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Re: The White Album as a Single Album...
« Reply #80 on: December 19, 2007, 08:00:25 AM »

Including I Feel Fine and She's A Woman certainly would have helped Beatles For Sale.
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Re: The White Album as a Single Album...
« Reply #81 on: December 19, 2007, 09:43:34 AM »

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Including I Feel Fine and She's A Woman certainly would have helped Beatles For Sale.

I'd agree with that one, and only that one. But that's hardly 'all the way through their career' though.
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« Reply #82 on: December 20, 2007, 11:46:34 PM »

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I'd agree with that one, and only that one. But that's hardly 'all the way through their career' though.


"I Want to Hold Your Hand"/"This Boy" and "She Loves You"/"I'll Get You" wouldn't have helped With the Beatles?  

"I Feel Fine" / "She's a Woman" you've copped to.  

"We Can Work It Out"/"Day Tripper" wouldn't have helped Rubber Soul?  

"Paperback Writer"/"Rain" wouldn't have helped Revolver?

"Penny Lane" / "Strawberry Fields Forever" wouldn't have helped Pepper?

"Lady Madonna"/"The Inner Light" and "Hey Jude"/"Revolution" wouldn't have helped the White Album?

"Don't Let Me Down" + "The Ballad of John and Yoko"/"Old Brown Shoe" wouldn't have helped Let it Be?

Come on, Blue.  

Come.  On.

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Re: The White Album as a Single Album...
« Reply #83 on: December 21, 2007, 12:28:24 AM »

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"I Want to Hold Your Hand"/"This Boy" and "She Loves You"/"I'll Get You" wouldn't have helped With the Beatles?  

"I Feel Fine" / "She's a Woman" you've copped to.  

"We Can Work It Out"/"Day Tripper" wouldn't have helped Rubber Soul?  

"Paperback Writer"/"Rain" wouldn't have helped Revolver?

"Penny Lane" / "Strawberry Fields Forever" wouldn't have helped Pepper?

"Lady Madonna"/"The Inner Light" and "Hey Jude"/"Revolution" wouldn't have helped the White Album?

"Don't Let Me Down" + "The Ballad of John and Yoko"/"Old Brown Shoe" wouldn't have helped Let it Be?

Come on, Blue.  

Come.  On.

Love, wal

Actually, no. I don't agree. Those albums didn't need any help. All you've done is mention singles that weren't on albums. Do you think those albums were lacking, and needed them? I don't. Only Beatles For Sale could have benefited. IMO, of course. Happy Xmas! :)
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Re: The White Album as a Single Album...
« Reply #84 on: December 22, 2007, 08:47:08 PM »

Let's see...

1. Dear Prudence
2. Glass Onion
3. Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da
4. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
5. Happiness Is A Warm Gun
6. Martha My Dear
7. Blackbird
8. I Will
9. Julia
10. Yer Blues
11. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except For Me And My Monkey
12. Sexy Sadie
13. Helter Skelter
14. Savoy Truffle

But The White Album wouldn't be The White Album if it wasn't a double album...
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Re: The White Album as a Single Album...
« Reply #85 on: May 19, 2008, 08:35:41 PM »

Changing the WA is, of course, sacrilegious  ;)

Side One:

1. Back In The USSR
2. Dear Prudence
3. I'm So Tired
4. Blackbird
5. Happiness Is A Warm Gun
6. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
7. Julia

Side Two:

1. Child Of Nature
2. Revolution (album version)
3. Sexy Sadie
4. Across The Universe
5. Not Guilty
6. All Things Must Pass
7. Helter Skelter
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« Reply #86 on: May 21, 2008, 03:04:30 AM »

14 huh?   I don't normally condone messing around with what is already perfect but just for fun:

 1.  I'm So Tired (because thats my favorite all time Beatle song, so nach)
 2.  Dear Prudence
 3.  Ob La Di Ob La Da
 4.  While My Guitar Gently Weeps
 5.  Blackbird
 6.  Don't Pass Me By
 7.  Why Don't We do it in the Road
 8.  Birthday
 9.  Mother Natures Son
10. Helter Skelter
11. Long Long Long
12. Revolution 1
13. Happiness is a Warm Gun
14. Rocky Raccoon
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Re: The White Album as a Single Album...
« Reply #87 on: June 19, 2008, 11:31:11 PM »

Interesting blog here about creating 'the perfect' White album: http://www.myspace.com/chrissingleton

The idea is to cut the album down to your favourite 12-14 songs...if you could bear it! Blog on the page is called "Your very own White Album".

Bit of a laugh anyway.
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Re: The White Album as a Single Album...
« Reply #88 on: June 20, 2008, 11:53:08 PM »

I think that this thread shows that there is at least a clear consensus on the strongest songs on the White album: Back in the USSR, Dear Prudence, Blackbird, I'm so tired, Happiness is a warm gun, Revolution 1, While my Guitar Gently Weeps, Helter Skelter, Julia and Sexy Sadie are on many lists.
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Re: The White Album as a Single Album...
« Reply #89 on: July 10, 2008, 05:58:02 AM »

1 Back in the USSR
2 Dear Prudence
3 Ob-la-di, ob-la-da
4 While my guitar gently weeps
5 Happiness is a Warm gun
6 I'm so tired
7 Blackbird
8 Why Don't We Do it in The Road?
9 Birthday
10 Yer Blues
11 Helter Skelter
12 Revolution 1
13 Good Night

That would be awesome!
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Re: The White Album as a Single Album...
« Reply #90 on: July 10, 2008, 12:20:24 PM »

You can tell who's from the 'CD' generation  -  no Side 1 and Side 2!!
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Re: The White Album as a Single Album...
« Reply #91 on: July 12, 2008, 10:25:09 PM »

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1 Back in the USSR
2 Dear Prudence
3 Ob-la-di, ob-la-da
4 While my guitar gently weeps
5 Happiness is a Warm gun
6 I'm so tired
7 Blackbird
8 Why Don't We Do it in The Road?
9 Birthday
10 Yer Blues
11 Helter Skelter
12 Revolution 1
13 Good Night

That would be awesome!

that's quite a nice list, i would have to throw Sexy Sadie in there myself though.
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Re: The White Album as a Single Album...
« Reply #92 on: July 19, 2008, 08:17:58 PM »

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Hope I'm doing this reply correctly.

Blue, perhaps "hurt" is a tough concept to deal with, since their albums were so near perfect.  But think about having the singles on the albums.  What album wouldn't be helped by She Loves You, I Want to Hold Your Hand, etc.?  We Can Work It Out?  Day Tripper?  Keeping those off albums was part of the times -- I'm not arguing that -- but their inclusion helps any album.

My point was, Pepper, cultural landmark that it is, could have been better by adding Penny Lane and SFF.  I'm sorry, but that's a fact.  Someone else can tell you which albums the singles would have gone on, because I don't have the encyclopedic knowledge of recording sessions/release dates.  

But reverse engineer it, for a sec.  Imagine a White Album with Hey Jude, Lady Madonna and Revolution, and make the argument that it would've been better with #9.  Good luck.

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I didn't read every post in this thread, but I think I understand the case you're making.

I don't think there is a steadfast rule about it... sometimes adding the songs would "help", sometimes it would "hurt".   So what do I mean by this?

Well, the flow of an album is sometimes as important as the individual songs it contains, and the inclusion of a (great) song (that might have been a huge hit) that breaks this flow may in fact leave you with an album that is significantly "inferior" to what it was.  A White Album with Hey Jude, Lady Madonna and Revolution might work, but adding Penny Lane and SFF to Sgt Pepper might not, because that album is greater than the sum of it's parts precisely because of how it flows.

Adding Helen Wheels to Band On The Run worked, and fortunately did not disrupt the flow of the album. But the US album Hey Jude was just a bunch of singles and b-sides  had no flow at all. The Ballad of John and Yoko might have ruined Abbey Road or Let It Be. But I like the flow of "Let It Be Naked" better than the original with the inclusion of  "Don't Let Me Down" (which should have been on the original Let It Be).

It's hard to say. If adding the single doesn't break the flow of the album, but enhances it or at least maintains it, it's certainly better to have the popular songs on there. I couldn't imagine Band on the Run without Helen Wheels, or MMT without PL and SFF.

I am intrigued by a White Album with Hey Jude, Lady Madonna and Revolution and without Revolution #9 though....




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Re: The White Album as a Single Album...
« Reply #93 on: July 19, 2008, 08:56:14 PM »

Theres so much good stuff on there it's hard to part with some of it. I didn't count who had more songs than whom, and didn't include a song for Ringo just to give Ringo a song because I think there are much better songs by the others that were left off. I added "Hey Jude" and "Lady  Madonna" and eliminated the "extreme" songs

JJS's White Album:

"Back in the U.S.S.R."              
"Dear Prudence"                      
"While My Guitar Gently Weeps"  
"I'm So Tired"                        
"Blackbird"                                  
"Lady Madonna"                            
"Julia"                                    
"Birthday"                                  
"Sexy Sadie"                                
"Helter Skelter"                        
"Revolution 1"                        
"Hey Jude"



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Re: The White Album as a Single Album...
« Reply #94 on: August 05, 2008, 02:54:37 AM »

I wish I could "play" this thread but I can't.  To me, there's just no "filler" on the White Album.

The "single-album v. double album" discussion reminds me of that scene in Amadeus when, in his critique of Mozart's opera, the emperor tells Mozart that there are "simply too many notes."  To which Mozart replies:  "I don't understand.  There are just as many notes, Majesty, as are required.  Neither more nor less."

I feel the same way about the White Album (".....number nine...number nine...number nine...number nine...").
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Re: The White Album as a Single Album...
« Reply #95 on: August 08, 2008, 10:35:52 PM »

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The "single-album v. double album" discussion reminds me of that scene in Amadeus when, in his critique of Mozart's opera, the emperor tells Mozart that there are "simply too many notes."  To which Mozart replies:  "I don't understand.  There are just as many notes, Majesty, as are required.  Neither more nor less.".

 ;D that's a great line from a great movie!

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Re: The White Album as a Single Album...
« Reply #96 on: September 05, 2008, 02:44:37 AM »

1. Back In The USSR
2. Dear Prudence
3. Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da
4. I Will
5. While My Guitar Gently Weeps
6. Blackbird
7. Julia
8. Birthday
9. Yer Blues
10. Mother Nature's Son
11. Honey Pie
12. Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except Me And My Monkey
13. Helter Skelter
14. Good Night
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Re: The White Album as a Single Album...
« Reply #97 on: December 01, 2008, 08:02:24 PM »

I'm new, but really I'm old.
Hello everyone and here's the album idea

Side 1
Back In the USSR
Dear Prudence
Ob-la-di Ob-la-da
Yer Blues
Blackbird
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Happiness Is A Warm Gun

Side 2
Revolution (single version)
Julia
Helter Skelter
Long Long Long
I'm So Tired
Hey Jude
Good Night

A nice balance which keeps some of the original sequencing ideas and includes the single.  Perhaps Hey
Jude should finish the album, but then you wouldn't have Ringo's track to close it and wish us all a good night.

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Re: The White Album as a Single Album...
« Reply #98 on: December 02, 2008, 08:40:55 AM »

Welcome Kirkbybed. Nice compilation, but personally, I wouldn't include WMGGW. But that's just an opinion.  :)
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Re: The White Album as a Single Album...
« Reply #99 on: December 02, 2008, 12:06:25 PM »

Side 1

1.Back In The U.S.S.R.
2. Dear Prudence
3. Blackbird
4. Glass Onion
5. Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da
6. Sexy Sadie
7. Happiness Is A Warm Gun
8. Martha My Dear
9. I Will
10. Julia

Side 2
1. Revolution 1
2. Mother Nature's Son
3. Yer Blues
4. Everybody's Got Something to Hide...
5. Helter Skelter
6. Long Long Long
7. Honey Pie
8. Savoy Truffle
9. I'm So Tired/Can You Take Me Back..
10. Good Night

This is too long, there's too many tracks to lose though (though as rule a third of cd 1 I think is superflous) and the sequencing is the real genuis - and I consider R9 the centre-piece of the album. So - no, I dont think you can change the White Album into a single without too much sacrifice
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