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starofwonder

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Paul on the ivories
« on: February 04, 2011, 11:09:11 PM »

 Wonder how good Paul is on the piano ?
I dare say he is n't in the Elton John league,  but I would nt
mind betting he did a lot of songwriting using the piano ...( just guessing )

got to say he looks pretty good on the ivories  here

Paul McCartney - Lady Madonna (live at jools holland)


( wonder who was the best pianist between Paul and John ? )
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Re: Paul on the ivories
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2011, 07:42:38 AM »

i would definitely say paul over john on piano -

with standouts includiing martha my dear, for no one, maybe im amazed, you never give me your money and long and winding road
he's also playing awesome piano on a day in the life. totally makes the song
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tried to think of some great john piano songs . . (besides the obvious imagine) . . all i could come up with was sexy sadie...... then i checked and that's paul on keys as well
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paul also does some good piano work alongside george martin in 'you like me too much'
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Re: Paul on the ivories
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2011, 10:10:31 AM »

from mem theres some great piano on Martha My  Dear..
if he was that good back then, makes you wonder how he got that good,
 did he take lessons ?
 Tradition says he learned the trumpet as a boy
(must have been a piano in the front room too !)
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Re: Paul on the ivories
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2011, 10:47:40 AM »

hands down paul is good at the piano and music because of his dad jim (played trumpet and piano and guitar)... who got it from HIS dad aka paul's grandfather joe(played tuba plus who knows what else)

the mccartneys had an upright piano in the home that paul wrote alot of songs on. young paul also wrote on his dad's guitar
jim mccartney was all about music - live bands ;a huge record collection ;had a ragtime band ;got his kids into it ;etcetc

by all accounts jim mccartney was a fine musician and incredibly cool guy who was extremely proud of his son and his son's success
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supposedly he did get paul to take lessons - but skiffle hit and paul was off on the play by ear thing . . .
kind of parellell to how young jim mccartney got into ragtiime and his classical music father thought it was folly
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this is a song paul's dad wrote when paul was young that paul recorded with wings . .
paul's dad !  ;yes
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Wings - Walking In The Park With Eloise (1976)

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Re: Paul on the ivories
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2011, 03:23:14 PM »

Yes, just goes to show, the talent just did nt come from thin air,
Jim was of course a band leader and must have been music mad all his life,
John's grandfather actually toured america with a rag time type band  ( if memory serves ! )
so Paul and John were just chips off the old block !

Paul must have been at work on that upright piano from the age of 5 or so !

The Bee Gees,,,  so full of talent,  more or less contemporary with John and Paul
their father was a band leader too !
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Re: Paul on the ivories
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2011, 07:12:23 PM »


( wonder who was the best pianist between Paul and John ? )
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both underrated pianists from what I have seen, heard and read. A lot of John's solo stuff features some fine piano playing by the man himself.

Interesting how so many Beatles numbers requiring keyboards - or more precisely organ, rather than piano - see that duty fall to John (We Can Work It Out, The Night Before, I'm Down etc). Was John the better organ player, or did these tracks require Paul's superiority on the bass?
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Re: Paul on the ivories
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2011, 10:58:45 PM »

i would say paul was the best piano player in the beatles by quite a margin.while the others could play piano paul really tried hard to become a better pianist and it does show,in the tracks already mentioned such as martha my dear(especially that track)and some nice piano stuff on abbey road and let it be.
a good story about 'walking in the park with eloise'.......when paul told old jim he was releasing ''that track that you wrote,dad''apparantly jim replied....."oh,i didn't write it,son,i just made it up". ;D
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Re: Paul on the ivories
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2011, 06:52:56 AM »

John played Obladi Oblada though. I realize this has no point, but just saying.

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Re: Paul on the ivories
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2011, 10:15:32 AM »

Nice to think that Jim lived long enough to  see Paul's incredible success
I think he saw Sgt Pepper come out if memory serves.
He must have been amazed by his sons  incredible songwriting talent.
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Re: Paul on the ivories
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2011, 08:52:15 PM »

No  Mr Mustard.... the piano must feature far more in Beatles music than
the organ.  
Wasn't  even  George Martin providing piano for some songs in the early days ?
like... Not a second time  for  eg .

It would be great if they set up a show ... say in some posh theatre in London
( not too big.. say a 500 seater )  and  had a kind of  piano  competition between
Paul....   Jimmy Webb....   Brian Wilson....   Elton John... maybe one or two others  who
can tickle the ivories.......maybe set up as a charity concert and of course filmed for
future TV broadcasts.

Coming on one after the other during the evening to do  a 30 minute spot, we should get
an idea  just  who is tops on the keyboard.

 Singing and playing accompanyment on piano  is quite an art  and in  that  intimate
theatre setting  it will sort out the men from the boys !

My money is on Elton... look at the way he handled the Diana funeral... playing and singing
 live  in front of a world audience... wot a talent !

Maybe the  reason so many top performers love the piano and so  often compose with it
is because it is basically a pecussive instrument....  keys banging away on  tight piano wire.
The electric organ  just does nt deliver the  percussion and the vibes in the same way.

Jimmy Webb is no mug on the old ivories either .........
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Jimmy Webb - The Highwayman (The video's owner prevents external embedding)



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Re: Paul on the ivories
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2011, 11:09:16 PM »

Yes, just goes to show, the talent just did nt come from thin air,
Jim was of course a band leader and must have been music mad all his life,
John's grandfather actually toured america with a rag time type band  ( if memory serves ! )
so Paul and John were just chips off the old block !

Paul must have been at work on that upright piano from the age of 5 or so !

The Bee Gees,,,  so full of talent,  more or less contemporary with John and Paul
their father was a band leader too !

Pete Townshend's dad was saxophonist and clarinetist in a big band called The Squadronaires, and his mother sang with big bands too.
And Elvis Costello's dad played in the Joe Loss Orchestra.
Doesn't exactly prove much of a point, but thought I'd mention it!!
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Re: Paul on the ivories
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2011, 01:06:55 AM »

Correct me if Im wrong, but  in every stage performance
Paul has made, he is  inevitably behind  some musical instrument or other
a piano... or else strapped to a guitar and amp.
   Hes a great singer, he loves singing, so  why does nt he just get a mike and 
sing to the audience.... and use the  whole stage  to perform......
...  a bit  like this
Simply Red - Night Nurse


 Ive often thought the same about Elton John... why does nt he do something
like this  too ?
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Re: Paul on the ivories
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2011, 11:20:27 AM »

Nice to think that Jim lived long enough to  see Paul's incredible success
I think he saw Sgt Pepper come out if memory serves.
He must have been amazed by his sons  incredible songwriting talent.
jim mccartney passed away in 1976,i think.paul never attended his funeral,although that wasn't due to a falling out,it's just pauls' way of dealing with grief,i hear.
although a very competent player,i'm not sure paul is in elton johns' league of playing.that is just my opinion;open to debate,but i reckon elton gets the nod on the old joanna.
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Re: Paul on the ivories
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2011, 05:11:03 PM »

Sir Paul is an incredible performer, saw/heard  him in san francisco (read : i was outside the venue the whole show) just an incredible show. don't think he can play piano well you're wrong, listen to the ragtime piano at the beginning of lady madonna. yes the truth is both John and Paul could provide adequate crunch on the piano. ob la di ob la da is yet another fine example of totally sufficient piano work.
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Re: Paul on the ivories
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2011, 01:55:55 AM »

although a very competent player,i'm not sure paul is in elton johns' league of playing.

I am sure Paul is not in Eltons league. This is not up to debate.

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Re: Paul on the ivories
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2011, 02:45:59 AM »

i think paul improved on piano from the time george martin played the solo on 'in my life' ... to paul himself playing something equally complex on 'martha my dear'
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one of paul's best moments on keys is the opening of strawberry fields forever
simple yet unforgettable - and elevates the material to a whole next level !
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Re: Paul on the ivories
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2011, 02:53:47 AM »

update....
just googled paul mccartney piano to find what people consider his best moments.....
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turns out there's a site called "PaulMcCartneyCantPlayPiano" . . .

http://paulcantplaypiano.blogspot.com/2008/06/welcome-please-read-this-first.html
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Re: Paul on the ivories
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2011, 03:43:23 AM »

 I read that Jim bought their piano from the Epstein music store ...!
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Re: Paul on the ivories
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2011, 06:49:29 AM »

update....
just googled paul mccartney piano to find what people consider his best moments.....
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turns out there's a site called "PaulMcCartneyCantPlayPiano" . . .

http://paulcantplaypiano.blogspot.com/2008/06/welcome-please-read-this-first.html


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Re: Paul on the ivories
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2011, 01:43:20 PM »

Sir Paul is an incredible performer, saw/heard  him in san francisco (read : i was outside the venue the whole show) just an incredible show. don't think he can play piano well you're wrong, listen to the ragtime piano at the beginning of lady madonna. yes the truth is both John and Paul could provide adequate crunch on the piano. ob la di ob la da is yet another fine example of totally sufficient piano work.
paul can play the piano,no question at all there.i think 'martha my dear' was an exercise on the piano (or something like that),paul said that it surprised the others that he could play like that.the ragtime bit at the start of lady madonna...very nice,not difficult.but,as you say,sufficient.......just not in elton johns' ballpark.
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