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Re: lets give some credit to HAROLD PHILLIPS
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2007, 10:54:31 AM »

Ah, lord Woodbine. Interesting stories Marshall. Thanx for that.
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Re: lets give some credit to HAROLD PHILLIPS
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2007, 11:36:40 AM »

i wish there was more...allan always got credit but woody did more...

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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2007, 01:40:48 AM »

Yeah, those were some pretty cool links Marshall.

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Re: lets give some credit to HAROLD PHILLIPS
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2007, 02:51:57 AM »

Nice read.  Forget Backbeat.  Now this would be a great Beatles movie.  The young Beatles and Lord Woodbine in the van.  
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Re: lets give some credit to HAROLD PHILLIPS
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2007, 07:20:31 AM »

Aren't there any more pictures of Woody besides the one at the War Memorial ('Their Name Liveth...')?
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Re: lets give some credit to HAROLD PHILLIPS
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2007, 09:43:40 AM »

i can only find that one and my avatar one...

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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2007, 09:52:07 AM »

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Re: lets give some credit to HAROLD PHILLIPS
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2007, 12:09:24 AM »

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I bet this isn't him, is it? http://www.musclephotos.com/prtfolio/harold/harold2.html


I guess while the Beatles were popping amphetamines in the Van, he was shooting HGH.   ;D
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2007, 03:26:46 PM »

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I bet this isn't him, is it? http://www.musclephotos.com/prtfolio/harold/harold2.html

no thats not him...he was a jazz musician in the late 50s...i don't think he was aging that good....

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Re: lets give some credit to HAROLD PHILLIPS
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2007, 05:21:27 PM »

PC, you just don't know how those hormones work!   ;D

Paul looks like he could use some 'roids.  
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Re: lets give some credit to HAROLD PHILLIPS
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2007, 06:46:54 PM »

hema?
williams was a sneaky bastard...he tried to sell the star club tapes to george and ringo in the early seventies....he stole woodys lime light....his book was full of half truths and was probally more of a crow of vanity than a history of the era...

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« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2007, 11:04:36 AM »

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hema?
williams was a sneaky bastard...he tried to sell the star club tapes to george and ringo in the early seventies....he stole woodys lime light....his book was full of half truths and was probally more of a crow of vanity than a history of the era...

Didn't Paul say about Allan's book: "Congratulations on your book, Allan. There's actually some things in it that are true."
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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2007, 09:52:29 AM »

But, has Allan Williams got too much credit over the years? Has he made himself more important (by his book for instance) than he really was in the Beatles history? I understood Mona Best arranged a lot for The Beatles in the early years, but she hardly ever gets mentioned. Allan Williams has painted an image of himself as a hardworking man who is just trying to earn some money in a more or less honest way. I guess he arranged some things and booked The Beatles in his clubs and Hamburg. But what else?
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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2007, 10:28:04 AM »

Here's another link:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20000707/ai_n14327504

and one about the black music scene in Liverpool in the 50's:

http://www.geocities.com/soulpooluk/remember.htm
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« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2007, 10:52:41 AM »

Very interesting reads. Thanks Paul.
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Re: lets give some credit to HAROLD PHILLIPS
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2007, 07:34:38 PM »

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But, has Allan Williams got too much credit over the years? Has he made himself more important (by his book for instance) than he really was in the Beatles history? I understood Mona Best arranged a lot for The Beatles in the early years, but she hardly ever gets mentioned. Allan Williams has painted an image of himself as a hardworking man who is just trying to earn some money in a more or less honest way. I guess he arranged some things and booked The Beatles in his clubs and Hamburg. But what else?
yeah true mona did...but that was mostly in her basement tho.....the casbah club was her basement...so does that really count???those english were weird cramming kids in like sardines,and those things were damp and humid..i bet that was a cool assed party,all nighters i bet...mona fecking one of the student fans...just a typical basement party officer...my son and his 50 friends..no they are drinking tea......i wonder where cellar hanging out became cool?who started cellar parties???over here its garages....the beatles were atcually a cellar band so the cellar is underground so they were part of the underground music scene...it so logical...tara

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Re: lets give some credit to HAROLD PHILLIPS
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2007, 09:15:06 AM »

Could this possibly be Woody? Pictures taken 6th April 1962, New Brighton.


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Re: lets give some credit to HAROLD PHILLIPS
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2007, 09:34:03 AM »

The date is most probably wrong, Paul. Not sure about the guy on the pictures tho. If I get the right date, I can look it up.
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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2007, 10:11:19 AM »

Quote from: 63
The date is most probably wrong, Paul. Not sure about the guy on the pictures tho. If I get the right date, I can look it up.

Sorry, that'll be 1962. And I've just found out it's Emile Ford.
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