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What was John, Paul and George's greatest career break?
« on: January 22, 2012, 05:47:40 AM »

In terms of them being able to become career musicians.
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Re: What was John, Paul and George's greatest career break?
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2012, 05:59:04 AM »

Pete Best  ha2ha

Sorry couldnt resist.

I'm going to go with being introduced to George Martin and probably way off.

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Re: What was John, Paul and George's greatest career break?
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2012, 06:02:59 AM »

LOL..funny...that thread really exploded...
I don't have an answer here..but I'm curious what people think....I think there are some very unheralded people who actually gave the Beatles their biggest break.
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Re: What was John, Paul and George's greatest career break?
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2012, 06:59:22 AM »

Eh, i'm changing my answer to Brian Epstein.

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Re: What was John, Paul and George's greatest career break?
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2012, 09:41:19 AM »

Eh, i'm changing my answer to Brian Epstein.

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Re: What was John, Paul and George's greatest career break?
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2012, 11:18:11 AM »

His Deaths ;D
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Re: What was John, Paul and George's greatest career break?
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2012, 12:54:57 PM »


tkinta is correct, even if he was being sarcastic.

Pete Best was Lennon, McCartney & Harrison's greatest career break, but if you said Brian Epstein I couldn't argue with that.

Everyone agrees The Beatles needed a steady dependable drummer to make it.  Pete Best (and The Best Family) gave them that and then some.  Without Best their is no Germany trip.  No "My Bonnie" for kids to request at NEMS.  No Beatles and Pete's "Atom Beat" for Epstein to hear at the Cavern.

They desperately needed Pete Best to get to the point where crowds would be lining up to pay to see them.  Without Best, there was NO chance of someone like Brian Epstein caring enough to want to see the group.

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Re: What was John, Paul and George's greatest career break?
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2012, 12:56:42 PM »

 ha2ha I like where this is going.
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Re: What was John, Paul and George's greatest career break?
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2012, 01:09:53 PM »

sure if the question was "what was the first and most important break" but the question was the "greatest break" which IMO was getting George Martin to agree to produce, there was nobody else lining up to produce them and think of the impact he had in their music throughout their careers together.  wow.

tkinta is correct, even if he was being sarcastic.

Pete Best was Lennon, McCartney & Harrison's greatest career break, but if you said Brian Epstein I couldn't argue with that.

Everyone agrees The Beatles needed a steady dependable drummer to make it.  Pete Best (and The Best Family) gave them that and then some.  Without Best their is no Germany trip.  No "My Bonnie" for kids to request at NEMS.  No Beatles and Pete's "Atom Beat" for Epstein to hear at the Cavern.

They desperately needed Pete Best to get to the point where crowds would be lining up to pay to see them.  Without Best, there was NO chance of someone like Brian Epstein caring enough to want to see the group.
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Re: What was John, Paul and George's greatest career break?
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2012, 01:24:49 PM »

sure if the question was "what was the first and most important break" but the question was the "greatest break" which IMO was getting George Martin to agree to produce, there was nobody else lining up to produce them and think of the impact he had in their music throughout their careers together.  wow.

Of course I think we can all agree that The Beatles were EVERYBODY ELSES biggest career break.

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Re: What was John, Paul and George's greatest career break?
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2012, 03:18:44 PM »

Great, now Too Many People is in my head...  ;D
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Re: What was John, Paul and George's greatest career break?
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2012, 06:24:31 PM »

This was a tough question to formulate and I probably did a poor job with it.
But there were several people who gave them breaks and there were several times they nearly called it quits.
Epstein and Martin were clearly huge breaks, but did they make John, Paul and George's first goal a possibility (to be able to play music for a living?)
There are others who come to mind in terms of giving them critical breaks, like that Cass and the Casanova guy, Bob Wooler, Mona Best, Allan Williams, and the owner of Hamburg's Top Ten Club.
The only one listed so far I don't agree with was Pete Best. While he hustled and did many things with his mom behind the scenes, I don't think they would have folded up shop had he rejected the Beatles' offer to go over to Hamburg in Aug. of 60.
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Re: What was John, Paul and George's greatest career break?
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2012, 10:47:48 PM »

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Re: What was John, Paul and George's greatest career break?
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2012, 12:06:24 AM »

in the most general sense i think it was the addition of Macca's friend George Harrison to the fray. if you are talking record deals and business contracts then it would be either Sir George Martin, or of course Brian Epstein. i also go with the Hamburg scenario, it probably did them alot of good.
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Re: What was John, Paul and George's greatest career break?
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2012, 12:19:55 AM »


The only one listed so far I don't agree with was Pete Best. While he hustled and did many things with his mom behind the scenes, I don't think they would have folded up shop had he rejected the Beatles' offer to go over to Hamburg in Aug. of 60.

Before adding Pete Best, Lennon, McCartney & Harrison had been a band for 2 years, yet had very little success.  There have been many people (including members of The Beatles) who have made statements indicating that by the summer of 1960 they were close to breaking up.  Then they added Pete Best.  He became the dependable steady drummer they desperately needed. Over the next 2 years, Best would put in more time drumming live for The Beatles than any other drummer in their history.  He put in more time playing live for them in his 2 years than Starr did in his entire career!!!  By the time they sacked Best, they were the #1 band in 2 different cities in 2 different countries with record deals in 2 different countries.  He was the one attracting the most fans to their shows and The Beatles were being called "a phenomenon unlike anything we will see again in our lifetime".

They got a HUGE break when Pete Best decided to join.  You shouldn't be so quick to dismiss his contributions.

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Re: What was John, Paul and George's greatest career break?
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2012, 01:02:07 AM »

tkinta is correct, even if he was being sarcastic.

Yes I was being sarcastic. Very sarcastic.

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Re: What was John, Paul and George's greatest career break?
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2012, 01:17:18 AM »

Yes I was being sarcastic. Very sarcastic.


No.  You were atempting to be sarcastic, but instead got it right.


The winning answer is Pete Best.

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Re: What was John, Paul and George's greatest career break?
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2012, 01:46:51 AM »

The winning answer is Pete Best.

Your winning answer  roll:)
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Re: What was John, Paul and George's greatest career break?
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2012, 02:08:25 AM »


No.  You were atempting to be sarcastic, but instead got it right.


The winning answer is Pete Best.

this is not some kind of a wind up is it mate ?

you have come on a Beatles forum promoting your film about Pete Best, telling us what a horrible person John Lennon was, and now saying the biggest most important person/thing for their world domination was Pete Best  (the guy who was sacked for not being good enough)

it all seems a bit bizzare to me  ???
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Re: What was John, Paul and George's greatest career break?
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2012, 02:59:37 AM »

this is not some kind of a wind up is it mate ?

you have come on a Beatles forum promoting your film about Pete Best, telling us what a horrible person John Lennon was, and now saying the biggest most important person/thing for their world domination was Pete Best  (the guy who was sacked for not being good enough)

it all seems a bit bizzare to me  ???

I am not here posting to tell you what a terrible person John Lennon was or wasn't.  I am just trying to tell the truth on the different issues being discussed.  I am also not telling you that Pete Best was the most important person/thing for their world domination was.  IMO that would be the partnership of Lennon & McCartney.  I am saying that Pete and even Stu made much bigger contributions than they are given credit for by fans of the group and The Beatles themselves.  Lennon, McCartney & Harrison were very fortunate to have had Pete as The Beatles first drummer.  All he did was put in more time playing live with the group than any drummer in their history - including Ringo Starr. 

Also, I am not posting to promote my film.  I made a film and am posting to promote an issue.

I like The Beatles - all six of them.  John, Paul, George, Stu, Pete & Ringo.

I seek to celebrate all of them and all of their significant contributions to the group!!!





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