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Re: Roger Waters
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2005, 03:47:10 AM »

Yeah, he's a genius. But I still think he gets too much credit. He wrote the Wall, but he wasn't alone. It still was collaborative to some point on that album. NOT on the Final Cut though. He was a complete ass to Rick. He belittled him, he critisized his playing, he made him feel worthless and then kicked him out of the band. David said he played mental games with all of them. If wasn't until Dave's Floyd toured that Rick and Nick regained their confidence and were able to play. They didn't even play on the first Dave Floyd album because they felt like crap. Roger may be a genius, but I think his ego is bigger than most rock stars. EVen John or Pauls.
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Re: Roger Waters
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2005, 03:52:00 AM »

great post sandra...
true he had problems with the band, but the music was there...and it was great...
but yeah he's an ass for doing what he did, but still a genius musically...
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Re: Roger Waters
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2005, 05:29:56 AM »

Yes genius but jerk. How about David? Think he's a genius? I think he came up with a lot of the music we know and love. Just doesn't get much credit.
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Re: Roger Waters
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2005, 03:43:46 PM »

for playing music he's really good, good emotion, but for writing it he cant be compared to Waters in any way...
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Re: Roger Waters
« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2005, 12:58:16 AM »

i cant see how someone can kick one of their bandmates out fo the band

I think david glimour was great but roger waters has more musical talent
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Re: Roger Waters
« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2005, 01:18:41 AM »

Quote from: number14
i cant see how someone can kick one of their bandmates out fo the band

I think david glimour was great but roger waters has more musical talent

yeah exactly, gilmour was good, but waters just better

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Re: Roger Waters
« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2005, 02:14:27 AM »

Roger knows he's not a genius--and that's what drives his crazy.  He could never write songs like Syd who was a bona-fide genius.  
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Re: Roger Waters
« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2005, 04:32:11 AM »

roger was a genius, but like may of you have said, his ego was HUGE.
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Re: Roger Waters
« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2005, 04:54:28 AM »

Paul, george, and Ringo were asses to Yoko....but we still love them, or think thier a genius, etc. watever you say
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Re: Roger Waters
« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2005, 05:08:05 AM »

It happens all the time. Dennis DeYoung who founded Styx got booted. David Lee Roth and the VH brothers, Axl and the rest of GNR, the list goes on. Somehow Mick and Keith have kept it together and the Glimmer Twins are like oil and water.
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Re: Roger Waters
« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2005, 05:31:44 AM »

But the thing is, the three other guys in Floyd felt so alienated by Waters. His ego completly took over. David was a stonger personality so he could handle it more, but the other guys couldn't. I think Roger is a genius, but that he needed the other guys to fully interpret his visions. That's why some bands make it and others don't. You need the perfect combination. And people keep mentioning the Wall movie. Roger didn't write it. Only the music. He wasn't the sole creator of it. I love Roger, but I think he needs to get a grip.
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Re: Roger Waters
« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2005, 05:33:17 AM »

He only wrote the music to the wall film?  So all that intriguing dialogue wasnt him?  the movie was the music...
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Re: Roger Waters
« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2005, 05:41:12 AM »

His music was the catalyst for the concept of the film. He didn't agree with eveything they did with it though. Look, I LOVE Roger, I just think he's a bit full of himself that's all.
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Re: Roger Waters
« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2005, 12:14:34 AM »

Roger's obsession that he's not Syd:

1) Dark Side of the moon: the lunatic is on the grass-I'll meet you on the dark side of the moon (Roger joins Syd)
2) Wish you were here--green field/cold steel rail, etc.--using Syd-ish imagery (Roger would like to write the kind of surrealistic lines that came naturally to Syd--scattered needles, etc.--but you can tell he always had to work at it;
3) The Wall--especially movie where Bob Geldolf looks like Syd with cigarette, etc.  Roger can't make the hero of the film himself, but Syd.  

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