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[Bobber]

Depends. You are following the idea that Paul did not purchase his Hofner with Stu still in the band. You are assuming that because Stu was -according to the receipt- playing with The Beatles, Paul did not buy his Hofner yet. Another scenario could be that Stuart joined in on this week (or several weeks) because he might have needed some cash. Or to give Paul time to adjust to his new instrument. Just because Stu was paid and therefore obviously played with The Beatles from 10-16 June, it is not stated that Paul had not bought his Hofner yet.

[Xose]

Depends. You are following the idea that Paul did not purchase his Hofner with Stu still in the band. You are assuming that because Stu was -according to the receipt- playing with The Beatles, Paul did not buy his Hofner yet. Another scenario could be that Stuart joined in on this week (or several weeks) because he might have needed some cash. Or to give Paul time to adjust to his new instrument. Just because Stu was paid and therefore obviously played with The Beatles from 10-16 June, it is not stated that Paul had not bought his Hofner yet.

Yes, you are right. Although McCartney wasn't keen on 'spending money' if another cheaper solution was at hand...

Anyway, it's clear that Sutcliffe was playing (=and paid for) with the Beatles on 10-16 June 1961...

What happened to Sutcliffe's 500/5 after leaving the band?? It's known that Klaus Voormann purchased it from Sutcliffe, but..., when??

Best!!

Xosé

[Bobber]

Maybe in Klaus' autobiography?

[Bobber]

Found this on the site of the Liverpool Museum:

Stuart spent most of his money on paints and canvases. During the summer of his first year at college he worked as a bin man on the Liverpool Corporation rubbish collection lorries.

Stubs from this cheque book for his account at Westminster Bank, Princes Road, Liverpool 8 show that he had made payments for goods at Lewis's and Hessey's for John and Paul.

[Xose]

Stubs from this cheque book for his account at Westminster Bank, Princes Road, Liverpool 8 show that he had made payments for goods at Lewis's and Hessey's for John and Paul.

Excellent, Bobber!!

Does that source indicate which payments did Sutcliffe do for John & Paul?? 

Xosé

[Bobber]

You will need a closer look at the chequebook stubs in the Liverpool Museum I'm afraid.

[Xose]

You will need a closer look at the chequebook stubs in the Liverpool Museum I'm afraid.

Oh I see. Maybe somebody living there could have a look...

Xosé

[Xose]

I'm uploading a daguerreotype of Domenico Dragonetti (1763-1846), the famous Venetian Double Bass player living in London for the most of his life:



This daguerreotype is dated 1843, hence one of the oldest known 'photographs' of a musician with his instrument...

Best!!

Xosé

[Bobber]

Great picture. Are you now researching this?

[Xose]

Great picture. Are you now researching this?

Not exactly, because I did it years ago (=end nineties...)

Xosé

[Xose]

Tuesday February 16, 1965:



This explains why Ringo was fooling around with the Double Bass bow onto the Ramírez:



But, the question is: why a Double Bass -and its bow- was there during that session. Another different recording being done by an orchestra at those days??

Best!!

Xosé

[Hello Goodbye]

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Wow!  Ringo did that before Jimmy Page...




Add that to the things The Beatles invented.

[Xose]

Another one:



Whose that Double Bass??  

Xosé

[Xose]

There is a clue at Brian Kehew - Kevin Ryan, Recording The Beatles, Houston, Curvebender, 2008, p. 394, a note in George Martin's hand for the 20 February session reads:

"...That Means a Lot
Track 1: George on Spanish acoustic
John on Fender
Drums + bass

Track 2: Paul bowing bass guitar
Ringo tom tom (w/echo)
And beginning only John on Fender..."

So, the Double Bass bow was there by those days. But this doesn't explain why both Double bass + bow were there.

I think an orchestra could be recording at Abbey Road (=probably on Studio 1) by those days, but...., which one?? 

Xosé

[Hello Goodbye]

Xose, The George Martin Orchestra recorded their pieces for this album at Abbey Road...



Maybe that bass fiddle belonged to someone in the band.

[Hello Goodbye]

Also, large instruments like pianos and double basses are often found at recording studios.  They're "house instruments."

[Hello Goodbye]

Or maybe Paul asked for a bass fiddle to be there that day.

[Xose]

Xose, The George Martin Orchestra recorded their pieces for this album at Abbey Road...

Brillant, HG!! Thank you SO much!!

Also, large instruments like pianos and double basses are often found at recording studios.  They're "house instruments."

Mmmm... I don't think so. At least, not in the case of a professional Double Bass player from mid-XXth. Century onwards. Goldne word of another Double Bass player!!

Or maybe Paul asked for a bass fiddle to be there that day.

Yes: that could be likely...

But I stick to your first theory: George Martin Orchestra...

Best!!

Xosé

[Bobber]

Now, who were the members of the George Martin Orchestra?

[Xose]

Now, who were the members of the George Martin Orchestra?

Yes... 

Xosé