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Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2005, 05:52:58 PM »

Those are actually my three favourite beatles albums, so it was really, really hard for me to choose my absolute favourite of the bunch. I ended up voting for Abbey Road, though, since side two of it is probably my favourite side of any album ever.
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Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
« Reply #41 on: March 16, 2005, 04:05:33 PM »

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Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
« Reply #42 on: March 16, 2005, 04:57:24 PM »

Abbey Road is creatively, musically & artistically superior to Revolver & Sgt. Pepper because it's a solid classic rock album.
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Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
« Reply #43 on: March 16, 2005, 06:02:28 PM »

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Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
« Reply #44 on: March 16, 2005, 06:38:31 PM »

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Abbey Road is creatively, musically & artistically superior to Revolver & Sgt. Pepper because it's a solid classic rock album.

I'm interested in why you said this. It's pretty obvious that Revolver and Sgt. Pepper's are both creatively better than Abbey Road, whether someone likes Abbey Road better or not. Abbey Road... well, even though I don't like it that much, I realize it's a good album, but it doesn't push the envelope in the way that Revolver and Sgt. Pepper's do.
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Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
« Reply #45 on: March 16, 2005, 07:34:18 PM »

Becasue its solid classic rock, means its better?

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Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
« Reply #46 on: March 16, 2005, 08:44:48 PM »

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Abbey Road is creatively, musically & artistically superior to Revolver & Sgt. Pepper because it's a solid classic rock album.

I've got to disagree VERY STRONGLY with you there Wayne. Most of Abbey Road is not what most informed people would call "ROCK". And I'm surprised you do.

Abbey Road has a lot of what I like to call "punched-up MOR" stuff. I have in  mind here Maxwell, Darling, and the medleys from Money onwards. Very smooth, very ordered, very not-in-your-face. Even Oh Darling and parts of the medleys feel contrived ("Now we'll do a fast number. Oh, and we must add some more bass to that track from yesterday.")

As you would expect, the "genuine" rock comes from the largely uninterested Lennon, when he does Come Together and I Want You.
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Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
« Reply #47 on: March 16, 2005, 08:46:54 PM »

Quote from: Mairi

I'm interested in why you said this. It's pretty obvious that Revolver and Sgt. Pepper's are both creatively better than Abbey Road, whether someone likes Abbey Road better or not. Abbey Road... well, even though I don't like it that much, I realize it's a good album, but it doesn't push the envelope in the way that Revolver and Sgt. Pepper's do.

I'm going with Mairi on this one, Wayne.
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Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
« Reply #48 on: March 18, 2005, 04:33:06 AM »

revolver... a week ago it would've been abbey road
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Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
« Reply #49 on: March 18, 2005, 04:42:14 AM »

Abbey Road was Great.
 All Rock wasn't the intention. The Beatles were breaking up. I don't think anyone really cared at the time. Historically it was still miles ahead of the competition when it was released. Come Together and Oh Darling had sounds, textures and riffs that were ground-breaking. I Want You can be considered early Heavy Metal.
The band was kicking hard on the medley on side two. The Beatles were always about diversity in their albums. Ballads, rockers, vocals, whimsical tunes.  Abbey Road is just another stellar example.
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Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
« Reply #50 on: March 18, 2005, 06:26:32 AM »

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Abbey Road was Great.
 All Rock wasn't the intention. The Beatles were breaking up. I don't think anyone really cared at the time. Historically it was still miles ahead of the competition when it was released. Come Together and Oh Darling had sounds, textures and riffs that were ground-breaking. I Want You can be considered early Heavy Metal.
The band was kicking hard on the medley on side two. The Beatles were always about diversity in their albums. Ballads, rockers, vocals, whimsical tunes.
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Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
« Reply #51 on: April 06, 2005, 02:19:41 AM »

Sergeant Pepper is the greatest of them all, I feel. It usd to blow my mind when I listened to it as a kid, and with the right kind of ears I can remember what it was like to be so affected by it.
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Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
« Reply #52 on: April 06, 2005, 02:23:16 AM »

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I've got to disagree VERY STRONGLY with you there Wayne. Most of Abbey Road is not what most informed people would call "ROCK". And I'm surprised you do.

Abbey Road has a lot of what I like to call "punched-up MOR" stuff.

To be frank that's something of a modern perspective. Abbey Road is really a rock album, through and through, it only sounds a little like MOR to a degree today because of the way our perceptions have shifted. A lot of Meatloaf's Bat Out Of Hell album sounds like bland MOR to me now, for example, but in its time it was definitely a rock album in essence.
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Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
« Reply #53 on: April 06, 2005, 04:15:12 AM »

Abbey Road is definitely my favorite.
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Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
« Reply #54 on: April 06, 2005, 08:29:30 PM »

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To be frank that's something of a modern perspective. Abbey Road is really a rock album, through and through, it only sounds a little like MOR to a degree today because of the way our perceptions have shifted. A lot of Meatloaf's Bat Out Of Hell album sounds like bland MOR to me now, for example, but in its time it was definitely a rock album in essence.

To be even franker, most of Abbey Road is "pop" - and doesn't come close to rock. We knew it then and many were quite disappointed with the album - but knew it was down to Macca!

The Beatles' music encompassed many "styles". Comfortable toe-tapping numbers were a McCartney forte: and Road is filled with them. Shall I list them? Maxwell, Money, Bathroom, Slumbers, Weight, The End from Macca; Something from George; Octopus from Ringo; King, Mustard, Pam from John.

I s'pose you could call Oh Darling rock. Because is a pseud's song (clearly largely written by Yoko). That leaves three good 'uns: Together, Something, Here Comes.

To be even franker still, Abbey Road is well, well overrated. At the moment it's 'in' to class Pepper as overrated. In ten years, people will be saying the same about Road. Then they'll be right!
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Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
« Reply #55 on: April 06, 2005, 09:45:05 PM »

I dont' necessarily think it's "in" to classify any Beatles record as overrated. And I don't think Abbey Road is even remotely overrated. Although Revolver and Sgt. Pepper were obviously far more innovative than Abbey Road, that doesn't mean that anyone who thinks Abbey Road is better than the others is wrong to do so.
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Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
« Reply #56 on: April 06, 2005, 09:59:22 PM »

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I dont' necessarily think it's "in" to classify any Beatles record as overrated. And I don't think Abbey Road is even remotely overrated. Although Revolver and Sgt. Pepper were obviously far more innovative than Abbey Road, that doesn't mean that anyone who thinks Abbey Road is better than the others is wrong to do so.

I beg your pardon, but it most definitely is the in-thing these days to class Pepper as overrated. Read the forums: over and over, many fans put Pepper down.

If you don't think Road is overrated, tell me where on Road is the creativity and innovation (which the Beatles were famous for)? Abbey Road is a journeyman album. John had long lost interest (he pops up now and then during the sessions, but sustained commitment - nope). George gets a couple of golden moments, but should have had much more - he had the GOOD songs. Ringo was allowed a novelty song.

As many a wag has said over the years: Abbey Road: Paul's first solo album.
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Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
« Reply #57 on: April 06, 2005, 10:57:57 PM »

I like Abbey Road and my opinion on whether it's overrated is probably a good medium between gl and ydoll's opinions. Nothing innovative happenend and there are numerous songs I could do without (like Her Majesty), but their musicianship was at its peak on this album (especially Paul) and you got to love Come Together, Something and Here Comes the Sun. Wish they would have replaced some of the bad tunes with other George tunes though.

I have nothing agaisnt all you Abbey Road lvoers, but I'm a tad-bit surprised its winng and winning by a lot.
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Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
« Reply #58 on: April 07, 2005, 01:27:41 AM »

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I beg your pardon, but it most definitely is the in-thing these days to class Pepper as overrated. Read the forums: over and over, many fans put Pepper down.

If you don't think Road is overrated, tell me where on Road is the creativity and innovation (which the Beatles were famous for)? Abbey Road is a journeyman album. John had long lost interest (he pops up now and then during the sessions, but sustained commitment - nope). George gets a couple of golden moments, but should have had much more - he had the GOOD songs. Ringo was allowed a novelty song.

As many a wag has said over the years: Abbey Road: Paul's first solo album.

Hmm, Oh! Darling, Maxwell, Money, Window, and the suite (which I consider one song tied together).
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Re: Sgt. Pepper Vs. Abbey Road Vs. Revolver
« Reply #59 on: April 07, 2005, 02:01:34 AM »

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As many a wag has said over the years: Abbey Road: Paul's first solo album.


Personally I find Abbey Road too inconsistent to be in a class with most Beatles albums, but I fail to see how it is Mcartneys first solo album.  Look at the song breakdown
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