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Re: The beginnings of Paul McCartney's bass playing
« Reply #120 on: August 13, 2010, 11:13:15 AM »

Thank you very much An Apple Beatle!! ;)

I will send him an email...

Best!! ;)

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Re: The beginnings of Paul McCartney's bass playing
« Reply #121 on: August 13, 2010, 11:27:28 AM »

No worries Xose, tell Terry that Rick the ex-sound engineer from Ryde theatre on the Isle of Wight sends his regards. ;) Shame that place has closed down now.

Continued best wishes on your research. :)
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Re: The beginnings of Paul McCartney's bass playing
« Reply #122 on: August 13, 2010, 01:03:04 PM »

I'll do...

Thank you again!! ;)

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Re: The beginnings of Paul McCartney's bass playing
« Reply #123 on: August 16, 2010, 01:41:14 PM »

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...McCartney seems to use his thumb over the fretboard much more than Lennon and Harrison...


Quote from: Maccaguy
...when Paul purchased his Solid 7, it had a pickguard and controls placed for a right handed guitarist. In order to get around hitting the controls and turning the volume and/or tone up or down, he had to 'sneak' his arm at the strings, almost parallel with the strings and the tailpiece. The easiest way to accomplish this is to raise the body of the guitar up towards his left armpit, and if it's a non-adjustable strap it will rotate the neck of the guitar towards the floor. Even after he removed and replaced those parts with the later pickups, it was how he felt comfortable playing the guitar, so it just became the way he played it.


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...regarding McCartney's bass 'technique', he uses to place his right hand thumb over the strings and his hand palm 'touching' the neck..., doesn't he??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obFcsEtFIKA ...


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Re: The beginnings of Paul McCartney's bass playing
« Reply #124 on: September 27, 2010, 01:34:52 PM »

This is Lennon's Rick..., isn't it??  ???





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Re: The beginnings of Paul McCartney's bass playing
« Reply #126 on: September 27, 2010, 04:42:01 PM »

Xose, you'd love this movie...

 
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Re: The beginnings of Paul McCartney's bass playing
« Reply #127 on: September 27, 2010, 06:11:11 PM »

Well spotted. No doubt that it's John's guitar.
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Re: The beginnings of Paul McCartney's bass playing
« Reply #128 on: September 27, 2010, 08:11:26 PM »

Next question:

Which fret is Lennon's fretting??  8)

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Re: The beginnings of Paul McCartney's bass playing
« Reply #129 on: October 02, 2010, 08:01:53 PM »

Now I have a doubt. Is this the Kaiserkeller or the Top Ten??:  ???



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Re: The beginnings of Paul McCartney's bass playing
« Reply #130 on: October 03, 2010, 01:38:23 AM »

Xose, according to this article by Rick Hardy (aka Rick Richards), an original member of The Jets, the picture of The Jets you posted above was taken at The Top Ten Club in July, 1960...

http://www.bootlegzone.com/beatleg/thejets.html
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Re: The beginnings of Paul McCartney's bass playing
« Reply #131 on: October 03, 2010, 10:24:59 AM »

Xose, according to this article by Rick Hardy (aka Rick Richards), an original member of The Jets, the picture of The Jets you posted above was taken at The Top Ten Club in July, 1960...

Yes, I know. But if you have a look at other Top Ten photos (=for example, those of Spring 1961, with the Beatrles alone and with Tony Sheridan) those paintings seems not beieng there...  ???

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Re: The beginnings of Paul McCartney's bass playing
« Reply #132 on: October 03, 2010, 11:52:21 PM »

It looks like they redecorated the place, Xose.





Or maybe that mural is behind the curtain.
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Re: The beginnings of Paul McCartney's bass playing
« Reply #133 on: October 04, 2010, 08:48:56 AM »

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It looks like they redecorated the place, Xose...
...Or maybe that mural is behind the curtain.

Yes: that should be the answer to my question...

Thank you!! ;)

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Re: The beginnings of Paul McCartney's bass playing
« Reply #134 on: October 04, 2010, 08:52:39 AM »

Plus I don't think it's Kaiserkeller because Tony had been kicked out by then.
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Re: The beginnings of Paul McCartney's bass playing
« Reply #135 on: October 04, 2010, 08:59:34 AM »

1) Salary receipt for The Beatles and Tony Sheridan for seven days' work at the Top Ten Club, Hamburg, June 10th-16th, 1961. The agreement is titled "...Musiken Rechnung..." (=Musicians' Payments), and lists the five Beatles and Tony Sheridan in the following order: George Harrison, Paul McCartney, John Lennon, Stuart Sutcliffe, Pete Best and Tony Sheridan, giving details of their matching salaries: "...7 a 35.-=DM245..." (=7 days at 35 DM), less tax, giving a total per week for each of DM245. Each paragraph is signed individually by the recipient. Sutcliffe is STILL playing bass with them by 16 June 1961.



2) McCartney at interview with Tony Bacon, 30 November 1994: "...Stu lent me his bass for a week or so..."

3) Recording sessions at Friedrich Ebert Halle, 22-23 June 1961. Sutcliffe is NOT there playing bass (=is McCartney using Stu's bass, or his new 500/1 at these recordings??)

4) Recording contract amongst JL, PM, GH & PB, on one side, and Bert Kämpfert, on the other side, come into effect on 1 July 1961 and remained in force until 30 June 1962*. Sutcliffe DIDN'T sign the contract:













5) On 2 July 1961 The Beatles return back to Liverpool and McCartney has ALREADY got his Höfner 500/1.

So..., when did McCartney purchase his Höfner 500/1??  ???

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* Reproduced from The Beatles with Tony Sheridan, Beatle Bop - Hamburg Days, Bear Family Records, 2001, pp. 12-17.
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Re: The beginnings of Paul McCartney's bass playing
« Reply #136 on: October 04, 2010, 09:47:28 AM »

One should think that Stuart would not get paid his share if he didn't play, so we should assume that Stuart at least played that week. Great find of that receipt. It does not mention whether Stuart also played the weeks before this week (10-16 June); the change of bassplayer could have been a process of months, in which Stuart did show up at times. And if not, Paul might have played the bass that was available.
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Re: The beginnings of Paul McCartney's bass playing
« Reply #137 on: October 04, 2010, 09:57:48 AM »

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One should think that Stuart would not get paid his share if he didn't play, so we should assume that Stuart at least played that week. Great find of that receipt. It does not mention whether Stuart also played the weeks before this week (10-16 June); the change of bassplayer could have been a process of months, in which Stuart did show up at times. And if not, Paul might have played the bass that was available.


I agree. And in fact, some -very scarce!!- facts say that McCartney played bass on Sutcliffe absences (=both in Hamburg and in Liverpool from Autumn 1960 until the latter left the group (=save four gigs on December 1960 in Liverpool, when Chas Newby took the bass role...)

But..., would McCartney have purchased his bass if Sutcliffe's was STILL available??

BTW: the receipt does not mention whether Stuart also played the weeks before this week (10-16 June) because Peter Eckhorn issued those receipts weekly. See this one:

The Jets' first earnings at the Top Ten, dated 15 July 1960. Signed by Tony Sheridan, Colin Crawley, Peter Wharton, Rick Hardy and Jimmy Ward. Each bandmember took an equal share of 245 Deutsche Marks except for Jimmy Ward, who only worked 3 days and got 105 Deutsche Marks.



This receipt corresponds to this photo:



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Re: The beginnings of Paul McCartney's bass playing
« Reply #138 on: October 04, 2010, 11:54:33 AM »

Judging by the accuracy of the Jets receipt, we should assume that Stuart Sutcliffe played every day with the Beatles in the week of 10-16 June 1961. That really surprises me.
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Re: The beginnings of Paul McCartney's bass playing
« Reply #139 on: October 04, 2010, 01:09:12 PM »

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Judging by the accuracy of the Jets receipt, we should assume that Stuart Sutcliffe played every day with the Beatles in the week of 10-16 June 1961. That really surprises me.


Yes: that is what that very interesting source says...

So, there is a VERY narrow time frame for McCartney purchasing his 500/1: 16 June -2 July 1961.

Now, the point is: did McCartney use his 500/1 on recording sessions at Friedrich Ebert Halle, 22-23 June 1961, or perhaps he STILL used Sutcliffe's 500/5??

And -even more interesting-, these photos at Top Ten (=with both basses: McCartney's and Sutcliffe's) should be dated those days (=Macca's is pretty new, as he even hasn't still got a strap...)

BTW: when did Sutcliffe sold his bass to Klaus Voormann?

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