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Epstein's Kingsley Hill: more photos from this session??
« on: November 15, 2010, 10:43:59 AM »

These photos were -supossedly- taken at Epstein home on Summer 1967:





Does anybody know of more photos from this session??

I'm interested in the guitar and I wonder why is there. Epstein sold instruments at his NEMS store. Also guitars??

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Re: Epstein's Kingsley Hill: more photos from this session??
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2010, 07:35:38 AM »

Are you sure this is the same guitar?
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Re: Epstein's Kingsley Hill: more photos from this session??
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2010, 08:10:43 AM »

Are you sure this is the same guitar?

No, I'm not...  :(

But Lennon's one is not his Mayoral, as the head is different...

Anyway, Macca's is strung for a righthand player...

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Re: Epstein's Kingsley Hill: more photos from this session??
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2010, 02:33:57 PM »

Perhaps were they playing 'Baby You're A Rich Man'??  ;D

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Re: Epstein's Kingsley Hill: more photos from this session??
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2010, 12:19:28 AM »

Quote from: Xosé
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Tatay?? (=Ivor Mairants used to sell Tatay guitars at his shop...)



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Re: Epstein's Kingsley Hill: more photos from this session??
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2010, 12:57:02 AM »

it looks like paul is playing a guitar that is strung for a rightie upside down as a leftie
(the strings closer to his lap appear thicker)
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i guess like hendrix he had experience adapting to rightie guitars during leaner, less famous times - and has some upside down moves
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maybe being forced to adapt and reverse the fretboard in his mind (when he started out) improved his musical abilities & knowledge , for that matter
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Re: Epstein's Kingsley Hill: more photos from this session??
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2010, 01:00:56 AM »

oops sorry, i see that u mentioned it's strung rightie.
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i thought u were kind of a nut obsessing about "which guitar when" when i first saw your posts, xose - but the more pieces to the puzzle appear - it's really cool. kind of like a historical detective !
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Re: Epstein's Kingsley Hill: more photos from this session??
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2010, 08:42:47 AM »

Tatay?? (=Ivor Mairants used to sell Tatay guitars at his shop...)

I have my doubts. It looks like it, but not precisely. The guitar Paul is playing has dark words next to the ring. It looks a little different.
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Re: Epstein's Kingsley Hill: more photos from this session??
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2010, 10:31:31 AM »

I have my doubts. It looks like it, but not precisely. The guitar Paul is playing has dark words next to the ring. It looks a little different.

Yes: you are probably right...

Let's still searching...

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Re: Epstein's Kingsley Hill: more photos from this session??
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2010, 10:56:59 AM »

What about rotating it 180º??:



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Re: Epstein's Kingsley Hill: more photos from this session??
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2010, 01:24:04 PM »

As you probably know, Epstein's butlers at Kingley Hill were Spaniards: Antonio García and his wife María. Epstein liked flamenco and bullfighting very much. It has been told that he had a póster of the famous Spanish torero by those days, El Cordobés, at his bathroom in Kingsley Hill...

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Re: Epstein's Kingsley Hill: more photos from this session??
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2010, 03:03:32 PM »

Still not 100% imho.
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Re: Epstein's Kingsley Hill: more photos from this session??
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2010, 03:33:30 PM »

Still not 100% imho.


Not 100% IMHO as well...

BTW: LINK

"...when he [Brian Epstein] appeared on the BBC radio programme Desert Island Discs on 18th November 1964, his final choice on the list of pieces of music he would take with him to the imaginary desert island evoked memories of Spain; his selection was Fiesta de Jerez by the Carmen Amaya Company..."

Is this broadcasting available on youtube??

"...Alistair Taylor was Brian Epstein’s first personal assistant and had accompanied Epstein when he “discovered” the Beatles in the Cavern. Interestingly, Taylor’s first official undertaking for Epstein was to arrange to have a number of Epstein’s bullfight posters tastefully framed. Subsequently, these would hang with others in one of Epstein’s offices in the family business premises in Whitechapel in the centre of Liverpool. Later, on 24th January 1962, it was in this long and narrow office that the Beatles signed a management contract with Epstein. We are therefore gifted an almost surreal image of that fateful day, of the Beatles putting pens to paper under the gaze of Antonio Ordóñez, Luis Miguel Dominguín, Jaime Ostos, Paco Camino and host of other figuras of the time...."

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Re: Epstein's Kingsley Hill: more photos from this session??
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Re: Epstein's Kingsley Hill: more photos from this session??
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2010, 08:31:33 PM »

I have located another possibility:





But, again, I'm not very sure...

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Re: Epstein's Kingsley Hill: more photos from this session??
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2010, 02:40:50 AM »

I don't think so either.

Here's a website that shows just about every guitar (with headstock and label) ever made:

http://www.jedistar.com/jedistar_vintage_guitar_dating_a.htm

Have fun!   ;D
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Re: Epstein's Kingsley Hill: more photos from this session??
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2010, 08:42:03 AM »

Great site...
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Re: Epstein's Kingsley Hill: more photos from this session??
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2010, 03:01:12 PM »

Great site, HG... Thank you very much!! ;)

I have found these chances:









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Re: Epstein's Kingsley Hill: more photos from this session??
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2010, 07:10:40 PM »

Another chance:



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Re: Epstein's Kingsley Hill: more photos from this session??
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2010, 08:02:51 PM »

It is really hard to tell. The picture is Paul's guitar is just a bit too blurry.
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