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Paul is Dead
« on: June 26, 2004, 12:24:34 AM »

I think that it was a joke intentionally done by the Beatles and here's why.  The hoax wasn't made public until about 1969 by the DJ in Michigan or something.  But on the White Album in Glass Onion, John says, "And Here's another clue for you all, the Walrus was Paul" In my mind this shows that they were setting it up.
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Re: Paul is Dead
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2004, 02:32:41 AM »

Interesting....and it could help fuel record sales.....but I think John's line is just a coincidence...
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2004, 03:17:21 AM »

Coincidence.

The bit on Glass Onion was just a part of the bigger theme of the song.  Like peeling away layers of their music (which they all hated) to try and find the 'real' meaning, this song was a swipe at obsessed fans.  Including that line.
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2004, 08:51:45 PM »

I think it was just a joke that the Beatles were playing on the fans in the 60's because some were looking for something way too deep in the lyrics along with album covers that wasn't there.
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2004, 04:50:58 PM »

I believe it was coincidence at first.  However, once the Beatles were aware of it, they marketed to it.  I think the fans invented conjoured it up, not the Beatles. The Beatles just played off of it.
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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2004, 05:29:52 AM »

I agree with scoopdogg73 that it initially was a coincidence.  Then once they realized how many people were buying into it, they made it into an ongoing "joke".
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Re: Paul is Dead
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2004, 08:02:35 PM »

it's the more stupid news of century
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Re: Paul is Dead
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2004, 08:48:12 PM »

It's not like the Beatles never put anything hidden in their songs.  Backwards guitars, the word "tit" in "Girl" ... the list goes on and on.  I think it's possible.

Some of the clues are a little far reaching, but have you ever played the number nines in "Rev9" backwards?  Whether it's a coincedence or not, it's there, "turn me on dead man."  You don't have to be stoned to hear it, it's plain as day.  The other creepy thing is putting a mirror halfway in the LONELY HEARTS on the Sgt Pepper bass drum.  Eleven nine he die.
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Re: Paul is Dead
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2004, 09:02:58 PM »

Scoopdogg had it I think.
I think it was a coincidence at first,but then I think they just kind of rolled with it.
You have to try PRETTY hard to catch some of these things though.
I've actually listened to the end of I'm So Tired backwards and I must say it is pretty hard to hear.
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Re: Paul is Dead
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2004, 01:55:10 AM »

But why wouldn't any of them ever admit it? They seem to be pretty open about the things they've done. It does seem like a big coincidence though.
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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2004, 02:32:24 AM »

[quote by=Maccalvr link=Blah.pl?b=cc,m=1088209474,s=9 date=1088646910]But why wouldn't any of them ever admit it? They seem to be pretty open about the things they've done. It does seem like a big coincidence though. [/quote]

It is.

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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2004, 05:57:51 AM »

Exactly.  For example, look at JFK's conspiracy theories.  Everyone from LBJ to Castro supposedly had some involvement in his assassination.  Don't forget the Mafia and even Frank Sinatra.

But Oswald acted alone, or did he...
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Re: Paul is Dead
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2004, 11:18:51 PM »

I think it was a joke, it's a pretty funny one at that, I mean could you believe being able to make a mass amount of people believe something like that? It's hillarious.
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Re: Paul is Dead
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2004, 03:23:55 PM »

I think at first it was a cowincadence that turned into a joke.
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Re: Paul is Dead
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2004, 02:31:45 PM »

if only they discussed it on Anthology, we might be able to know for sure.  However that Glass Onion line convinced me that the Beatles had at least partial involvement in it.
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« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2004, 06:23:20 PM »

[quote by=Herecomesyoursun link=Blah.pl?b=cc,m=1088209474,s=14 date=1088865105]if only they discussed it on Anthology, we might be able to know for sure.
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Re: Paul is Dead
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2004, 08:13:45 PM »

yeah but before 1969, no one was reading the 'Paul is Dead' bit in the lyrics.  Yes it is a song about that, but why would they include a bit shunning a group that didnt even exist yet?
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Re: Paul is Dead
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2004, 09:38:47 PM »

It is NOT a song about PID.
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« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2004, 01:23:35 PM »

Ooh, I love the PID theories - it's one of the first things (apart from the music) that first drew me into the Beatles legend. I love a bit of modern mythology now and then :)

However, I'm quite sure it was just coincidences - you start with an idea in your head and suddenly everything seems to work perfectly with it (I've tried it myself, looking for the number 42, and suddenly it's everywhere ;) ) But I have to admit that listening to backward music is quite creepy in itself...

In fact, I'm such a fan of the whole conspiracy theory I made a parody (with photgraphic 'evidence') called PTLVNAT (Paul Takes Little Vacations Now And Then) to entertain my sister - first disproving PID, before launching into an even sillier theory...
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Re: Paul is Dead
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2004, 01:49:29 AM »

[quote by=misterchaz link=Blah.pl?b=cc,m=1088209474,s=17 date=1088890727]It is NOT a song about PID.
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