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danielcelano

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Doctor Robert - Longer Version
« on: February 28, 2011, 12:48:49 AM »

Do you think that the longer version of Doctor Robert is floating around somewhere?
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Re: Doctor Robert - Longer Version
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2011, 06:56:54 AM »

Yes...my stereo Yesterday And Today vinyl LP has a long version of Doctor Robert.  It skips toward the end.   ;D

There might be a mix or a take that's a bit longer but I've never seen it released.  My Alternate Revolver CD has the US stereo mix at 2:16, the US mono mix at 2:16 and the UK mono mix at 2:14
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Re: Doctor Robert - Longer Version
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2011, 09:12:15 AM »

Yes...my stereo Yesterday And Today vinyl LP has a long version of Doctor Robert.  It skips toward the end.   ;D\

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Re: Doctor Robert - Longer Version
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2011, 11:27:27 PM »

I guess the US longer mono version of Doctor Robert shows John's "Herb" speech. But it's hard to hear because of a fadeout. Right, Bobber?

Yes...my stereo Yesterday And Today vinyl LP has a long version of Doctor Robert.  It skips toward the end.   ;D

There might be a mix or a take that's a bit longer but I've never seen it released.  My Alternate Revolver CD has the US stereo mix at 2:16, the US mono mix at 2:16 and the UK mono mix at 2:14
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Re: Doctor Robert - Longer Version
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2011, 04:19:34 AM »

Doctor Robert - The Beatles - US Mono Mix
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Re: Doctor Robert - Longer Version
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2011, 08:27:06 AM »

I guess the US longer mono version of Doctor Robert shows John's "Herb" speech. But it's hard to hear because of a fadeout. Right, Bobber?


Whatever you want. I have never heard John's Herb speech to be honest.
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Re: Doctor Robert - Longer Version
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2011, 12:48:47 PM »

I can think of someone who has maybe had too much "herb"  ;)
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Re: Doctor Robert - Longer Version
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2011, 11:22:51 PM »

Longer, how? Do you mean the fadeout is longer?

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Re: Doctor Robert - Longer Version
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2011, 11:30:18 AM »

Longer, how? Do you mean the fadeout is longer?



There were three songs on the original Yesterday ... and Today LP that were early mono mixes of Revolver songs - Dr Robert, And Your Bird Can Sing and I'm Only Sleeping. Capitol were keen to get Y&T released in June 1966 but only had seven songs that they could use. They were pushing EMI for three new songs so they could put out a 10-track album. So these three songs which had been recorded for Revolver were given a quick mix by EMI in London and sent to the US so that Capitol could release Y&T, but The Beatles would then spend a while longer perfecting the mixes that eventually came out on Revolver in the UK in August 1966 (as well as on subsequent reissues of Y&T plus the official CDs).

(When Revolver was released in the US it didn't include those three songs, all of which were Lennon songs, so John only had 2 songs on the US Revolver album.)

There are quite a few differences if you listen to the three songs closely. Dr Robert has a slightly longer fade-out on the US version and you can just make out John beginning to talk about something before the fade.
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Re: Doctor Robert - Longer Version
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2011, 09:11:39 PM »

And what about the "well, well, well, parts"? They're mixed in differently because of extra percussion.
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Re: Doctor Robert - Longer Version
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2011, 03:00:16 AM »

There are quite a few differences if you listen to the three songs closely. Dr Robert has a slightly longer fade-out on the US version and you can just make out John beginning to talk about something before the fade.

I can hear that too.  I have to crank up the volume to hear it.
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Re: Doctor Robert - Longer Version
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2011, 03:30:48 AM »

Well, I listened to the US mono version I have on my iPod.  Turning up the volume during the fadout I heard John say "OK, Herb."

Cor, it's really there.    :)
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Re: Doctor Robert - Longer Version
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2011, 08:19:56 AM »

Well, I listened to the US mono version I have on my iPod.  Turning up the volume during the fadout I heard John say "OK, Herb."

Cor, it's really there.    :)

I believe you. So this is the infamous 'Herb Speech'. Impressive. ha2ha  Still I'm gonna have a listen myself.
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Re: Doctor Robert - Longer Version
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2011, 02:29:05 PM »

Right.  Two words, Cor.  Anyway it's on The Alternate Revolver CD...



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Re: Doctor Robert - Longer Version
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2011, 01:17:54 AM »

I think I had an idea to do something with this loud volume.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=35W2EBQH

Here it is. I used Audacity to make John's Herb speech louder. Do you guys like it or love it?
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Re: Doctor Robert - Longer Version
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2011, 01:28:52 AM »

You did a good job enhancing the fade-out, Daniel.  John's "OK, Herb" is quite clear.
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Re: Doctor Robert - Longer Version
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2011, 10:39:25 AM »

I think I had an idea to do something with this loud volume.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QMRHBR2S

Here it is. I used Audacity to make John's Herb speech louder. Do you guys like it or love it?


Do you think he really says "OK, Herb"?
I'm not so sure. Would John really announce over the mic that he's off to smoke a joint, when George Martin is on film stating that the Beatles didn't use drugs in front of him and they used to try to hide it from him.
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Re: Doctor Robert - Longer Version
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2011, 10:18:34 PM »

I think John says either "Okay Herb" or "Hey there".
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Re: Doctor Robert - Longer Version
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2011, 04:16:38 AM »

Someone in the studio was named Herb.
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Re: Doctor Robert - Longer Version
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2011, 09:53:34 AM »

Someone in the studio was named Herb.

I thought of that, but who at EMI was called "Herb" or "Herbert"?

I've also read that 43 seconds was edited out of the middle of Dr Robert somewhere.
The original recording was 2:56 but was edited down to 2:13.
Anyone know where in the song the edit was made, what was edited out, and why it was removed?

I also wonder why they decided to fade this song on the record when it seems to come to a proper stop if you listen to the Y&T version.
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