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Re: Eleanor Rigby
« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2013, 12:20:48 AM »

Simply complexly brilliant song
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Re: Eleanor Rigby
« Reply #41 on: October 26, 2015, 08:10:58 AM »


-The lyrics were brainstormed among The Beatles.

there are so many conflicting stories about the origins of eleanor rigby's lyrics . .
paul has said he was inspired by visiting old age homes as a child and seeing lonely elderly people....
john had claimed to write 70% of the lyrics.... paul and john's friend pete shotton refuted that... then there are accounts that george and ringo had a part in the lyrics....
ringo is accredited with "sermon that no one will hear" and "darning his socks"
george is accredited with "all the lonely people"
- the idea of the priest and eleanor both being in the last verse at eleanor's funeral was suggested by pete shotton, (according to paul)
supposedly paul's original concept had eleanor and the preist linking up romantically in the last verse
awesome song

Therefore, I think the song should be credited to ALL the members of the band, so:
E. R. written by Paul McCartney, John Lennon, George Harrison & Ringo Starr, arranged & produced by George Martin. Joint effort - rather than Paul's 'solo' work.

But, the song is mainly known as Paul's (which it is - but the other band's members added their contribution).
Ringo & George each suggested a line to a song, so they have a credit for making the song so great.

(Yesterday was fully written by Paul BUT that one should be credited Martin - McCartney 'cause strings were G. M.'s idea.)

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Re: Eleanor Rigby
« Reply #42 on: October 26, 2015, 08:49:26 PM »

Interesting. I have to admit that after reading hundreds of books about the Beatles, I never knew that Ringo and George may have contributed those lines. Or Pete Shotton's suggestion.  Hmm...
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Re: Eleanor Rigby
« Reply #43 on: November 06, 2015, 03:21:10 PM »

We can make a nice 'EP' with different official versions of the song.  8)

1. ER (Anthology 2 - instrumental)
2. ER (Revolver)
3. ER / Julia (from Love album)
4. ER (Yellow Submarine Songtrack album)
5. ER (from George Martin's album George Martin Instrumentally Salutes the Beatle Girls)
(The last one has a quite different arrangement and it is not sung by the Beatles - but it is a nice variation of the song.)

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Re: Eleanor Rigby
« Reply #44 on: November 09, 2015, 09:45:42 PM »

I thought there isn't any connection between Doors and the Fab Four (except they both were great rock bands).
And then I hear this. Robby & Ray are playing 'Light My Fire' - and in the instrumental part of the song, Robby plays 'Eleanor'!!!

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(It starts at 5:52, repeated till about 6:25).

Just wow!  glassesslip
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Re: Eleanor Rigby
« Reply #45 on: November 10, 2015, 03:12:49 AM »

^

Yay Robby!  He's a true Beatles fan.    icon_good


Nice find real01!!
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Re: Eleanor Rigby
« Reply #46 on: June 26, 2016, 02:36:38 AM »

Simply complexly brilliant song
Works amazingly well as a standalone instrumental too.
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Re: Eleanor Rigby
« Reply #47 on: June 26, 2016, 03:01:32 AM »

Works amazingly well as a standalone instrumental too.

Yes it does. It blew me away the first time I heard it and it continues to.
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Re: Eleanor Rigby
« Reply #48 on: June 26, 2016, 04:09:48 AM »

Yes it does. It blew me away the first time I heard it and it continues to.
Yep. Track 21 on Anthology 2.
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Re: Eleanor Rigby
« Reply #49 on: June 26, 2016, 04:16:31 AM »

^^^

Now you've done it...I have to listen to it.  ;)
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Re: Eleanor Rigby
« Reply #50 on: June 26, 2016, 10:27:42 PM »

I do wonder if it can really be a complete coincidence about the gravestone at St Peter's Church. I mean how many other church's around Britain would you find another example of what is not I guess a common name? Thinking about it McCartney did pay a visit to his old home just a few months before the recording of Revolver when he went to see his dad which is a short hop away. His trip included the now infamous scooter accident. Is it possible he made a visit to the church?

I also remember reading perhaps in Pete Shotton's book that Lennon was really p*ssed off with Paul for asking pretty much everyone (including Mal) for help on the lyrics apart from him. He was really hurt by it.

Yesterday was fully written by Paul BUT that one should be credited Martin - McCartney 'cause strings were G. M.'s idea.)
That's not how songwriting credits work. Strings are an embellishment and not part of the song itself.
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Re: Eleanor Rigby
« Reply #51 on: June 27, 2016, 10:32:32 PM »

I do wonder if it can really be a complete coincidence about the gravestone at St Peter's Church. I mean how many other church's around Britain would you find another example of what is not I guess a common name? Thinking about it McCartney did pay a visit to his old home just a few months before the recording of Revolver when he went to see his dad which is a short hop away. His trip included the now infamous scooter accident. Is it possible he made a visit to the church?


It doesn't seem likely to be a coincidence. Especially with what I presume was not an everyday name. If it was Elizabeth Smith or something you could write that off to coincidence. I think it's fair to assume that Paul had seen the grave at some point. He didn't have to think consciously of it when writing. Just have it lodged somewhere in his head that came out when he needed a five syllable name that sounded authentic.
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