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1957 Liverpool bands
« on: March 02, 2008, 01:34:24 PM »

In June 1957 The Quarrymen entered Carroll Levis Discoveries - a talent contest - at the Liverpool Empire. From what I have read on the web the Quarrymen lost their round to The Sunnyside Skiffle Group.  

I am trying to find more information about this - one of the very first Quarrymen appearances - and also about other Liverpool bands that participated in the Carroll Levis competition in 1957. There is a lot of contradictory information on the web. Many people seem to confuse it with the later Johnny & the Moondogs appearance at Carroll Levis in 1959 where they did reach the finals. Does anyone have more detailed info on the 1957 Carroll Levis competition or other Liverpool groups from 1957? Also, does anyone know which other Liverpool groups had records released before The Beatles did?  
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2008, 03:16:34 PM »

paul mentions how some lady playing the spoons kept beating them at talent contests and also said the sunny siders had a midget as a gimmick.....it wasn't june 57 it was October 26, 1959 that the second auidition happened........

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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2008, 03:31:10 PM »

some reading on it on wingspan.....http://www.wingspan.ru/bookseng/myfn/bmiles01.html
this is a hazy area...chas mcdevitts name pops up alot http://www.chasmcdevitt.com/Skiffle.htm...Lead singer, Freddie Garrity worked as a milkman and had played in a series of local Manchester skiffle groups - The Red Sox, the John Norman Four and finally The Kingfishers - before the latter evolved into Freddie and The Dreamers in 1959.....

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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2008, 03:38:51 PM »

Thanks for those links!! I also read about the spoon lady :) in The Beatles Anthology. The 1957 Carroll Levis appearance at the Liverpool Empire was, of course, before Paul's time. It really was one of the very earliest Quarrymen gigs. It definitely is a hazy area - I can't find much. Maybe I need to research old Liverpool Echo newspaper clippings from 1957. As far as I know it was won by The Crescents:
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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2008, 03:38:54 PM »

there is more on lennis' page but not much....http://www.sadcafe.co.uk/lenni.htm
barry miles also has some in his book...http://books.google.com/books?id=pEHNfqJZYTYC&pg=PA16&lpg=PA16&dq=carroll+levis+mr+starmaker+talent+show&source=web&ots=VJW6j0x2to&sig=Hjdr_11-6Klzk4NjA_Xeh6Yk-E4&hl=en#PPA14,M1
i have tried to get a comprehensive reading by reading it all....but to no avail...skiffle groups changed names more than underwear back then.... ;D

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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2008, 03:42:54 PM »

it does mention 57 in a few books but that maybe wrong...

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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2008, 03:53:12 PM »

the paper is the best way to find out what happened during but personal accounts shed more light on the matter but not everybody recalls things the same...

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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2008, 04:02:42 PM »

http://Carroll Levis' Mr StarMaker Talent Show
this mentions the first but dwells on the second...

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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2008, 04:07:37 PM »

there was also a canadian version of the show it seems.........http://www.broadcasting-history.ca/personalities/personalities.php?id=424
nancy whiskey should be researched too...http://mrjyn.blogspot.com/2007/11/luxembourger-skiffle-contest.html
tim fletcher did well on this page,7 pages actually...http://www.stthomasu.ca/~pmccorm/research/jandmoondogs.html

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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2008, 04:29:41 PM »

i liken this to trying to find footage of the terry hall show,pops and lenny.no footage survives it seems...only pictures...

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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2008, 01:19:25 AM »

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« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2008, 02:03:37 AM »

Oh, and I would almost kill for some footage of that band that was the first from Liverpool sent to Hamburg. I think they had a black front man, BlueMeanie had a picture of them in that excellent copy of the Wyvern Social Club 1960, etc.

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« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2008, 02:07:13 AM »

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paul mentions how some lady playing the spoons kept beating them at talent contests and also said the sunny siders had a midget as a gimmick.....it wasn't june 57 it was October 26, 1959 that the second auidition happened........

Random questions here, but has Paul ever written a song where a midget was featured? Or maybe, is that what was in John's head when he wrote "feeling two foot small ..."? Or George, I think in one of his songs he wrote about being all very small?

Is the real reason they hired Ringo so that they would not lose to midget-containing competitors ever again?

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« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2008, 02:10:04 AM »

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Oh, and I would almost kill for some footage of that band that was the first from Liverpool sent to Hamburg. I think they had a black front man, BlueMeanie had a picture of them in that excellent copy of the Wyvern Social Club 1960, etc.


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« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2008, 08:44:15 AM »

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i liken this to trying to find footage of the terry hall show,pops and lenny.no footage survives it seems...only pictures...


But this pic is definately taken from a tv screen.
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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2008, 11:03:42 AM »

bill harry has a page or 3 of articles....read a few...http://triumphpc.com/mersey-beat/a-z/index-az.shtml
this maybe your best source...

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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2008, 11:15:59 AM »

Michael Holliday had a hit with story of my life that year....
here you can listen to what the moondogs were doing here.........http://www.beatlespennylane.com/rare_hard_to_find_beatle_MP3's-tracks.htm
watch the oh boy shows at you tube...there wasn't much rock then.....tony sheridan was popular at the time i know....and i know of another forum that can clear alot of this up....http://whirligigtv.yuku.com/
vince eager actually posts there...

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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2008, 11:52:23 AM »

Thanks for the excellent links!!! I found a LOT of info on Carroll Levis on the whirligigtv link. Thanks!!!
I have just read that Billy Fury appeared on the Liverpool Carroll Levis in 1958.  
I think Carroll Levis was like the ''Pop Idol/ American Idol" of its day. Seems like it had its fair share of weird auditions too!
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« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2008, 03:17:49 AM »

so do a little write up of the info you cyphered out of those links here,it would be interesting to read a comprehensive chronology of the events that transpired whence upon a time........
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