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John on stage
« on: June 23, 2005, 11:46:38 AM »

Was watching Anthology last night and thought that John looks really uncomfortable on stage. He doesn't seem to have any real stage presence (?), while the other 3 (especially Paul) seem to have real charisma.
And the way John stands really bugs me. It looks so uncool. Is there any reason he did that?
And I find his little spastic acts embarrassing (but I guess the world was different then). I think that it was probably a cover for his nerves though. Maybe.
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Re: John on stage
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2005, 11:55:39 AM »

Maybe he felt uncomfortable on stage because he couldn't see a thing. He should have worn his glasses, but he thought that wasn't cool. The way he stands, he leans over somewhat, like he's standing at the bar. Pulls up his shoulders and stands firm.
His spastic acts had been a part of his repertoire for a long long time. There are a lot of pictures with John acting this way. I think he just didn't know how to handle with spastic people and that didn't get better when they were brought in by hundreds at the front line at almost any beatles-concert. He just couldn't cope with it.
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Re: John on stage
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2005, 12:00:57 PM »

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. The way he stands, he leans over somewhat, like he's standing at the bar. Pulls up his shoulders and stands firm.
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I hear ya. I meant more the way he stands with his legs apart, knees bent, front on to the mike. Looks like he's had an accident. :)
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Re: John on stage
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2005, 12:13:18 PM »

I know from singing lessons that in fact it is correct to stand like this: legs apart and knees bent. I doubt if John ever took lessons, maybe he heard it somewhere and thought it might work out ok. I agree that the way he does it, it looks somewhat silly and not natural.
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Re: John on stage
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2005, 09:09:14 PM »

the way he stands - uncool?

It is so characteristic...

and sorry to say, but very cool!
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Re: John on stage
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2005, 04:26:12 PM »

Hmm, I really never minded it. I think he doesn't look that lame. He looks cool on my sig at least, which is from that period -- All Beatles do anyway!
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Re: John on stage
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2005, 11:10:25 PM »

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the way he stands - uncool?

It is so characteristic...

and sorry to say, but very cool!

It was very cool. It was John's own stance. Almost a signature, and if he was comfortable in that stance, who gives a f***?
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Re: John on stage
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2005, 11:51:55 PM »

I'm stepping in the mindfield, but I think John always looked 'stiff' because he was concentrating so he wouldnt screw up. I know i'm going to get called on this and I dont have the answer in front of me, but i've heard several times that even John admitted that he wasnt the best timekeeper. (guess i'll start searching for the quote now)

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Re: John on stage
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2005, 12:09:52 AM »

he was uncomfortable but he did it......there are worse ways to earn a buck....
he did kind of stand around his guitar tho...

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Re: John on stage
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2005, 12:10:37 AM »

oh and hey tkers

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Re: John on stage
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2005, 12:24:24 AM »

Hey ya bastard!

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Re: John on stage
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2005, 12:31:49 AM »

Why are people assuming he was uncomfortable or stiff? Maybe that's just the way he stood. I've seen other guitarists stand like that actually. Robbie Robertson for one. Anyway, he looked just fine to me. Does he stand like that later on in his career? I never noticed.
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Re: John on stage
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2005, 01:20:29 AM »

yeah at live peas in toronto he did........

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Re: John on stage
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2005, 12:29:26 AM »

i think johns odd behaivior on stage is awesome

Paul is the best to watch
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Re: John on stage
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2005, 10:48:20 AM »

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Paul is the best to watch

..because he's a natural..always had cool moves with his bass.
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Re: John on stage
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2005, 10:51:24 AM »

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..because he's a natural..always had cool moves with his bass.

I agree - Paul is the consumate showman. It looks like he was born to do it.
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« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2005, 03:38:32 PM »

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..because he's a natural..always had cool moves with his bass.

And like your avatar--John kind of bobbed to the rythm. He kept time perfectly.

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Re: John on stage
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2006, 10:31:46 AM »

From an interview with Tony Sheridan in 2002. Of course, the total interview is to be found here; The Tony Sheridan World Wide Forum

SEVERAL LIVERPUDLIAN ARTISTS, INCLUDING JOHN LENNON, COPIED YOUR HIGH-CHESTED GUITAR PLAYING AND YOUR WIDE-LEGGED STANCE ON STAGE. WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES OF PLAYING THE GUITAR LIKE THIS?
This position relieved pain (caused by the pressure of the guitar body on my bony lower ribs). It also looked like the early Elvis. The "wide-legged stance" was a preventive measure in two senses:

1) After fifteen beers one was less likely to fall off the stage.
2) There was less chafing at the crotch, caused by wet jeans (we sweated an awful lot) worn without underpants (musicians just threw the old unwashed ones away and couldn't afford new underwear on the pauper's salary we received in the clubs). Also, there were no facilities for washing anything, (including ourselves) anywhere in St. Paul's.

From this we deduced that the Germans only bought throw-away underwear. It also looked like the early Elvis. John assumed a similar stance for apparently similar reasons, plus the fact that Tony Sheridan knew more chords (mostly weird) than he did. Furthermore, he was anxious to stay on good terms with "the stupid twat".
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Re: John on stage
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2006, 09:09:24 PM »

I think George had more of a stiff stance than John. George didn't dance around much either, he stood their most of the time just playing. Hey, its tough to dance around and play the right notes.
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Re: John on stage
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2006, 10:11:35 PM »

Yeah. George had a stiff stance, but he also had this leg-shuffle thing going on from time to time.
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