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lennonlemon

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Re: Getting into the music business.
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2005, 02:03:03 AM »

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And I'm not trying to bring you down or anything, I just think you should be realistic and see that it's impossible to become someone in the music industry if writing lyrics -even if you're the best there is- is the only thing you can do. Since there are thousands of people out there that are just as ambitious as you that can write lyrics AND write music AND perform that music.

listen to biscuit and pick up a guitar or something.
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Re: Getting into the music business.
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2005, 03:07:43 AM »

Wayne L.  

You stick to your lyrics.  I've been in nashville now for almost twenty years and there are plenty of guys around who do nothing but write lyrics.  My buddy Jim Brown had some nice music lyring around until his friend Don Rollins showed him some lyrics titled "Five O'Clock Somewhere."  Now he's got a number one song.

I think the pendulum is actually swinging away from the purely singer-songwriter thing.  There are more big-time artists who are "created" by producers who write or work with teams of writers.  The producer is becoming the star again.

I post my lyrics and have clips of my songs on my website www.phoebeclaire.com.

As long as you have them copyrighted, you shouldn't have any problems with theft.  And anyhow, the good writers are good enough to steal your stuff and not violate the copyright so you might as well get your stuff out anyway.  

I've got a song about the Sgt. Pepper Album cover on my website now.  Also "I Saw John Kennedy Today" which is getting alot of downloads.  I've got a song about Pete Best that I need to demo up properly.  

Anyhow the internet is a great place to try material out.  See what flies and what doesn't.  

P.S. as far as lyricists go, Robert Hunter (Grateful Dead) is a good model.  He collaborated with Jerry and company on their most classic songs.  
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Re: Getting into the music business.
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2005, 11:13:53 AM »

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I don't like Bon Jovi, but he sells millions of records so it's an undeniable fact that he must be doing SOMETHING very right...

A good manager, a good haircut, a good image & living on his only one great classic rock album SWW even though his hardcore fans would disagree.  
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Re: Getting into the music business.
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2005, 01:17:14 PM »

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I'm an aspiring lyricist with a bright future
 
 become rich & famous.

 while I'm not a singer or musician but I have what it takes to be successful.
 

so what are your plans then wayne ? do you just want to be a lyricist and just write lyrics for other bands ? you stated that you cant sing or play, but you want to become  rich and famous..as it stands it dont look like a BRIGHT FUTURE !  so if you want to be the Beirnie Taupin type, then your gonna need your Elton John ! I hope you dont take this the wrong way wayne.. im not having a pop at you .. im just curious :)
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Re: Getting into the music business.
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2005, 01:20:38 PM »

coz i know how bloody hard it is to break into the music industry.. IVE TRIED and so has Apple Beatle ....
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Re: Getting into the music business.
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2005, 03:04:34 PM »

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so what are your plans then wayne ? do you just want to be a lyricist and just write lyrics for other bands ? you stated that you cant sing or play, but you want to become
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Re: Getting into the music business.
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2005, 04:08:53 PM »

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A good manager, a good haircut, a good image & living on his only one great classic rock album SWW even though his hardcore fans would disagree.
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Re: Getting into the music business.
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2005, 05:29:41 PM »

I think you are incredibly narrow-minded Wayne.
How old are you? 8?
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Re: Getting into the music business.
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2005, 06:55:09 PM »

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I like to think of myself more as a Bernie Taupin since I'm a lyricist & not a singer or musician.

Bernie Taupin would be nothing without Elton John. You don't have an Elton John.
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Re: Getting into the music business.
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2005, 06:56:46 PM »

Wow, that must be one of the coolest sentences I ever came up with: "You don't have an Elton John". That should be on a t-shirt or something. :)
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Re: Getting into the music business.
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2005, 04:39:43 PM »

I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but if you haven't made it by now, you'll probably never make it. Now, more than ever, the entertainment industry is youth-obsessed.
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Re: Getting into the music business.
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2005, 04:45:46 PM »

No offence Mairi but in Wayne's defence here.....'Making it in the music business' is a loose term...Great words are great words. One decent set of lyrics published and the royalty cheques never stop coming in.

There are many avenues of music that are'nt youth obsessed, although if it's huge glory and wealth your seeking then you are absolutely right.
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Re: Getting into the music business.
« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2005, 06:24:55 PM »

Can you share some of your lyrics with us Wayne?
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Re: Getting into the music business.
« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2005, 09:36:54 PM »

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Can you share some of your lyrics with us Wayne?

No, cause he's affraid we'll steal the copyrights...  ::) ;D
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Re: Getting into the music business.
« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2005, 10:26:45 PM »

Or Elton.. :)
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Re: Getting into the music business.
« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2005, 10:28:02 PM »

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Or Elton.. :)

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Re: Getting into the music business.
« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2005, 09:21:45 AM »

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Or Elton.. :)

Or Bernie...
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Re: Getting into the music business.
« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2005, 09:58:21 AM »

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Re: Getting into the music business.
« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2005, 08:46:28 PM »

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How much fun is this!.
Those peers you talk about, they went out there and did it when they were young.

Yeah... A has-been is in my book still a lot better than a wannabe...
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