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Re: Song Of The Week - If I Fell
« Reply #60 on: March 02, 2015, 11:16:01 AM »

Can't disagree with any of that, Kevin.

My point was that, if you wanted fresh product every two or three months from a group (surely the template for the most vibrant/changing/competitive era), your optimum time is the one that The Beatles so fortuitously inhabited.   
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Re: Song Of The Week - If I Fell
« Reply #61 on: March 02, 2015, 12:21:35 PM »

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Re: Song Of The Week - If I Fell
« Reply #62 on: March 02, 2015, 02:57:44 PM »

deleted a stupid post

Omigosh, I thought I was the only one who had ever done that!  :)
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Re: Song Of The Week - If I Fell
« Reply #63 on: June 09, 2015, 11:32:13 PM »

Ive tried to understand where klang is coming from when he talks about the song being somehow original structure wise but I cant see it myself, for me its a very good Beatles song, well sung that showed L & M were truly excellent song-smiths..............one thing that lets it down for me is the lyrics 'If I fell in love with you, would you promise to be true' is a tad corny (you rhyming with true has been slightly over-used).

As far as melody goes I always thought John was 'inspired' by Nat King Cole's 'When I Fall In Love' from 1956.
I would always rate Nat's song as higher quality than Johns though, both lyrically and melodically and it has become a well deserved standard.

I do love the song though, and the way they recorded it.

As far as the Beatles 'inventing' not putting singles on albums, from memory, this was never really attributed to them in the 60's, it was always described as a 'British' (money concious) thing, thats why other British bands like The Stones also didnt do it. Ive no idea when or why it was attributed to The Beatles.
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Re: Song Of The Week - If I Fell
« Reply #64 on: June 10, 2015, 02:39:30 AM »


Well, you know, I'm not vehement about it. I just can't think of any other song that's very much like it. I'm possibly just overlooking something. I'll give the Cole cut a listen. Maybe that's my missing link. But if it's the one I'm thinking of, I couldn't see much similarity.

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Re: Song Of The Week - If I Fell
« Reply #65 on: June 10, 2015, 02:58:05 AM »


Hmm...Well, here it is...



Not really hitting the spot for me, but I suppose the two songs must be sharing a few notes here and there, being as how they're both within the range of human audibility.

I really don't mean to be difficult. I just don't connect those two very much. I certainly welcome any helpful suggestions in my quest to confirm that "If I Fell" is not unique. So far I'm failing miserably.

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Re: Song Of The Week - If I Fell
« Reply #66 on: June 10, 2015, 08:13:52 AM »

The distinction between 45s and LPs was almost a standard thing in the UK in the 60s.
The Beatles, The Stones, The Who, Them, Dusty etc. all regularly released stand-alone A-sides as well as, let us not forget, stand-alone B-sides.

Might as well mention it again.....if you bought every Stones' 45 and LP from 'Come On' in June 1963 to Let It Bleed in December 1969, you repeated just two songs, 'Little by Little' and 'Off the Hook'. The wheels only came off when they left Decca.
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Re: Song Of The Week - If I Fell
« Reply #67 on: June 10, 2015, 09:48:03 AM »

It probably does sound unusual as it was done using that four square beat that modern rock used. I've always thought it sounds like a Doo wop type of song with the recitative at the beginning to give it a more 30s musical sound. But while a Doo wop would have employed a more swing type beat the Beatles were using a solid four/four pattern. So it does sound different I think. As usual the Beatles were adapting different forms for the new era.

I notice Pollacks page also credits the bridges as a bit unusual in the way they grow as an extension from the verse. I'm not sure it's a lot different from a double bridge type song but if you do think it has unique qualities you're in good company.

It's a wonderfully constructive song. I really like it.
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Re: Song Of The Week - If I Fell
« Reply #68 on: February 29, 2016, 06:17:14 PM »

I always felt :"If I Fell" should have been a single. 

 It was a U.S. single, and now I hear it was a rare U.K. import single.  Anyone else aware of that?  :o
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Re: Song Of The Week - If I Fell
« Reply #69 on: March 01, 2016, 02:05:43 AM »

It was a U.S. single, and now I hear it was a rare U.K. import single.  Anyone else aware of that?  :o


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