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« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2004, 11:55:26 PM »

[quote by=The_End link=Blah.pl?b=starr,m=1089433720,s=19 date=1089589364]I have heard MANY Beatle tribute bands, including The Bootleg Beatles on numerous occasions, and I have NEVER heard a drummer faithfully copy Ringo's playing. Most drummers struggle with the intro to She Loves You and the breaks in Ticket To Ride - listen closely, their timing is WAY off.


BAng on about those two tracks in particular. Always the highbrow test on any Beatle cover attempt.
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« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2004, 12:21:26 AM »

[quote by=An_Apple_Beatle link=Blah.pl?b=starr,m=1089433720,s=20 date=1089590126]
BAng on about those two tracks in particular. Always the highbrow test on any Beatle cover attempt. [/quote]

Thank you - I thought it was just ME who noticed!! LOL ;D

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« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2004, 03:26:22 AM »

[quote by=number14 link=Blah.pl?b=starr,m=1089433720,s=17 date=1089578056]

You even think he kept his end up as much as lennon/mCcartney?

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Absolutely.
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« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2004, 03:31:26 AM »

[quote by=The_End link=Blah.pl?b=starr,m=1089433720,s=21 date=1089591686]

Thank you - I thought it was just ME who noticed!! LOL ;D[/quote]

You're right, of course.  And he DOES smash them puppies!

Another is From Me To You.

A big part of his sound was his backwards tom fills, and for a regular drummer that is very unnatural to replicate smoothly. 

Otherwise his general song structure is supportive, not non-stop fill like Keith...which was just what Who needed.

And I have always maintained Watts was an over-praised drummer...maybe he was great in the early 60's doing trad jazz but he has very very few identifiable licks.  He keeps a rock hard beat.  Beautifully.  But that's about it, not flashy at all.

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« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2004, 03:31:52 AM »

[quote by=Maccalvr link=Blah.pl?b=starr,m=1089433720,s=18 date=1089581465]

So how well does Zak do? [/quote]

Very well!

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« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2004, 10:12:12 AM »

Zak moonlights for oasis too aswell as The Who. Saw them at the Isle of Wight festival this year and Zak did not disappoint.

I think Noel Gallagher is 'made up' that  the blood of Beatle is in his 'Beatles' tribute group. lol. 

Apologies to hardcore Oasis fans but some of those tunes are'nt even subtley lifted from the true great well of Beatle songwriting. I would'nt have minded Oasis paying respects to their heroes in this way except for Liam Gallagher beginning to think he was big enough to slate Macca!! He earnt an enemy outta me that's for sure!
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« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2004, 12:06:00 PM »

[quote by=An_Apple_Beatle link=Blah.pl?b=starr,m=1089433720,s=25 date=1089627132]some of those tunes are'nt even subtley lifted from the true great well of Beatle songwriting.[/quote]

And some not so subtle! ;D

It's funny because I read recently that Liam Gallagher was begging to get backstage at Glastonbury to see Paul McCartney - eventually Paul's 'people' let him through!

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« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2004, 12:13:15 PM »

[quote by=The_End link=Blah.pl?b=starr,m=1089433720,s=26 date=1089633960]

And some not so subtle! ;D

It's funny because I read recently that Liam Gallagher was begging to get backstage at Glastonbury to see Paul McCartney - eventually Paul's 'people' let him through![/quote]

Your right I'd heard that too. Does anyone else remember the incident at a London airport a couple of years ago where Liam apparantly threw a copy of Macca's biography? At who or what I don't know.

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« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2004, 10:11:47 PM »

Amazing drummer, no doubt about it!
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« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2004, 01:31:17 AM »

Amazing!

A few innovative tunes-
Ticket To Ride - Who would have thought up a beat like that for a song?
I Feel Fine - Dare you to get the trills correctly on the toms throughout the entire song.
What Goes On - I've always hated and struggled with this shuffle. Damn that swishing motion on the hats.
A Day In The Life - Fills are incredible
Paperback Writer - Anyone finish a quick roll off on the rims lately? On purpose?
Get Back - The beginning beat to this song coming off the cymbals to the toms is legendary and still wows the drumming community for its uniqueness.

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« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2004, 02:13:13 AM »

[quote by=tkitna link=Blah.pl?b=starr,m=1089433720,s=29 date=1089682277]Amazing!

A few innovative tunes-
Ticket To Ride - Who would have thought up a beat like that for a song?

***Paul.  But Ritchie played it.
 
I Feel Fine - Dare you to get the trills correctly on the toms throughout the entire song.

***Excellent example.  It's tough!
What Goes On - I've always hated and struggled with this shuffle. Damn that swishing motion on the hats.

***Another great example...that casual shuffle on the hi hats...doing it is one thing...keeping it up for the whole song (or breaking from it then going back) is much tougher than one might think.

A Day In The Life - Fills are incredible

***I concur.

Paperback Writer - Anyone finish a quick roll off on the rims lately? On purpose?

***LOL  To this day I can't do a rimshot.  Not on purpose anyway.

Get Back - The beginning beat to this song coming off the cymbals to the toms is legendary and still wows the drumming community for its uniqueness.[/quote]

Hm. I'll have to listen for that one aspect again.

Maybe Ringo was a very good drummer who did amazing stuff often.  Nah, that would make him amazing in itself.  The guy was just that good.

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« Reply #31 on: July 13, 2004, 12:05:24 PM »

I hope Ringo reads all this! It's a shame we can't post it on HIS website! :)

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« Reply #32 on: July 13, 2004, 01:11:53 PM »

Hehe :)

Yeah the live footage of Ringo is amazing. I bet I've seen live footage that you guys haven't seen!

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« Reply #33 on: July 13, 2004, 01:39:31 PM »

[quote by=broady link=Blah.pl?b=starr,m=1089433720,s=32 date=1089724313]I bet I've seen live footage that you guys haven't seen!

1964 Adelaide, Australia[/quote]

I might have that - I  bought a copy of a Beatle's special broadcast on Australian TV years ago - it was called Rage. I remember there was a whole concert on there recorded during their first visit to Oz! I'll have to check that out later!

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« Reply #34 on: July 27, 2004, 04:43:16 PM »

[quote by=The_End link=Blah.pl?b=starr,m=1089433720,s=31 date=1089720324]I hope Ringo reads all this! It's a shame we can't post it on HIS website! :)[/quote]

Maybe he will who knows
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« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2004, 12:16:36 PM »

[quote by=number14 link=Blah.pl?b=starr,m=1089433720,s=34 date=1090946596]

Maybe he will who knows[/quote]

I hope so ;D

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« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2004, 11:39:49 PM »

Starr lay down a solid beat (Live perfromances) which the others could feed off.
I feel Ringo always gets the tag of bad Drummer* when connected with other drummers such as Ginger Baker, keith Moon etc..(both having totaly different styles)
Ringo's drumming on the early work is clear, pounding and Raw..and in later years we see great drumming in songs such as Rain, Yer Blues and Get Back.

A sound Musician, and one who could handle the material with ease and style.
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« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2004, 04:41:16 PM »

In the early years i ddint see him as a good drummer, later years it seemed he got better, maybe because of the drugs
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« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2004, 05:35:18 PM »

[quote by=number14 link=Blah.pl?b=starr,m=1089433720,s=37 date=1091637676]In the early years i ddint see him as a good drummer, later years it seemed he got better, maybe because of the drugs[/quote]

Ringo was never a big druggie.

However he did drink prodigiously.
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« Reply #39 on: August 04, 2004, 10:51:06 PM »

Well, his first Joint, he supposedly smoked the whole thing, like a cigerette...
We all know about his alcohol adventures..the 80's been the morning after.

I always see Ringo as a big drug taker...
Harrison is the one who loved drugs the most..and John.. thats the feeling I get.

Mccartney was more a Dope man.
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