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[Snoopy66]

Fair enough too. I just guess that the point of these microscope threads is to give us an oppotunity to do some "serious" critiquing (sp) of their work (even for albums we don't particularly like.) It's fun and a nice change from endless favourites lists.

Indeed 

It's fun to discuss the bad and the good albums, whatever our opinions are. I found it just a bit difficult to write my opinion down for an album that I haven't listened to. The cover is really faaar more "popular" than the songs on it 

Snoopy

[Hombre_de_ningun_lugar]

Fair enough too. I just guess that the point of these microscope threads is to give us an oppotunity to do some "serious" critiquing (sp) of their work (even for albums we don't particularly like.) It's fun and a nice change from endless favourites lists.

Yes. I said that I don't care about these "experimental" records, but this doesn't mean that they shouldn't be analysed. Electronic Sound is said to be even more unlistenable. I tried to listen to it from youtube and I couldn't resist more than 1 minute!

[Snoopy66]

Yes. I said that I don't care about these "experimental" records, but this doesn't mean that they shouldn't be analysed. Electronic Sound is said to be even more unlistenable. I tried to listen to it from youtube and I couldn't resist more than 1 minute!

Yeah, I know what you mean 

I've tried to listen to "Electronic Sound" too.. and couldn't resist more than 30 seconds 

Snoopy

[Hombre_de_ningun_lugar]

I've tried to listen to "Electronic Sound" too.. and couldn't resist more than 30 seconds 

Yeah, it may bring you brain damage!

[Snoopy66]

Yeah, it may bring you brain damage!

Indeed 

I wouldn't mind listening to some instrumental stuff, but I just can't stand Yoko's screaming...how the hell could John accept this  Aah yes, maybe you have to be "stoned" to listen to it 

Snoopy

[tkitna]

But would we put Harrison’s Wonderwall under such scrutiny. It too was supposed to belong to a genre outside the familiar Beatle pop/rock (which was probably its point.) As its not a genre I understand or like or willing to buy  I’m loathe to judge it.

"Wonderwall Music' actually doesnt bother me as I take it for what it is. I can listen to it (except for Microbes), but I would definitely put 'Electronic Sound' in the same category as Lennon's first three crap fests.

[nimrod]

So why a Microscope thread on Two Virgins?
To prove that John Lennon's solo output was not an overall success. John-fans tend to point towards McCartney II and Paul's 80's stuff to say they don't like Pauls music.

Whooaahh....too divisive this John v Paul stuff for me bobber mate

the only comment I would make is, whatever trip John was on when he made this record, I dont think he was bothered whether it got to No 1 (although I could be wrong)

[Bobber]

Whooaahh....too divisive this John v Paul stuff for me bobber mate

I just wanted to point out that John's solo carreer was not a complete triumph, as is often suggested.

[Snoopy66]

I just wanted to point out that John's solo carreer was not a complete triumph, as is often suggested.

Well, no one of the ex-Beatles had a "complete triumph" in his solo-career (who can claim so anyway ?). Personally, I've never heard or read any suggestions that John's (short) solo-career was throughout successful. Besides, I don't think it's the point of such an album-analysis to evaluate the music by sold-albums or chart-position.

Snoopy

[Bobber]

Well, no one of the ex-Beatles had a "complete triumph" in his solo-career (who can claim so anyway ?). Personally, I've never heard or read any suggestions that John's (short) solo-career was throughout successful. Besides, I don't think it's the point of such an album-analysis to evaluate the music by sold-albums or chart-position.

Snoopy

I even read in this thread alone: "but give me John's songs all the time, at least he had something to say lyrically."

Anyway, I'm putting this album under the microscope because in my opinion it's a part of John's solo carreer.

[Snoopy66]

I even read in this thread alone: "but give me John's songs all the time, at least he had something to say lyrically."

Anyway, I'm putting this album under the microscope because in my opinion it's a part of John's solo carreer.

Oh, you are refering to this quote... Well, it could be from me too  Well, I guess the poster just wanted to express that he enjoys more John's than Paul's songs because of the "deeper" messages of the lyrics (but I don't want to value Paul's songs or lyrics in this thread, as it's not the right place). I presume that John's songs are to him personally "a complete triumph", which is just a subjective opinion.

... and of course it's o.k. to put this album under the microscope (better a "bad" starting, than no start at all  )

Snoopy

[Bobber]

Oh, you are refering to this quote...

I just took it as an example.

Oh and thank you for allowing me to start this microscope thread.

[tkitna]

Oh and thank you for allowing me to start this microscope thread.

[Hombre_de_ningun_lugar]

I even read in this thread alone: "but give me John's songs all the time, at least he had something to say lyrically."

Anyway, I'm putting this album under the microscope because in my opinion it's a part of John's solo carreer.

Yeah, I said that, but I don't think John's solo career was a complete triumph. I was just making a comparison, as I think that John's songwriting was more interesting than Paul's, while Paul was musically more ambitious but I find most of his work to be pretty silly.

It's valid analysing this album and if you want to use it to prove that John's solo career had several awful moments, I can't really argue. But as I said before, I base my general opinion on how many albums from each artist I really enjoy.