke up" segment with loads of delay on it also (an out-take does exist which proves this), maybe the "aaahs" were a continuation of that take.

I know it's a lot of maybes, but one thing is certain - it's Paul! ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Soft_Guitar60 on February 25, 2005, 04:23:10 PM
Paul's voice was in 'mono' (in the middle), John was singing in 'stereo' (left-right, right-left). So I still think it's John who sings it.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on March 05, 2005, 05:58:37 PM
The placement of the vocal wasn't arrived at until the stereo mix-down stage - this is when John's vocal was panned across the stereo image. There are various mixes available which show there was some experimentation with the placement of the vocals. So... I don't think the "middle" and "left/right" argument gives weight to either argument. :)

But it's Paul I tells ya! ;D

(flower)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Bruno on March 05, 2005, 07:22:20 PM
yeah, it's definitely Paul
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on March 05, 2005, 08:56:36 PM
Quote from: The_End
But it's Paul I tells ya!

And ... I tells ya ... it's John!

Sorry, couldn't resist.

As a matter of fact, I have been playing this part of the song to several people who are familiar with the Beatles' work. ALL say it is clearly Lennon. One woman made the observation that some people like to be perverse, for the sake of appearing clever.

I tend to agree with her there. I'm not implying you, or anyone else in particular, is in that boat. But some certainly are.

I wasn't going to post this, but then I saw you had re-asserted your opinion, so I though I'd re-assert mine.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Soft_Guitar60 on March 05, 2005, 09:13:36 PM
Why is it Paul? LOL
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: An Apple Beatle on March 07, 2005, 12:44:03 AM
I still think it's John. Surprised this is not a voted topic!! ;)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Lostio on March 07, 2005, 01:59:16 AM
Quote from: Soft_Guitar60
Why is it Paul? LOL

Because it's not John. ;D

I hear Paul as well. I dunno, but comparing the higher notes of Paul and the higher notes of John with this 'aaaaaaaaaaaah', Paul's notes sound more like it.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: An Apple Beatle on March 07, 2005, 12:45:17 PM
I still hear Johns nasalness shining through. ;) lol
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Mendips on March 07, 2005, 07:06:04 PM
It's GEORGE!!!!!!!!



 ;D



Sorry! I agree with HereComes, It sounds to me like Paul doing John, but that's just my humble opinion.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on March 07, 2005, 07:24:51 PM
At this rate, it will turn out that it was really Paul doing all John's singing. Paul sings Help, SFF, Walrus, AHDN, Rain, Come Together, Ballad of John & Yoko, ....

I'm surprised that claim hasn't been made by Paul's Pals already! After all, Paul is a better drummer than Ringo, better guitarist than George, better writer than John, ...
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on March 07, 2005, 08:03:31 PM
No need to start any further unecessary debates! :)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: sexy sadie on March 07, 2005, 08:49:48 PM
i always thought it was john...how strange! but 4 some reason the clips won't play for me...it has the play button pressed, and i try to click it and nothing happens :(
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: sexy sadie on March 07, 2005, 08:51:41 PM
nevermind i got it!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: sexy sadie on March 07, 2005, 08:52:30 PM
it does sound ALOT like paul...but for some reason i keep thinking it's john! i wish we could just ask them ourselves :)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Mendips on March 07, 2005, 10:54:17 PM
Wouldn't that be lovely!
Imagine Paul coming here one day to answer all our questions!!!


Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Mairi on March 07, 2005, 11:00:24 PM
Like....


"will you marry me?"
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Bruno on March 08, 2005, 03:43:47 AM
wait, it's Ringo
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Soft_Guitar60 on March 08, 2005, 11:52:06 AM
Wait, it's George...

I heard ADITL (again) yesterday...what I hear is John singing at the beginning and Paul singing in the end. Still wondering who sang the 'oooh' during that part (3:02 - 3:12).
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Lostio on March 08, 2005, 09:23:30 PM
It's actually the dead spirit of Hitler.

I mean, Paul. :P

Compare songs such as "When I'm Sixty-Four" and "Lovely Rita" to that part.

Another trick could be having a picture of Paul and John singing at the Sgt. Peppers period and try to imagine which picture would be most associated to that part.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: sexy sadie on March 09, 2005, 01:25:15 AM
Quote from: Mendips
Wouldn't that be lovely!
Imagine Paul coming here one day to answer all our questions!!!



hahaha, id love to ask them questions! i have so many!  :)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Soft_Guitar60 on March 09, 2005, 03:44:58 PM
Just write a darn letter to Paul...hehe.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: An Apple Beatle on March 09, 2005, 05:44:47 PM
Here you go...Found this.

A Day In The Life

0:36
    The middle note (the
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Lostio on March 10, 2005, 04:39:03 PM
Quote from: An_Apple_Beatle
3:02-3:12
 
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: An Apple Beatle on March 10, 2005, 05:15:39 PM
Yes but the original question on this forum was 'who does the aaaaaahhhhh's!!! lol
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on March 10, 2005, 07:39:42 PM
And no matter how much some people try and wriggle and squirm, it's still Our John doing the 'aaaaahhhhh' bits.

Forgive me, I couldn't resist.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on March 10, 2005, 07:46:05 PM
Its John already. Bastante.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on March 10, 2005, 08:19:05 PM
I'm afraid we are all going to agree to disagree on this one... at least until you realise I'm correct!! LOL ;D

(flower)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Indica on March 10, 2005, 09:44:43 PM
Its Mal!


 ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Soft_Guitar60 on March 11, 2005, 08:34:37 PM
I heard another 'aaah' in the background at '2:53' but very faint...
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on March 13, 2005, 12:23:13 AM
I emailed Mike of the "What Goes On" website - http://www.pootle.demon.co.uk/wgo.htm - and he has now entered the debate too! Here is his reply:

'Another "Who sang SLYYYY" brewing? :)

The opening section of "Ah's" to 2:53, has qualities of Paul's voice, but
not beyond that point. The ragged ending at 3:12 is more John's style.

From a recording point of view, the quality of the voice and effects matches
John's from the rest of the recording (huge delay and echo, being panned
around, thin and harsh) -- contrast against Paul's fairly dry, close mic'd,
bass present voice.

Also, Lewisohn's _Recording Sessions_ states that Paul's bit began at "Woke
up" and ended on "everybody spoke and I went into a dream .... oh sh*t" --
which was later replaced with a take *without* the vocal error and expletive.

I'd go with it being John ... there is a background vocal also around 3:03
to 3:10 singing "oo-ooo" over John's vocal, I think that might be Paul. Just
to add confusion.

Mike.'

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on March 13, 2005, 12:40:39 AM
La, la, how the life goes on ...
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on March 13, 2005, 02:35:56 PM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn
La, la, how the life goes on ...

Yeah, that was Paul too! ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on March 13, 2005, 04:19:03 PM
Quote from: The_End
I emailed Mike of the "What Goes On" website - http://www.pootle.demon.co.uk/wgo.htm - and he has now entered the debate too! Here is his reply:

'Another "Who sang SLYYYY" brewing? :)

The opening section of "Ah's" to 2:53, has qualities of Paul's voice, but
not beyond that point. The ragged ending at 3:12 is more John's style.

From a recording point of view, the quality of the voice and effects matches
John's from the rest of the recording (huge delay and echo, being panned
around, thin and harsh) -- contrast against Paul's fairly dry, close mic'd,
bass present voice.

Also, Lewisohn's _Recording Sessions_ states that Paul's bit began at "Woke
up" and ended on "everybody spoke and I went into a dream .... oh sh*t" --
which was later replaced with a take *without* the vocal error and expletive.

I'd go with it being John ... there is a background vocal also around 3:03
to 3:10 singing "oo-ooo" over John's vocal, I think that might be Paul. Just
to add confusion.

Mike.'

Hooray!! Now quick lock this thing.

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: zipp on March 13, 2005, 05:03:34 PM
Well done T.E.
First you asked a pretty good source and then you gave us his reply.
And it seems a pretty sensible reply to me!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on March 14, 2005, 12:08:45 AM
This has been a great debate actually! However, I do disagree with Mike and hold firm to MY belief that it is Paul - but you'll notice that didn't stop me posting HIS view. :D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on March 14, 2005, 12:09:15 AM
Case closed?
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Lostio on March 14, 2005, 12:15:48 AM
I'd say so.

It was John.
And Paul 'ooooo'd there a bit.
John did the 'aaaah's.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on March 14, 2005, 12:21:10 AM
Hey, you can't go closing the case and then say it's John... especially as it's Paul! LOL! Hee hee ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Lostio on March 14, 2005, 01:25:54 AM
...I see it's better to leave it open then. ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on March 14, 2005, 01:29:46 AM
I will say no more! ;D

(flower)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Indica on March 14, 2005, 01:38:23 AM
I always thought it was John, it just never occured to me to be paul.
After hearing it, it could well be! I mean he does ahhhhh's on Lovely Rita, which share some of the same wealth. I feel ashamed that such a debate did not enter my own head :)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on March 14, 2005, 01:47:07 AM
It's amazing isn't it? I used to think it was John too! ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on March 14, 2005, 04:44:18 AM
Quote from: The_End
It's amazing isn't it? I used to think it was John too! ;D

You were right Al. It was John, now, quick lock this thing. There's a box of new and improved MACCA Soily Undergarments in it for you.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on March 14, 2005, 01:16:29 PM
Quote from: juniorsfarm
quick lock this thing. There's a box of new and improved MACCA Soily Undergarments in it for you.

Ewwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!! I always wondered what Paul's 'Soily' was about, and now I know! ;D

PS I said I USED TO think it was John - but now I see the error of my ways! ;D

(flower)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on March 14, 2005, 07:23:30 PM
I think this debate has been much ado about nothing.

Some people got onto a bandwagon. Some people (ahem!) had a fight with the originator of the debate.

But in the end, it was still Our John!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on March 14, 2005, 09:20:57 PM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn
But in the end, it was still Our John!

Also, in the end, I am equally convinced it was Paul ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on March 15, 2005, 12:25:25 AM
STOP THE MADNESS!! Its John imitating Paul imitating John. How's that for a compromise? Its the freakin' Nurk Twins from Hell.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Herecomesyoursun on March 15, 2005, 12:27:34 AM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn
I think this debate has been much ado about nothing.

Some people got onto a bandwagon. Some people (ahem!) had a fight with the originator of the debate.

But in the end, it was still Our John!

no its definately My Paul.  
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on March 15, 2005, 03:24:39 AM
Quote from: Herecomesyoursun

no its definately My Paul.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on March 15, 2005, 06:13:41 AM
Quote from: Herecomesyoursun

no its definately My Paul.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on March 15, 2005, 01:50:56 PM
As opposed to "Our John"! ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Mushmouth on March 15, 2005, 01:52:54 PM
Wouldn't it be crazy if it was like ringo...
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on March 15, 2005, 07:19:03 PM
Quote from: The_End
As opposed to "Our John"! ;D

You DO know what I'm getting at with "our" John, don't you?

English people from the north? Family?

I'll bet you are southern English, End!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Indica on March 15, 2005, 08:29:39 PM
Quote from: Mushmouth
Wouldn't it be crazy if it was like ringo...

haha, a royal fingers up to the Starr critics  :)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: sexy sadie on March 15, 2005, 11:11:17 PM
Quote from: Mushmouth
Wouldn't it be crazy if it was like ringo...

HAHAHAHA! we find out years from now that it's someone entirely different, not a beatle @ all. LOLOL ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on March 15, 2005, 11:34:22 PM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn
You DO know what I'm getting at with "our" John, don't you?
English people from the north? Family?
I'll bet you are southern English, End!

LOL!!! Yes on ALL counts Ydoll! ;D

You SO have me pegged! ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Lostio on March 16, 2005, 03:19:40 PM
There's only one way to be sure:

Ask Paul.

Anyone here knows his phone number?
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on March 16, 2005, 07:17:56 PM
Quote from: Lostio
There's only one way to be sure:

Ask Paul.

Anyone here knows his phone number?

Trouble is, these days Paul would give the answer painting him in the best light, and John in the poorest.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: An Apple Beatle on March 18, 2005, 02:53:43 PM
^Give the man a break Ydoll. About who sung some ahhh's in a song? Quit with the MAcca bashin. It's becoming aggrevating. No need for that assumption.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on March 18, 2005, 09:06:13 PM
Quote from: An_Apple_Beatle
^Give the man a break Ydoll. About who sung some ahhh's in a song? Quit with the MAcca bashin. It's becoming aggrevating. No need for that assumption.

Sadly, there's every need for that assumption. If you've been following Paul's takes on Beatles matters, you'll realize that for 20 years now he has increasingly put himself over at the expense of John. Read Barry Miles' book, for instance, and cringe at the arrogance of McCartney. Always helping John with his songs (but hardly ever admitting the other way), contributing essential bits, being more "avante garde" than John, and so on.

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: An Apple Beatle on March 18, 2005, 10:50:10 PM
Well it must be selective reading you got goin there. Always question the source.
Have you read any comments by George MArtin? Surely he is the authority on this kinda thing. It strikes me that you can hear the input each have put in from the songs themselves.
Your bias towards John makes you feel that about him. OK, it's your thing. Do what you gotta do.
Paul likes attention, no 2 shakes about it but again you doth protest too much!! lol
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on March 19, 2005, 09:10:33 PM
My bias is towards truth, not John or Paul or anything else.

I go to Miles' book because that had Macca's imprimatur.

It strikes me that you can hear the input each have put in from the songs themselves.
On the contrary, it strikes me that you often can't. People like to think they can, but that's delusion. And that allows Macca to paint himself in a more favorable light.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Sondra on March 19, 2005, 10:35:16 PM
McCartney may have gotten defensive or overly zealous because of the GOD image that John's fanatical fans have given him. It was starting to get to the point where it was John's band and John was the creative genius and John was the Beatles soul and Paul was the fluff. I'd be annoyed too if I were reduced to that after being a HUGE part of the most successful band of all time. I think he acted like most people would have in that situation. Even John. John who made claims just as egotistical before his death. Can't you see both sides?
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: TurnMeOnDeadman on March 19, 2005, 11:05:17 PM
it doesnt matter who sings the "aaahhs", in the end, they did a damn good job of it, even if it was Yoko
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on March 19, 2005, 11:06:05 PM
Quote from: Maccalvr
McCartney may have gotten defensive or overly zealous because of the GOD image that John's fanatical fans have given him. It was starting to get to the point where it was John's band and John was the creative genius and John was the Beatles soul and Paul was the fluff. I'd be annoyed too if I were reduced to that after being a HUGE part of the most successful band of all time. I think he acted like most people would have in that situation. Even John. John who made claims just as egotistical before his death. Can't you see both sides?

I totally agree, bad enough Macca has to compete with himself, but also with John's deified memory.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: TurnMeOnDeadman on March 19, 2005, 11:06:42 PM
forget what i said above^..I think its Paul
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: An Apple Beatle on March 20, 2005, 01:07:30 PM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn
My bias is towards truth, not John or Paul or anything else.

I go to Miles' book because that had Macca's imprimatur.

It strikes me that you can hear the input each have put in from the songs themselves.
On the contrary, it strikes me that you often can't. People like to think they can, but that's delusion. And that allows Macca to paint himself in a more favorable light.

You mean what YOU think is true? A truth from a book? I am speaking from a musicians point of view when I made that comment about their inputs. I don't believe that it is that far-fetched an idea. Contrary to your beliefs, it seems you like to think you can't.
Well, in some songs you have a point but generally they are singing on their own tunes. I.e. Their own concepted ideas/chords. Notice I say, GENERALLY.
Anyway, it was more Paul bashing on your behalf, you can never resist. They both had great input, one not overshadowing the other. It's your kind of nit-picking that raises this whole Paul is be-littling Lennon's legacy that I find un-healthy in Beatle fans. I certainly would'nt say I was deluded either.
Again, I find myself balancing the negativity of your opinions on Paul. Theres no more painting to be done regards Beatles. It is all done and there to see, no matter what each man wants to say in their own auto-biographies. Unsurprisingly they generally talk about.....wait for it......themselves!

Anyways, surely it has been established that they were both rather good. That'll do for me.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Lostio on March 20, 2005, 01:43:51 PM
I asked virtual John who sang it and he said it was Niels Bohr.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on March 20, 2005, 07:20:35 PM
I cannot understand those folk who don't see the revisionism Paul McCartney has been involved in over the last couple of decades. Certainly, it may be in response to those who have "sainted" John Lennon: but Macca is surely doing it, whatever the reason.

My own "Macca-bashing" is really criticism of Paul's attitude, immaturity, and petulance. It is also a take on the low standards some of his music has sunk to. But there's no need, really, to call it "bashing". It's just me talking about a man whose contribution to one of the greatest bands of all time is undeniable, but who subsequently lost the plot.

No one is above criticism. Remember that even Paul himself has passed negative comments about some of his work in the eighties!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: An Apple Beatle on March 20, 2005, 07:45:08 PM
QuoteNo one is above criticism. Remember that even Paul himself has passed negative comments about some of his work in the eighties!

YEs, but so he should!!! lol. ;) I see what your saying to a degree Ydoll. I just don't like to hear about it. It's a free board though. It just dos'nt fit into how I would like to revere them. If you get what I mean? This whole PAul vs Lennon thing means nothing to me.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on March 20, 2005, 08:28:27 PM
Quote from: An_Apple_Beatle
If you get what I mean? This whole PAul vs Lennon thing means nothing to me.

Nice post, Apple Beatle. But with reference to the quote above: trouble is, the whole Paul vs John thing means a lot to Macca, I think.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: TurnMeOnDeadman on March 20, 2005, 09:11:18 PM
it sounds like Paul to me, not bashing John or anything..but I think its Paul, but Im a bigger John fan than paul, and John does the best parts of the song anyways
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: An Apple Beatle on March 21, 2005, 12:20:21 AM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn

Nice post, Apple Beatle. But with reference to the quote above: trouble is, the whole Paul vs John thing means a lot to Macca, I think.

I just hope your wrong. ;) I would hope Macca has nothing to prove. Maybe age does it to you?Maybe, they should have all taken a vow of silence after The Beatles? lol. Too much money to be made in our curiosity methinks. lol
Sometimes we can know too much.


Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Indica on March 22, 2005, 10:52:55 AM
Too much Monkey business it seems!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: In Blue Hawaii on March 22, 2005, 05:45:36 PM
:D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: allineedislove on April 14, 2005, 05:08:40 AM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn

For what it's worth - it sounds like John to me.

I agree with Ydoll. I heard a very distinct "John" quality or whatever you would like to call it. Futhermore, it is such a smooth transition from the Aaahs to the next line in the song, that I wouold have to think it's John. But that is only my opinion. I'm not putting anyone else down for thinking otherwise... and I would DEFINTELY admit that I was wrong if I listened to it one day and really felt that I heard Paul's voice rather than John's.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on April 14, 2005, 12:17:13 PM
I'd admit if I was wrong too! ;D

By the way, it's Paul! ;-)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 15, 2005, 09:03:48 PM
'Tis verily, John. Truly, and really ...
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Bruno on April 15, 2005, 10:33:04 PM
(http://www.rxsaosebastiao.com.br/figuras/cotonete.gif)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 15, 2005, 11:06:59 PM
Boy Bruno, I think you're being very rude and hurtful to The End.

I wouldn't be surprised if you got your knuckles rapped for that!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Bruno on April 16, 2005, 04:17:04 AM
no, the image is for those who are hearing John ;)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: allineedislove on April 16, 2005, 04:22:51 AM
Quote from: Harrison
I would laugh so hard if it turned out to be George.

Lol, that would be totally fab!
(Not that I think it is, so no one jump down my throat, okay?)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: allineedislove on April 16, 2005, 04:38:39 AM
Maybe it would be a good idea to research this topic through other sources to try and get more proof. That way no one has to fight. I mean I understand that everyone has their own opinion, but this seems to be getting a bit out of hand.

Once I found myself arguing with an old boyfriend, quite like some of the people on this thread over "The Ballad of John and Yoko" We couldn't figure out if It was Paul or Yoko (or both, which we didn't even consider at the time) in the chorus/background. This was a running fight that would be brought up every so often until finally we did our own research to try and prove each other wrong. I think that to this day we would have been fighting about it if we didn't have proof and I think that's needed here.

I will gladly volunteer to try and dig up something, perhaps in writing from a Beatles trivia book or something like that....
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Ydoll Gwyn on April 16, 2005, 04:53:34 AM
Quote from: Bruno
no, the image is for those who are hearing John ;)

Oh dear, Bruno m'boy, you have no sense of humor at all do you?
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Bruno on April 16, 2005, 02:18:52 PM
Quote from: Ydoll_Gwyn

Oh dear, Bruno m'boy, you have no sense of humor at all do you?


you didn't see the smilie at the end of my sentence?

(http://www.cyberbuzz.gatech.edu/kappasigma/images/AT/icons/magoo.jpg);)

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Tontini on April 20, 2005, 12:42:20 AM
It is John. Or I will believe it is John.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Tontini on April 20, 2005, 12:49:50 AM
If you listen to the right ear only of You've Got To Hide Your Love Away, it doesn't sound like John. They just don't sound the same without instruments, so you can never tell.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Sondra on July 19, 2005, 05:42:02 AM
Quote from: The_End
There has been a great deal of debate surrounding just who sang the "aaaaaahhs" after Paul's line "somebody spoke and I went into a dream" from A Day In The Life.

Now you can judge for yourselves - I've uploaded the two clips!! Please let me know what you think.

[url]http://www.geocities.com/the_end_gb/dmforum/day.html[/url]



I've read that it was both of them. Anyone else ever read that or am I imagining it?
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on July 19, 2005, 02:01:08 PM
Quote from: Maccalvr


I've read that it was both of them. Anyone else ever read that or am I imagining it?

Its John.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: An Apple Beatle on July 19, 2005, 02:42:30 PM
No more please!!!! lol....Both!!! Look back on this thread.

This will go on forever!!! lol
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: pc31 on July 20, 2005, 01:51:11 AM
i tought it was you 3.........
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: pc31 on July 20, 2005, 01:52:05 AM
Quote from: An_Apple_Beatle
No more please!!!! lol....Both!!! Look back on this thread.

This will go on forever!!! lol
hush puppy......
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Sondra on July 20, 2005, 03:06:57 AM
Oh well. Just wanted to know if there was a definitive answer. Guess not. I know it's not John by himself anyway. I think it's dumb that we can't discuss this ever again. If someone ever finds any new information, I hope they don't hesitate to post it. I asked the question months before that whole ridiculous fiasco anyway and nothing ever came of it. It's got to be somewhere this info.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Sondra on July 20, 2005, 03:21:01 AM
Quote from: An_Apple_Beatle
No more please!!!! lol....Both!!! Look back on this thread.

This will go on forever!!! lol

I don't have to look back on this thread, I remember it well and it was mostly about male ego instead of getting to the truth. I just listened again and cannot say without a doubt that it's one or the other. One minute I hear Paul and the next John. But mostly Paul. Either way it gives me the freaking chills. I absolutly love those aaahhhs. BTW, Paul can do a damn good imitation of John as we know from Anthology's Real Love.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: adamzero on July 20, 2005, 03:49:26 AM
It's Paul.  It's in Paul's section of the song.  It's his crescendo.  Why would he let John do it after he's built up to that point.  

The line is also melodically very Pauline--by way of Brian Wilson.  It follows the notes pretty carefully.  John would slide and elide more.  Paul is precise.  

There's usually more honey in Paul's voice, more ice in John's.  You can hear the "taste of honey" in the Ahhhs.  
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: An Apple Beatle on July 20, 2005, 09:27:56 AM
Quote
I don't have to look back on this thread, I remember it well and it was mostly about male ego instead of getting to the truth. I just listened again and cannot say without a doubt that it's one or the other. One minute I hear Paul and the next John. But mostly Paul. Either way it gives me the freaking chills. I absolutly love those aaahhhs. BTW, Paul can do a damn good imitation of John as we know from Anthology's Real Love.

I meant this bit...It'll do for me anyway. ;)

Quote from: An_Apple_Beatle
Here you go...Found this.

A Day In The Life

0:36
 
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Sondra on July 20, 2005, 06:01:32 PM
Ah. Sorry! I didn't remember that post. Thanks fo reposting it. Guess it got lost in all the other stuff. :D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Sondra on July 20, 2005, 06:05:36 PM
Wait, where's it from? Do they know for sure it's John's ahh's and Paul's ooo? It could be John's ooo's and Paul's aahh's for all we know....;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: An Apple Beatle on July 21, 2005, 08:03:08 AM
hehehehehehe.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on July 21, 2005, 11:25:57 AM
The sun shines from Paul's aahs!!! ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: mclen57 on July 22, 2005, 02:39:09 AM
Boy, you all have been really going at it on this! I got a pair of Altec Lansing speakers on my comp. which are not shabby, and I still think it can go either way. Somebody needs to ask Paul himself. How 'bout you App?
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on July 22, 2005, 03:14:38 AM
Quote from: adamzero
It's Paul.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Sondra on July 22, 2005, 04:42:13 AM
I wish you had some solid evidence about that. I'm in NO way trying to insult or start any sort of argument. I just think that without a Beatle or George Martin himself saying so (or anyone else who has first hand knowledge), you can't be sure. I swear, I thought it was John for years, but a listen on headphones one day, and suddenly I hear Paul. So I don't know. I'd like to say, oh okay it's John, but I can't. Don't yell at me now love.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Soft_Guitar60 on July 25, 2005, 08:05:20 PM
3:02-3:12
   Paul can be heard doing a faint falsetto "ooo" harmony above John
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Bobber on August 03, 2005, 12:30:06 PM
Where did they go? Mr Charlie? Colleen? This has been a battlefield so far. Never got involved myself (so far), but now that I've listened to it:
the right mix: John
the left mix: Paul
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: raxo on December 31, 2005, 06:34:03 PM
Quote from: An_Apple_Beatle
No more please!!!! lol....Both!!! Look back on this thread.

This will go on forever!!! lol


But this is not the "Who is The Incredible Thread Ender???" thread, is it?  :D

It's time to update this (it was the main topic at the Forum Party 2005, ;D, that one that most of you missed). Don't worry, I was teasing you all: it was funnier than these arguments ... and there'll be another party pretty soon, I guess.  ;)

I agree with Bobber.
The right mix is clearly John: John-esq begining of the aaaah, thinner aaaah and in typical high-pitched voice in the middle and an erratic ending of the aaaah segment (very John). However I must admit than sounds a bit like Paul in the middle.

The left mix is not so clear to me but it sounds more like Paul: self-confident and professional beginning of the aaaah, sweet, warmer and lower aaaah in the middle and a polished up ending (professional again) of the aaaah. 8)

and now: what do YOU think?
Share your opinion with us  ;D (there are a few blue meanies waiting for you ... hehehe ... hahaha ...HAHAHAHAHAHAHA) :D Sorry  :B  ;D




Ooh you can listen here:

http://www.geocities.com/the_end_gb/dmforum/day.html
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: raxo on January 03, 2006, 03:01:26 AM
FUNNY READING!!!  :D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: raxo on January 22, 2006, 02:59:10 PM
For those of you (non somedude210 reference here ;D ) who want to know more about this wonderful song (and some other things like the Abbey Road Studios) here you are (thanks to pc31):

http://www.applecorp.com/aditl/index.htm
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: GreenApple on January 22, 2006, 05:14:04 PM
Quote from: raxo
[url]http://www.applecorp.com/aditl/index.htm[/url]



It says that John did the 'aaahhh's, but I've been told here that Paul did them. Just goes to show that the 'aaahhh's really do sound like John it seems!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: raxo on January 22, 2006, 05:23:25 PM
That's the funny part ... I think they were both.

Here in this thread you can read that  Mike of the "What Goes On" website thought -hope he doesn't now- that it was John. (thanks to The End)

Reply 122:
http://dmbeatles.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-songs/m-1108843947/s-120/
Quote from: raxo
...The right mix is clearly John: John-esq begining of the aaaah, thinner aaaah and in typical high-pitched voice in the middle and an erratic ending of the aaaah segment (very John). However I must admit than sounds a bit like Paul in the middle.

The left mix is not so clear to me but it sounds more like Paul: self-confident and professional beginning of the aaaah, sweet, warmer and lower aaaah in the middle and a polished up ending (professional again) of the aaaah. 8)
...
Ooh you can listen here:
[url]http://www.geocities.com/the_end_gb/dmforum/day.html[/url]


Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: zipp on January 22, 2006, 09:24:43 PM
One man's undeniable evidence is another man's aural illusion.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Sondra on January 22, 2006, 10:01:15 PM
Wait, so does this mean we actually know the real anwer? Who is this person anyway? I'm not in the mood to read through it all right now and if I do read it, I wan't to know if the person actually knows or if it's just an opinion again.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: raxo on January 22, 2006, 10:10:41 PM
I think it's just an opinion ... tho the rest of the information about the recording sessions, interviews and data are quite interesting ... sure you already knew all that but it's an interesting reading, anyway.  :)

I think both John+Paul are in the aaahs ...
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: An Apple Beatle on January 22, 2006, 10:12:45 PM
3:02-3:12
   Paul can be heard doing a faint falsetto "ooo" harmony above John
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: adamzero on January 22, 2006, 10:40:52 PM
I suspect the part was sung by "Faul" the fake Paul McCartney, who took over the real Paul's role after the real Paul died in that car accident ("He blew his mind out in a car").  Don't try to feed me any of that Guiness heir stuff.  We all know EMI (Electric and Musical Industries) is just a front for British Intelligence and that they tried to take over the world with their Tesla death rays and the Beatles.  

I mean, it's obvious, dude!  They were pushing all this peace and love so that when we were unarmed Uncle Joe and MI5 could become our overlords.  The long hair would make the men more effeminate and also mess with their aim.  The LSD--everybody knows that was an army experiment--Uncle Joe and Co. needed a way to get drug use to the masses (a literal "opiate of the masses" since religion was wearing thin).  

John recognized his role in the conspiracy (and tried to put out secret messages--I buried Paul, the Walrus was Paul, etc.), but was given a "minder" when he became too active.  



Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Sondra on January 22, 2006, 10:43:08 PM
Quote from: An_Apple_Beatle
3:02-3:12
   Paul can be heard doing a faint falsetto "ooo" harmony above John
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: An Apple Beatle on January 22, 2006, 11:14:30 PM
Quote from: adamzero
I suspect the part was sung by "Faul" the fake Paul McCartney, who took over the real Paul's role after the real Paul died in that car accident ("He blew his mind out in a car").  Don't try to feed me any of that Guiness heir stuff.  We all know EMI (Electric and Musical Industries) is just a front for British Intelligence and that they tried to take over the world with their Tesla death rays and the Beatles.  

I mean, it's obvious, dude!  They were pushing all this peace and love so that when we were unarmed Uncle Joe and MI5 could become our overlords.  The long hair would make the men more effeminate and also mess with their aim.  The LSD--everybody knows that was an army experiment--Uncle Joe and Co. needed a way to get drug use to the masses (a literal "opiate of the masses" since religion was wearing thin).  

John recognized his role in the conspiracy (and tried to put out secret messages--I buried Paul, the Walrus was Paul, etc.), but was given a "minder" when he became too active.  




it does make sense. lol
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: raxo on January 22, 2006, 11:25:03 PM
Yep, but John went too far with the "bigger than Jesus" thing: he nearly said it all ... and that was a big risk to the conspiracy.

Then Paul had to be murdered so that Faul could say (Paul would never have said such a thing) in that interview of the summer of love that he didn't want the young people to take LSD (saying that but wishing another thing was helping to the conspiracy  ;)) ...

... it all fit quite well ... A big LOL here!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Bobber on January 23, 2006, 08:42:21 AM
Quote from: An_Apple_Beatle

it does make sense. lol


Aha! And now tell me, who was the first to put this option forward? Well? Well? (http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9671/5dc9hx.gif) Just listen to The End's soundclip: it John on one channel, Paul on the other.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: raxo on January 23, 2006, 12:03:39 PM
Quote from: Bobber

Aha! And now tell me, who was the first to put this option forward? Well? Well? ([url]http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9671/5dc9hx.gif[/url]) Just listen to The End's soundclip: it John on one channel, Paul on the other.


It was you ... tho, believe me if you want or not, but I visited this thread very late and began to read it from the very beginning and listened to the clips before I finished the reading -because of the arguments- ... and I went to your option without knowing it was already your option ... ;D however, the left channel sounds to me sometimes like Paul, but not always, ... specially at the end of the aaahs.  ??)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on May 15, 2006, 11:22:12 AM
Ha ha!!! Check this out!!! http://www.beatlelinks.net/forums/showthread.php?p=585666

Seems the argument has started to rumble in other Beatle Forums too!!! It all started right here folks! ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Bobber on May 15, 2006, 11:29:57 AM
Still, nobody seems to be certain...

Ehm, do we have to congratulate you, Alan? ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on May 15, 2006, 11:37:18 AM
Quote from: Bobber
Ehm, do we have to congratulate you, Alan? ;D

Nah, I didn't ask the original question so I'm not taking the blame!!! LOL ;D

It's good that exactly the same sort of discussion is going on there too though - life-long fans with firmly held beliefs arguing that it was definitely PAUL or definitely John!;)

Here's something interesting I heard the other day though...

When asked who he would consider as the lead vocalist on A Day In The Life, Paul said that he considered it to be a John AND Paul lead vocal but he went on to say that it was Paul who did the "aaaahs".

So now you know!!! My brother Paul reckons it was Macca!!!! Hee hee - had you all fooled there for a bit I bet!!!! LOL! ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Bobber on May 15, 2006, 11:42:46 AM
You had me. Very funny... ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Kate on May 16, 2006, 07:20:17 PM
Quote from: The_End
Ha ha!!! Check this out!!! [url]http://www.beatlelinks.net/forums/showthread.php?p=585666[/url]

Seems the argument has started to rumble in other Beatle Forums too!!! It all started right here folks! ;D


Funny I too saw this thread yesterday....but seriously now.....it was Ringo  :P ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: zipp on June 18, 2006, 09:26:51 PM
I put on When I'm 64 today to celebrate Paul's 64th birthday

Then I let the record run on to the end.

And when it got to the famous 'Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahs' I heard Paul and not John!

So that's it, The End has finally nobbled my brain into believing him!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on June 19, 2006, 05:56:03 PM
It's John. There's just no way it's Paul.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: apple sauce on June 29, 2006, 01:47:26 AM
Why did the BBC refuse to play the song due to it's supposed "drug" reference, but totally miss the With A Little Help From My Friends the Getting "high" refernce?
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Bobber on June 29, 2006, 07:23:30 AM
Maybe because Ringo sang it.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: raxo on September 15, 2006, 11:16:30 PM
Quote from: 297
It was you ... tho, believe me if you want or not, but I visited this thread very late and began to read it from the very beginning and listened to the clips before I finished the reading -because of the arguments- ... and I went to your option without knowing it was already your option ... ;D however, the left channel sounds to me sometimes like Paul, but not always, ... specially at the end of the aaahs.  ??)

Was Bobber the first one who suggested it was both of them?  ??):
http://dmbeatles.com/forums/b-albums/m-1116789808/s-105/   (reply 106)

That was an interesting thread, by the way  :D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: SgtPeppers67 on September 27, 2006, 07:35:14 PM
Sounds like George a bit.


I used to think it was John, but after hearing the samples it sounds like paul or george.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on September 27, 2006, 10:52:04 PM
I am sworn not to add any further comments to this thread, so you go ahead and endorse the vocal as Paul's!! ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Sondra on December 20, 2006, 12:29:35 PM
Okay, I've been up half the night reading Geoff Emerick's brilliant book and I come to page 152 and I quote:

Although the overdubs to the middle section were being done separately from the main body of the song, it had already been edited into the fourtrack master, which made Richard's job of dropping in and out a bit tricky. Paul's vocal, for example, was being dropped into the same track that contained John's lead vocal, and there was a very tight drop-out point between the two--between Paul's singing"...and I went into a dream" and John's "ahhh" that starts the next section. Richard was quite paranoid about it--with good reason--and I remember him asking me to get on the talkback mic to explain the situation to Paul and ask him not to deviate from the phrasing that he had used on the guide vocal.  I was really impressed when Richard did that--I thought it showed great maturity to be proactive that way. John's vocal, after all, had such great emotion, and it also had tape echo on it.  The thought of having to do it again and re-create the atmosphere was daunting...not to mention what John's reaction would have been!  Someone's head would have been bitten off, and it most likely would have been mine.  But Paul, ever professional, did heed the warning, and he made certain to end the last word distinctly in order to give Richard sufficient time to drop out before John's vocal came back in.  Listening carefully, you can actually hear Paul slightly rush the vocal; he even adds a little "ah" to the end of the word "dream" giving it a very clipped ending.

(dance)(dance)(dance)

(Even though I was wrong, I'm greatly relieved!)  
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: GreenApple on December 20, 2006, 12:53:55 PM
Quote from: 216
...John's "ahhh" that starts the next section.

Always thought it sounded more like John. And thought so until some doubts were cast in this forum, but still thought it was more like John until this confirmation. At last we know!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on December 20, 2006, 12:55:13 PM
This is absolutely over-whelming evidence for the John argument.

However, I still do not hear John - even if I am wrong (and on this evidence I probably am!) I still hear Paul's voice!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Bobber on December 20, 2006, 01:01:17 PM
Quote from: 360
This is absolutely over-whelming evidence for the John argument.

However, I still do not hear John - even if I am wrong (and on this evidence I probably am!) I still hear Paul's voice!

Your cold has gotten to your ears, Alan.  ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on December 20, 2006, 01:14:36 PM
I should have bloody asked Macca when I met him - I'd believe HIM if he told me it was John!!!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on December 20, 2006, 01:16:54 PM
Yes, yes you should have >:(
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: An Apple Beatle on December 20, 2006, 02:17:18 PM
Quote from: 216
Okay, I've been up half the night reading Geoff Emerick's brilliant book and I come to page 152 and I quote:

Although the overdubs to the middle section were being done separately from the main body of the song, it had already been edited into the fourtrack master, which made Richard's job of dropping in and out a bit tricky. Paul's vocal, for example, was being dropped into the same track that contained John's lead vocal, and there was a very tight drop-out point between the two--between Paul's singing"...and I went into a dream" and John's "ahhh" that starts the next section. Richard was quite paranoid about it--with good reason--and I remember him asking me to get on the talkback mic to explain the situation to Paul and ask him not to deviate from the phrasing that he had used on the guide vocal.  I was really impressed when Richard did that--I thought it showed great maturity to be proactive that way. John's vocal, after all, had such great emotion, and it also had tape echo on it.  Tghe thought of having to do it again and re-create the atmosphere was daunting...not to mention what John's reaction would have been!  Someone's head would have been bitten off, and it most likely would have been mine.  But Paul, ever professional, did heed the warning, and he made certain to end the last word distinctly in order to give Richard sufficient time to drop out before John's vocal came back in.  Listening carefully, you can actually hear Paul slightly rush the vocal; he even adds a little "ah" to the end of the word "dream" giving it a very clipped ending.

(dance)(dance)(dance)

(Even though I was wrong, I'm greatly relieved!)  

 :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

I trust my ears better again at last. heheh
Thanks for thr info Sandra.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Kevin on December 20, 2006, 02:34:59 PM
I was rereading the arguements. I never met Mr Charlie but I would like to see him eat a little humble pie. Ydoll would be happy.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Bobber on December 20, 2006, 02:43:03 PM
Mmm, great read. A lot of members left in this thread. Mr C even fell in love with a moderator! Those were the good days, sigh, when people fell in love with moderators... Can't believe we've come to the end of a thread...
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Indica on December 20, 2006, 05:19:17 PM
I bless thy closure on such a holy thread.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: adamzero on December 20, 2006, 07:02:39 PM
Sandra has found the key to the Holy Grail!  It's almost as if Geoff Emerick had read this board and answered our questions exactly.  It's the Paul punch-in that seals the deal.  It's so good you want to think it's Paul still singing.  

Good job, Geoff.  And of course Richard!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on December 20, 2006, 07:11:28 PM
It's so weird - as much as I honestly would like it to be John, not least for my sanity, I just don't hear him! I can only state what I hear and to my ears it's Paul!

I'm off to join the Paul McCartney Forum!!!!!!!!!! ;)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on December 20, 2006, 07:23:27 PM
Here, have a listen and judge for yourselves: http://www.geocities.com/the_end_gb/dmforum/day.html
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Indica on December 20, 2006, 07:46:10 PM
That does sound like Paul - especially the second sort of ahhh's where he goes up a notch. Has Mccartney's warmth and range.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: zipp on December 20, 2006, 09:49:53 PM
Oh no!
Just when I'd more or les convinced myself that TE was right I now have to go back to hearing Lennon again.
I'm going to wait a few days before putting on Pepper again...and see what I hear!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Sondra on December 21, 2006, 04:27:10 AM
Alan's having a hard time accepting this. I can tell.  ;) The thing about it is that if you read the book you can see that there is no way in hell that Emerick would ever give John credit for something Paul actually did. He seems like he's down right in love with Paul! In a manly sort of way of course. I don't doubt him for a moment. He dedicated 16 pages to the recording of A Day in the Life. He's got some memory that guy.  
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Wordno on December 21, 2006, 04:43:47 AM
I won't accept either because it simply does not sound like John. Those 'Aaahs' sound almost exactly like the opening to 'Lovely Rita'. Plus when you hear the link that Alan gave, it just doesn't sound like John's high pitched vocal in the song, its a bit of a lower pitch. I mean listen to the 'Version two - 5.1 mix rear left segment' after the 'aaahs', John starts singing and his voice does not match the 'Aaahs', the 'aaahs' are too deep and it sounds like Paul. I'm with Alan, I'm still convinced it was Paul.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: adamzero on December 21, 2006, 03:30:37 PM
I've got the answer.  Paul and Richard screwed up the punch-in--without Geoff knowing.  So they rerecorded John's Aaah with Paul singing it.  Maybe there was even a little tape bleed from John's performance.  

Poor Geoff, he still doesn't know.  
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on December 21, 2006, 04:13:57 PM
I actually think it's paul now.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on December 21, 2006, 04:14:32 PM
I'm sorry but when he does the second 'ahhhh' it's paul.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: raxo on December 22, 2006, 01:34:40 AM
Quote from: 9
I've got the answer.  Paul and Richard screwed up the punch-in--without Geoff knowing.  So they rerecorded John's Aaah with Paul singing it.  Maybe there was even a little tape bleed from John's performance.  

Poor Geoff, he still doesn't know.  

... or maybe that John's performance is played at the same time as Paul's!  8)
They had to sign that part together ... there were two parts (John's versus, Paul's middle eight) and this was the joint 8) ... or at least that's what I want to believe! ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on October 26, 2007, 05:57:18 PM
Another site where this discussion has been had... http://xywe.com/music/145-828-re-geoff-emerick-claims-a-day-in-the-life-read.shtml
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: zipp on October 26, 2007, 07:30:29 PM
This used to be my favourite part of my favourite song on my favourite album.
And now I daren't listen to it!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The End on October 26, 2007, 09:54:49 PM
Hee hee! ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on October 27, 2007, 08:54:06 PM
It always sounded like JOHN LENNON to me....for me, anything else is baseless and attention-grabbing supposition.

(and besides, WHO CARES who sang a tiny snippet...it's the MOST IMPORTANT song on Pepper--no matter who sang "ahhhhhh")

but not to be opinionated or anything..lol
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: thefadedline on June 22, 2008, 03:39:51 AM
Is this debate closed?

Sorry if it's already solved but I found this earlier:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=X7g6QsJD4fM&feature=related
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Sondra on June 22, 2008, 04:36:10 AM
Heh. If I've learned anything from being a member of this forum it's this: This debate will never be closed! Unless one day a video of the actual recording session somehow surfaces, there will continue to be those who just simply do not believe the evidence. No matter how compelling the evidence may be! Ahem...Geoff Emmerick. Maybe a confirmation from Paul himself would do it, but Alan dropped the ball on that one.  ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: fendertele on June 22, 2008, 10:05:07 AM
Quote from: 4
Is this debate closed?

Sorry if it's already solved but I found this earlier:

[url]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=X7g6QsJD4fM&feature=related[/url]


i always considered it to be paul but that clip is making me think otherwise the tone of ahhh's and then the tone of his voice when it comes back in after it  sound very alike.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: DaveRam on June 22, 2008, 11:16:04 AM
Paul can sound like John " Let Me Roll it " showed that .
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: fendertele on June 22, 2008, 11:19:01 AM
yeah i didnt mean the sound of his voice but more the tone or Eq of the voice, The Ahh's and Lennons verses have a lot of treble and not much low end and seem to fit together where as Macca's section is very Bassy
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: DaveRam on June 22, 2008, 11:36:58 AM
It sounds like John at the beging but about a few seconds in it seemed less high and more Paul .
But as i'm going a bit deaf it's hard for me to be sure (rolleyes)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: An Apple Beatle on June 22, 2008, 11:47:02 AM
Man thats a great vocal track for perusal...I thus fully take applause on being completely right all along! ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: thefadedline on June 22, 2008, 08:11:33 PM
I really don't know what to believe. It sounds more like Lennon to me. But then, you hear Paul take a deep breath at the end of his section, as to get ready for the 'aaah' section.

Here's the link agai: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=X7g6QsJD4fM&feature=related.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: alexis on June 23, 2008, 01:35:40 AM
Quote from: 758

i always considered it to be paul but that clip is making me think otherwise the tone of ahhh's and then the tone of his voice when it comes back in after it  sound very alike.

Always sounded like John to me, and in the isolated vocal too!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: pc31 on June 23, 2008, 02:18:05 AM
i always maintained it was john.......listen....EEIrHyaqC6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEIrHyaqC6)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: thefadedline on June 25, 2008, 12:40:21 AM
I think it's Paul. Listen to it really loudly.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Geoff on June 25, 2008, 04:16:44 AM
I'd always thought it was John before today, and I still thinks it him- but I'm not nearly as sure as I was before.

(dunce)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: thefadedline on June 27, 2008, 12:26:24 PM
A few things make me think it's Paul...

Firstly, the 'aaahs' and Paul's section seem to be on the one take. You can hear him take a deep breath right before it. Plus, although the tone of the voice does have a Lennon-type presence, it's very much kept in tune, something which Lennon wasn't great at with the higher notes (see I Am The Walrus). Basically, it has more aspects of a traditional vocalist, rather than that of a snarling, raw Lennon.

I really think it's Paul and I'd pay to find out!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: cubanheel on July 18, 2008, 12:24:23 PM
... I think, she says in a v v small scared voice...[size=9]it's John[/size]. Help, I've opened a huge can of worms. Please don't arrest me and put me in jail, it's just my opinion.(afraid1)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: PaulieBear on July 18, 2008, 02:19:24 PM
SO PAUL
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Okay on July 29, 2008, 06:55:46 PM
John imo.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Andy Smith on August 30, 2008, 02:43:05 PM
this might shed some light, A Day in the Life vocals isolated! :)
still sounds like paul doing the ahh's to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7g6QsJD4fM
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: pc31 on August 30, 2008, 03:32:37 PM
if you listen closer you'll find the paul bit was inserted into the middle after john vocals...listen to the tone difference in the background...
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: pc31 on August 30, 2008, 03:38:41 PM
watch the results on an equalizer....
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: An Apple Beatle on August 30, 2008, 04:55:10 PM
John...no doubts all along.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: pc31 on August 31, 2008, 12:13:44 AM
it matches the mystery tour ahhs.....
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: pc31 on February 07, 2009, 04:35:00 PM
fMCeN6ZA3V4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMCeN6ZA3V4)http://www.applecorp.com/aditl/index.htm
mono mixbTy1vhUKt98 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTy1vhUKt98)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: pc31 on February 07, 2009, 04:48:12 PM
outtake of it....7eimGqkANdk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eimGqkANdk)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: fendertele on February 09, 2009, 10:15:21 PM
Quote from: 284
outtake of it....7eimGqkANdk ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eimGqkANdk[/url])


A think that may settle it there - he misses his cue and then says ohhhh sh*t in its place ? ive always thought it sounds like Paul and similiat his voice he sings in on Coming up almost chipmunky sounding :)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Mairi on February 11, 2009, 12:49:54 AM
Anyone who thinks it's Paul is delusional! It's clearly John's voice. It's got that nasal quality about it.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: beatlesgirl7 on February 11, 2009, 01:20:54 AM
Quote from: 360
This is absolutely over-whelming evidence for the John argument.

However, I still do not hear John - even if I am wrong (and on this evidence I probably am!) I still hear Paul's voice!

lol! same here. i just figured out that i came to the conclusion it was paul...now i think its john? i'm confused. oh well :)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Sondra on February 11, 2009, 02:39:32 AM
I see no reason to believe Geoff Emerick would lie, but who knows.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: on February 16, 2009, 12:49:34 AM
Just joined, so forgive me if I've missed some previous arguments. However, I think the whole matter was answered in Geoff Emerick's book, "Here, There and Everywhere." On page 152 he goes into some detail about preventing a potential overdub problem at the  "...dream/aaahh" point. He's very clear that immediately after Paul's "....went into a dream" John begins his "aaahhh." Emereick's credibility is solid and he was in a position to know what was going on with this song.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: pc31 on February 16, 2009, 02:42:20 AM
Quote from: 1920
Just joined, so forgive me if I've missed some previous arguments. However, I think the whole matter was answered in Geoff Emerick's book, "Here, There and Everywhere." On page 152 he goes into some detail about preventing a potential overdub problem at the  "...dream/aaahh" point. He's very clear that immediately after Paul's "....went into a dream" John begins his "aaahhh." Emereick's credibility is solid and he was in a position to know what was going on with this song.
you and i will get along great... ;)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: An Apple Beatle on February 16, 2009, 12:55:49 PM
Geoff and the isolated parts I got, prove the result to me. ;)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Bobber on February 16, 2009, 12:57:52 PM
Quote from: 284
it matches the mystery tour ahhs.....

True. But who sings that?  ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: pc31 on February 17, 2009, 12:37:14 AM
i'll go to my grave believing that john does in fact do the aaahhhs in a day in the life...never mind the fact that paul got this masterpeice banned by the bbc for adding a drug reference into a totally drug free referenced main body......i do think i heard paul in the background singing ha ha ha not aaaahhhh...... :P
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Sondra on February 17, 2009, 12:43:07 AM
Quote from: 63

True. But who sings that?  ;D


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 ;)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Kevin on February 17, 2009, 10:15:39 AM
Quote from: 284
i'll go to my grave believing that john does in fact do the aaahhhs in a day in the life...never mind the fact that paul got this masterpeice banned by the bbc for adding a drug reference into a totally drug free referenced main body......i do think i heard paul in the background singing ha ha ha not aaaahhhh...... :P

"I'd love to turn you on" followed by climatic orchestral rush?
The way Paul emphasises (sp) the word "smoke" really bugs me. Yes, yes, you're very clever and we get the point.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: pc31 on February 18, 2009, 01:23:45 AM
he was like a little miss showing her fannie wasn't he????? ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on March 21, 2011, 07:58:17 PM
The way Paul emphasises (sp) the word "smoke" really bugs me. Yes, yes, you're very clever and we get the point.


he was like a little miss showing her fannie wasn't he????? ;D


Would you have preferred Paul emphasizing the word "hat?"

The Beatles - A Day In The Life (RARE) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nftY197p8Uw#)



;)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Marvin on April 23, 2011, 05:34:35 PM
Paul doing A DAY IN THE LIFE live

paul McCartney Live at Anfield-A Day In The life 17/18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkzHrZI_nr0#)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Bobber on April 23, 2011, 05:57:40 PM
Paul doing A DAY IN THE LIFE live

Now who's doing the aaaah's? ha2ha
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on May 13, 2011, 08:54:04 PM
Now who's doing the aaaah's? ha2ha

Well, I listened very closely and I never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: In My Life on May 14, 2011, 06:41:20 PM
Well, I listened very closely and I never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...never could see any other way...

Did you know this was coming the first time you listened to Sgt. Pepper? Must have caused a lot of "huhs?" in its day.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on May 14, 2011, 09:40:44 PM
My 1967 Capitol mono album didn't have this.  It didn't have the 15 kHz tone either.  A friend who had the UK album played it for me a few years later.  I heard the tone too.  Supposedly John wanted it put there to frighten dogs, like a dog whistle.  But anyone with normal hearing can hear it.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: In My Life on May 15, 2011, 01:14:26 AM
My 1967 Capitol mono album didn't have this.  It didn't have the 15 kHz tone either.  A friend who had the UK album played it for me a few years later.  I heard the tone too.  Supposedly John wanted it put there to frighten dogs, like a dog whistle.  But anyone with normal hearing can hear it.

My male Labrador woke up out of a sound sleep for that tone the first time I played the CD but I can't get the other three dogs to notice it. They are too busy causing trouble to concentrate.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Bobber on May 15, 2011, 01:26:35 PM
Did you know this was coming the first time you listened to Sgt. Pepper? Must have caused a lot of "huhs?" in its day.

Did you know what it says when you play it backwards?
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Marvin on May 15, 2011, 03:09:39 PM
Did you know what it says when you play it backwards?
Paul is dead ?
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: In My Life on May 15, 2011, 03:55:33 PM
Did you know what it says when you play it backwards?

Not sure exactly what it is but isn't something dirty? I'll ask my dog if he can hear it.  ;)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on May 15, 2011, 08:32:48 PM
Did you know what it says when you play it backwards?

"That's me you hear doing the aaaahs."
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Bobber on May 16, 2011, 09:07:06 AM
Not sure exactly what it is but isn't something dirty? I'll ask my dog if he can hear it.  ;)


The Beatles - Sgt Pepper's Inner Groove (first forwards, then backwards) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaXnqw-Zv0Y#)

Now, is it something dirty?
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: peterbell1 on May 16, 2011, 09:31:41 AM
The Beatles - Sgt Pepper's Inner Groove (first forwards, then backwards) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaXnqw-Zv0Y#[/url])

Now, is it something dirty?


I never do see any other way. We're ordinary supermen!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: In My Life on May 16, 2011, 01:58:35 PM
The Beatles - Sgt Pepper's Inner Groove (first forwards, then backwards) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaXnqw-Zv0Y#[/url])

Now, is it something dirty?


Well now, that was disappointing.  ;)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on May 16, 2011, 07:38:44 PM
Now who's doing the aaaah's? ha2ha


So that's that.  The run-out groove, played forward or backward, doesn't answer the question.


15 kHz tone...

モスキート音:15KHz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxSHs6fZlJg#)



But that doesn't help either.  ;)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Bobber on May 17, 2011, 07:17:29 AM
Well now, that was disappointing.  ;)

Was it now? Remember, this could be the version recorded FORWARD. We'll never know.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: In My Life on May 17, 2011, 07:23:09 AM
Disappointing because I was expecting something dirty!  ;D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Bobber on May 17, 2011, 07:26:21 AM
We'll f*** you like we're supermen?
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: In My Life on May 18, 2011, 07:18:08 PM
Quote
15 kHz tone...

Uh oh, I think I'm starting to lose my hearing.

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: AppleScruffy96 on May 18, 2011, 08:36:10 PM
15 kHz tone...

モスキート音:15KHz ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxSHs6fZlJg#[/url])


That was painful... ha2ha
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Dcazz on January 16, 2013, 01:08:39 PM
There has been a great deal of debate surrounding just who sang the "aaaaaahhs" after Paul's line "somebody spoke and I went into a dream" from A Day In The Life. Well, Mr Charlie has sent me some evidence which, I believe, finally reveals the truth... it's Paul!

Now you can judge for yourselves - I've uploaded the two clips!! Please let me know what you think.

[url]http://www.geocities.com/the_end_gb/dmforum/day.html[/url] ([url]http://www.geocities.com/the_end_gb/dmforum/day.html[/url])
Thank you, Now I'm singing the Ahh's!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on February 12, 2013, 07:49:10 AM
Thank you, Now I'm singing the Ahh's!


"No you're not!" (said little Nicola)...


The Beatles - A Day In The Life (Track 1 - Vocal, Piano Track) 4-Track Multitrack Master (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNNTu1kddBk#)


A Day in the Life Multitrack "Ahhhs..." John or Paul?.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxQ7MM42Q-s#)



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Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: zipp on February 13, 2013, 10:35:20 AM
Definitely John with Paul and maybe others doing some oohs in the background.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Zander on March 05, 2013, 06:22:08 AM
The prominent voice is John - with Paul doing the weird harmonies.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Badgirl66 on March 05, 2013, 10:50:55 AM
that was me after heat stroke
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Dcazz on March 05, 2013, 03:06:27 PM
that was me after heat stroke
I'm glad you recovered!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: The Swine on March 05, 2013, 03:30:55 PM
I'm glad you recovered!

did he?
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: BLEEN on April 19, 2013, 01:09:38 PM
This is such an interesting thread, I would never have given it a second thought before. It does sound like Paul in spots, but I still think it's John.

On a related note, I've always thought John sounded just like Paul on ONE single word in Girl, the word 'pleasure' at 1:34 - anyone else think so? Or is it time for me to have a hearing test? :P


The Beatles - Girl (Mono) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4FZy3pWfWU#)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Casbah on April 20, 2013, 03:26:15 PM
Well I'd like to throw my hat in the ring and say it is John. I base that opinion on the ahh's having a slight edge to them. Paul's edge was always a but softer. ("You tell likes thinking I can't see!")

But what makes it clear to me is John had a slight tendency to slide in and out of pitch, for effect,  which he does here.


 roll:) :-\ guess someone will have to ask Paul.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 21, 2013, 01:12:04 AM
roll:) :-\ guess someone will have to ask Paul.


OK.  Hey Paul!  Was that you?


The Beatles - Lovely Rita [Vocals Master Track] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqzOvdXvOmo#ws)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: nimrod on April 21, 2013, 02:40:21 AM
I always thought it was John, then about a year ago I decided no, its Paul...........now I think its John again :D
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on April 21, 2013, 02:48:38 AM
I always thought it was John, then about a year ago I decided no, its Paul...........now I think its John again :D

Well, in that case you can say "It really doesn't matter if I'm wrong I'm right."
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: In My Life on July 05, 2013, 04:46:22 AM
I always thought it was John, then about a year ago I decided no, its Paul...........now I think its John again :D

But what do you think now?  ;)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on July 05, 2013, 10:13:36 PM
Perhaps if you heard it backward...


The Beatles - A Day in the Life (Reversed) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p6qxrY3I8g#)



Clear now?
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: nimrod on July 05, 2013, 11:48:27 PM
But what do you think now?  ;)

John.....................no Paul,              John...................Pau....l
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on July 06, 2013, 12:15:48 AM
John.....................no Paul,              John...................Pau....l


Now try the isolated bass track, Kev...


The Beatles A Day in The Life Isolated bass and drums (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccUwSrDhWRo#)




 ;)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: In My Life on July 06, 2013, 12:34:53 AM
John.....................no Paul,              John...................Pau....l

Me too!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: nimrod on July 06, 2013, 12:37:03 AM
Me too!

It was The Beatles Kelley ;D


nice one Baz ;)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: In My Life on July 06, 2013, 12:59:55 AM
It was The Beatles Kelley ;D

There you go! But really, I think of this question every time I hear the song. Could their voices have been mixed together; John during the first little bit and then Paul? I agree with what Casbah said about the edginess but toward the end it sounds more ethereal. But when I listen to it again I'll probably think something else!
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Dcazz on July 06, 2013, 01:22:17 AM
"No you're not!" (said little Nicola)...


The Beatles - A Day In The Life (Track 1 - Vocal, Piano Track) 4-Track Multitrack Master ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNNTu1kddBk#[/url])


A Day in the Life Multitrack "Ahhhs..." John or Paul?.wmv ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxQ7MM42Q-s#[/url])I think the Ahh's are John and the Ooo's are Paul. The Ooo's remind me of some of the Ooo's from other songs  that Paul did.



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Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on July 06, 2013, 04:09:59 AM
think the Ahh's are John and the Ooo's are Paul. The Ooo's remind me of some of the Ooo's from other songs  that Paul did.


(It's always fun dissecting out what you're saying, Dave.  :) )


Oo You // McCartney // Track 8 (Stereo) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnRjgm3uffA#)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on July 06, 2013, 04:13:17 AM
nice one Baz ;)

More guitar!



Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: nimrod on July 06, 2013, 07:35:18 AM
There you go! But really, I think of this question every time I hear the song. Could their voices have been mixed together; John during the first little bit and then Paul? I agree with what Casbah said about the edginess but toward the end it sounds more ethereal. But when I listen to it again I'll probably think something else!

maybe it was the walrus
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on July 06, 2013, 08:32:42 PM
(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/103/a/c/i_am_the_walrus_by_karkajou1993-d3dwi81.jpg)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Dcazz on July 07, 2013, 07:31:32 PM
  :)
(It's always fun dissecting out what you're saying, Dave.  :) )


Oo You // McCartney // Track 8 (Stereo) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnRjgm3uffA#[/url])
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: nimrod on June 07, 2014, 11:15:32 AM
whatever we all think, Geoff was there;

Although the overdubs to the middle section were being done separately from the main body of the song, it had already been edited into the fourtrack master, which made Richard's job of dropping in and out a bit tricky. Paul's vocal, for example, was being dropped into the same track that contained John's lead vocal, and there was a very tight drop-out point between the two--between Paul's singing"...and I went into a dream" and John's "ahhh" that starts the next section. Richard was quite paranoid about it--with good reason--and I remember him asking me to get on the talkback mic to explain the situation to Paul and ask him not to deviate from the phrasing that he had used on the guide vocal.  I was really impressed when Richard did that--I thought it showed great maturity to be proactive that way. John's vocal, after all, had such great emotion, and it also had tape echo on it.  The thought of having to do it again and re-create the atmosphere was daunting...not to mention what John's reaction would have been!  Someone's head would have been bitten off, and it most likely would have been mine.  But Paul, ever professional, did heed the warning, and he made certain to end the last word distinctly in order to give Richard sufficient time to drop out before John's vocal came back in.  Listening carefully, you can actually hear Paul slightly rush the vocal; he even adds a little "ah" to the end of the word "dream" giving it a very clipped ending.


 
Thank you Sondra
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on June 07, 2014, 09:19:31 PM
Yes, Geoff Emerick was there but his memory has failed him.  That was Paul's part of the song, including the ahhs.  The "little 'ah'" following the word "dream" that Geoff Emerick mentioned sounds, to me, like Paul taking a breath before he sings the ahhs.  I don't hear any "very clipped ending" at all...


THE BEATLES - A day in the life (track vocal G track instru D) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upd3sT8rTfE#)


A Day in the Life (The Beatles) vocal track. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI-5SDVqax8#)


The Beatles - A Day In The Life (Mono) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsB6IiqAq9k#)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: nimrod on June 07, 2014, 11:28:45 PM
Quote
Yes, Geoff Emerick was there but his memory has failed him

I really don't think so Baz, (Engineers don't forget their work  ;D) he wrote pages about the recording of ADITL, even mentioning minute detail like Paul adding the little 'ah' at the end of dream and leaving the little gap, and Richard being very concerned about getting crossover with John's bit......Geoff seems to me to remember it very well.

It can sound like Paul, and it can sound like John, opinion is split, but this from Geoffs book (the actual engineer) confirms who sang the ahhhhhh's

On top of that Geoffs book is very pro Paul, which is ok, but he wouldnt credit something to John, that Paul had done.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: In My Life on June 08, 2014, 01:51:08 AM
On top of that Geoffs book is very pro Paul, which is ok, but he wouldnt credit something to John, that Paul had done.

I don't remember the part about the ahh's (I read the book before I came here and learned about the debate) but I do remember the Paul bias. It was very obvious. He basically acted like he barely knew John.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on June 08, 2014, 02:04:24 AM
(Engineers don't forget their work  ;D)


Well, this one evidently did.  Here's Take 1.  Paul forgets to sing the ahhs...


The Beatles - A Day In The Life (Take 1 w/ Narration) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZP2RQ0e2dM#)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Moogmodule on June 08, 2014, 02:23:25 AM
I don't remember the part about the ahh's (I read the book before I came here and learned about the debate) but I do remember the Paul bias. It was very obvious. He basically acted like he barely knew John.

As an antidote to that read Ken Scott's autobiography. He seemed to like George most of all. He said Paul wanted to be liked by everyone but was very selective to who he returned friendship. He acknowledged Paul's excellence as a musician though.


Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Moogmodule on June 08, 2014, 02:26:52 AM
Well, this one evidently did.  Here's Take 1.  Paul forgets to sing the ahhs...


The Beatles - A Day In The Life (Take 1 w/ Narration) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZP2RQ0e2dM#[/url])


I must admit I've always assumed it's John. It sounded like it to my ear. But I've never forensically examined it.  Giving it a listen in light of what you say the attack on the note sounds like John, but the sustain sounds like Paul.

Unfortunately my YouTube won't let me open your link. Something about it not being available here.

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on June 08, 2014, 02:34:30 AM
Unfortunately my YouTube won't let me open your link. Something about it not being available here.


Try this one, Moog...


A Day In the Life ( Take 1) - The Beatles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuKeN2YySMQ#)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: nimrod on June 08, 2014, 02:34:48 AM
As an antidote to that read Ken Scott's autobiography. He seemed to like George most of all. He said Paul wanted to be liked by everyone but was very selective to who he returned friendship. He acknowledged Paul's excellence as a musician though.

Its ok to prefer a Beatle imo, it doesn't bother me at all that Geoff glorifies Paul

Paul deserves glorification  ha2ha

my take from Mark Lewisohn is that he leans toward John
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Moogmodule on June 08, 2014, 02:41:16 AM
Its ok to prefer a Beatle imo, it doesn't bother me at all that Geoff glorifies Paul

Paul deserves glorification  ha2ha

my take from Mark Lewisohn is that he leans toward John

Yes. And it's natural that if one was friendlier toward you than the others than you'd remember that person more fondly in later years. Seems like Paul and Geoff got on well but George and John might not have with Geoff to the same extent. Just normal cut and thrust of working relationships.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Moogmodule on June 08, 2014, 02:46:05 AM
Try this one, Moog...


A Day In the Life ( Take 1) - The Beatles ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuKeN2YySMQ#[/url])


Ta HG. That worked

It does sound like Paul forgot to come in on them.

I still though think I'm hearing a John sound in them.

I can see this could drive me nutty.

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on June 08, 2014, 02:59:54 AM
I can see this could drive me nutty.

 ;)

Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Hello Goodbye on August 23, 2014, 05:05:10 AM
The Beatles  Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise)/A Day In The Life   1967 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY3tueApPl0#)
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: KEROUAC on December 04, 2014, 06:02:54 PM
You're all wrong.

It was Mal.

He was quite a gifted singer you know. He also helped finish off most of The Beatles classics.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Bobber on December 04, 2014, 07:16:23 PM
As a matter of fact, that is according to Mal, he helped with writing Fixing A Hole. He was promised a songwriting credit, but didn't get it.
Title: Re: A Day In The Life - The Truth At Last!
Post by: Moogmodule on December 04, 2014, 08:11:18 PM
 Maybe it was Mal who really replaced Paul after he was killed  :o