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Deconstructing 'I Need You'
« on: May 28, 2011, 12:00:21 PM »

According to George Martin handwritten notes (=quoted on Kehew-Ryan, op. cit., p. 389):

"...Take 5

George vocal, and plays acoustic Spanish
Paul on bass, John on offbeat drums
Ringo on back of Jumbo guitar

Finish take 9:25

Track 1: all first backing
Track 2: George voice

Track 1: first, then overdub
Track 3: voice George, with Paul occasionally
Track 4: George and Paul again, with Ringo on cowbell

Tuesday - Wipe Track 4 George and John and Paul
Wipe Track 2 John and Paul and Cowbell and Guitar
Finish at 4:35 Tuesday
On Track 2 (final overdub)
George played a 12-string Rickenbacker with foot-pedal..."


Very interesting, IMHO...

BTW: any chances of getting isolated tracks of Ringo's drumming on back of Jumbo guitar and John's snare drum??

Thanks in advance and best wishes!! ;)

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Re: Deconstructing 'I Need You'
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2011, 08:29:54 AM »

Why didn't Lennon play a guitar on this song??

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Re: Deconstructing 'I Need You'
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2011, 01:29:47 PM »

Gear used on this song:

- Ramírez "instrumentos para rondalla" Spanish guitar

- Höfner 500/1 '63 bass

- Ludwig 'Jazz Festival' snare drum

- Gibson J-160E acoustic guitar

- Rickenbacker 360/12 electric guitar

- Volume pedal (=probably DeArmond...)

- Cowbell

Any clues about isolated tracks??  ???

Best!! ;)

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Re: Deconstructing 'I Need You'
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2011, 03:23:13 PM »

BTW:
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...Tuesday - Wipe Track 4 George and John and Paul
Wipe Track 2 John and Paul and Cowbell and Guitar...

What does "wipe" mean??

Thanks in advance and best wishes!! ;)

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Re: Deconstructing 'I Need You'
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2011, 05:16:30 PM »

Wipe, I think means to erase.
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Re: Deconstructing 'I Need You'
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2011, 05:52:09 PM »

Wipe, I think means to erase.

Thank you, RICKENBACKER325!! ;)

So, IIRC, on Tuesday the Track 4, previously recorded with G & P voices + Ringo on cowbell, was erased and recorded again with G & P & J -I guess singing-..., right?? This is strange, as there is not trace of John's voice on the released song...

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Re: Deconstructing 'I Need You'
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2011, 06:03:15 PM »

...This is strange, as there is not trace of John's voice on the released song...

Wait!! Yes, there is: one of the vocal harmonies on the bridge...

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Re: Deconstructing 'I Need You'
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2011, 10:01:19 PM »

......Wipe Track 2 John and Paul and Cowbell and Guitar...

This means that the original George voice, recorded on track 2 for the first time, was erased..., correct??

Thanks in advance and best wishes!! ;)

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Re: Deconstructing 'I Need You'
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2011, 11:34:06 PM »

yes, it was probably only a guide vocal anyway

and yes, John is clearly on the bridge backing vocals
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Re: Deconstructing 'I Need You'
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2011, 12:22:17 AM »

This means that the original George voice, recorded on track 2 for the first time, was erased..., correct??









Erased....from existence!
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Re: Deconstructing 'I Need You'
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2011, 12:41:57 AM »

are you sure George plays his Rick Xose ?

I always though it was his strat on there and Yes It Is (both with expression pedal)
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Re: Deconstructing 'I Need You'
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2011, 12:55:54 AM »

It sounds like a 12-string to me, Kevin.
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Re: Deconstructing 'I Need You'
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2011, 01:16:59 AM »

it does Barry

according to wiki;

George Harrison – double-tracked vocal, lead guitar with Volume Pedal (1961 Fender Stratocaster)
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Re: Deconstructing 'I Need You'
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2011, 01:26:39 AM »

Xosé's source appears to be more credible, Kevin.  He's citing Recording The Beatles by Brian Kehew.
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Re: Deconstructing 'I Need You'
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2011, 01:39:55 AM »

yes, I dont think its a Fender now.
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Re: Deconstructing 'I Need You'
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2011, 02:08:27 AM »

A Fender Strat in the bridge position, double tracked, will sound very very close to the jangly Rickenbacker 12 string. I am not claiming this was the case. I am just saying it could have been the case.
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Re: Deconstructing 'I Need You'
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2011, 02:22:36 AM »

good point but a serious lack of available tracks  ;D
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Re: Deconstructing 'I Need You'
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2011, 03:17:54 AM »

...and the volume pedal should be considered.

Still, George Martin's notes on the recording of I Need You were specific..."George played a 12-string Rickenbacker with foot-pedal..."
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Re: Deconstructing 'I Need You'
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2011, 04:30:02 AM »

is that from the  Brian Kehew book Barry ?
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Re: Deconstructing 'I Need You'
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2011, 09:25:26 AM »

are you sure George plays his Rick Xose ?

I always though it was his strat on there and Yes It Is (both with expression pedal)

Well: "...On Track 2 (final overdub)
George played a 12-string Rickenbacker with foot-pedal...", George Martin dixit...

yes, it was probably only a guide vocal anyway...

Aha... Thank you very much!! ;)

BTW: 5 vocal parts singing harmonies on the bridge??

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