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Casbah:
I gave this question a lot of thought as well.
I've known about Yoko for 36 years. In those 36 years, I've heard all the stories, I've read all the books, forums, etc. People hate her. People say give her a chance, she was John's wife and he loved her why can't we do the same?

I think she was a manipulator. I don't think she was any good for John and she certainly wasn't good for the Beatles. She was on a personal mission. She wanted fame and she wanted notoriety. She had tried and failed and failed again up to the point where she met John at the Indica gallery.
She claims she didn't know the Beatles, the biggest sensation in the same scene she was trying to make a name for herself in. Really.

Yoko didn't cause the breakup of the Beatles but she certainly was the accelerant. Maybe John used Yoko a little bit too. He was getting disenchanted with the Beatles even before he met Yoko.  Yoko helping to break the band apart did some of the dirty work for him. Maybe I'm reaching a little with that one, but it could have some merit.

I'll never know what John saw in Yoko because I think John was a mentally f***ed up man at that time. He was also brilliantly talented which is why we loved him and I think by the time the end of the 70's rolled around he started getting it together but she had a crazy brain herself and I just never liked the woman and I do blame her for helping break up the Beatles.

I see her now as an opportunist and I think it sucks that Johns legacy is left in her hands as well as 1/4 of the Beatles legacy. She uses both to keep herself relevant.

Ahh. Yoko sucks.  ;D Sorry John!


tkitna:

--- Quote from: Casbah on July 31, 2013, 06:48:45 AM ---I gave this question a lot of thought as well.
I've known about Yoko for 36 years. In those 36 years, I've heard all the stories, I've read all the books, forums, etc. People hate her. People say give her a chance, she was John's wife and he loved her why can't we do the same?

I think she was a manipulator. I don't think she was any good for John and she certainly wasn't good for the Beatles. She was on a personal mission. She wanted fame and she wanted notoriety. She had tried and failed and failed again up to the point where she met John at the Indica gallery.
She claims she didn't know the Beatles, the biggest sensation in the same scene she was trying to make a name for herself in. Really.

Yoko didn't cause the breakup of the Beatles but she certainly was the accelerant. Maybe John used Yoko a little bit too. He was getting disenchanted with the Beatles even before he met Yoko.  Yoko helping to break the band apart did some of the dirty work for him. Maybe I'm reaching a little with that one, but it could have some merit.

I'll never know what John saw in Yoko because I think John was a mentally f***ed up man at that time. He was also brilliantly talented which is why we loved him and I think by the time the end of the 70's rolled around he started getting it together but she had a crazy brain herself and I just never liked the woman and I do blame her for helping break up the Beatles.

I see her now as an opportunist and I think it sucks that Johns legacy is left in her hands as well as 1/4 of the Beatles legacy. She uses both to keep herself relevant.

Ahh. Yoko sucks.  ;D Sorry John!

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Well said.



Amen, Casbah, Amen.

stuartblogtumblr:
Don't usually comment on anything other than Stuart, but since I also read Fred Seaman's book as well as the very interesting "Get Back: the Unauthorized Chronicle of the Beatles Let It Be Disaster", I'll share my somewhat ambiguous Ono opinion.  I gotta say I definitely agree with Casbah---well said indeed.  I'll add that I think, bright as Lennon was, he was a pretty lazy guy---and was easily led and influenced.  Stuart was the dedicated, impassioned artist who showed John how to paint when the art school profs couldn't make a dent; McCartney was often the advocate of new, unconventional music and musicians; there was the Maharishi, Magic Alex, Allan Klein and of course, Yoko herself to lead and beguile.  Once interested and the groundwork laid, John would throw in with all he had...until the next new thing came along.

I don't think Ono broke up the Beatles.  In my opinion, the band's breakup was inevitable from the start, caused by the personalities and behavior of its members.  Not that Ono didn't use that for her own benefit.

Having said all that, I also think that Ono's poetry and early performance pieces (the voiceless ones) were intriguing and worth attention.  They weren't getting enough attention, apparently...a world-famous collaborator (especially one easy to manipulate) would certainly boost her celebrity.  And once John became a martyr, her name was was assured.

"Love" is a word that covers all sorts of needs and motivations.  John needed Ono at a time when everything he used to believe in was slipping away.  It's my personal opinion that had John lived, he might have found himself enough to detach from Ono.  He said he was "starting over"; hopefully that effort would have seen him "moving on".

Normandie:

Yoko compares being blamed for the Beatles breakup to being accused of murder:

http://www.today.com/entertainment/yoko-ono-compares-being-blamed-beatles-split-being-accused-murder-2D11673321?lite&lite=obinsite

I seriously doubt that the reason why people don't like her music is because they perceive her as having played a role in the Beatles' breakup.

In My Life:

--- Quote from: Normandie on December 03, 2013, 04:37:18 PM ---I seriously doubt that the reason why people don't like her music is because they perceive her as having played a role in the Beatles' breakup.

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I agree. When I hear her music I don't want it to stop because she may have broken up the Beatles; I want it to stop because I can't stand it.

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