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Penny Lane/SF on Sgt Pepper
« on: March 03, 2005, 09:04:07 AM »

Just been reading about G Martin saying the Penny Lane/SFFE single being the biggest mistake of his career.
So, what if it hadn't been released as a single and they were on Sgt Pepper. Where would you put them, and what would you drop?
I would love to drop Within you Without You, but the album has to have a George song, so no. But I'd drop Good Morning and put Penny Lane as the opener for side two, to give it a more upbeat start.
Drop Fixing a Hole and slot SFFE on side 1 between She's Leaving Home and Mr Kite?
Any thoughts?
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Re: Penny Lane/SF on Sgt Pepper
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2005, 10:34:44 AM »

made a tape years ago

side1

splhcb
with a little help..
lucy
getting better
strawberry
she's leaving home
mr. kite

side 2

within you..
penny lane
lovely rita
good morning
splhcb (reprise)
a day in the life


also made a CD

splhcb
with a little help..
lucy
getting better
fixing a hole
strawberry
she's leaving home
mr. kite
within you..
when i'm 64
penny lane
lovely rita
i am the walrus
good morning
splhcb (reprise)
a day in the life
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Re: Penny Lane/SF on Sgt Pepper
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2005, 10:42:23 AM »

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made a tape years ago

side1

splhcb
with a little help..
lucy
getting better
strawberry
she's leaving home
mr. kite

side 2

within you..
penny lane
lovely rita
good morning
splhcb (reprise)
a day in the life



Wow! Almost the same, except we've inverted Penny lane/Within You...
What about when I'm 64? Your a brave man to drop it.
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Re: Penny Lane/SF on Sgt Pepper
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2005, 08:04:30 PM »

Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
With A Little Help From My Friends
Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
Getting Better
Strawberry Fields Forever
Fixing A Hole
She's Leaving Home
Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite
Penny Lane
Within You Without You
When I'm 64
Lovely Rita
Good Morning, Good Morning
Sgt. Pepper (Reprise)
A Day In The Life
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Re: Penny Lane/SF on Sgt Pepper
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2005, 08:05:41 PM »

^ Too many tracks dude. Somethings gotta go.
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Re: Penny Lane/SF on Sgt Pepper
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2005, 08:09:02 PM »

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^ Too many tracks dude. Somethings gotta go.

The reason I dropped nothing is because nothing really needs to be dropped, not to mention Abbey Road had more tracks than that.  The Reprise also leads into A Day In The Life, ditto for the first two tracks, so you basically have 14 right there with the single.
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Re: Penny Lane/SF on Sgt Pepper
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2005, 08:16:03 PM »

^I can't be bothered adding the times up, but would they physically fit. And would they have wanted so many tracks?
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Re: Penny Lane/SF on Sgt Pepper
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2005, 08:16:22 PM »

Frightwolf, I think the point is that you have too much to fit on a vinyl album.
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Re: Penny Lane/SF on Sgt Pepper
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2005, 08:17:33 PM »

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Frightwolf, I think the point is that you have too much to fit on a vinyl album.

I gotcha now.  I was thinking in terms of the CD, and in that case, that would be it.  *goes back to drawing board to figure out how to fit this on a vinyl*
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Re: Penny Lane/SF on Sgt Pepper
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2005, 08:20:21 PM »

Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
With A Little Help From My Friends
Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
Getting Better
Fixing A Hole
She's Leaving Home
Penny Lane

Lovely Rita
Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite
When I'm 64
Strawberry Fields Forever
Sgt. Pepper (Reprise)
A Day In The Life

k, I would probably remove WYWY and Good Morning Good Morning, Penny Lane closes Side A, and make Lovely Rita the opener to Side B.  Better :)
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Re: Penny Lane/SF on Sgt Pepper
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2005, 08:23:44 PM »

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k, I would probably remove WYWY and Good Morning Good Morning, Penny Lane closes Side A, and make Lovely Rita the opener to Side B.
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Re: Penny Lane/SF on Sgt Pepper
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2005, 08:25:03 PM »

I'd go with a DOUBLE LP, an idea they toyed with originally. Here are the tracks to go on the album.

All the tracks on the issued album, PLUS ...

Only A Northern Song (was to go on the album, until George surfaced with Within You)
SFF
Penny Lane
All Together Now
It's All Too Much
Baby You're A Rich Man
You Know My Name (imo, this fits right into the Pepper groove)

If you use the full eight-minute version of Too Much, and a full length You Know My Name, this is another album's worth of material. All songs were recorded first during Pepper sessions, or straight after.

Just think what a mind-blower of an album THAT would be. Choose your own running order.
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Re: Penny Lane/SF on Sgt Pepper
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2005, 08:25:10 PM »

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Who's gonna tell George "sorry mate, no song of yours on this album"? I would drop it to, but i don't think politics would allow it. Don't want Mr Harrison walking out
Totally with you on Good Morning. :)

Good point, but we're asking where I would put them ;).  And we let George not have a song on his Rooftop Gig, so he'll forgive us... hopefully  ;D
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Re: Penny Lane/SF on Sgt Pepper
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2005, 08:32:43 PM »

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. Choose your own running order.

I wish you'd had a go. I'd like to see what you come up with.

anyone got any thoughts on putting Rain/Paperback Writer on Revolver?
Normal rules, at least one George and 1 Ringo song, fair mix of John and Paul.
Sorry if I'm going on, but I love this kind of sh*t.
(and I don't think we've done the single White Album properly either :P
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Re: Penny Lane/SF on Sgt Pepper
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2005, 08:42:17 PM »

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I wish you'd had a go. I'd like to see what you come up with.


OK, here we go:

DISK ONE
Side 1 As commercial version
Side 2
Baby You're A Rich Man
You Know My Name
All Together Now
Only A Northern Song
DISK TWO
Side 3
SFF
Penny Lane
It's All Too Much
Side 4 As commercial version

I know Sides 2 and 3 only total about 30 minutes, but there's some pretty heavy listening there.

This double strikes me as being MUCH MORE psychedelic than the single Pepper album! Time to burn it - it would fit on one CD!
 
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Re: Penny Lane/SF on Sgt Pepper
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2005, 08:46:14 PM »

^Phew. It's a lot to take in. Side 3 does look a bit thin, but your right, the ears will know better than the eyes.
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Re: Penny Lane/SF on Sgt Pepper
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2005, 08:47:34 PM »

Oh, that's easy.  I'd get rid of Good Day Sunshine and Love You To.

Taxman
Eleanor Rigby
I'm Only Sleeping
Here There and Everywhere
She Said She Said
Yellow Submarine
Rain


And Your Bird Can Sing
For No One
Doctor Robert
Paperback Writer
I Want To Tell You
Got To Get You Into My Life
Tomorrow Never Knows

I'd make Rain close off, but really, SSSS wouldn't be a bad way to close off Side 1 itself =P.  I'd put PW between Doctor robert and I Want To Tell You, so we cycle John/Paul/John/Paul/George/Paul/John, and it varies.  And Your Bird Can Sing is a better opener to side 2 than Good Day Sunshine anyway.  How's that? :)
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Re: Penny Lane/SF on Sgt Pepper
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2005, 08:49:50 PM »

Get rid of nothing. P Writer and Rain would still fit on a vinyl album, with all 14 original Revolver songs.
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Re: Penny Lane/SF on Sgt Pepper
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2005, 08:52:05 PM »

Hey kev - how about a separate thread for a Revolver remake? Could get pretty confusing ...
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Re: Penny Lane/SF on Sgt Pepper
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2005, 08:52:34 PM »

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Oh, that's easy.
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