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Re: The Rolling Stones
« Reply #300 on: December 07, 2010, 11:48:30 PM »

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George Harrison said they rehearsed the tracks as one. The Who track you are talking about and the Abbey Road Medley are different. 

McCartney & Martin agree to try to link the last 8 songs on side two into a larger integrated formal unit. Uses song fragments from both McCartney and Lennon; repeats some melodies at strategic points. Starting with "You Never Give Me Your Money" "McCartney was playing with loops again and assembled a collection of Moog and other sounds for use on the album. “Paul took a plastic bag containing a dozen loose strands of mono tape into Abbey Road,” The effects—sounding like bells, birds, bubbles and crickets chirping allowed for a perfect cross fade in the medley from "Sun King" into "You Never Give Me Your Money". The melodies are repeated it flows, and it’s progressive rock like.


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« Reply #301 on: December 08, 2010, 12:23:49 AM »


hey, when the 70's kicked in and everyone went arty prog-rock... the stones went country western ! how great is that?  ;yes


Right...

Rolling Stones, Country Honk


Dead Flowers Rolling Stones




Then, in 1974, they entered their drunken sailor phase...

It's only Rock'n'Roll (but I like it) by The Rolling Stones,,'






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Re: The Rolling Stones
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« Reply #303 on: December 08, 2010, 01:33:20 PM »


i guess my only point was that prog rock or art rock (?) like any music genre must have multiple influences / starting points / milestones (in my opinion)

i think that sums it up. Abbey Road may have been prog-like (and the general consensus seems to be it is) but that's a long way from calling it the origins of prog rock. Like Nyfan says, new genres generally stem from many influences.
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« Reply #304 on: December 09, 2010, 02:59:55 AM »

i think that sums it up. Abbey Road may have been prog-like (and the general consensus seems to be it is) but that's a long way from calling it the origins of prog rock. Like Nyfan says, new genres generally stem from many influences.


The Beatles influence on prog is like their influence on heavy metal. The Beatles weren't exactly a small-time band no one had heard of. Take a song like “Helter Skelter” brutal arrangement and sound.  Saying it is inventing metal, that's a bit much. I think that it influenced the people who invented metal. Both Ozzy Osbourne and Lemmy Kilmister cite the Beatles as their favorite band of all time, and the reason they originally got into playing music. Between Black Sabbath and Motorhead, we have the entire genre of heavy metal pretty much at the trunk.

As for music, the Beatles touched on so many styles that it’s more like they shot off tangents song by song. Think about  “Hard Day’s Night” jangle pop/folk rock , Beatles For Sale  country rock, “Hide Your Love Away” contributing to the emergence of singer/songwriter, “Drive My Car” and power/pop, “Day Tripper” and hard rock, Tomorrow Never Knows” and psychedelic/modern electronic music, Sgt Pepper and concept albums, and on and on and on..

They were in the vanguard, and the mainstream followed them. Most of those groups you say you don't hear a Beatles influence on would tell you just how much they were influenced by the Beatles. Read these remarks by two members of King Crimson and then you will get what I am saying.

What sparked that original creative spark that
became prog rock?

Bill Buford:
The Beatles. They broke down every barrier that ever existed. Suddenly you could do anything after The Beatles. You could write your own music, make it ninety yards long, put it in 7/4, whatever you wanted.

Robert Fripp on Sgt Pepper
Robert Fripp- "When I was 20, I worked at a hotel in a dance orchestra, playing weddings, bar-mitzvahs, dancing, cabaret. I drove home and I was also at college at the time. Then I put on the radio (Radio Luxemburg) and I heard this music. It was terrifying. I had no idea what it was. Then it kept going. Then there was this enormous whine note of strings. Then there was this colossal piano chord. I discovered later that I'd come in half-way through Sgt. Pepper, played continuously. My life was never the same again".
Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys
"Upon first hearing Rubber Soul in December of 1965, Brian Wilson said, “I really wasn’t quite ready for the unity. It felt like it all belonged together. Rubber Soul was a collection of songs…that somehow went together like no album ever made before".
Pete Townshend of the Who   
"In a 1967 interview Pete Townshend of the Who commented "I think "Eleanor Rigby" was a very important musical move forward. It certainly inspired me to write and listen to things in that vein


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« Reply #305 on: December 09, 2010, 03:13:54 AM »

I think the remark by Bill Bruford is very very interesting, Ive heard Chris Squire from Yes say a similar thing, many early prog rock guys credit The Beatles for  creating the spark that became prog, difering time signatures, mellotron, the intro to Fixing A Hole.
Another thing Fripp said was that the wall of Guitars on 'I Want You" which slowly builds in intensity inspired the early sound of Crimson and in some tracks you can plainly hear that.
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« Reply #306 on: January 11, 2011, 11:08:11 PM »

I just got a DSD remastered CD of the UK version of The Rolling Stones "AFTERMATH". It is actually a very nice recording .... 'course I am a Stones fan
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« Reply #307 on: January 15, 2011, 08:18:51 PM »

Aftermath UK is much better than Aftermath US! )))
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« Reply #308 on: January 16, 2011, 12:07:56 AM »

Right, Jane.  They left out a few good songs on the US album.

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« Reply #309 on: January 16, 2011, 12:21:17 AM »

They left out a few good songs on the US album.


Like...

Rolling Stones - Mothers Little Helper - Honolulu- July 28, 1966





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rolling stones,out of time
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Re: The Rolling Stones
« Reply #310 on: January 16, 2011, 05:21:48 AM »

Mother's Little Helper The Rolling Stones



The Rolling Stones - Out Of Time



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« Reply #311 on: January 16, 2011, 05:39:54 AM »

Out Of Time....one great song by The Rolling Stones.  But it was Chris Farlowe who took it to #1

Chris Farlowe - Out Of Time [Excellent quality]
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« Reply #312 on: January 16, 2011, 05:40:51 AM »

Hey!  This bossa nova version is pretty good...

Bossa n Stones - Out of Time



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« Reply #313 on: January 16, 2011, 03:42:20 PM »

Mother's Little Helper The Rolling Stones



This is probably in my top 5 favorite RS songs :)

But my favorite has to be either Angie or Wild Horses....
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« Reply #314 on: January 30, 2011, 05:17:10 AM »

Dig this...

The Rolling Stones on SHINDIG! - #2


The Rolling Stones on Shindig!   Suzie Q and Heart Of Stone


No Shindig Dancers though   :(
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« Reply #315 on: January 31, 2011, 05:07:26 AM »

It's All Over Now / The Rolling Stones


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« Reply #316 on: January 31, 2011, 05:14:38 AM »

The Last Time

Rolling Stones - The Last Time (1965)


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« Reply #317 on: June 18, 2011, 04:30:01 AM »

I like almost all of the big 60s bands, but somehow I just can't get into the Stones, even though I really tried. I even got the 40 Licks double CD and tried to enjoy it, but I just really don't like the Rolling Stones.

I felt the same way about the Stones until last year, when I decided to give their classic albums the chance of be listened several times. Now I can say they are one of my favourite bands, though not at the level of the Beatles and the Who, but I'm glad that I finally dig them, especially what they did from 1965 to 1972. I consider Let It Bleed to be their truly masterpiece.
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« Reply #318 on: June 18, 2011, 04:41:42 AM »

It took you long enough to find out, Nowhere Man!    ;D   
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« Reply #319 on: June 18, 2011, 04:48:10 AM »

It took you long enough to find out, Nowhere Man!    ;D   

Yeah, really! I've always given other 60's bands a space in my heart and mind, but somehow the Stones didn't get that from me. Maybe they are too big and there was only space for one big band, but I opened my mind and heart and now they're there too! ;D
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