no shirt yet dude......
PC31: my bad pc31. since we last spoke, I got caught up and pre-occupied with regular day job and travel for work. I have your addy to send it. My apologies, got WAY caught up with work stuff here.
Jane: Very cool if true. I know there was some talk about trying to get PBB/Haymans Green on the ballots for 3 different nominations, but hadn't seen any word yet whether official nominations were made yet. Do you have a source for what you heard there ? Thanks.
Randy: See Jane's comment about "we were speculating" on the merits of the theory, not about what latter day fans think about who was a better drummer.
NYfan: Regarding "at the end of the day, ringo had more charisma, etc." which perhaps makes for a good "at the end of the day" perspective in hindsight. However, back then, at the beginning
of the day, it was PB that had the popularity, and the looks, in the most popular group around. The band was not hurting for popularity or a shot of charisma. Even GM had said (and it's on tape at the beatlestory exhibit, word for word)that PB had more marketability than any of the others, and that was
before RS came on the scene. So, while many always feels compelled to say that it all worked out in the end, and that RS was the person for the job, bedford's theory above still seems to carry a lot of solid credibility in suggesting that the job was was stolen from PB due to what appears to be --in 47 year hindsight - -a $ issue that no one wanted to talk about,,,so, "ringo was better" became a better way to spin it.
In the end, who among the inner circle would ever want to admit publicly that they stole the drummer spot from PB because they felt he didn't deserve any $ from a record that he wouldnt be playing on? It would be too embarassing and bad for the band's image, so a better route to follow is "ringo was better". Besides, another angle, if they really felt that RS was a better drummer and really made the band THAT much better, then it doesn't make much sense to pay RS LESS than what they were paying PB, as well as not making RS a full bandmember until 1963. RNah, i still like Bedford's theory, because it seems to hoild up well to scrtinty.
This is a cool conversation though.